i see zawahri having no influence on what is going on in syria at all. >> actually, i agree. we he look at what he has actually said. his influence is far more in egypt than syria. he's from egypt himself. when you look at the recent arab spring and realize what has happened there, that influence is there because he has that personal connection, but there is no more command and control, and that has been one of the things that the west has been effective in lopping off. that doesn't mean they're gone, it just means it's not being directed from elsewhere. >> there's been al shabab recruiting in minnesota. there's been videos about the so-called martyrs, the path to paradise. here's one of the comments from that video. >> if you guys only knew how much fun we have over here. this is the real disney land. come here and join us. >> now, that young man apparently went on to be a suicide bomber. we know that al-qaeda, the leadership did years ago send fighters to africa. do you see some of the people we've talked over the past few days think al shabab has not gotten stronger, that