after ziggy.rop ziggy off there, how would that affect you and the work you need to do? yeah, obviously in the middle of march everything sort of turned on its head and normal went out of the window. my own specialty became quite quiet, but obviously other specialties such as infectious diseases and icu had a massive amount of work to do. i have worked with them for the past eight weeks. without naomi i couldn't have done that. as a health care worker not only have you got the risk of contracting the illness, but the biggest worry is transmitting the owners to others. so naomi overnight changed at the entrance to the canine centre so that i can now safely deliver ziggy there knowing that i am not going to transmit coronavirus to anyone else. happily i've stayed very well, but you can have coronavirus and be asymptomatic, so that was a big worry for me all along. naomi, did you set more —— set up this place when you were 21? yes, ten years ago now. so go on, in normaltimes, what was the motivation?