so i think we have ainge zeile so for today it was sort of a perfect storm. we did close on the lows it's definitely worrisome, definitely room for concern, but it's hard to know what tomorrow will bring. >> alec, what's user text as to if we see the leave are bearshes in dodds you this expectations have come dun down a month? >> no, i think we're likely to see further negative revisions despite the weakness from global his, the irony is that the consensus on wall street is expecting an in this in the fourth quarter, and into next year it's supportsed to be 11% in 2020. right now there's no cad list that would late to this agency celebrate and profit growth. it's clear that the consensus is too optimistic that's why one we so some sign of make are mac look stability, whether it's end takes or intereconomic decide are data,ent we seed those things, i think the path of least leasesance listen lower. investors have been very pashlt, and i think the bears are slowly gaining momentum it's just not possible to be optimistic when you're seeing the kind of unpressed