are there so-called zhduns? are there many of them there, and are there really such people? unfortunately, there is such a category of people. people who are there were forced to stay in the city due to various life circumstances and are waiting for the return of ukraine. unfortunately, there are also those who were waiting for the russian peace. now they are coming to such enlightenment, facing looting, facing banditry , shooters who came under the guise of workers. -e are faced with such an attitude of the occupation authorities as to not to people, but it is too late, well, we were waiting for that and unfortunately, we stumbled upon it, to the great regret of mr. oleksandr, we are grateful that you were with us at this early hour for your comment oleksandr stryu

that there were people left there who did not want to go to ukraine. are there only the so-called zhdunsy people who could not make it, because many people have er family, in which there are er invalids and sick people who cannot be transported and therefore of course you cannot leave your relatives and there are many shares pro-ukrainian because we are brothers, inscriptions about ukrainian appear as they sing the national anthem of ukraine in our squares, a teahouse among the population that there are many russian-minded people left there, and propaganda works very well there, because even those who managed to visit mariupol there, then return back to ukraine they told me that russian propaganda is very brainwashing. they are not so tuned in to the news that they hear. it has already been there for the months that this particular russian television was there. they don't know anything else. they know how to analyze, they no longer know how to compare any news and information, they believe it because they are told only from one source. well, of course, there are many pro-russian people.

normal there, you know, sometimes they say that everyone who stayed in avdiyivka is there, all the zhdunshere. no, that’s not the case. it's not true, we understand that there is a certain number of people who are waiting for a reason, but the majority are still people who stay in the city, but now these are people for the most part, probably 50 percent, maybe even 60 - these are elderly people who are simply mentally difficult to compare this solution is not an easy evacuation to make, you know, conventionally speaking, their home. well, they decided there, they have relatives buried there, and they say that, and they, well, they tell the truth , they don't lie, well, that's the mentality of our ukrainians, you know what, what you need to be at home so that there is no a-a-na the account of those people who do not accept humanitarian aid, er, there is a certain number of them, unequivocally, er, they are waiting , but there are also those who do not accept because, er, they are not considered necessary, and there is another store in the city, er, people they still go there under fire, bu

in my opinion, the most important thing is that when the pro-russian zhduns talked about the fact thaty will not bomb the imperial odesa, rather than storm it, which enemy has shown that he is a terrorist. well, it is clear to everyone that he does not care about anything, and that is why today they were shelling, today there was such a heavy attack . i hope that this visit will be useful here it is not only about the recognition of the e-e part of ukraine, which is odesa, as a unesco heritage. in general, i think that ukraine has already entered history. of defense. it will be a key issue and they will continue to help us in this too, and on the other hand, we are talking about the fact that today is nato's birthday and today ukraine has shown that it is also for nato. it can transfer certain experience, including the work of air defense, so that today you are very aware of many such signs and i still consider them markers of our victory, it will not be as quick as we would like but nevertheless, today is a significant day, a significant night , a shaky night, but after a shaky night,

the enemy engaged ideological, and ideological work with the locals, because of course there were zhduns who welcomed the enemy, all of them saw these videos, well , is it possible that people sincerely welcomed the enemy or not sincerely , then there was no other question. well, i understand that there were people who were definitely not enemies but waited remained in the city, now there is, well, conventionally speaking, some kind of education of children in er-er in disappeared p oleksandr disappeared well, then i will leave this question obviously unanswered and there is p oleksandr about schools and maybe some propaganda lectures and winding up there are in e among people maybe some patriotic, well, ultra-patriotic russian concerts are held there, do they generally give a damn about ideology, they understand that it is not necessary here now and that there is no need to spend on it both emotionally and financially, in principle there is no need , please well, i would say that certain measures they are holding there, but it looks more like they are trying to gather people for reporti