entire approach to it, never asked about what president zielinski said about her. let's not providing her with the full information of the tweet. that's how we roll through all this. why is president trump putting out information inviting that, it's because an shift only want the american public to have 3 percent of the information. and connect us that are actually connected to write the world news great disparity. and donna one. i'm staying this right now, and go back and read her deposition. we it's been seven and 89 hours, president trump is right. want to defend himself to ensure that the other 97 percent of the surrogates out there. because adam schiff is only going to tell the market public 3 percent. >> reporter. [inaudible conversation] >> impeachment about withholding eight. that's what i thought it was are all about. i find it pretty interesting that we heard from somebody is an interagency today the recommended that we give ukraine legal aid and we are to see that, she said even in the previous administration. this is what they wanted okay. and congress,

then we had zielinski directed in 2019 of april. now zielinski defeated the previous president. there's no level off between those two. then in may 20, 2019. my question we talk about giuliani, do we know officials within the zielinski regime actually met with? i know two, one of the advisors. we also know of the former italian general we already established here, was correct. he served under zielinski for a couple of months until april, august. there parliament basically out. >> yes. >> something giuliani is trying to influence the zielinski regime, was a guy who work under the previous regime, is he the right guy to do it? >> -- >> did he have much credibility with the current regime text. >> i don't think so. >> do you know if any other ukrainians that mr. giuliani was meeting with that was part of the zielinski regime? >> i would have already left by then. >> even with the administration to come from zielinski once the election, there was a two month period of preparing to be installed as president. even during that time, were you aware of any? >> there is one of the oligarc

those efforts to talk to zielinski picked up speed in september.et him in kiev and asked for an interrue and he agreed in principal. our teams prepared for the lo gisices of taping an interview. on september 19th "the washington post" reported the whistleblower's complaint revolved around ukraine. shortly thereafter the ukraine's pulled the plug on the planning. of course, none of us were aware of a secret campaign to pressure him nor he announced an investigation into biden or his son on gps. we'll hope to be able to bring you an interview with him at some point. >>> let me bring back richard, neil, and ronna. where do we stand in your view with the impeachment? the extraordinary thing it seems to me you have five or six senior officials who have pretty much laid out a quid pro quo, that there was pressure on ukraine, and the kwid was the military aide. the quo was announce publicly that there was an investigation into bidens. where does that leave us? >> i think we're on track for the house to impeach president trump. i think it's significant pol

ally but is it a problem to have zielinski at the white house?> it certainly won't answer the questions about what happened and why pressure was put on him and whether or not it's going to lead to the impeachment of president trump. i think, look. some good could come out of this. it is still true there is a shooting war going on on there, that russian operatives are there threatening the independence of a sovereign nation that is an ally of the u.s. there could be something that comes out of this that is actually not bad if the prestige of the white house, of the presidency and of the u.s. government is genuinely conveyed, along with being, frankly, the milled aid at the heart of all of this. >> let's look ahead to the upcoming week. most of the house is back in district but tomorrow four witnesses are scheduled to appear before the three committees. john eisenberg, michael ellis, both lawyers with the national security council and mick mulvaney says he will not show. one from the energy depth. eisenberg told him not to discuss the call between

between president trump and zielinski. when was the first time that you saw the call record for this phone call. spinning when it was released publicly at the end of september i believe. >> prior to reading a call record, were you aware that president trump had specifically made reference to you in the call. >> no. >> what was your reaction to learning that. >> i was shocked. absolutely shocked and devastated frankly. >> we mean by devastated. >> i was shocked and devastated that i was featured in a phone call between two heads of states in such a manner. where president trump said that it was bad news to another world leader. nobody going through something. so it was a terrible moment. a person who saw me actually reading the transcript said that the color drained from my face. i say it even had a physical reaction. i say even now, but whoever's. >> that went out upsetting you is it too much for my like to show you the excerpts from the call in the first one president trump says the former ambassador from the united state

and gave aid to ukraine without zielinski opening an investigation into joe and hunter biden. the 18 page memo concludes that blish an impeachabled does n offense. the whistle-blower at the center of the impeachment inquiry is now the subject of a whistle-blower complaint. in a letter to the intelligence community inspector general, washington law firm says their client believes the whistle-blower is soliciting illicit funds on the internet to pay for legal bills. the complaint says the donations clearly constitute gifts to a current intelligence official that may be restricted because of the employee's official position. the complaint asks the ig to investigate each an end every donation to determine his from a prohibited source or if a foreign citizen or agent of the foreign government made gifts to this intelligence official. 6,000 people have so far donated. some $227,000 to the whistle-blowers go find me campaign. >> the acting chief of staff here at the white house, mick book mulvaney, decided he will not go to court to fight his subpoena from the house committees invest

the president, i want nothing, i want no quid pro quo, i want zielinski to do the right thing. want to do what he ran on, why did you put that statement in your opening states? i think you said you couldn't fit it in, is that right? we might be here for 46 minutes. >> it wasn't purposeful. >> wasn't purposeful, could not fit it in a 23 page opener? >> tucker: smart question, actually, why wasn't the fact and this is not a small point, it's the white which they impeachment hanks, why was that not included in the sondland's opening statement? we don't know. here's one possible explanation, it was probably drafted by his legal team and all four of the attorneys it turns out as we checked our democratic donors. the man seated next to gordon sondland today during the hearing, he gave over 130,000 to democrats over the years, also represented and formats to help the rush or russia hoax. thinking more about the clients personal interests in this case, impeach number one across his mind? we don't know, it doesn't seem plausible. we should point out something, the price completely overl

tell zielinski to do the right thing.ays this is the final word on the president of the united states. "i want nothing." thank you. have a good time. vonnie: president trump speaking to reporters moment ago outside the white house. to tour and apple manufacturing plant. interesting that he brought out the transcript of what had just happened. he had just been watching it on tv and said he turned off the tv at the point where ambassador sondland responded to the question of what do you want with "i want nothing, i want no quid pro quo, tell the president of ukraine to do the right thing." we are not getting tone of voice year, we are just getting words. this is the final word, the president of the united states said. the president also made it clear that gordon sondland came in late to his campaign and he was with other candidates and he came in late. he said he is not a man i know well. that is president trump on his way to austin, texas. we will be returning to the impeachment hearings and much much more in a few moments

and a potential meeting between the 2 presidents the president of the united states and president zielinski of ukraine that both of those things were conditioned on ukraine's announcement of an investigation into 2016 election meddling and into hunter biden joe biden's son and he also pointed to one more fact and i think that this was very important he said that that many information pieces are still missing but that it is the white house and the trump administration that is preventing witnesses from testifying testifying telling them that they should defy subpoena and he said that that could be considered as a novel or impeachable offense as obstruction of congress so a very significant statement here a very significant statement indeed in our i understand that while your reporting we're hearing of course from a key witnesses most notably bill taylor can you tell us all a bit more about him who is he. bill taylor is a very respected top diplomat he's served under republican and democratic administrations for 50 years and he's known for his very good memory for it he's taking speaking alway

concerned that anything illegal was discussed during the call between president trump and vladimir zielinski. we wanted to hear what he . >> present tr that he may read the c his cotion with the president on my television. >>> former national security advisor john bolton has been asked to testify about the president's ukraine policies. >> there still waiting for one more day for dungeness crab season to start according to the department of california fish and wildlife. crab traps are not allowed in ocean waters until tomorrow. a break in the crab season started months earlier in april. industry leaders are working closer with groups to negotiate better environment practices. let's see how wall street is doing as they finish up the week. the dollars finishing up strong, up 250 points. >> is almost time to change the clocks. they spring forward sunday and fallback. daylight savings time ends at 2100 to give us back in extra hour in the middle of the night. research shows some people don't gain an hour of sleep. the clinical review of sleep else is the change in daylight throughout the week tak

his client to issue this ult merit um regarding the military aid to a representative of president zielinski over in ukraine. giuliani denies that. others who attended the meeting said the issue of aid was not brought up. all of these guys lack credibility. how do you decide who is telling the truth? >>. >> i think at this point it is hard to parse this out. but let's just take the if true scenario, if this is true, we're getting further and further away from the claim that this is some kind of official foreign policy, one of the defenses that's been floated by the president. obviously giuliani's private lawyer was engaging in this. but also an associate of giuliani doing a shakedown on the side. it's hard to see anything other than a personal interest being facilitated here. the other important thing here, this is extending the time line even wider than we previously knew. i think this is part of the aren't president is trying to keep the focus on just the phone call, as if there was nothing happening before or after. that takes away a lot of the context. where this is rel varnt, is that it

, the ukrainian president and zielinski made reference to three things the president asked for. that's actually fairly critical, because part of the narrative on the republican side is that they didn't understand that there was a quid pro quo and this was a request but is part of the sort of give and take of heads of ate. holmes conveyed it differently. holmes suggested zielinski was saying i need to deal with this, which is a deliverable language that we heard from other witnesses. that is a good point for the democrats, a very significant one. >> on that question, then, kim, is holmes' testimony enough to tie the president to this suggestion about the deliver rawable? >> it's difficult that there was a campaign by rudy guiliani to former corrupt prosecutors, and talk about corruption to undermine the ukrainian's objective to enforce or strengthen democracy in ukraine and that narrative actually operated for the benefit of vladimir putin, so the president, i think, the story here is the president was acting against the interest of the united states. the question, i think, being

. >> did president zielinski indicate he was going to keep him on? amb. yovanovich: he indicated he was not going to keep him on. >> you testified earlier that he had a reputation of being corrupt? amb. yovanovich: that is right. secretary toputy you about your future as ambassador to ukraine? amb. yovanovich: he said i needed to leave. >> what did he say? amb. yovanovich: there was a lot of back and forth but ultimately he said the words that every foreign service officer understands -- the president has lost confidence in you. that was a terrible thing to hear. and i said well, i guess i have to go then. but no real reason was offered as to why i had to leave and why it was eating done in such a manner. >> did you have any indication that the state department had lost confidence in you? amb. yovanovich: no. >> were you provided any reason why the president lost confidence in you? amb. yovanovich: no. >> you testified in your deposition that you were told at some point that secretary pompeo had tried to protect you but that he was no longer able to do th

when ukrainian president zielinski denies anything improper happened on the phone call, the democrats or in the ukraine election meddling and hunter biden's position on the board, the democrats labelled them conspiracy theorists. when the democrats cannot get traction for the allegations of quid pro quo, they move the goalposts and accuse they move the goalposts and accuse the president of extortion then bribery and at last resort obstruction ofjustice. the american people sent us to washington to solve problems, not to wage scorched earth little warfare against the other party. this impeachment is not helping the american people, it is not a legitimate use of taxpayer dollars, and it is definitely not improving our national security. finally, the democrats' fake outrage that president trump used his own channel to each with the ukraine, i remind my friends on the other side of the ir that our first president, george washington, directed his own diplomatic channel to secure a treaty with great britain. if my democratic colleagues were around in 1794, they would probably want to impeac

expert who sat in on that july 25th phone call between president trump and his counterpart president zielinski. it wraps up with the president's top adviser fiona hill. smack dab in between is a hearing that will have lawmakers and pundits and even the president himself glued to their screens. that is because on wednesday we will hear from the trump downer and eu ambassador who recently revised his closed door testimony to admit there was a quid pro quo. sundland has been in conversations with everyone from president trump to ukraine's president is emerging as a key player in the inquiry. we will dive into all of that in a moment. first, as the president says he would consider testifying before congress in this impeachment hearing, it turns out his answers in the russia investigation led by robert mueller are drawing new scrutiny today. cnn has learned that the house is now investigating whether the president lied to the special counsel. the russia probe ended 8 months ago, robert mueller testified 4 months ago. why is this coming up now? >> i'll tell you, why because the house democrats, they

office expressing concern about the call president trump made the ukrainian leader one of your salute zielinskigood news could be thursday if he shows up. is investigators want to hear from former national security advisor, john bull and is the turn state their client may not up here lessee his opinion. mass intelligence committee has issued subpoenas for some witnesses on the spot. after they arrived in the capital. that compels her testimony after the white house is trying to keep officials from speaking to lawmakers or at the very least, curb are kept test her name. ten to witnesses, and the acquirer is shrinking and that means a house investigators could begin to release transcripts to the public. that would set the stage for hearings and potentially the judiciary committee to write articles of impeachment. but that's at least a month away and if not longer. liz,. [speaking in native tongue] liz: chad just said it, public impeachment hearing possibly the month. we don't know when no. impeachment is going to be moving the inquiry into the public of court for the public opinion for the reacti

everyone knows about july 25th, that was when trump talked to zielins zielinski. it goes back to february when there were concerns about giuliani's role here and the fact that the concerns came from ukraine, how significant is this? >> it's incredibly significant. because you have a foreign country being asked to do donald trump's political dirty work, and they were uncomfortable with it, and she was clearly uncomfortable with it. and the big picture here, if you take a step back, the big picture here is that you see a foreign policy that has been hijacked by the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, trying to get people in ukraine to dig up dirt on joe and hunter biden. and peddling these kind of conspiracy theories that have been debunked over and over again. and a president who is willing to dump his ambassador, throw her under the bus. a secretary of state who was speaken to three times by mr. mckinley, who worked directly for him. saying, can you give her some support here. and pompeo did not, even when he knew that what they were trying to do was obv

break, i think there is some there were there when it comes to ukraine and quid pro quo and the zielinskiwe just lived through two years of russia in collusion and robert mueller and it ended up a dud, a lot of the country has checked out. it's not the first part of the apple, it's the second and the apple taste stale. >> shannon: this comes across as the horowitz report, who knows how that will impact this whole thing? in real clear politics there is a tweet, it's going to be lit when mcconnell scheduled the impeachment trial that all senators are required to attend silently. if you impeachment happens it goes to the senate and those folks are running for president. i'm sure mcconnell will be happy to pull them off the campaign trail. >> is ultimately pretty simple. democrats and 40 to 50% of the independents take the position that an impeachable offense has been committed by a president a thought from the beginning deserved impeachment and most if not all the republicans take the opposite position. with everything that has been leaked and i agree, there is much needs to be discussed, in

. >> he said i attended the inauguration of president zielinski, and the members of the delegation provided president trump a debriefing. that's not really accurate, because you weren't in that meeting, or you? >> we just have a note there that that meeting occurred without you. you said that you are responsible for coordinating the u.s. policy. >> ambassador volker? >> he does not. >> does anyone at dod report to you in response to your coordinating with the ukraine? >> at my level, that's deputy assistant -- i chair those meetings. >> do they seek your approval? >> that's coordinated by the nsc, correct. >> ms. williams, do you have any information that has testified as part of this impeachment inquiry, either in secret or in public, as either perjured themselves or lied to this committee? >> i have not read the other testimonies. >> do they have any evidence that they've purged themselves? >> i have not. >> lieutenant vindman, do you have evidence that anyone in this committee has perjured themselves or lied to the committee? >> not that i'm aware of. >> i yelled back. >> and q for yield

he had conversatio with zielinski -- zelensky where it never came up. want to ask, i heard all these comments about how amazing the day was. but there was nothing new. judy: the democrats have a different view of this. testimony and say there was linkage in those conversations, not just the phone call but otherwise. you also had ambassador taylor saying today that he had an aide who, after he testified in closed session, and age who told me him -- told him about trump referring to investigations. there are two different sides or interpretations but at this point, the judiciary committee will receive whatever comes out of this comttee, the intelligence committee, and you and other republicans today sent a letter to the leadership of the house. what are you asking for? rep. collins: we would like to they are goiif to do this, they need to bring it back to historical norms. that is what we are missing. there is no substance. it is funny you bring up the only thing they brought that was new was a overheard hearsay phone call. if there was nothing more in th

expert who sat in on that july 25th phone call between president trump and his counterpart president zielinskiwraps up with the president's top adviser fiona hill. smack dab in between is a hearing that will have lawmakers and pundits and even the president himself glued to their screens. that

>> the mistake he told me was earlier he had told, presumably president zielinski and mr.rk that what was necessary for the white house meeting was the pursuit of these investigations. he said he recognized that that was a mistake. it's not just the white house meeting that was dependent on the investigations, he said it was no everything. it included the security assistance. >> so it's not just a white house meeting it's also the security assistance. so even though president trump was saying repeatedly that there was no quid pro quo ambassador sondland read late to you that the fact of the matter with a white house meeting in the security assistance were conditioned on the announcement, is that your understand? is because that's my understanding. >> you referenced a television interview and a desire for president trump to put zelensky in a public box, which you also have." was that in your notes? >> it was in my notes. >> what did you understand that the mean, to put zelensky in a public box? >> i understood that to mean that president trump, through ambassador sondland,

white house released that rough call transcript between president trump and ukrainian president zielinskiuo burger. >> if you're looking for a circumstance where the president of the united states was threatening the ukraine can cutting off aide unless they investigated his political opponent, you would be very disappointed. that does not exist. >> then in october, graham told axios that other evidence beyond the rough transcript might change his mind. >> if you could show me that trump actually was engaging in a quid pro quo outside the phone call, that would be very disturbing? . >> we now have reams of evidence. testimony from multiple trump administration diplomats and national security officials current and former suggesting that outside that phone call ambassador gordon sonland, rudy giuliani, acting white house chief of staff all were pushing ukraine to investigate the bidens if they wanted that aide in that white house meeting. now the judiciary committee chairman has a different and brand new take. >> what i can tell you about the trump policy toward the ukraine, it was incoheren

. >> in your opinion, your interactions with president zielinski, is he a straight shooter or is he a liar? >> he impressed me greatly and that's why wanted to get he and president trump together as soon as possible. >> when he makes express statements, you tend to believe them. >> with my limited interaction with him, he seemed honorable. >> thank you, mr. ambassador. i yield back. >> mr. castro. >> good afternoon, ambassador. welcome. others close to president trump have made it clear that investigations were in fact part of a condition for u.s. assistance to ukraine, including ridge giuliani and mick mulvaney, the acting chief of staff. ambassador sondland, at a press conference on october 17, acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney discussed his belief that it's entirely appropriate to politicize u.s. foreign policy. ambassador, how often did you speak or meet with mr. mulvaney? >> again, based on my lack of records, i'm going by a bad memory. >> based on your memory. >> i think i had one formal meeting with mr. mulvaney and had nothing to do with ukraine. it was completel

the absolutely clear statement from ambassador sondland, he acknowledged telling one of president zielinski'sin warsaw that resumption of us aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided the anti—corruption until ukraine provided the anti—corru ption statement. that public anti—corruption anti—corru ption statement. that public anti—corru ption statement anti—corru ption statement. that public anti—corruption statement as we hear about in the statement from kurt volker goes backwards and forwards and rudy giuliani is insisting the anti—corru ption statement must have mention of the company that hunter biden was involved with. it looks like there was a relationship between holding up was a relationship between holding up the aid and getting that statement. something donald trump has repeatedly denied. statement. something donald trump has repeatedly deniedli statement. something donald trump has repeatedly denied. ijust want to redo something from the transcript of kurt volker. he was asked, rudy giuliani was the problem? the asked, rudy giuliani was the problem ? the negative asked, rudy

did you talk to want to listen to thisjuly the 25th phone call between donald trump and president zielinskiand then someone in the intelligence community and he would not know who that was. republicans thought that he talked to the original whistle—blower, but that questioning was not allowed that might reveal who the whistle—blower was. vindman sang the whistle—blower was protected by federal law. but republicans suggesting that vindman may have been the source within the white house. so we are going to hear from kurt volker, with had a lot in the programme and we knew that he was deeply involved in ukraine. he knew a lot about what was happening and was deeply involved in the fight against corruption over there but he has got entangled in this and he is one of the so—called three amigos so along with the ambassador to the eu gordon sondland and rick perry, the energy secretary, those three are supposed to have been in charge of this second diplomatic channel. that is right and we know from testimony from kurt volker behind closed doors that he had concerns about this informal channel of r

her reaction, emotionally and physically when she read the call record between president trump and zielinskiukraine. here's the -- the exchange. [video clip] you test up -- >> you testified that you had left before the time of the call . when was the first time you saw the call record for this phone call? >> when it was released publicly at the end of september. >> prior to reading that call record, were you aware that president trump may reference to you and that call? >> no. >> what was your reaction to learning that? >> i was shocked. absolutely shocked. and devastated, frankly. >> what you mean by devastated? devastatedocked and that i would feature in a phone call between two heads of state in such a manner, where president trump said i was bad news to another world leader and i would be going through some things. moment. terrible a person who saw me reading the transcript said that the color drained from my face, i think i had a physical reaction. now, words fail me. without upsetting you too much, i would like to show you the excerpts from the call. the first, where president trump sa

be in on this because the quote, will you do me a favor, unquote, that trump asked of president zielinski seems to have kicked out this argument. and we have to find out exactly what the issue is. i don't think anybody knows about this. the fact is ukrainians got the aid, they have not been investigating anything about the bidens, so there is not a quid pro quo. we have learned a lot of latin lately, haven't we? on the other hand, there may be something that comes out. i will also say that an ambassador of the united states of america, anywhere overseas is the personal representative of the president in that country. ambassador yovanovitch said that in her testimony. she said she was the personal representative of president trump in ukraine. now, if the president is not happy with what his personal representative is or is not doing, i think the president has every reason to fire the ambassador and to appoint somebody new. i would point out that the day that president obama was sworn into office, all of bush's ambassadors were fired as of that day, including mark green, former congressman

ocmister trump almost every day says that it's a perfect wall and mister zielinski repeated many times there were no pressure for him. so what is the possible reaction for ukraine in this process to save groups bipartisan relationships for the soviet partners and a little question about prediction, what could possibly go wrong for mark can ukraine become again with or without an influencer in domestic politics -mark. >> it's a great question, what can go wrong? many things. i suspect lots of us havea view on this question . let me just offer a few thoughts at random. what we learn just in the past couple of weeks suggests that there is an important piece of what we call the back story that is president trumps the antipathy toward ukraine that was born of the struggles in 2016 aided and abetted by some of his aides such as his former campaign de manager paul manafort, trying to ship the blame from russia to ukraine for efforts to undermine mister trumps campaign. and as a result of this, ukraine's new president has found himself in an almost impossible situation. the zombie the white ho

pompeo also okayed a plan to zielinski make a commitment to trump in person to unlock the logjam betweenhe two countries. that is new reporting this morning from michael schmidt. 's article posted at about 8:21 a.m. eastern. just two paragraphs. mr. sondland informed mr. pompeo in mid august about a draft statement that mr. sondland and another american diplomat had worked on with the ukrainians that they hoped would persuade mr. trump to grant ukraine's new president the oval office meeting he was seeking. later that month mr. sondland discuss with mike pompeo the disc -- the possibility of pushing the ukrainian president to pledge during a planned meeting with trump in warsaw that he would take the steps being sought by trump as a way to break that logjam. mr. pompeo expressed his approval of the plan but mr. trump later canceled his trip to poland. expect more questions today to gordon sondland about those aspects of the timeline and who knew what and when. greg in south carolina, republican. you are next. are you with us this morning? caller: good morning. thank you for taking michae

i think president zielinski -- zelensky did as well. he has been very clear in saying that he felt no pressure. favor,erpreted it as a but the two speaking to each other did not. it was your interpretation. is that fair? lt. col. vindman: the call consistent with the july 10 meeting and the reporting going on including the president's personal attorney made it clear that this was not simply a request. >> that is not true. it is not clear at all. and thet clear at all, two individuals talking to each other did not interpret it that way. i would like to discuss your reaction to the phone call and previous testimony. for brevity and clarity i will refer to the testimony on page 155, quoting you, "i did not know if it was a crime or anything of that nature. i thought it was wrong." i would like to key on the word ryan -- wrong, we will come back to that. "in my mind, did i consider it would be different implications, but it was not the basis of a criminal complaint. the new go back -- then you go back to ethical judgment. based onnot legal,

there are uncertain prospects for peace in eastern ukraine and questions about where zielinski is taking the nation. in the capital, ordinary citizens are more focused on their own pocketbook concerns. quote from the ukrainian foreign minister, seems there is no more interesting topic other than ukraine in the united states, but said ukraine was always proud of the support from both sides of congress and we would like to preserve the support. we need to solve the conflict in the east, and we do not need to be involved in the conflict on the other side of the break. that is reporting out of ukraine in "washington post." host: tracy in north carolina with the following text message. my mind has been changed with the possibility of guilt to not guilty with the colorful language and opinions offered. the fact that this case cleared this president, i wonder how many riots and protests will come after the report comes out. from new york, janet, you're next. you're still unsure. is that correct? actually, i am unsure whether the democrats should continue on with impeachment, just because i do n

and russia and europe is an absolutely vital thing in our foreign policy and the reason that the zielinski call is so tragic for us is that as it confirmed who's lying about americans don't trust them. their transactional they don't believe those things they advocate which is transparency and human rights and freedom of speech and expression. i think we can't just go back to the way it was but i think we strengthened some of the things we're doing and add a few new wrinkles to it as well. >> i like to know if you think there's a solution to the ignorance in our educational system.the ignorance of a lot of people to live in rural america in the educational system that is not bringing a good system where people actually can dissect and see the truth, what's true and what's false in the second question is, do you think that breaking up things like facebook will help in any way? >> really quickly, one thing that i would like to see in a perfect world is sort of basic media studies. media literacy being taught in school like elementary and secondary school the same way you teach civics but i ho

one week after that donald trump would have the infamous july 25 phone call with president zielinski. call, thet car -- president complained that the relationship had not been reciprocal. thanked the president and said that they were ready to purchase javelins, and antitank deterrent. trump's response, i would like to do us a favor. trump requested that zelensky investigate the crowdstrike conspiracy theory and look into the bidens. neither of these investigations was in the u.s. national interest, and neither was part of the official preparatory material for the call. both, however, were in donald trump's personal interest and in the interest of his reelection campaign. ukrainian president about both dance, because sondland and others have been pressing about investigations into the 2016 election, and the bidens. multiple call individuals were concerned -- report it.rted the white house would take the step to move it to a server exclusively reserved for the most sensitive intelligence matters. in the weeks that followed, ambassador taylor learned more facts about a scheme that was to

there are uncertain prospects for peace in eastern ukraine and questions about where zielinski is takinghe nation. in the capital, ordinary citizens are more focused on their own pocketbook concerns. quote from the ukrainian foreign minister, seems there is no more interesting topic other than ukraine in the united states, but said ukraine was always proud of the support from both sides of congress and we would like to preserve the support. we need to solve the conflict in the east, and we do not need to be involved in the conflict on the other side of the break. that is reporting out of ukraine in "washington post." host: tracy in north carolina with the following text message. my mind has been changed with the possibility of guilt to not guilty with the colorful language and opinions offered. the fact that this case cleared this president, i wonder how many riots and protests will come after the report comes out. from new york, janet, you're next. you're still unsure. is that correct? actually, i am unsure whether the democrats should continue on with impeachment, just because i do not

to have a tough road ahead to convince him that it is important enough to schedule a meeting with zielinski. that was the take away. that is what i referred to repeatedly whenever it became relevant. i will remind you that throughout this time, we were trying to find a formula, things we could do with ukrainians that will convince the president they were worth talking to. >> may be, mr. holmes, the take away was he thought it was no big deal because he already knew. he didn't remember because we already had the transcript. he didn't remember -- we had the trump-zelensky transcat for two -- transcript for two months. although you are bringing this conversation up. whenever there's a talk about ukraine, you recall this conversation. maybe there was the transcript -- the call happened on july 25. the transcript has been out for two months. the ambassador thought this is nothing new. last week, you come forward with this new information. there is nothing new in their -- in there. maybe that is the reason the first witness did not bring it up. they had to have something. you are their closing wi

he smeared you on a phone call with president zielinski on july 25. he is smearing you right now when you are testifying. ambassador johannes, are the president's smear -- ambassador ivanka of it, party president -- yovanovitch, are the smears going to stop you? ms. yovanovitch: i will continue with your work. rep. swalwell my work. rep. swalwell: thank you. i yield back. rep. schiff: murr. hurd. [microphone feedback] rep. hurd: i will move over here. years, six senior service awards, five state department superior honor awards, presidential distinguished service award, and the secretary diplomacy and human rights award. you are tough as nails, and you are smart as hell, and you are a great example of what our ambassadors should be like. you are an honor to your family, you are an honor to the foreign service, you are an honor to this country, and i thank you for all that you have done and will continue to do on behalf of your country. ms. yovanovitch: thank you. rep. hurd: i am nervous about what i am about to do. i want to do a five-year history of

they are being very careful because they still need is now going forward and right now president zielinskihest levels so supports and yet the highest levels so this does not end with the lifting of the security assistance hall. ukraine still needs us and they are still fighting a war to this very day. and they got caught. that is why it was finally lifted. thank you and good morning. yesterday we heard testimony from the european union. testified president trump wanted ukraine to announce the investigations into the bidens and the 2016 elections because they would benefit him politically and to use the average of the white house meaning the assistance to pressure first like to do so. you testify that in mid june, ambassador sunderland told you he was in charge of ukraine policy. is that right? yes. or did he tell your butcher in charge of the policy? he said it was the president. —— who did he tell you put you in charge? was there authority over this from the president? we understood he had been told to work with rudy giuliani. is this correct contact and knowledge of the president's knowl