>> i don't know -- i'd like to throw in one thing about zeke emanuel. eke is doing good by doing well and doing well by doing good. he has his own consulting firm where he consults with people for profit to make money from giving them recommendations about how to get around and get past the lockdown advice that he's pushing, the lockdown that he's pushing. >> tucker: to get around? >> you know, too -- yes. the company is -- it's basically consulting, if you reopen, here's how to reopen safely. he's encouraging lockdowns to be in place and to be sort of moved back phase by phase and then if you have a business where you p actually want to have customers, he's going to tell you -- he and others are going to tell you how you can do that. and i think it's easy to sort of underestimate how big a business covid has become. lockdown -- forget rock down. testing alone, we are spending almost a billion dollars a week on testing, nothing else. a >> tucker: and i'm embarrassed, as you said, i didn't know that about zeke emanuel. and second that we haven't spent ghe

zeke emanuel, former obama white house health adviser, the author of "which country has the world's best health care." zeke, a lot of breaking news, but just to recap, as early as january 28th, the president was told by his national security advise and her his deputy national security adviser that this was a deadly virus that was coming from china, and that it was airborne. >> yeah, and it's obvious, you know, you asked the question, as they did during nixon, what did the president know and when did he know it. and he clearly knew in january that this was going to be a major potential catastrophe for the country as well as the world. and rather than step up and take control, the way a great leader like winston churchill would do, or franklin roosevelt, he decided to play ostrich and bury his head, and the american public, in the sand, and pretend that this huge threat didn't exist. and that is really disheartening and, you know, now we all suspected it because of the peter navarro memo that he received, and now it's been confirmed by tapes and interviews with the president himself, and h

on the 20th, zeke emanuel says this is all an overreaction. we have nancy pelosi sake on the china town, don't worry about this, that happened on the 23rd. on the 29th, zeke emanuel says the masks aren't going to work, this is the day the first american dies from the coronavirus and joe biden's top advisors on television say don't go out and run out and get a mask it's not going to do any good. then on the 12th as president trump is putting in place of travel ban on europe, lisa monaco a top advisor to biden and biden himself go out and double-team on the issue of the european travel ban and say we don't need to do this. we don't hear the word mask from biden, we don't hear the word social distancing fromen biden,e don't hear the idea of a lockdown, we don't hear the idea of invoking the national defense production act in order to get control of the ppe problem that biden obama administration created by not refilling our stockpiles, we don't hear those until after the middle of march when president trump is already talking about all of those t

zeke emanuel and author of "which country has the world's best healthcare." bravo to zeke, he serves on biden's campaign coronavirus task force. thank you for joining us, good luck with the book. >> thank you. the president says listen nobody knows what the hell is going on with coronavirus. don't do it. as soon as i got a handle what's going on. nobody handle it better than us. we are handling it as well as anybody else, true? >> false. you have to look at places like taiwan, new zealand, both of those countries, taiwan has 24 million people, fewer than 500 cases. seven deaths in the entire country. the economy is going. new zealand, five million people, fewer than 500 cases and fewer than ten deaths and place have done poorly like italy, they were in terrible shape in march, they peaked around march 26th or 27th, towards the end of march. and then by may they were very low and they actually were that way for most of the summer until august vacation when people ignored all the public health measures. many other countries did much better than us. we did hit a

zeke emanuel, vice provost for global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania and former whitelth policy adviser in the obama administration. first, your reaction to what the president once again said, downplaying the pandemic, saying young people are unaffected. we know from bob woodward's book it not from other scientists in the task force that he has repeatedly been told that young people are not immune. >> so there are, you know, three or four pieces of evidence that we need to put on the table. it is true that younger people, people under 18, 24, don't die as frequently. we've only had about 400 deaths in people, americans, under 24. on the other hand, 8.5% of all cases, and as you point out, we're approaching 7 million cases, so that's nearly 700,000 of those cases, are in people under 18. the third point is that in people under 65, we've had 38,000 deaths. it's hardly a trivial number of deaths in younger people. and the other thing that the president is missing is that we don't know about the long term complications. we know that there are long term complications. we've

zeke emanuel. i do believe in home work though. i do believe in the grind. if you read, "which country has the world's best health care?" you will get a much better analysis than i have ever offered you or i have seen offered about why the different fates were what they've been to this point in different countries and in different systems. it is worth the read especially before the election. dr. zeke emanuel, god bless, good to see you, be well. >> thanks for having me on. really appreciate it. >> always a pleasure. >>> we have one of the community leaders who met with former vp biden today in kenosha. what does he see as the problem there? did it end the way the president proclaimed? what is the way forward? next. as business moves forward, we're all changing the way things get done. like how we redefine collaboration... how we come up with new ways to serve our customers... and deliver our products. but no matter how things change, one thing never will... you can rely on the people and the network of at&t... to help keep your business connected. ♪ where ev

michigan lieutenant governor garlin gilchrist, former obama white house health policy adviser, zeke emanuel, and barry mccaffrey. we want to have a conversation under the umbrella of leadership during a time of crisis, and starting first on the coronavirus and the president's words, zeke, that he didn't want to incite panic. that's why he wasn't honest with the american public, that's why he lied to the american public about it. what's your reaction? >> horrible. you need leadership. and you need the president to exert leadership and part of that leadership is coming clean with the public about what to expect and what the country needs them to do to respond. instead, the president has mocked people who have responded by social distancing, wearing masks, it's just the wrong response. think of any great leader in our country. they acknowledge the problem, and they tell you what they need you to do and what they are going to do for you to resolve the problem. that's what franklin roosevelt would have done, that's what abraham lincoln did. that is what winston churchill did. downplaying an even

zeke emanuel after this break.a proposal how distribution should work before we head to the break, check on the futures the dow bouncing back after losing more than 800 points yesterday. up by 148. the s&p down even more it was down by 3.5%. indicated up by 8.5 points the nasdaq was the big loser down by 5% halfway to a correction. this morning those futures indicated down once again. right now down by 77 we do have the big jobs number coming up. stick around, "squawk box" will be right back. give you my world ♪ ♪ how can i, when you won't take it from me ♪ ♪ you can go your own way ♪ ♪ go your own way your wireless. your rules. only with xfinity mobile. >>> welcome back, everybody. our next guest is proposing a model for global distribution of the vaccines let's welcome dr. zeke emanuel he's vice provost of global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania dr. emmanuel's plan has detained a new piece for "science" magazine thanks for being here today. >> great to be with you. >> before we jump into the specific

zeke emanuel said everyone needs to stop panicking, stop being .hysterical. on february 1st, that's the day biden the day after the travel banan implement it after ten das the first identified case of corona, old joe himself tweeted out that the travel ban was hysterical, xenophobic, and fearmongering. top biden advisor tweeted that we are experiencing a fear epidemic, not a covid-19 epidemic. joe biden himself called the president's aggressive covid-19, response, the travel ban, the first quarantine in over 50 years hysterical, xenophobia,no fearmongering, on multiple occasions as late as march the 18th. meanwhile joe biden was still holding indoor rallies in the month of march and he was doling out his world famous creepy hugs. remember those? he wasn't talking about social distancing. he wasn't wearing a mask. he wasn't coordinating an aggressive use of the defense production act or sorting out ppe.in he was against the travel ban, against the quarantine come against the subsequent 12 o'bannon 12 travelban for that saved hund hundreds of thousands of ameri

biden's adviser, zeke emanuel. don't want to do what trump is doing by giving vaccines to the elderly and at risk people first. they're going to die soon anyway. let's give it to young people instead. it's basically the death panels all over again. she makes an interesting point about biden and these people doubting the vaccine speed, warp speed. the reason we got warp speed delivered so quickly is because congress passed legislation in the tail end of the catastrophe, which was the biden-obama response to the swine flu where 60,000 americans were tested. what they did, you now assess the trial results as they come in instead of waiting for the end to assess them then. so that really like doubles and triples the amount of time you get to then assess these vaccines. that's why it's called operation warp speed. one more thing. i've been looking at all the states. all 50 states on the trends, every single state in the united states is seeing a decline in the amount of deaths. you can nitpick. there's a few states like

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zeke emanuel, the former health policy adviser to president obama. he's now the vice provost of global initiatives at the university of pennsylvania and also an adviser to the joe biden covid task force. dr. emanuel also just led a team of global experts in proposing what they call an ethical framework for distributing a coronavirus vaccine worldwide. dr. emanuel, thank you so much for joining us. we're now learning the coronavirus vaccine study from the drug maker astrazeneca is now on hold due to a suspected serious adverse reaction in a participant over in the united kingdom at oxford university, which is cooperating in this study. health officials have warned that vaccine development is complicated. nothing is guaranteed. how concerning is this news to you? >> well, it is concerning, and it does tell you that predicting a date by which we're going to have results and we're going to introduce a vaccine is foolhardy because nature takes its course. and part of nature taking its course are unexpected adverse events that you need to understand and le

zeke emanuel, he's a medical contributor.h country has the world's best health care." and it is good to have you both. zeke, i will start with you. should schools be reopening? you can almost predict this with the colleges. >> mika, we have to be very careful about where we reopen and how we reopen. and you're 100% right. you can only reopen in the community that has a low transmission rate and there are many communities in this country that don't pass that bar alone. then you have to reopen in a safe way where students can socially distance and wear masks and do hand hygiene. those are critical elements. so even talking about reopening in places that have high transmission rates, georgia recently had a very high transmission rate, it's probably way too premature. in addition, at least the k-12 schools need a lot assistance to ensure they have ppe for students and that they have good ventilation and that they can spread students out, protect both students and the teachers and the the staff. and i think the president announcin

in early march, he was getting phone calls from rahm emanuel -- not rahm, from zeke emanuel, every othereke on the phone, who was beyond himself and practically frantic, and saying throughout early march, the window is closing, the window is closing. he kept calling the president, saying, mr. president, yes, nobody has died yet. and the infections are still not high, but the window is closing. and he kept saying that until, finally, at one point, like bob, he just gave up because the window had closed, and he knew that thousands and thousands of americans were going to die. donald trump was warned. you listen to what he said to bob woodward it seems he understood the warnings from his own staff and people like zeke emanuel, and he chose to ignore those frenzied warnings, regardless >> yeah, well, joe, i mean, the sadness of this -- and it's all portrayed in bob's book -- is that donald trump is a man of the moment he is not a man of history i mean, there's no link between donald trump thinking about winston churchill or franklin delano roosevelt, who leaders who both accepted bad news, h

so i do think t the politics here is not as simple as zeke suggests, it actually cuts both ways. >> reporter: ezekiel emanuel let's turn to this issue of panding coverage. you were there at the conception of the affordable care act. w itknow and have seen ho was been chipped away at and taken to court by the trum administration. if biden were to win and become the president, he's talked a lon about shening the aca and expanding its protections f how do you see a biden administration trying to deal with getting more people more healthcare? >> well, i think the first thing you would do is to try to expand what we have, increase the subsidies on the ,xchang increase choice with a public option so that more people could afford insurance through the exchantos. we're goinave to do something on medicaid because we have these 12 intransient state, d.p.a., north carolina -- thatp aren't eding medicaid, and we cannot get to universal coverage without that expansion of medicaid, and i think that's going roar some serious action. no incentives sm to be willing to make those states move, and the people whore being exclud