what about the president, zelena, also took several shots at hillary clinton last night. we're going to watch one right now. here it is. >> look, it's been proven we have a rigged system. it doesn't happen so easy. but this system, going to be a lot of changes. this is a rigged -- this is a rigged system. this is a sick system from the inside. >> interpretation, please? what is the president really trying to get at when he says that? >> i'm not really sure. i think his base there is a perception that the system is rigged against them and there was a lot of talk about, quote, economic anxiety. but make no mistake, he is in pensacola, florida right on the border of alabama campaigning for a child molester. he's going to mississippi. all of that is essentially a message to his base that we're going to go back to a time when people like me and joe did not have equal rights in this country. we have to stop beating around the bush when we talk about the president and insisting that he is not pandering to the racists in his base. every single person that voted for him is not a r

zelena with sirius xm, joe watkins and rick tyler, msnbc political analyst. thank you, everyone, for joining us. i want to start with you. are we too far out to start taking comfort in these numbers we're seeing? >> i think anything positive in polling at this moment is something that tells us, look, you need to organize and work with the grassroots, with organizations who have had in skrebl success in the last year most recently in the governors races in virginia. so i think what we are looking to is more women have signed up to run for office. it's really about the organizing. you don't look at a poll and say we have it in the bag and we don't have to do anything. you have to put the boots on the ground and neighbors talking to neighbors so democrats can come away with the house next year or maybe even win back the senate. >> joe is, what are republicans blaming and how do you think that will play into next year's campaign strategies? >> well, i saw it as not having been too together. members of the house, represent members of the house who doesn't support

let's bring in zelena maxwell, director of progressive programming for sirius xm. joe watkins, form erp white house aide to george bush. welcome to you all three on a saturday morning. rick, with you first here, do you see any sense of what white house insiders are saying about this very sudden and unexpected flynn development. if you were in the west wing, what would you be thinking? >> it should be very nerve-racking for the white house. he was close to president trump. remember flynn pled guilty to lying to the fbi, which you can't do. there's clearly other charges that he could be charged with related to his dealings with turkey. there is a kidnapping plot, et cetera. jared kushner's liability looks like whether he did lie to the fbi or not, we don't know if he did. kwropbtd that, i'm still not clear what the underlying charge is going to be. the logan act has never been prosecuted. it seems like it wouldn't be. it remains to be seen. president trump has been protecting general flynn. and outline he would want to protect jared kushner. there is still a lot of u

. >> let's bring in zelena maxwell for the clinton campaign now progressive program or for sirius xm. and joe watkins, aide to george w. bush, and michael steele, former adviser for jeb bush's campaign. good saturday morning to all three of you. attorney general jeff sessions provided something of a different take on the fbi yesterday. let's listen to that. >> president trump clearly suggested that the reputation and the status of the fbi is in tatters. do you share that view? >> well, i don't share the view that the fbi as functioning is not functioning at a high level all over the country. >> how do you make sense of the president's insistence that the fbi is in tatters? >> we are seeing a coordinated and strategic smear campaign of not only the fbi but the mueller investigation. that is their tactic in this moment as the investigation clearly is closing around the president and the people closest to him, his family members. we had don jr. testifying for nine hours. we had reports that the president's personal attorneys are meeting with special counsel. something that wouldn't norma