first though common threats are about to get a joint response pakistani president asif ali zardari is in moscow to discuss the fight on terrorism and drug trafficking trafficking with russia's president dmitri medvedev let's get more on and for more on the pakistani leaders four day trip for to moscow we're for markings covering those are about who's joining us live with more good to have you with us so the two leaders have a lot of this is that of course terrorism being among the top priorities tell us more about them. indeed well russia and pakistan of course have a number of joint interests and fighting terrorism is perhaps the number one priority as stated by both the russian president dmitry medvedev and his astonied colleagues both men devoted a lot of time from their meeting to discuss potential ways of fighting terrorism of course now is a very important time for both russia and pakistan as well as the entire international community. american forces recently eliminated america's terrorist number one the sound of that lot just a few days after that in russia the number one repr

side a lot of agreements like joint operation yes of course mr zardari will continue his visit with a trip to st petersburg and it more meetings with various russian officials including the russian prime minister. while the death of the al qaeda leader is the major focus of the moscow islam about talks it's also shaking the atmosphere within pakistan itself and anti-u.s. rally has been held in the country hundreds of opposition party members of gathered in the city of about about where osama bin laden was shot dead more than a week ago they chanted slogans against the u.s. government as well as pakistan's leaders who protest follows an american drone attack along the border with afghanistan in which five alleged militants were killed this comes despite complaints from pakistan's officials that the assaults violate the country's sovereignty. turning out other world news spain has been hit by its biggest earthquake in fifty years with it left at least eight people dead and dozens injured the quake measuring five point two in magnitude came several hours after a tremor and force thousand

president zardari got that vote of confidence and let's not forget that. >> it's very important that the president did that the subtext is going to be, how long has he been there? can you imagine, becoming the next secretary of defense? they are going to crown him. >> unanimous consent on that confirmation, secretary of defense. all right. david, stand by for a moment. we've got a lot more -- we'll hear from the president of the united states, john king is standing by over at the magic map. he's going to show us precisely what happened, celebrations are continuing not only outside the white house but at ground zero in new york city. live pictures from the white house, live pictures from new york city. we're going to go to afghanistan. got a live reporter on the scene over there. our coverage, i must say, is only just beginning. stay with us. [ female announcer ] it's red lobster's festival of shrimp for just $11.99. combine two of our most tempting shrimp selections any way you like from favorites like crab-stuffed shrimp to special new creations like bbq-glazed shrimp or potato-crus

we are working on getting the details that we can. >> and what the president called president zardarican point out that the woman shot in the leg and physically assaulted the or attempted to assault or charge rather one of the u.s. assaulters and that every effort was taken for those who were not engaged in an effort to resist to protect them, the nine combatants and it was rather extraordinary the number of individuals who were in the compound who were not posing a threat to the assaulters, that they were made secure and not harmed. >> and when the president called president zardari, was he aware of any of this action? well, you know, i don't know. it was obviously, a number of hours afterwards, but -- i'm not sure if it had become public yet. >> and from the first phone call that president obama made, was it to president bush? >> i don't have the chronology in that, but it was one of the early phone calls. can we just -- i will get to you. >> the events that took place on sunday, do you think they changed the atmosphere at all in which the debt ceilings discussions take place in a w

officials and the games i'll watch from has four day visit to the country for his part president zardari was somewhat lyrical in his comments about potential and existing cooperation with russia he said despite the fact that the two countries do not share a border their hearts beat in unison of course those beginnings are still words in very vague words but we do know that the two men signed a lot of agreements on joint cooperation and of course mr zardari will continue his visit with a trip to st petersburg and more meetings with various russian officials including the russian prime minister. the next crew bound for the international space station has started to date cremation exam at the russian space capital star city three men a russian and american and japanese astronaut will be put into simulated crisis situations aboard a scale mockup of the i assess a panel of instructors will grade them according to performance and everything goes to plan certify them for the mission afterwards they'll head to the baikonur cosmodrome in kazakhstan for a final preflight checks take off scheduled

president ali zardari wrote in an op-ed piece in the "washington post", hey, we've been victims of binaden's terrorism, my own wife, the former prime minister, benazir bhutto, was a victim of an osama bin laden-style plot. did he make a good case in your view? >> well, the network we think was responsible for that assassination that has allegiances to al-qaeda, but i wouldn't say really al-qaeda. those were the kinds of things that finally got the pakistanis to come around and cooperate with us. listen, their national interests may not always intersect with the united states. we have this strange relationship. they help us at times and sometimes they frustrate us greatly about what they won't do and maybe in some cases, some folks who have been penetrated by sympathizers give up to the bad guys about what we're doing, which is one of the reasons i think we had to make the decision to go in unilaterally, by ourselves, and take care of this serious problem. but as i said, we still have some questions to ask, but with the information i've seen today, surely it didn't look and appear to me

>> i don't think anybody thinks that zardari would have known.the army in pakistan and the isi. over the years people have pointed out that the isi have had a rather close relationship with the militant groups in the area and their aims have not necessarily been american aims. they are more focused on the stand off with india and therefore have wanted to carry on having alliances with these militant groups in pakistan, brooke. >> what about this idea, considering osama bin laden was hiding out in plain sight, perhaps for pakistan to make good on this, would they at all be willing to help root out and find another bad guy, i.e., zawahiri? >> this is em bass barsing pakistan so elements of the isi might also know where jzawahiri is. is he in the tribal areas of the country? i think it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. >> perhaps if osama bin laden was the head of the snake, al zawahiri could figure that out. let's not forget, we have been at war there for ten years. a war with what end? we go in depth. we're going to get more of

president zardari blames the media. he says some in the u.s.gest pakistan lacked vitality in its pursuit of terrorism or worse yet that we were disingenuous and actually protected the terrorists that we were pursing. it doesn't reflect fact. pakistan has reason to despise al qaeda. in fairness to president zardari, the civilian leadership seems to want to be supportive. it's been this issue with the pakistani intelligence, the isi. >> well, we sure don't have all of the information. we're going to look for it. i'm going to meet with other senators today with leon panetta and a lot of these questions are going to come up. what did the pakistanis know? when did they know it? what was the relationship between the pakistani military, the secret group as you've talked about, as well as the government between them and osama bin laden because it does seem and americans who have looked at videos of this compound have to think they had to have known that he was there. >> senator, what do you think this will mean for the war in afghanistan? certainly som

so this is an issue where president zardari is putting the best possible face of it, but the reality is a much more complicated and much less complimentary to pakistan, but we do have to admit that they have aided us in some critical moments. >> sir, let's get down to the money, because reuters said that we have spent tens of billions sending aid to pakistan since the 9/11 attacks, and a lot of new numbers that want to talk about the numbers, new members that is, on the hill looking to cut spending, so could there be a real problem when it comes to this and how important that money is with the ongoing relationship with the u.s. and pakistan? >> well, we have spent billions of dollars, and the pakistanis and the major route for material going to afghanistan to support our forces, so there is a need to provide support and provide actually the highways literally to afghanistan. however, there's a real issue here about the capacity of the pakistan government to spend the money, their corruption, and also, we have been trying to help them develop their own infrastructure in terms of roads

we finally heard from president zardari. he underlined that pakistan had no part in the capture of bin laden. it's an embarrassment for him. because here in abbottabad, there are 140,000 people retired or on active duty. he was literally living under their noses. >> is there a concern that the situation on the ground could ignite at any point? >> reporter: well, it could. there are many sympathizers of osama bin laden. there was small demonstration yesterday by a radical is la mist group. all of the embassies are closed. the u.s. embassy is closed and the government is braced for attacks. but, so far, there hasn't been any extra violence. chris? >> elizabeth palmer in abbottabad, pakistan for us. thank you. >>> even before the killing of osama bin laden, the u.s. and pakistan had a rocky relationship. what happens now with so many questions about which side pakistan is really on. let's get more from cbs chief foreign force upon dent, lar ra logan. good morning. billions of dollars flow to pakistan annually. as far as u.s. pa

about his government's competence and even his allegiance to the united states, pakistan's president zardarist" defending his efforts to track down bin laden. the question is how does he explain the most wanted man in the world hiding in plain sight in a suburb of the pakistani capital? >>> and more details on the stunning navy s.e.a.l. operion that led to the end for bin laden, the one the pakistanis didn't even know about until it was over. the question is what was recovered from the computers in bin laden's palatial hideout.

common threats are about to get a joint response pakistani president asif ali zardari is in moscow to discuss the fight against terrorism and drug trafficking with russian president dmitry medvedev . has more on the pakistani leaders four day trip. a lot of issues are on the table including fighting terror especially in light of the elimination of them by u.s. forces in pakistan and the second to me that it was highly praised by moscow old media of saying that bin laden's death should have a positive effect on the russian security as well russian authorities have also been able to pull some successful anti terror operations recently just t.b.'s after going to be killed al qaeda the top militants in the caucasus if you talk about drug trafficking a very important issue pakistan is a big where in a v troubled region right there mexico afghanistan russia is really suffering from the flow of drugs from of ghana's then especially opiates poor from all that if you talk about business who are expecting several deals to be signed in this years of energy agriculture and heavy all in all the la

agree with that i think as she is talking about the civilian government and now run by the president zardari but unfortunately this indian government in pakistan is in no position to run its foreign policy and decide on major national issues but it is usually decided by the army and intelligence service policy intelligence service are pursuing is not in line with the civilian government policies for example the existence of osama bin ladin the number one terrorists around the world just one mile from. pakistan's main military academy which is their. version of point chose the to what extent they are supporting terrorism in the region so i believe that when we are saying that this villian government supports stability that means nothing when they have no say in major foreign policy if i can go to you into something and i mean if i marry the real quickly you want to reply. yeah i just wanted to think even in the handling of the bin now that it's had if united states of america had just shown party just that our party it would have enabled the civilian government in pakistan to go after they're

terrorism and drug trafficking have been tackled by president medvedev in pakistani president asif ali zardari who's on a four day visit to moscow the two men met in the kremlin acknowledging that both countries suffer from international as long as terror networks and the drug flow from afghanistan economic ties also came up with moscow and is wrong about agreeing to boost the energy sector during the next few days the pakistani leader plans to meet with russian business leaders and visit st peter's square. take a look at some other stories making headlines across the globe spain has been struck by the biggest earthquake in a half century which left at least eight dead and dozens injured the quake measuring five point two on the richter scale came after so it came several hours after a tremor and forced thousands to stay outdoors overnight major damage was caused to the buildings in the southern city of lorca worst affected by this quake log on to our g.'s you tube channel for more dramatically from the quake stricken area. in japan the operator of a troubled fukushima nuclear plant revealed t

well quite a lot is on the table during this four day visit by i see ali zardari the pakistani leader he's expected to meet with president hamid to get it on thursday and you are expecting quite a lot of issues to be discussed from boosting the business of cooperation cultural ties to promising drug trafficking in pakistan is quite important nation in the troubled me right here and next to afghanistan russia is severely suffering from the flow of drugs from ghana especially over here is also fighting there is definitely going to be discussed as well especially in light of elimination of by u.s. forces in pakistan russia's president phrased this event seeing. positively that the security in russia russian authorities have been able to pull some successful anti terror operations as well just two days after bin laden's death they killed. talk the militants in the caucasus but if you talk about business we're also expecting several deals to be signed in this two years of energy agriculture and each of us signed the two leaders magic was last august in sochi. that some would also reduce of

. >> couric: in a "washington post" op-ed today president zardari of bin laden was not "anywhere we hadanticipated he would be." given he was hiding about a half mile from pakistan's top military academy, somehow that possible? >> we don't really have any intelligence that indicates that pakistan was aware that bin laden was there or that this compound was a place where he was hiding. but having said that, this was a location that was very close to a military academy. it was close to another sensitive military sites. it had been there since almost five years ago. it was very unusual as a compound. i just think they need to respond to the questions about why they did not know that that kind of compound existed. >> couric: but common sense would dictate that they had to have some idea. come on! >> (laughs) well, that's why there are questions here that i think the best people to respond to those questions are going to be the pakistanis. >> couric: what role, if any, did the pakistanis play in this operation? >> this is this has been a long process, obviously, developing a lot of streams o

. >> reporter: she noted that pakistani president zardari became emotional when he said if he had known, he would have gone after bin laden because al qaeda was likely behind the assassination of his wife, former prime minister benazir bhutto. asked if the meeting really was as tense as it looked, secretary clinton said no. >> we were just waiting for the press to leave so we could actually... (laughter). begin our meeting. that was the only tension. >> reporter: in a positive sign, pakistan today allowed the c.i.a. to search bin laden's compound. a u.s. official says they did find some information but it's too early to tell its value. chip reid, cbs news, warsaw. >> smith: in egypt, a familiar sight today. 3.5 months after forcing president mubarak out of office, tens of thousands of protesters filled cairo's tahrir square. the organizers called it a second revolution. they say change isn't coming fast enough and demanded mubarak be put on trial immediately for allegedly ordering police to shoot antigovernment protesters. a judge in belgrade today determined that ratko mladic is fit to

presidents zardari and musharraf of pakistan former prime minister of pakistan the late benazir bhutto all said in interviews that bin laden may have died of kidney failure as early as two thousand and one so. these these statements stand on their own merit and we even had general franks tommy franks the head of the central command say and look i don't know whether he's dead or alive we don't have any intelligence that says one way or the other so even general franks was unwilling to actually say say the bin laden was was alive as early as two thousand and two the photo was released to prove that he was in the killed. national security risk because the reason for not publishing that photograph is that about it all are going to be what is exactly talking about there. well you know they could do a lot of things with the photograph to be you know we've seen some photographs released in pakistan some of the other people killed in a compound were kind of bored out somewhat but we after president obama made this announcement we had all these fake photographs that were going around about you

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>> i don't believe that new president zardari has that mission at all. >> i, barack hussein obama doemnly swear. >> couric: who's to say you're reading the tea leaves accurately now? the haunting image of a young woman dying in the street has now been seen all over the world. you have consistently denied the holocaust happened. these are dead bodies from a german concentration camp. is this photo a lie? >> ( translated ): there are many historic events. why is this one in particular so important to you? >> this is cactus 1539. we made it. >> couric: when did you realize the engines had failed? >> i knew immediately that it was very serious. >> couric: 3,240, the number of days the war here has gone on. >> i'm pleased to nominate general david petraeus. >> couric: are you disappointed things aren't as stable and are you concerned they could unravel as combat forces leave the country? >> it's all over your face and it's healed. >> couric: this is the corner where an s.u.v. was parked full of explosives. nearly every street is an obstacle course of debris and the dead. breathe, breathe,

finds its way to russia or something the russian authorities are very concerned about that force mr zardari will continue his visit with a trip to st petersburg and more meetings with various russian officials including the russian prime minister while the death of the al qaeda leader is a major focus of the mosque i was i'm about talks it's also shaking the atmosphere within pakistan itself and anti-u.s. rally has been held in the country hundreds of opposition party members gathered in the studio bought about where bin laden was shot dead more than a week ago they chanted slogans against the u.s. government as well as pakistan's leaders protests follows the american drone attack along the border with afghanistan in which five alleged militants were killed this comes just spite complains from pakistani officials that assaults and the assaults violate the country's sovereignty. frito the world news spain was hit by its biggest earthquake in a century in which at least eight people died and dozens were left injured the quake measuring five point two on the richter scale happened after severa

>> i think president zardari talked about it in his op-ed piece today. don't really want to get into the substance of what they may be telling us in terms of intelligence. it's not really my place and i am unable to do so. but this is the least of which someone hiding in plain sight, and as john brennan said today, it's raised questions whether he had a support network and we raised those questions with the pakistani government. >> with the lawmakers on saying today is this another thing more in the last ten years that pakistan is playing a role in the cannot be trusted and they have a revolving door you must close and until you close the door you cannot bring -- you're making assumptions here that no one is able to make at this point. >> understand where he was found in all of the facts of the operation, and yet again, we can't draw assumptions. estimate is he denying all these years that he's not in pakistan? >> i don't think we can make any assumptions. i think we just need to talk to the pakistanis. >> on the issue of funding just for the record, the

tonight, i called president zardari, and my team has also spoken with their pakistani counterparts.hey agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. and going forward, it is essential that pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al qaeda and its affiliates. the american people did not choose this fight. it came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. after nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. these efforts weigh on me every time i, as commander-in-chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who's been gravely wounded. so americans understand the costs of war. yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. we will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. we will be true to the values that make us who we are. and on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al qaeda's te

i mean first of all let's be very clear president zardari it's a leader he had nothing to do with the military barely any control of the military or the iraq so i think this is going to be symbolic to begin with a mission of right and be interior ministry not in iraq were never involved in going after so he has no control over the military or the i think anything and a very real. military guys have to come out and you know right this was a huge intelligence but at least at least there would be somewhat credible and you are even talking about the next level or two and an international commission looking into it so yeah it's that let's quickly talk about what politicians are talking about here in the u.s. which is cutting off aid to pakistan of course not everybody's on board you have senator dianne feinstein who's saying that pakistan especially still needs maybe not the military aid but humanitarian assistance well how would that hurt pakistan if they didn't get the one point five billion dollars they're supposed to get this year does any of that money ever trickle down or does it onl

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tonight, i called president zardari, and my team has also spoken with their pakistani counterparts. day for both of our nations. and going forward, it is essential that pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al qaeda and its affiliates. the american people did not choose this fight. it came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. after nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. these efforts weigh on me every time i, as commander-in-chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who's been gravely wounded. so americans understand the costs of war. yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. we will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. we will be true to the values that make us who we are. and on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al qaeda's terror-- justice has been done. tonight, we

president zardari, for example. types, certainly the pakistani ambassador in washington saying that. but there are elements that the u.s. government doesn't trust, doesn't believe is helping in the war on terrorism. this will fuel some of those suspicions because bin laden was hiding in plain sight in this mansion, in an area where so many current and retired pakistani military officials, gener generals, high-ranking officers were living. this is a compound that stood out. it was bigger than so many of the others. and people were wondering no doubt what was going on inside. did there -- was there any protection? not necessarily from the highest elements of the pakistani government but perhaps others within the pakistani intelligence or even military community. this will fuel some of those suspicions. we're told by u.s. officials the u.s. did not inform the pakistani government in advance of this military special operations force that was about to go in because this were too many concerns. it could be compromised, th

i mean, czar -- zardari, president zardari, obviously has the title but doesn't really hold sway over wide portions of the military and security apparatus and so forth. >> no, absolutely, and there are key players in there and chief among them is general kaiano, general pasha, who runs the isi, the intel service. again, people shouldn't mistake this as some sort of government, you know, wide conspiracy and everyone in the government, everyone in the military, everyone at isi knew about this. there are people within isi as an example whose specific pont is -- responsibility is to handle, coordinate and liase with members of taliban, they've been doing this for years and years, so it's not a heavy lift to understand there are some people aware of this. otherwise, you have to say, well, they're so incompetent that they didn't know that bin laden's this close to islamabad for all these years and you know what, the isi is a very capable, professional service. jon: at any rate, we got him and all kinds of intelligence, hard drive and computer and so forth. what are they doing with it right

zardari in his op ed said the pakistanis did its part. >> they have provide cooperation over the years and broadly speaking provide assistance that helped us built the mountain of information that we needed to build in order to find bin laden and executes this mission. >> senator lindsey graham today said you cannot trust them and you cannot abandon them. >> i don't think it's a question of trust. i think it's a question of the interests we share and the cooperation we forged. there are different many a complicated relationship. there is no question. we do have our differences. it's important to notes there are many people in pakistan and many people in the pakistan government. so you have to be careful about tarring everyone. either the country or the government. because they have provided extremely useful assistance over the years and we look forward to cooperating with pakistan going into the future. its many vital. as we have said, lopping the head off the snake is important. the body while battered and bruised is still there and we need to bury that body. we need to keep thefight

continue to take a stand against terrorism but can the prime minister say when he talked to president zardari and the prime minister what discussions he had about ensuring the security operated in pakistan fully supports that antiterrorist effort. the development reminds us why we took military action in afghanistan which under the taliban gave shelter to bin laden and al qaeda. but they should also as the prime minister said reinforce the need for the lasting political settlement in afghanistan as the only long-term guarantee of peace and security. does the prime minister agree with me that we need greater urgency for the political solution and engagement in both parts of the taliban that are ready to announce islands? can he tell whether he thinks there are ways we can sharpen the choice in the taliban including by deepening the political process and afghanistan. turning to yemen and al qaeda's remaining stronghold we must do everything to combat terrorism and increase pressure on the supporters and we must also support movements that we get less likely that terrorism will take root. the mo

and subsequent to that operation, the first call the president made was to present president zardari. and we've been quite clear moving forward why we withheld information and why operational security even within the u.s. government was paramount to the success of the operation. >> with the u.s. consider similar such operations in the future, despite the pakistani government's clear displeasure with this style of procedure? >> welcome again, i think it's important also to stress that we've had very successful counterterrorism operation with pakistan in the years preceding this operation. the secretaries bouck 22 -- secretary spoke to it, the president spoke to it and it also highlighted the fact that the counterterrorism cooperation helped insubstantial ways to lead us to the defense of sunday night. it said, we recognize that al qaeda hasn't abandoned its intent to attack the united states. this is an ongoing armed conflict, and we believe that the united states has authority under international law to use force to defend itself when necessary. >> how you then kind of assuaged the pa

i think that's why the president had to call president of pakistan to let him know, president zardaring something. this is, without giving away anything that's too technical, pakistanis didn't know we were coming. the intelligence was not shared. frankly, i don't think we gave much up to them, other than i think deals made to get the initial intel on this a year ago. this was -- i think the reason you're hearing radio silence from pakistan, they're as shocked as anyone else that we got bin laden. >> at the end of the day, tim carney channels a lot of people's views on these wars which is, okay, i get it, 9/11 was a horrendous tragedy. heartbreaking, terrifying, disruptive. the worst event you could imagine in pretty much any category. the quest to administrate justice, as the president put it, by pursuing osama bin laden and has now been achieved, very understandable, admirable by many measures and certainly necessary. the concern, i think, by so many in this country is that the decade between 9/11 and the killing of bin laden was effectively either a misguided, exploitive, insane. th

sovereignty was violated by the united states and that they believe their civilian government, president zardari, is really just a puppet of the u.s. contessa? >> and what are you learning about osama bin laden's wives and the interviews that are taking place there in pakistan? >> reporter: well, the most recent information that we've learned is actually from a general. he held a small group of journalists together in islamabad to give them a bit more detail. what he said is that they have three of bin laden's wives in custody along with a number of children that they took from the compound after the navy s.e.a.l.s left, that they have been talking to them. one of the wives, his youngest wife, who is yemeni and is said to be his favorite wife, she said that actually the daughter that we've been talking about this week never actually saw her father being killed, that she was swept out of the room and that she had been living in this house, the wife, for five years and actual hi had never left that room where she was with bin laden. or actually two rooms there on that floor. contessa? >> stephanie

and also they are calling their civilian government, president zardari, a puppet of the united states. there have been some other developments here in abbottabad. the compound was sealed off. we weren't able to get very close to it, and there was a visit from both the head of the military who is arguably one of the most powerful men in this country as well as the head of intelligence. they visited. we are also told that the compound itself has been cleared and that it has been sealed off. later in the day here at our guesthouse, we got a visit from the intelligence. they told us it is now time for the foreign media to leave and stop covering this story. they said there's no real reason to be here. but this comes as more information is coming out about how the united states identifies bin laden in the compound. both "the new york times" and "washington post" say that the cia actually had a safehouse here. and they are using a number of different methods to listen in on conversations at that compound to try to determine whether or not it was, indeed, bin laden who was there. andrea? >>

they have really good, solid intelligence that the president of pakistan, zardari, the head of the intelligenceot know in advance, and they are the key elements here, but donilon also said something very important. there was a support structure there in pakistan -- >> for him, yeah. >> and the expectation is let's find that. >> mike murphy, some political notes as well. rudy giuliani on the program saying, no, he still is considering a run for 2012. at some point, he still will. is there room for him this time? >> there's room. there's always room. he's famous, he has a certain face. i don't think he could get nominated. he ran last time, campaign didn't work out. he could get in, he could be a factor. i don't think he's one of the main three or four. >> what about jon huntsman? he spoke over the weekend. his initial foray as a candid e candidate. what do you think of him? >> i think he'll almost certainly catch on in the media. there's always room for someone to be new and interesting. i think he has a chance to catch on in new hampshire. whether or not he can roll that into nominations, we'll

i don't suspect that the elected civilian government of president zardari, for example, would have had any reason to know about this. but we're talking about the army and the intelligence service as the decision maker around these kinds of questions. >> rose: how about general kin yanni? >> well, he's the chief of army staff. and i think you have to say if you look around the rest of pakistan, if you were to do a suey oknown militant leaders living in civilian houses whether lashkar tie be or at we imagine to be the circumstances of mullah omar or the number two of al qaeda, ayman al-zawari. this is what their circumstances have looked like. sometimes it's opened and it's called house arrest, other times it's clandestine. but it amounts to evince... circumstantial evidence of pakistani state control, really. i would put it as directly as that. it certainly raises the question. >> rose: charlie, it's impossle to believe that the pakistanis didn't know out this... world's leading terrorist fugitiveiving in a fairly prominent place. but there are things that are incredible but tha do happ

it's going to take a lot of work, but i think president obama did congratulate or thanked president zardari. i thought that was a very important move. he made clear that this had to be done, that we needed to cooperate with pakistan as secretary clinton said. so it's going to take work. it's necessary to work on it. >> lehrer: finally, what's your level of concern that this could trigger retaliation against u.s. targets as well as pakistani and other targets? >> well, that's always a risk. but that's a risk that you just have to deal with. whether we would have found him, eliminated him or not, we were still under the same essential threats. i think that's just part of the world that we live in. hopefully at some point we will start working our way through that. but we're in for a tough time here for the next few years i believe the world is. we're up to the task. but american is... america is really the leader here. the rest of the world has to understand that, respect that and work with us. we don't need to dictate. we don't need to impose or interfere but we can lead. the rest of the wor

and i just don't know whether the pakistanis, whether it's president zardari, whether they realize theave bin laden living in the shadow of some many government officials all these years. i don't know if they realize that very few people believe that pakistan was not aware of that, or if they were -- or if they were not, you know, they were just totally incompetent and inept. >> you've been receiving frequent updates, briefings on the intelligence received. one of the things cnn is told, the word "hostile" was used by sources to describe to us the mood, the tone of the wives of bin laden when they were questioned by u.s. intelligence officials. what do you know about that? >> that's basically what i've heard. i've not really heard any details other than that, other than the fact that i know the united states would have preferred to have separate interviews with the three. my understanding was, it was done combined, which really minimizes the impact of the interrogation. >> that 11 days now, essentially, 12 days since the death of bin laden, which means 11 or 12 days given the transport