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fbi director, aaron zebley at the intelligence committee testimony, zebley will be sworn in. so mueller will be sworn in for his testimony and zebley will be sworn in to testify as well. and that means that the expectation is that at the intelligence committee tomorrow, aaron zebley will be answering questions from members of that committee alongside mueller. now, again, that's the second hearing tomorrow. the first hearing we still don't have clarity. as far as we understand it, with the judiciary committee what we think is going to happen is that mueller will be sworn in and zebley will be sitting there with him, but zebley himself won't be sworn in. he will be there basically as a counselor, as an adviser to mueller. that means that mueller will be the one answering all the questions in the first round with judiciary tomorrow and zebley can speak in his ear and can advise him what to say, but zebley himself won't be sworn in and directly asking questions. that will be the case for the morning and in the afternoon zebley and mueller will both be witnesses and both be testif
fbi director, aaron zebley at the intelligence committee testimony, zebley will be sworn in. so mueller will be sworn in for his testimony and zebley will be sworn in to testify as well. and that means that the expectation is that at the intelligence committee tomorrow, aaron zebley will be answering questions from members of that committee alongside mueller. now, again, that's the second hearing tomorrow. the first hearing we still don't have clarity. as far as we understand it, with the...
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aaron zebley first worked with robert mueller when mueller was the director of the fbi and zebley was his fbi chief of staff. he then joined the same private law firm that robert mueller joined and left that law firm with robert mueller to work at the special counsel's office where aaron zebley was the deputy special counsel. aaron zebley had wide-ranging responsibilities oversees the entire mueller investigation. volume i and volume ii of the report. and he was the primary go-between with the justice department. that puts aaron zebley in a position to know everything about the mueller deep's communications with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, who was supervising the investigation, and then attorney general william barr when he took over the supervision of the investigation. the chairman of the judiciary committee and the intelligence committee both said today that they believe robert mueller does not have to comply with the restrictions on his testimony that appeared in last night's letter from the justice department to robert mueller. >> i think it's incredibly arrogant of t
aaron zebley first worked with robert mueller when mueller was the director of the fbi and zebley was his fbi chief of staff. he then joined the same private law firm that robert mueller joined and left that law firm with robert mueller to work at the special counsel's office where aaron zebley was the deputy special counsel. aaron zebley had wide-ranging responsibilities oversees the entire mueller investigation. volume i and volume ii of the report. and he was the primary go-between with the...
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as far as we understand it, at your committee zebley will be there but he won't be sworn in. he'll be there purely to advise mueller on his own responses. is that still operative at this time? >> you know, that's -- that's the last part that i heard.
as far as we understand it, at your committee zebley will be there but he won't be sworn in. he'll be there purely to advise mueller on his own responses. is that still operative at this time? >> you know, that's -- that's the last part that i heard.
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zebley. >> i would like to ask you, sir. this is your report. that's what i'm basing this on. >> then could you repeat the question for me again? >> is it accurate to say the investigation found no documentary evidence that george papadopoulos told anyone affiliated with the trump campaign about joseph mifsud's claims that the russians had dirt on candidate clinton? >> i believe, it appearing in the report, that it's accurate. >> in the reported says, "no documentary evidence that papadopoulos shared this information with the campaign." it is therefore inaccurate to conclude that by the time of the june 9th, 2016 trump tower meeting, "the campaign was likely already on notice via george papadopoulos' contact with russian agents that russia, in fact, had damaging information on trump's opponent." would you say that is inaccurate, to say it's likely already -- >> i direct you to the report. >> i appreciate that, because the democrats jumped to this incorrect conclusion in their minority views. again, which contradicts what you have in your report.
zebley. >> i would like to ask you, sir. this is your report. that's what i'm basing this on. >> then could you repeat the question for me again? >> is it accurate to say the investigation found no documentary evidence that george papadopoulos told anyone affiliated with the trump campaign about joseph mifsud's claims that the russians had dirt on candidate clinton? >> i believe, it appearing in the report, that it's accurate. >> in the reported says, "no...
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>> the aides is aaron zebley, robert mueller's chief of staff. an accomplished counterterrorism investigator in his own right and robert mueller's chief of staff during the mueller investigation. and they are asking that he be sworn in to sit next to robert mueller during the judiciary committee part of the hearing. it's not clear that's going to be able to happen because of congressional rules. >> and to do what? and to say what? >> well, i mean, you know, robert mueller is 74 years old. he oversaw this sprawling investigation. it's conceivable he doesn't know the answer particularly with the details to every question and a guy like zebley could help him answer those questions and inform the public if only
>> the aides is aaron zebley, robert mueller's chief of staff. an accomplished counterterrorism investigator in his own right and robert mueller's chief of staff during the mueller investigation. and they are asking that he be sworn in to sit next to robert mueller during the judiciary committee part of the hearing. it's not clear that's going to be able to happen because of congressional rules. >> and to do what? and to say what? >> well, i mean, you know, robert mueller is...
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2017 until may 2019 and had dated a oversight of the special counsel's investigation mr moller mr zebley resigned from the department of justice at the end of may 21000 when the special counsel's office was closed both mr moller and mr will be available to answer questions today i will be sworn in consistent with the rules of the house and the committee mr moller mr sublease appearance today before the committee is in keeping with the committee's longstanding practice of receiving testimony from current or former department of justice and f.b.i. personnel regarding open and closed investigative matters as this hearing is under oath and before before we begin your testimony mr mueller in zebley would you please rise and raise your right hands to be sworn swear. do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give at this hearing is the whole truth and nothing but the truth thank. thank you the record reflect that the witnesses have been duly sworn ranking member thank you mr chair i just want to clarify that this is highly unusual for mr they'll be to be sworn in we're here to
2017 until may 2019 and had dated a oversight of the special counsel's investigation mr moller mr zebley resigned from the department of justice at the end of may 21000 when the special counsel's office was closed both mr moller and mr will be available to answer questions today i will be sworn in consistent with the rules of the house and the committee mr moller mr sublease appearance today before the committee is in keeping with the committee's longstanding practice of receiving testimony...
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zebley we have less of a read on. now democrats are betting even if we hear nothing new, hearing it on television will finally get americans' attention. polls show only one in ten americans ever read the report. seeing it on tv could be more influential. just look what happened when attorney general bill barr gave the world his impression of the mueller report, before anybody could actually read it. many people took barr's interpretation as gospel and believed the report clears the president. it does nothing of the sort, but barr said it on television. so if this is all you saw of the mueller report, you may think the report cleared the president. the truth is much more nuanced. summarizing 448 pages in a couple of bullet points the report says the russians interfered, the trump campaign knew about it, benefitted from it, but the special counsel lacked the evidence to prove conspiracy in court. it did establish the trump administration impeded and interfered with the investigation, but mueller's team concluded it was
zebley we have less of a read on. now democrats are betting even if we hear nothing new, hearing it on television will finally get americans' attention. polls show only one in ten americans ever read the report. seeing it on tv could be more influential. just look what happened when attorney general bill barr gave the world his impression of the mueller report, before anybody could actually read it. many people took barr's interpretation as gospel and believed the report clears the president....
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zebley today. >> i thank the ranking member. i realize as probably do mr. zebley that there is an angry man down the street who is not happy about your being here tod today, but it is up to this committee and not anyone else who will be allowed to be sworn in and testify and you are welcome as a private citizen to testify and members may direct their questions to whoever they choose. with that, director mueller, you are recognized for any opening remarks you would like to make. >> good afternoon, chairman schiff, ranking member nunes and members of the committee. i testified before the house judiciary committee this morning and asked that that opening statement be incorporated into the record here. >> without objection. >> unique jurisdiction and you are interested in further understanding the counterintelligence implications of our investigation. let me say a word about how we handled the potential impact of our investigation on counter intelligence matters. as we explained in our report, special counsel regulations effectively gave me the role of united s
zebley today. >> i thank the ranking member. i realize as probably do mr. zebley that there is an angry man down the street who is not happy about your being here tod today, but it is up to this committee and not anyone else who will be allowed to be sworn in and testify and you are welcome as a private citizen to testify and members may direct their questions to whoever they choose. with that, director mueller, you are recognized for any opening remarks you would like to make. >>...
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be directed to robert mueller, not to aaron zebley .rv special counsel. this under scores insphie inspif fact you had 19 lawyers out to get president, they found no collusion, they found nothing, for 10 months prior they opened this investigation july 31 -- fbi. >> yes, they can 10 months, we deposed jim comey after he was fired, he said up until the point he was fired, they still didn't have anything. robert mueller 22 month investigation, they find nothing, tha 32 months they fine nothing, but this big hearing they will bring in zebleyto sit bebeside mueller hoping to find something. lou: they found someone that needs to be held accountable for breaking laws, for breaking the guidelines of the department of justice, and it is a member of the deputy of justice or the -- department of justice or fbi who right now should be prosecuted, they are not. i am sure mueller would like to speak to that. will he be given the opportunity to account for this nonsense, this is a ruse. >> you are right, i love what attorney general barr said, there w
be directed to robert mueller, not to aaron zebley .rv special counsel. this under scores insphie inspif fact you had 19 lawyers out to get president, they found no collusion, they found nothing, for 10 months prior they opened this investigation july 31 -- fbi. >> yes, they can 10 months, we deposed jim comey after he was fired, he said up until the point he was fired, they still didn't have anything. robert mueller 22 month investigation, they find nothing, tha 32 months they fine...
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zebley to exit the chamber. youou made a political case rang the doorbell and ran. >> i don't think you reviewed a report that is as fair, as consistent as the report we have in front of us. of robert watch all mueller's testimony now on c-span and c-span2, both hearings airing continuously. c-span2.on of on use c-span.org to watch the hearings on demand. the video is searchable by speaker with key points highlighted. c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that affect you. coming up this morning, we will open the phones and take your comments and reactions to special counsel robert mueller's testimony yesterday. on his report of russian interference and the 26 -- in the 2016 presidential election. join the conversation all morning with your phone calls, facebook comments, and tweets. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal," coming up at 7:00 this morning. announcer: house minority leader kevin mccarthy held a news conference to discuss robert mueller's test of how many bef
zebley to exit the chamber. youou made a political case rang the doorbell and ran. >> i don't think you reviewed a report that is as fair, as consistent as the report we have in front of us. of robert watch all mueller's testimony now on c-span and c-span2, both hearings airing continuously. c-span2.on of on use c-span.org to watch the hearings on demand. the video is searchable by speaker with key points highlighted. c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues...
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instead, zebley will be able to d,vise mueller in real time.just won't be able to answer the questions himself. as one lawmaker put it to me today, norah, it would have been inappropriate to add another witness to the list at the 11th hour. >> o'donnell: some drama before this begins. thank you, nancy. cbs news will bring you live coverage and analysis of the mueller hearings. we'll be on the air tomorrow morning at 5:15 a.m. pacific time. now a cbs news exclusive, our david martin has learned a u.s. navy ship may have brought down more than one drone in the strait of hormuz. david martin is the only tv correspondent traveling in the middle east with the head of the central command. >> reporter: the uss "boxer" at sea in the 90-degree waters of the persian gulf. hearly a week after the amphibious assault ship brought down an iranian drone, cbs news went aboard with general frank mckenzie, the top u.s. commander for the middle east, who told us it now looks the "boxer" took down two drones. >> as always, it was a complex tactical picture. we bel
instead, zebley will be able to d,vise mueller in real time.just won't be able to answer the questions himself. as one lawmaker put it to me today, norah, it would have been inappropriate to add another witness to the list at the 11th hour. >> o'donnell: some drama before this begins. thank you, nancy. cbs news will bring you live coverage and analysis of the mueller hearings. we'll be on the air tomorrow morning at 5:15 a.m. pacific time. now a cbs news exclusive, our david martin has...
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zebley. everyone else, please remain seated. >> this hearing is adjourned. >> you made a political case instead. put it in a paper sack. lit it on fire. dropped it on our porch. rang the doorbell and ran. >> i don't think you reviewed a report as fair and as consistent as the report we have in front of us. announcer: watch all of robert mueller's testimony on c-span and c-span 2. russian interference on 2016 election on c-span and on instruction of justice on c span 2 and use c-span .org to watch on demand.
zebley. everyone else, please remain seated. >> this hearing is adjourned. >> you made a political case instead. put it in a paper sack. lit it on fire. dropped it on our porch. rang the doorbell and ran. >> i don't think you reviewed a report as fair and as consistent as the report we have in front of us. announcer: watch all of robert mueller's testimony on c-span and c-span 2. russian interference on 2016 election on c-span and on instruction of justice on c span 2 and use...
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zebley -- >> i would like to ask you, sir. this is your report, and that's what i'm basing this on. >> can you repeat the question again? >> is it accurate to say the investigation found no documentary evidence that george papadopoulos told anyone involved with the trump campaigns that the russians had dirt on candidate clinton. >> i believe in the report, that's accurate. >> yeah, in the report, it says no documentary evidence that papadopoulos shared this information with the campaign. it's therefore inaccurate to conclude that by the time of the june 9, 2016 trump tower meeting, quote, the campaign was likely already on notice via george papadopoulos's contact with russian agents that russia in fact had damaging information on trump's opponent. would you say that's inaccurate to say it's likely -- >> i direct you to the report. >> i appreciate that because the democrats jump to this incorrect collusion in their minority views again which contradicts what you have in your report. i'm concerned about a number of statements i'
zebley -- >> i would like to ask you, sir. this is your report, and that's what i'm basing this on. >> can you repeat the question again? >> is it accurate to say the investigation found no documentary evidence that george papadopoulos told anyone involved with the trump campaigns that the russians had dirt on candidate clinton. >> i believe in the report, that's accurate. >> yeah, in the report, it says no documentary evidence that papadopoulos shared this...
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i'll be joined today by deputy special counsel aaron zebley. mr. zebley has extensive experience as a federal prosecutor and at the fbi where he served as my chief of staff. mr. zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. i also want to again say thank you to the attorneys, the fbi agents, the analysts, the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spent nearly two years working onhis matter were of the highest integrity. let me say one more thing. over the course of my career, i have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. the russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. as i said on may 29th, this deserves the attention of every american. thank you, mr. chairman. >> robert mueller ending his testimony. the questions will begin by chairman nadler. >> i will begin by recognizing myself for five minutes. director mueller, the president has repeatedly claimed that your report fou
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zebley. everyone else, please remain seated. >> this hearing is adjourned. >>> wrapping up almost three hours before the house intelligence committee, his testimony on the 448-page mueller report. this, counsel mueller's 90th
zebley. everyone else, please remain seated. >> this hearing is adjourned. >>> wrapping up almost three hours before the house intelligence committee, his testimony on the 448-page mueller report. this, counsel mueller's 90th
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zebley is a long-time aid, as you said. he knows mueller. he will know if he needs a break, a specific page number. he has had extensive experience in nationalllnde is well equipped to help shepherd him through this marathon hearing. >> all right. paula reid. let's go back to nancy cordes as people are starting to fill in that hearing room. i know you spent the last couple of weeks speaking to both the democrats and the republicans on this committee. beyond bringing this report to life, what are democrats hoping to achieve? >> reporter: well, they really want to drill down, norah, on those ten incidents of potential obstruction of justice that the mueller report laid out in pretty great detail. and they want to get mueller on the record, explaining those incidents and explaining to them why he never concluded at the end of the day whether the president committed a crime. he even went so far, norah, as to divvy up different instances to different lawmakers because they don't want to overlap. congressman from rhode island said he will be focus
zebley is a long-time aid, as you said. he knows mueller. he will know if he needs a break, a specific page number. he has had extensive experience in nationalllnde is well equipped to help shepherd him through this marathon hearing. >> all right. paula reid. let's go back to nancy cordes as people are starting to fill in that hearing room. i know you spent the last couple of weeks speaking to both the democrats and the republicans on this committee. beyond bringing this report to life,...
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zebley. everyone else, please remain seated. >> this hearing is adjourned. >> after the hearing, nancy pelosi and kevin mccarthy held briefings to talk about mueller 's testimony. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening. sorry for the delay. it's been an interesting day. ...
zebley. everyone else, please remain seated. >> this hearing is adjourned. >> after the hearing, nancy pelosi and kevin mccarthy held briefings to talk about mueller 's testimony. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening. sorry for the delay. it's been an interesting day. ...
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what's unusual here is the fact that zebley was part of this investigation. he was, as the statement from the spokesman said, had day-to-day oversight. he's also a witness essentially, wolf. if you're the president's lawyers, you have to wonder whether the answers zebley is giving to mueller, if he asks for them, are zebley's point of view that are different from mueller's. it does create an odd situation that is not exactly normal for these types of situations. so i think it does raise some concern if you're the president's lawyers as to what exactly is happening behind the scenes here and whether this changes the tenor of tomorrow's hearing as far as the president is concerned. >> like mueller, zebley is now a private citizen. you are not necessarily bound by any gag orders from the department of justice. >> he is not. the justice department is objecting to this testimony, but he's a private citizen and can ignore that. again, the difference know. and so that's what this creates. >> you think mueller will be whispering in his ear asking for some advice? i d
what's unusual here is the fact that zebley was part of this investigation. he was, as the statement from the spokesman said, had day-to-day oversight. he's also a witness essentially, wolf. if you're the president's lawyers, you have to wonder whether the answers zebley is giving to mueller, if he asks for them, are zebley's point of view that are different from mueller's. it does create an odd situation that is not exactly normal for these types of situations. so i think it does raise some...
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the president also taking exception to aaron zebley testifying alongside robert mueller. he tweeted this out about the deputy special counsel writing, quote, it was never agreed that robert mueller could use one of his many democrat never trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers. this was specifically not agreed to and i would never have agreed to it. the greatest witch hunt in u.s. history by far. we should point out it's not especially known that aaron zebley is a never trumper or he's a democrat. federal records indicate he's never donated to either political party. still the president wants to paint him a certain way just as he tried to paint robert mueller in a negative light suggesting he had conflicts of interest. as for whether the president will be watching earlier this week, he played coy. might watch parts of the testimony. knowing this president just how much he consumes cable news, it's safe to say he'll be watching. as for when we might hear from him outside of twitter, the president has a fund raider later tonight in west virginia. w
the president also taking exception to aaron zebley testifying alongside robert mueller. he tweeted this out about the deputy special counsel writing, quote, it was never agreed that robert mueller could use one of his many democrat never trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers. this was specifically not agreed to and i would never have agreed to it. the greatest witch hunt in u.s. history by far. we should point out it's not especially known that aaron zebley is a...
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but what is unusual is aaron zebley is both a witness and counsel.nd in the first hearing with the house judiciary committee he's going to be sitting along side him but then in the second one he's been sworn in, and we could also be testifying alongside robert mueller, and so that is pretty unique. the president has been tweeting about this this morning. clearly this is on his mind. he's making a big deal out of the fact this is request from robert mueller and he's going to be helping with some of the answers, which is pretty rich because the president also conferred with his lawyers. >> and one of the questions i assume will be asked and maybe you can help us on this, why didn't you demand a sit down interview with the president of the united states? why did you only allow written questions and written answers? >> bob mueller addressed that in part in the report reciting how there are a lot of cases in which you either bring or decide not to bring an obstruction case without talking to the potential target. my view has always been he had a tough dec
but what is unusual is aaron zebley is both a witness and counsel.nd in the first hearing with the house judiciary committee he's going to be sitting along side him but then in the second one he's been sworn in, and we could also be testifying alongside robert mueller, and so that is pretty unique. the president has been tweeting about this this morning. clearly this is on his mind. he's making a big deal out of the fact this is request from robert mueller and he's going to be helping with some...
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president trump is slamming zebley as a "never trumper."rl has more. >> reporter: just before his long-awaited testimony, former special counsel robert mueller had a late request. he asked for his long-time aide, aaron zebley, to be sworn in alongside him. republicans objected. congressman jim jordan tweeting, you don't get to change the rules right before kickoff. in the end a compromise. zebley will be able to sit next to mueller and confer with him but will not testify. mueller himself didn't want this day to come. >> any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. >> reporter: but the special counsel's in-person testimony is what democrats have been waiting for. they assume most americans have not read his report. >> for many americans, just learning what is in the report will be a revolution. >> reporter: even the fbi director acknowledged he hasn't read the whole thing. >> i -- i've reviewed it. i wouldn't say i've read every single word. >> reporter: a long-time public servant and fbi director for more than a decade, m
president trump is slamming zebley as a "never trumper."rl has more. >> reporter: just before his long-awaited testimony, former special counsel robert mueller had a late request. he asked for his long-time aide, aaron zebley, to be sworn in alongside him. republicans objected. congressman jim jordan tweeting, you don't get to change the rules right before kickoff. in the end a compromise. zebley will be able to sit next to mueller and confer with him but will not testify....
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is,more on who aaron zebley --oo!ews yesterday evening he worked in the fbi counterterrorism division for seven years as part of the team who chased members of al qaeda. when mueller left the fbi to join wilmer hale law firm, ze bley followed him a week later. after he joined the investigation into allegations of collusion, becoming mueller's closest associate, he served as the intermediary in the justice department, trump yesterday accusing him and other staffers of being supporters of hillary clinton because zebley previously represented a clinton aide. president trump with that tweet last night. forrt mueller has asked long time, never trump lawyer to sit beside him and help with answers. what's that about? the server guy who got free in the crooked hillary case. from members today of the judiciary committee. collins, the top republican on the committee, saying less than 24 hours before robert mueller arrives, the chairman is allowing the committee's business to devolve into chaos. this shows the length democrats w
is,more on who aaron zebley --oo!ews yesterday evening he worked in the fbi counterterrorism division for seven years as part of the team who chased members of al qaeda. when mueller left the fbi to join wilmer hale law firm, ze bley followed him a week later. after he joined the investigation into allegations of collusion, becoming mueller's closest associate, he served as the intermediary in the justice department, trump yesterday accusing him and other staffers of being supporters of hillary...
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the president accusing zebley, without evidence, of being bias against him. adding, very unfair.m at the entire process while speaking to teenagers at a conservative summit. >> gee, let's impeach the president. i mean, you figure, these people have gone totally crazy. >> reporter: in another escalation overnight, house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff blasted theustice department for instructing mueller, who had asked for guidance, to remain within the boundaries of his ppolic re. schiff writing, i fully expect that the doj letter will have no bearing on your testimony before the committee. republicans downplaying the testimony. >> the conclusions that bob eller reached are not supported by the facts. >> reporter: mueller found no criminal conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia but made no determination about whether the president obstructed justice. among the key questions he'll likely face today, first, would muler bring charges against mr. trump if he were not in office? if after mueller outlined ten ce instan of possible obstruction of justice by the pres
the president accusing zebley, without evidence, of being bias against him. adding, very unfair.m at the entire process while speaking to teenagers at a conservative summit. >> gee, let's impeach the president. i mean, you figure, these people have gone totally crazy. >> reporter: in another escalation overnight, house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff blasted theustice department for instructing mueller, who had asked for guidance, to remain within the boundaries of his...
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do you have any reservations about allowing the deputy aaron zebley testify alongside him? >> my understanding is that he will not testify but be there so that robert mueller can occasionally seek his advice. but i hope that we're -- we're not going to be interrupted by consultations as much as mr. mueller has a chance to kind of speak his mind and tell us what is in the report and why it matters. >> will aaron zebley be formally sworn in as a witness or just sit there as an aide to the former special counsel and whisper in his ear from time to time? >> i'm not sure. i think that is being hashed out right now but it appears he will be at least accessible to mr. mueller. >> your colleagues on the house judiciary committee plan to focus their questions on issues surrounding potential obstruction of justice by the president. your committee, the intelligence committee, will focus in on russian interference in the 2016 election. what is the biggest question you have for the former special counsel on that front? >> i've several questions but i think the biggest question is what d
do you have any reservations about allowing the deputy aaron zebley testify alongside him? >> my understanding is that he will not testify but be there so that robert mueller can occasionally seek his advice. but i hope that we're -- we're not going to be interrupted by consultations as much as mr. mueller has a chance to kind of speak his mind and tell us what is in the report and why it matters. >> will aaron zebley be formally sworn in as a witness or just sit there as an aide to...
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he is not expected zebley is to be sworn in or testifyt all. he'll be the guy in robert mueller's ear being fired questions from both democrats and republicans. democrats want him to detail what they believe is lots of vidence of obstruction of justice in his report on russian election interference. on the other side, republicans will be honing in on why that investigation started ifithe st place based on what they think is bad information and fbt miscondu. the fireworks gets started at 8:30 this morning. five t hours,wo hearings, two da committees toy. >> big day in the district for re. thanks so much tracie potts for us live hon theill this morning. we'll all be >>> nbc news will provide special covera of the robert mueller entire testimony today. coverage begins at 8:15 this morning as we were mentioning. extiected to cone well into the afternoon. and join us afterwards right here for news 4 at 4 and we'll recap it all for you. >>> staying on the hill this week more than 150 distillers from across e country were on the hill, but it wasn't in
he is not expected zebley is to be sworn in or testifyt all. he'll be the guy in robert mueller's ear being fired questions from both democrats and republicans. democrats want him to detail what they believe is lots of vidence of obstruction of justice in his report on russian election interference. on the other side, republicans will be honing in on why that investigation started ifithe st place based on what they think is bad information and fbt miscondu. the fireworks gets started at 8:30...
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already objecting to a late request from special counsel mueller to have his longtime aide aaron zebley sworn in alongside him. president trump weighing in saying zebley's appearance should not be allowed and calling the investigation a rigged witch-hunt. >> $40 million. interview 500 people. they got nothing. >> reporter: now, president trump has been going back and forth as to whether or not he'll watch as mueller is testifying and mueller has said he's not going to be revealing anything other than what's been written. he has said, quote, the report is my testimony. janai, kenneth. >> trevor, thank you. stay with abc news for live coverage of the hearings beginning this morning at 8:15. abc's powerhouse political team will be standing by. >>> well, breaking local media outlets are reporting puerto rico's embattled governor is resigning. ricardo rossello will reportedly step down in a video address later today. the governor's office is not commenting on the reports. this would be an abrupt about-face by rossello who had refused to step aside despite nearly two weeks of sometimes violen
already objecting to a late request from special counsel mueller to have his longtime aide aaron zebley sworn in alongside him. president trump weighing in saying zebley's appearance should not be allowed and calling the investigation a rigged witch-hunt. >> $40 million. interview 500 people. they got nothing. >> reporter: now, president trump has been going back and forth as to whether or not he'll watch as mueller is testifying and mueller has said he's not going to be revealing...
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zebley will not be directly questioned and he will not provide any answers. zebley, just to give you some background here, was a key figure in the hillary clinton email investigation. he then moved over with robert mueller to the russia probe. and then tonight in totally separately -- in other big news as we head into an election year, attorney general barr dropped another bombshell. there will be a justice department probe into the work of firms such as google, facebook, and amazon. they didn't name the firms, but that's the kind of company that we believe we are talking about here. all of that in a moment. tonight we get the story from two lawmakers who will be the questioning tomorrow. in moments congressman matt gaetz but first we go to eric swalwell, a member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, thank you very much for being here. >> of course, of course, good evening. >> martha: good evening to you. so first of all, why do you think there was this late decision to add aaron zebley to the table there? >> honestly, i don't know. to me, the most
zebley will not be directly questioned and he will not provide any answers. zebley, just to give you some background here, was a key figure in the hillary clinton email investigation. he then moved over with robert mueller to the russia probe. and then tonight in totally separately -- in other big news as we head into an election year, attorney general barr dropped another bombshell. there will be a justice department probe into the work of firms such as google, facebook, and amazon. they...
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he tried to refer questions to zebley.m for help, times like this. >> volume 2, page 1, your report boldly states we determined not to make a traditional prosecutial judgment. is that correct? >> i'm trying to find that citation, congressman. >> so you see, you see his hand and pen. you were there you is a that. zebley had day to day oversight of the investigation. mueller wanted him worn in and perhaps today we now know why. he is the one who knew this intimately at the detail level. did you all make a mistake by not asking zebley questions directly? >> no, i don't think so, again, bob mueller led the investigation. the american people deserve to hear from him today. but informs act one. act 2 will be all of the witnesses who were invoked today. i think americans watching this at home who heard bob mueller's voice the first time in their life want to hear about corey lewandowski and the orders president trump gave him to tell sessions to limit the investigation. they want to hear more about the polling data. again, a pres
he tried to refer questions to zebley.m for help, times like this. >> volume 2, page 1, your report boldly states we determined not to make a traditional prosecutial judgment. is that correct? >> i'm trying to find that citation, congressman. >> so you see, you see his hand and pen. you were there you is a that. zebley had day to day oversight of the investigation. mueller wanted him worn in and perhaps today we now know why. he is the one who knew this intimately at the...
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by mueller's side will be his attorney and longtime aide, aaron zebley. being billed as a last-minute decision. house judiciary committee is not going to swear aaron in both the house intelligence committee is which means that zebley may be a able to testify as well. exact details still being hashed out right now, shannon. speaker pelosi, she said tonight that she thinks the last minute request is acceptable. president trump describes it as a "last-minute change, allowing a never-trump her attorney to hh his testimony before congress tomorrow. what a disgrace to our system. never heard of this before. very unfair, should not be allowed. rigged witch hunt." somebody else would prefer to have miller testify alone. commerce and adam schiff, chairman of the second committee holding the hearings marketed adam schiff also upset about the letter from the department of justice instructing mueller to stick to what's in his report not go be on. said that the letter attempts to circumscribe her testimony and represents another attempt by the trump administration to
by mueller's side will be his attorney and longtime aide, aaron zebley. being billed as a last-minute decision. house judiciary committee is not going to swear aaron in both the house intelligence committee is which means that zebley may be a able to testify as well. exact details still being hashed out right now, shannon. speaker pelosi, she said tonight that she thinks the last minute request is acceptable. president trump describes it as a "last-minute change, allowing a never-trump her...
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zebley will be able to sit next to mueller and confer with him, but will not testify. mueller himself didn't want this day to come. >> any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. >> reporter: but the special counsel's in-person testimony is what democrats have been waiting for. they assume most americans have not read his report. >> for many americans, just learning what's in the report will be a revelation. >> reporter: today, even the fbi director acknowledged he hasn't read the whole thing. >> i've reviewed it. i wouldn't say i've read every single word. >> reporter: as a long-time public servant and fbi director for more than a decade, mueller has testified before congress 88 times. when he takes the oath tomorrow, president trump will be watching. today, he clearly had mueller on his mind. >> $40 million, interviewed 500 people, they got nothing. >> reporter: but mueller did outline 11 instances where the president may have obstructed justice. >> if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so. >
zebley will be able to sit next to mueller and confer with him, but will not testify. mueller himself didn't want this day to come. >> any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. >> reporter: but the special counsel's in-person testimony is what democrats have been waiting for. they assume most americans have not read his report. >> for many americans, just learning what's in the report will be a revelation. >> reporter: today, even the fbi director...
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zebley or mr.uarles or any of the other members of mueller's team, particularly having seen mueller himself today, to try to get more from his team, who actually seems to have done the work, about what their investigation was like? >> well, you may have noticed this morning that one person was particularly unhappy that aaron zebley was there and sworn in as a witness, and of course, that was the president, who was tweeting about it. there was another person who is, i think, very unhappy about it, and that was bill barr. justice department did not want him there. we wanted that precedent, frankly, that these members of the team can be called as witnesses, they can be sworn in, they can provide testimony, that the doj trying to stonewall that and make some claim of a policy just doesn't hold water, and this is even more true for people that have left the justice department. we're going to press to get the answers, in whatever format and through whatever means we need to. i think the short answer is g
zebley or mr.uarles or any of the other members of mueller's team, particularly having seen mueller himself today, to try to get more from his team, who actually seems to have done the work, about what their investigation was like? >> well, you may have noticed this morning that one person was particularly unhappy that aaron zebley was there and sworn in as a witness, and of course, that was the president, who was tweeting about it. there was another person who is, i think, very unhappy...
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but a house aide says zebley will be sworn in before the second round.n twitter, president trump blasted the move just got back only to hear of a last minute change allowing a never trumper attorney to help robert mueller with his testimony tomorrow. what a disgray to our system. never heard of this before. very unfair, should not be allowed. a rigged witch hunt. president trump cited article 2 of the constitution as granting him the ability to do, quote, whatever i want. >> how about this whole witch hunt that's going on. shall i talk about it for a second? goes on for years and years. no collusion, no obstruction. oh, that's not good enough. let's go more. $40 million. interviewed 500 people. they got nothing. they did everything. no collusion. no collusion. they have no collusion. then i have an article 2 where i have the right to do whatever i want as president, but i don't even talk about that. because they did a report, and there was no obstruction, after looking at it, our great attorney general read it. he's a total professional. he said, there's
but a house aide says zebley will be sworn in before the second round.n twitter, president trump blasted the move just got back only to hear of a last minute change allowing a never trumper attorney to help robert mueller with his testimony tomorrow. what a disgray to our system. never heard of this before. very unfair, should not be allowed. a rigged witch hunt. president trump cited article 2 of the constitution as granting him the ability to do, quote, whatever i want. >> how about...
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i think it is significant aaron zebley will listen to him.y is sitting next to him, they want their understanding what their work produced is clear to the american people? >> that is what they want. i think what they should be concerned about, what that looks like. we've had a lot of commentary about mueller being very staff driven. that he was kind of a detached, some of the lawyers worked on the case basically said he was detached, he was not hands on, his staff ran everything, while president trump tweets about the staff being a bunch of angry democrats, right? having him there, look, i testified in front of this committee like three weeks ago. you don't usually get to have somebody there to help you along. i don't think it's a great look for him. bret: house judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler, as the rest of the committee starts filing in the rayburn house office building getting underway. juan, we have a poll out, just out, a "fox news poll," the chance that mueller testimony could change your mind about president trump. none 49%
i think it is significant aaron zebley will listen to him.y is sitting next to him, they want their understanding what their work produced is clear to the american people? >> that is what they want. i think what they should be concerned about, what that looks like. we've had a lot of commentary about mueller being very staff driven. that he was kind of a detached, some of the lawyers worked on the case basically said he was detached, he was not hands on, his staff ran everything, while...
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he calls zebley a never trumper.party affiliation, "the washington post" reports he's never donated to a candidate from either party, and we should remind our viewers that robert mueller himself is a long time republican. >> long time republican as is everyone else that was a part of the congressional investigation when republicans ran, boeth sids of pennsylvania avenue. john heilemann, it's funny, listening to a president panicking and bringing up a guy's name who nobody has heard of before. he's desperate, and the president follows polls closely. a poll comes out, what 60% of republicans think that robert mueller conducted a fair investigation. >> that's right. 60. >> when you're the president of the united states, and you have 60% of the people in your own party believing that robert mueller conducted a fair investigation after, may i remind everyone, after the president called it a witch hunt for a year and a half or so repeatedly, now the poor guy, and i really -- i tend to feel sorry for him this morning, fumbl
he calls zebley a never trumper.party affiliation, "the washington post" reports he's never donated to a candidate from either party, and we should remind our viewers that robert mueller himself is a long time republican. >> long time republican as is everyone else that was a part of the congressional investigation when republicans ran, boeth sids of pennsylvania avenue. john heilemann, it's funny, listening to a president panicking and bringing up a guy's name who nobody has...
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zebley.ve concerns about his prior representation of the hillary clinton campaign aide. trish: former federal prosecutor doug burns and john, does nobody care about the appearance of conflict of interest anymore? >> i think things have changed so much in washington. with director comey talking about the hillary clinton and how we have all this evidence but we are not going prosecute. i think it changed the tenor of things where people can work for whoever and it doesn't matter any more. trish: my dad was a lawyer, small town trial lawyer, and he was a big believer in the process, and everybody is entitled to a defense and innocents until proven guilty. he might stay as long as you are a good lawyer doing your job, your personal bias isn't going to creep in. but in washington, especially these days -- >> they said, you can't automatically say this person is actually biased. but fit appears there is a bias and there have been legitimate allegations that the investigation seemed fairly overtly p
zebley.ve concerns about his prior representation of the hillary clinton campaign aide. trish: former federal prosecutor doug burns and john, does nobody care about the appearance of conflict of interest anymore? >> i think things have changed so much in washington. with director comey talking about the hillary clinton and how we have all this evidence but we are not going prosecute. i think it changed the tenor of things where people can work for whoever and it doesn't matter any more....
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this -- the fact is it bo came evidence, he admitted that aaron zebley ran the day-to-day operation, who happened to represent hillary clinton's i-t guy. it was a partisan witch-hunt run bipartisans, because. mueller -- this is first day he read parts of his report. kennedy: you did get to that sense, that is so strange. i don't to want to belittle robt mueller. a lot went out to point out his impressive career, service in vietnam into 4 different administrations, but you -- he knew this day was coming but he seemed rather unprepared. >> i give you that, i don't think he was best witness. but let's be clear, i think this is a first time in american history we have this conversation about men, women who serve the nation, fbi agents who go to work, prosecutor, who go to work every day to serve the country, we have a conversation who they vote for, instead of what they do for work every day, robert mueller was very clear, saying i hire the best people, not how they vote but how they do the job. kennedy: even ken starr -- ken starr who did the same job, he didn't do a bang up job, he bat
this -- the fact is it bo came evidence, he admitted that aaron zebley ran the day-to-day operation, who happened to represent hillary clinton's i-t guy. it was a partisan witch-hunt run bipartisans, because. mueller -- this is first day he read parts of his report. kennedy: you did get to that sense, that is so strange. i don't to want to belittle robt mueller. a lot went out to point out his impressive career, service in vietnam into 4 different administrations, but you -- he knew this day...
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and instead have zebley answer those questions instead. republicans are saying this should not be agreed to. they're saying this is unprecedented. it would undercut integrity of the committee. democrats have not agreed to this yet, but i am told from a source familiar with the mat te, zebley will be there as a counsel for the hearing tomorrow, will sit next to him. it's not clear if he will be sworn in, that's what the republicans are concerned about. they show how sensitive these negotiations have been. all right democrats have been preparing behind the scenes. some democrats including joaquin castro believes tomorrow's hearing could change the dial and raise the prospects of impeachment proceedings in the house. >> do you think it could change the dial of impeach snmt. >> i think it could. when people hear robert mueller listed out ten instances where the president may have obstructed justice, and a part of the fact that he's not being indicted is because he's the sitting president, yeah, i think that's important to people. i think it's
and instead have zebley answer those questions instead. republicans are saying this should not be agreed to. they're saying this is unprecedented. it would undercut integrity of the committee. democrats have not agreed to this yet, but i am told from a source familiar with the mat te, zebley will be there as a counsel for the hearing tomorrow, will sit next to him. it's not clear if he will be sworn in, that's what the republicans are concerned about. they show how sensitive these negotiations...
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he will have his aide, aaron zebley sitting near him and will be able to consult over questions, something president trump is not happy about. the president tweeted it was inform agreed robert mueller could use one of his many democrat never trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers and described executive branch. mu testifying today. muller spend three hours before the house committee this the morning and two hours before the house intelligence committee later in the afternoon. >> i don't know anybody who is more controlled than bob mueller in terms of being honest about his reaction and closed mouth about things. >> reporter: we can expect members to probe him about the conclusions of his report, mainly his investigation found evidence of russian interference in the election but did not establish that members oh the trump cam train conspired or coordinated with the government in the activities. for the first three hours of obstruction of justice and whether the report found president trump tried to stop the investigation. the mueller report was far less clear aing
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aaron zebley. mr. zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. now i also want to again say thank you to theat rneys, the fbi agents and analysts and helped usal staff who conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spent nearly two years working on this matter were of the highest te y.gr ye course of m career, i have seen a number of challenges who are democracy, the russian government efforts to interfere in our election is among the most serious. as i said on may 29th, this deserves the attention ofer eve aman. thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you, we'll proceed under thee f minutes rule of question. >> the president repeatedly claim your report found of no obstruction and complete exonerated him. that's not what your report says, is it? >> krcorrect. that's not what the report says. >> volume two on the screen, you wrote "if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president cl
aaron zebley. mr. zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. now i also want to again say thank you to theat rneys, the fbi agents and analysts and helped usal staff who conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spent nearly two years working on this matter were of the highest te y.gr ye course of m career, i have seen a number of challenges who are democracy, the russian government efforts to...
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i will be joined today by deputy special counsel aaron zebley who has extensive experience as a federal prosecutor and at the fbi where he served as my chief of staff. aaron zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. i also want to say thank you to the attorneys, fbi agents, analysts, facial staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spend nearly two years working on this matter were of the highest integrity. . over the course of my career, i have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. government's efforts to interfere in our election is among the most serious. as i said on may 29, this deserves the attention of every american. thank you, mr. chairman. rep. nadler: thank you. we will now proceed under the five-minute will of questions. i will recognize myself for five minutes. director mueller, the president has repeatedly claimed your report found there was no obstruction and a completely and totally exonerated him. that is not what your report said, is it? mr. mue
i will be joined today by deputy special counsel aaron zebley who has extensive experience as a federal prosecutor and at the fbi where he served as my chief of staff. aaron zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. i also want to say thank you to the attorneys, fbi agents, analysts, facial staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spend nearly two years working on this matter...
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zebley. mr. zebley has extensive experience as a federal prosecutor and at the fbi where he served as my chief of staff. mr. zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. i also want to, again, say thank you to the attorneys, the fbi agents, the analysts, the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spent nearly two years working on this matter were of the highest integrity. let me say one more thing. over the course of my career, i have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. the russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. as i said on may 29th, this deserves the attention of every american. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. we will now proceed under the five-minute rule with questions. i will begin by recognizing myself for five minutes. director mueller, the president has repeatedly claimed that your report found
zebley. mr. zebley has extensive experience as a federal prosecutor and at the fbi where he served as my chief of staff. mr. zebley was responsible for the day-to-day oversight of the investigations conducted by our office. i also want to, again, say thank you to the attorneys, the fbi agents, the analysts, the professional staff who helped us conduct this investigation in a fair and independent manner. these individuals who spent nearly two years working on this matter were of the highest...
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tonight a spokesman for mueller said aaron zebley was a deputy special counsel. he will accompany special counsel mueller to the hearing as was discussed more than a week ago. mueller's more than 148-page report clearly shows conduct by the president that at the absolutely most charitable, if you really bend over backwards, demonstrates a profound failure to uphold his oath to faithfully execute the laws of the united states. at the worst, it constitutes not only high crimes and misdemeanors, but actual crimes. for all the coverage we've seen about how the american people haven't read the mueller report and don't care about it and don't know what's going on, a quinnipiac poll taken just after the poll was released found 57% of voters said trump committed crimes before he became president. 54% said trump attempted to derail or obstruct the investigation into the russian interference in the 2016 election. and 51% said the mueller report did not clear trump of any wrongdoing. but that was almost three months ago. at a certain point the idea tomorrow for this spectac
tonight a spokesman for mueller said aaron zebley was a deputy special counsel. he will accompany special counsel mueller to the hearing as was discussed more than a week ago. mueller's more than 148-page report clearly shows conduct by the president that at the absolutely most charitable, if you really bend over backwards, demonstrates a profound failure to uphold his oath to faithfully execute the laws of the united states. at the worst, it constitutes not only high crimes and misdemeanors,...