that's why the state of new jersey stepped up and put a zec process in place to help the plants stayment has done the same. it's not necessarily lobbyists doing that, but i think folks are just copping to realize the value -- coming to realize the value of carbon-free generation that those plants provide to the customers in the area that . goes beyond that and becomes a national security issue at some point as well. liz: ralph, thanks for coming on, and i already am hearing from some viewers saying my bill hasn't come down yet but listen, we're watching it all so closely and pass those savings onto customers when and if you can. >> well, liz, we're going to follow up with you and make sure you don't have a third party supplier. liz: i better not, i'm getting a pseg bill. thank you, ralph, good to see you. >> thank you, take care. liz: did you hear this, striking hollywood writers are holding first talks with major studios on friday. the first time since going on strike way back in may. is there a breakthrough? we have a live report next. closing bell 14 minutes away. the dow is off t