sort of thanks to the occupation of the zarqawi% more and more into that direction. i think that it's a welcome development, as long as they don't get to the army or some currency duty force, which every knows will be a horrible idea. >> nir, in your book "aftermath" you talk about the middle east. specifically talk about afghanistan and the spillover effect of what's going on between iraq and afghanistan. what about the lebanon and the arab parts of the middle east? >> so i start the book with his fear that iraq would be lebanon and lebanon being a sectarian system which leads to competition and conflict between the various groups. in iraq for choice extremism is not enshrined. although it is de facto the way to achieve power, resource is to go to your sectarian group unfortunate so we did see increased sectarianism which might us of lebanon. but lebanon and the middle east, i mean the sunni-shia fight. that was a sort of a new phenomenon, and we can blame the americans for that and the civil war in iraq and the zarqawi, also saudi arabia and i will get to that. leb

need when they are funding more resounding themselves, but that wasn't to be, because groups like zarqawi and the antigroups were telling the civilians constantly and the breitling on a daily basis shia policemen truck drivers coming from baghdad to jordan or syria were being stopped close to fallujah and putting their heads cut off for being shia. shias were beginning to resent more and more the sunnis for harboring these sorts of antishia al qaeda guice. once fallujah was destroyed by the americans, in late 2004 you didn't see the shias coming to the aid of fallujah. you saw many who actually deserved it because these people were harming the sunnis that were slaughtering the civilians but as a result of the destruction of fallujah in 2000 for you had hundreds of thousands of refugees from fallujah coming to western baghdad, and they began to displace shia living there when teased baghdadi and turned this place and because you had no american or iraqi security forces that could protect local communities, local self-defense militias becoming more and more important. now if you are a shia

we have seen signs of some al qaeda inspired groups attempting to develop in gaza so referring to zarqawi that hamas has crushed them because that is the last thing they want in their area so one of the reasons why they might not see too much spillover from iraq to afghanistan at least in the short term and or gently israel has won and it proved that in gaza. the palestinians try to resist. they are going to get crushed brutally. everything is going to be destroyed and the people in the west bank are watching this. i think at least in the short-term they learned that lesson. if you resist it will be destroyed but it is an untenable situation the long-term. what we do see though i guess is a continuation of a trend that goes back a few decades now. there is no more leftist resistance. the discourse is the only language of resistance so the americans or the israelis so somebody as a secular leftists myself i think it is a shame and against the usa pretext, israel a pretext that we are fighting al qaeda one really does the national liberationists movement. because israel has west bank under

but when zarqawi was captured in iraq, and he was the head of al qaeda in iraq, i got a great phone call 2:00 a.m., and how that fought to me was, not tonight, i am too tired. i was actually writing a book at the time. i worked all day covering the white house. i went home and had just hit the pillow. then i got the call, and they said "they got him." and i said, what, the god who? cozily in the middle of the night are never good. it is something better they want you to do "good morning ameritech," which means you have to get up in two hours. that was one of the moments where i cannot believe i just got the huge story. it was great. it feels good. but what feels the greatest is really telling a story. i loved it when people come up to me and they do not say that i saw you on tv. they say i remember that story you did in iraq or i remember the story did in afghanistan to me, that is a meaningful thing about my job. >> i stumbled into this business as well. i was a very odd college freshmen. i showed of knowing exactly what i wanted to major in and do, and the most certainly was not journa