it as if i offered you and zerlina an opportunity to sign up for jared care.ere's how jared care works. you pay me $1 a month. if you get sick i give you a band-aid. get really sick, i will give you a bowl of chicken soup. we can call that a plan on the individual market. i am slightly exaggerating. there are plans out there, individual market that look a little bit too much look what i described as jared care. that won't work in any kind of health care reform system that is going to -- contain costs, be affordable, and accessible. so, yes. if you have, if you are one of the 270 million people covered through their employer, through government, you actually do get to keep your plan just the same way the president said. but if you are individual plan was grandfathered in and changed for the worse, it doesn't fit in obama care. >> zerilna from your stet what -- seat what do you think of the distinction, the way the president would say it when pushing for it and reality today? >> i think we have to keep perspective, insurance market. as some one who had to shop o

i want to bring in political analyst and grio.com contributor zerlina maxwell and chris wilson. >> good morning. >> here's the current salary for rank and file members of the house, $174,000 per year. that's about $3300 a week. when you've got 800,000 workers who are furloughed because congress can't pass a budget, should they get paid? >> no, they should not get paid. these furloughed workers are making the average american salary so they cannot go without paychecks. the idea that republicans in the house that forced this government to shut down and are taking home paychecks during the shutdown, that is ridiculous. i think most americans would agree they should give the money back. >> "the new york times" calls it, chris, phony self denial. almost half of the 535 members of congress are millionaires. their median net worth, $966,000. almost a million bucks. compare that to less than $67,000 median net worth for the typical american family. how would you characterize what's going on? >> well, i think it's the right decision to not get paid. but i want to point out there's a bit

i mean, of course, i'll agree with zerlina that there are instances every single day of unimaginable in this society and history is littered with not just meanness but pure evil like slavery, like the trail of tear, we have a blemished history but that does not make the country itself at its core mean or mean-spirited and i think there are everyday examples everywhere you look that prove that point. on the micro level and on the macro level. >> let me challenge for a moment. i agree with you that america is essentially a noble nation but we don't have an outcry anymore against barbaric behavior. we used to. we don't anymore. i mean, suing widows, suing widows, the people who do this should be outcasts. you know, if they have a legitimate beef, okay. put it aside. put it aside. these women didn't do anything to you. this suv guy trying to protect his 2-year-old in a car, you're suing him. are you kidding me? all americans should rise up against these kinds of atrocities, mr. benson and that disturbs me that we're not. >> well, bill, i would argue you have the number one cable news sho

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