let's bring in julian zelinger to take a look at all of this. good to see you. so, let's begin with this audio tape. and who may have leaked it and why. what do you make of all of this, especially after hearing from sue carswell? >> well, it's really a minor scandal compared to all the other issues surrounding donald trump, from the statements on immigration to the tax release and to his association with all sorts of people, who are pretty controversial. this doesn't seem like a big issue. and so i don't know where it came from, but my guess is it will only work to his benefit. >> really? okay, so it's minor, but cumulatively, you know, you mentioned, the wall, et cetera, and now not releasing taxes. cumulatively, does all of this say or do something to his campaign? >> well, that's true. i mean, the cumulative damage is to raise questions in the electorate, especially those who are not his staunch supporters about, who is this guy? and is he a series candidate? that's ultimately an argument that must have of his critics, including hillary clinton, want to make