much, author activist and filmmaker from seattle washington, from cape town, now we have uh zenal abedien gaddafi, he is a coordinator at the zagzaki foundation south africa who joins us, znal abadin gaddafi, welcome to the program, um... "we are looking at minutes ago where the un um took had a meeting of which the us again uses vedo power, which in some sense uh would allow israel to continue what it's doing, not that israel heads international law nor the un. riad mansura, the palestinian envoy to the un, made some very good points of how it said that um israel doesn't deny killing, using his words, israel doesn't deny killing members of the same family, in one instance 45 members, it has done that through." about the years, right now we're looking at 3500 palestinians, almost all civilians, women and children to have been killed as a result, and he said that we can't allow this to happen, if the un can't uh do anything about this, where uh can countries resort to that are concerned to use the diplomatic route to prevent israel from continuing with this massacre? thank you very much for having