zeke emanuel. he's the vice provost of global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania, he's the author of the book "which one has the world's best healthcare" and for a microminute he was my co-host of a show weekly in which we looked at the science and the medical aspects of coronavirus. zeke, good to see you again. i don't know where to start but let me start with this last part because you and i did have a very good in-depth discussion some months ago about convalescent blood plasma. it is a thing and it is helpful. but it's not the thing president trump says it is. >> well, the problem is the president has been acting like a doctor. if you look at the research in about 35,000 people, but it wasn't randomized and there was no placebo and the studies, a lot of physicians were hesitant about the studies because a lot of it could be due to what we call patient selection. different patients getting the plasma at different times because of what doctors' intuition about them. and most people did

the democratic political activist zeke emanuel was one of the first to reveal how the left's plan tose the pandemic to change the united states. here he is on msnbc four months ago this week. >> realistically, covid-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more. we will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications. it is all that economic pain worth trying to stop covid-19? the truth is we have no choice. >> tucker: oh, the truth is we have no choice. except, in a democracy, we always have a choice. that's why it's different from an autocracy. in a democracy, on the big questions, the public gets to decide what the public wants. the people rule. that's the whole point of the american system. but the left had no plans to let the public decide anything. so instead, they issued resolute decrees, remain at home. wear a mask, do not congregate with others. no one asked voters what they thought about any of this. democracy played no role in it. men with guns and forced the orders, government used advanced technology to track down anyone who does a bad

zeke emanuel vice provost at university of pennsylvania former obama policy adviser. >>> anger bubbling in lebanon as a massive explosion tilled more than 158 people and injured thousands more. up next a live report from the ground in beirut. >>> plus president trump claimed the innocent was an attack, yesterday defense officials say no way to back that up. his statement not only misinformed but dangerous. "she "s "velshi," back after this. thi. >> tech: when you've got auto glass damage... ...safelite can come to you. >> tech: and you'll get a text when we're on our way. >> tech: just leave your keys on the dash and we'll replace your windshield with safe, no-contact service. >> tech: schedule at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ [ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. olay's new serum is so powerful, won. it renews skin better than $300, $500, even $600 serums. pretty amazing. olay. face anything. since you're he