and now i'm joined by the zill sherman, that she is the daughter of john she'd sherman, she joins me now from los angeles. it's good to have you in the program. i appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. i just want to ask you, are you in contact at all with your father? now? i know unfortunately i can't talk to my father anymore. in the 1st year when they kidnapped him, i was still allowed to talk to my dad, but it was not out of human reasons because they wanted my dad to talk to me. it was to put pressure on me to provide a false evidence for their court hearings. they wanted me to write a letter to write that made out as a terrorist leader, all of those things. and they wanted to exit on my computer and of course be refused. since then i'm not going on. and you, so have you been given a reason and they told you why you or you can't speak with your father? no, i mean have they given a reason? yeah, as i, as i said, we did not cooperate with them. they were planning to, they were planning to start short trials the next year and to portray my dad as a criminal as a terrorist.