so here's what ziegler claims victim two has said.is going to shock you, everyone. >> he very publicly, i have the documentation to prove this, in his own name said the accusers of jerry sandusky are not to be believed and he was the greatest thing that ever happened to him. he gave a police interview in september of that year saying he never molested me and the investigators tried to get him to lie. and then the day joe paterno was fired, i have it in my hands, this is an interview he gave to an fbi trained investigator, a former police officer saying that nothing happened in the shower that night. mcqueary is lying and the investigators trying to get him to lie. >> i mean these are pretty startling allegations. now victim two never testified, ann, as you know. if he was saying what ziegler was saying he was saying that he was the greatest thing that ever happened to him, no molestation, why didn't they put him on the stand? >> absolutely. the thing that comes down to this, in the michael jackson trial, 40-year-old men don't have sle

talking to a filmmaker named jonathan ziegler.t to talk about the interview and what he discovered during his interview. >> this is an interview he gave to an fbi trained investigator, former pless vepolice investigator, saying mike mccreary is lying this is powerful and proactively coming from a 24-year-old married sergeant in the marine corps at this time, coming out and saying, wait a minute. i'm not saying nothing happened in the shower. i'm saying had we known that on september 29, 2007, people would have said, wait a minute, a rush to judgment. >> wow. >> why is he yelling? >> speak so quickly. i say that as someone who speaks quickly. certainly energetic. the question to jeffrey fritz this morning. attorney for a young man known as sandusky victim number four. and nice to have you back talking with us. so you heard that clip, mr. ziegler says he has exculpatory information from the second victim, who never testified. what do you make of that display? >> good morning, soledad. the -- you know, the issue here, let's look at t

john: i want to play a very brief portion of the interview that was done with ziegler.ant to sow what nbc paid for. here sandusky is taking the opportunity to push back against one of the main witnesses mike mcqueary and what he might have heard in the locker room: john: now, we can shake our heads at this yeah, he was fooling around with a kid no the shower. did nbc news err in allowing a convicted child rapist to have this kind of platform on national television or in their defense, this guy is arguably the most famous person to ever go in jail for this in america was it right and credible to do? >> it was whatever the opposite of credible is. i wish i could use a word that would expression the a sidic nature of what they did to their own resultation airing this have view. i don't fault bob costas. jerry sandusky was on trial at that point. he was asked a series of tough questions. that's an interview that you do. you don't do an interview by a third party with a convicted child rapist. you have to think about what a parallel to this would be, i mean would b.e.t. air

. >> filmmaker, john ziegler is trying to prove that head coach, joe paterno, had no part in the scandal and should not have been forced out of the school in disgrace. you can see more of the interview with ziegler and hear more from sandusky coming up on the "today" show at 7:30. >> it is 5:19. hundreds of people gathered at a church in santa rosa to remember a teenage boy hit and killed in an accident at a racetrack. we told you about it. his mother told about her sports loving 14-year-old son and wished all the attention could have been for something different. >> it was so surreal. you couldn't help but wonder what marcus would have thought about all of this, specially being on sports center. >> how heartbreak can for that mother. he was hit by his cousin who spun out of control in a race car during a warmup lap. a 68-year-old man was also killed in that accident. >>> 5:20. a new tribute for the victims of a deadly san bruno pipe explosion. the dedication took place at bethany church. 3 of the 8 people killed ntd blast were members of that church's congregation. community members pai

this guy done ziegler he's a documentary filmmaker out west. he attaches to big stories. he did it with sarah palin several years ago. he did it a little bit with steubenville rape case a couple of weeks ago. and he also did it with joe paterno story. his agenda, according to his website is very clear. he is trying to clear joe paterno's name. but, he's doing it this time with an interview with the jailhouse interview with jerry sandusky who we all know is a convicted child sex predator and the family is very upset at what he's doing. sources tell me that it's an interesting case because he actually had some paterno followers on twitter. he was raising some money to do a documentary to help exonerate joe paterno and the family has said look, we don't support this. we don't support using, you know, having jerry sandusky basically speak for joe paterno from jail and jerry sandusky is clearly not that credible at this point. >> sara, thanks for joining us. we want to bring in tom klein. he represents sandusky victim number five. he was present for

. >> filmmaker, john ziegler, says he is trying to prove that head coach, joe paterno, had no part in the scandal and should not have been forced out of the school in disgrace. >> you can hear more from sandusky many could go up on the "today" show at 7:30. >>> still ahead, tragedy at the airport. a little boy killed after he is crushed by a falling sign. we will tell you why a heartbroken family is waiting to break the news to his mother. >>> plus, an ac quit tall appealed. the murder case against amanda knox may no longer be a case closed after all. >>> we are expecting a verdict any time now in the appeal to the acquittal of american, amanda knox. italy's top criminal court is hearing arguments from prosecutors behind closed doors. knox and her ex-boyfriend were originally convicted of murder for the death of knox's roommate back in 2007. that conviction was overturned in 2011. prosecutors now want that ruling overturned. the court could decide to open a new trial in the case. >>> a southern california man is in the hospital with third-degree burns this morning after apparently lig

instead matt lauer shared with ziegler who talked to the former coach from jail.a. he is making an agenda called the framing of joe paterno. the late penn state head coach founded by an independent reader to help cover up sandusky's horrible crime. to his credit, matt lauer pressed about jerry sandusky's conviction. >> do you believe he was wrongly convicted? >> jerry sandusky already had his day in court. >> do you believe he was wrongly convicted? >> i have written about this at our website. i want to say that my focus has been on joe paterno. >> do you believe jerry sandusky is a pedophile and guilty of the things -- >> i have no doubt that jerry sandusky was guilty of m o

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. >> the filmmaker, john ziegler, says he's trying to fulfill disgraced penn state football coach joe paterno's dying wish. >> here's what i'm trying do. i'm trying get to the truth of this matter. joe paterno's dying wish was just find out what the truth was. no one has done that for joe paterno -- >> but joe paterno, as you know -- >> i'm trying to do that, and the only way to do that is to talk to the central figure in the story, and that is jerry sandusky. and when there is corroborating evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says, with regards to penn state and joe paterno's lack of culpability, i will use that to make a case this was a rush to judgment. >> in the interview, sandusky says he doesn't know if paterno suspected abuse. penn state has blasted sandusky and the release of the audio tapes. sanduskisy appealing his 30-year sentence. >>> authorities have linked the murder of colorado's prison chief to a shoot-out in texas. the gun found from evan ebel is the same used to kill him. ebel was an ex-con and a member of the white supremacist prison gang. investigators

>> ziegler is a creature of the right. like rick santorum who don't believe the accusations. question the report that brought all of this together and said that paterno, he didn't do anything. and i don't know what it's about but it's very strange to me from this family values, protecting children. >> his main crusade as you pointed out are joe paterno was framed for all of this. journalists have looked at it. independent reports have looked at it. joe paterno, while he had a stellar career and did a lot of great things he screwed up on this. he didn't do the right thing. you can't try to cover that up. >> bill: no. he is as bad as the catholic bishops and cardinals in some cases who were told that you've got priests here who are also raping little boys and they looked the other way or they move them out of harm's way or didn't alert authorities and joe paterno was told this about jerry sandusky. he did not alert authorities. no matter what his great football career was he failed. at this. and jerry sandusky got caught and nab and got convicted. now we put him on "the today s

john ziegler appreciate your time. >> thank you, matt. >>> let's get a check of the weather now fromtt, thank you so much. as we look at the week ahead, cooler weather here in the east but temperatures will eventually start to cool down as you can see we're looking at snow in parts of the east, below normal temperatures, really the eastern two-thirds of the country above normal temperatures out west as we enter the midweek period temperatures warm up out west but below normal from the great lakes and southeast. temperatures normalize in the mid section of the country. the warmth spreads but we have the >>> good monday morning. 7:39. beautiful san francisco. mostly cloudy. that's the story today. temperatures are going to be a touch cooler because of the limited sunshine. 69 on the way for livermore. 64, fremont, 62, oak town today. 60 degrees in san francisco. starting tomorrow, the jetstream takes a significant drop. that's going to keep an unsettled pattern in place tuesday through sunday with slight shower chances each and every day all the way through easter sunday. >> the last p