with so much to do, there is no zimbabwe you can resist. >> stephen: you're welcome, bobby.e right back. ( cheers and applause ). >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you. my guest tonight is an acclaimed actor, best known for playing hawkeye on "mash." i'll ask him why he didn't reprize his role in "the avengers." please with with with wit welco. hey, alan, nice to see you. thanks so much for coming on. i am a huge fan and deeply disturbed by your entire career. >> oh, is that what it it? oh, my gosh. >> stephen: yes. >> i'm sorry. >> stephen: you are a famous liberal. >> i think independently, and-- and thinking it through carefully and weighing everything, i come down on the democratic side. >> stephen: really? why don't you stop thinking and start feeling. >> well, that would be a good way to do it. >> stephen: are you against feeling? you're an actor. actor's feel. >> that's true. many times we do. ( laughter ). >> stephen: people-- people want to feel so badly they go, like, to the theater or they go to the movies and they pay money to see people like you feel so

coming from zimbabwe, he has seen at hyper-inflation close- up. his job provides a contrast. >> i work for the central bank in zimbabwe. i am more of a regulator. i'm in commerzbank which is regulated by the european central bank and the bundes bank, so i'm now getting to see the other side of the coin. >> the financial institution african team operates a network spanning 50 african states offering services to financial institutions and banks there. investors are closely watching every sector in africa from energy to infrastructure. with his unique experience, he has provided his german colleagues with valuable insights into such areas as banks and investment risks in zimbabwe. he understands the imponderables of doing business in africa. it has also witnessed firsthand how the global financial crisis has impacted african countries and their banks. rarely 200 meters from his office building, he comes across evidence of the anger over global financial policies. we asked the economist what he thinks about the occupy movement. >> i think they have ev

with so much to do, there is no zimbabwe you can resist. >> stephen: you're welcome, bobby.ach ] that's one of the best three-point turners i've ever seen. hey son! come on over here! coach t, it's an honor. well, have you thought about the future? maybe corolla or camry. well, my mom says i need to keep my mpg up. [ laughing ] course she does... we got number 34. highway. and we got 43 over there. city. go on, check it out! i'll tell you what, checkers, you've impressed me before in the past, and you're impressing me even more now. coach is impressed. you did a good job and i like your shoes. ( cheers and applause ). >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you. my guest tonight is an acclaimed actor, best known for playing hawkeye on "mash." i'll ask him why he didn't reprize his role in "the avengers." please with with with wit welco. hey, alan, nice to see you. thanks so much for coming on. i am a huge fan and deeply disturbed by your entire career. >> oh, is that what it it? oh, my gosh. >> stephen: yes. >> i'm sorry. >> stephen: you are a famous liberal. >> i think i

and they can be kicked out for human rights violations as zimbabwe was, for example. they can also apply to be admitted. >> she played a behind-the- scenes role in seth africa, did she not? >> -- south africa, did she not? >> she did. i had conversations with the former prime minister of canada who was involved in the actions taken to get rid of the apartheid and all of the economic sanctions, and there were moments when it seemed the commonwealth would split up because of it and there was disagreement and the queen deftly worked behind the scenes applying -- she got them together and they kind of head and delegate -- elevated discussion. she never expressed her opinion. >> she does not. >> no, but she gets people to come together. she got margaret thatcher, who was opposed to giving rhodesia independence, for example, but she brought down the temperature. >> let me slip in a few things. she sleeps very well. she has no driver's license. she has no passport. she loves her horses, her dogs, her crossword puzzles. she is tolerant of others bad behavior. she does not lik

countries like zimbabwe have gone down, and this is an index that is created by an african and it was born in sudan and it's a businessman who made a lot of money from cell phone and putting cell phones in african countries without corruption which he sold to the kuwaiti government for a huge amount of money and he put his money back into this foundation and we don't measure the performance of democratic governments and it's left far too much to politicians making rhetorical speeches rather than what are they actually doing? >> can you measure improvements in health and education and this is what this foundation is doing and this is a very innovative example. >> i want to turn -- we can't have this extraordinary group of leaders without asking how much difference it makes or does it make a difference with president johnson to be a woman in the position? are there -- is there a material difference in what you're able to do and how you're perceived by the people who chose you? how do you -- how do you see that? you've had a chance over the years to think about this a lot. >> yes, it doe

countries like zimbabwe have gone down for reasons that are understandable. this is the index that has the merit of being created by an african. mo ibrahim is born in sudan, is a businessman, who made a lot of money putting in cell phones in african countries without corruption cell tell and put his money back into this foundation. we don't measure the performance of democratic governments very effectively. it's left far too much to politicians making rhetorical speeches rather than what are they actually doing. can you measure the delivery of services to people? can you measure improvements on health and education? and this is what this foundation is doing, which i think is a very innovative example. >> i want to turn -- we can't have this extraordinary group of leaders without asking the question about how much difference it makes or does it make a difference, president johnson-sirleaf, to be a woman in a position. are there -- is there a material difference in what you're able to do and how you're perceived by the people who chose you? how do you see that?

enough debt that they can print them surely without turning the entire global economy into one big zimbabwe you know that would solve any sort of the problems the thing about it is that we keep consistent and now it also does well i agree with you completely with your consistency consistently misdiagnosing the problem the problem is very simple the problem is accumulation of unsustainable rapid accumulation of doubt as the share of their chronometer activity and as the driver of economic activity for . the last twenty five plus years depending on the country you start with in italy it's over forty years now so as a result of that way into global not just european not just irish or american but global crisis if you look at their unfunded liabilities almost all of the countries around the world advanced economies right now in terms of their unfunded liabilities on top of their existence and there is an else and there's a lot of beyond this pertaining to the promises made to the people of those countries some of the security systems some of the care expenditure and so forth i deeply insolvent

and certainly the idea the idea that they're going to put in print more money you know that work zimbabwe would be a very prosperous place that it's going to make us all much for it's increasing the depths of this entire global recession maybe they're going to put us into the first global depression since the one nine hundred thirty s. the jobs numbers are phony every government statistic is phony i mean they you know during the clinton administration they defined out of existence so-called discouraged workers workers who are in art because they haven't been able to find a job or not actively looking for a job anymore so they say they're not unemployable of course they're still unemployed the actual employment figure is generally em's of shadowstats shows is of well over twenty percent which again harks back to the one nine hundred thirty s. so this is a very serious situation a lot of these jobs are by the way sort of parasitic jobs that are anti jobs they're government jobs or they're created with government stimulus projects so they actually subtract from the economy they don't add to

. >> and there is a contest in zimbabwe that sounds offensive but the winner is proud.en named this year's mr. ugly. he's now a local celebrity out there. he beat four other ugly men to land the title, 100s ndz cash and a night at a hotel. he says being ug sli not a curse. he believes it's a gift from god. he's proud of it. good for you. >> and in san francisco today a very odd news conference, you can compare to a couple prize fighters. in this case they're oblivious, not the owners, though. sheer wayne freedman. >> they billed it as a throw down between a couple dogs many people would be likely to throw away. but not john adler. and this is ugly, is it skin deep? >> this doesn't go deeper than that. and this might explain why there is international flavor bringing us mugly. a dog so famous he has a documentary crew. >> i don't make a big deal of it. >> i know. but i'm filming you guys making a documentary. >> he is something called a chinese crescent. and both passed adoption test. like every other dogs offering unconditional dog today, they were rescued. not bred. so

-- captured it in zimbabwe. >> i write this book not to highlight the suffering. it's about the lessons i learned in those 13 years. the most important lesson i learned is we never know what will happen to us in life, but it is how we react to what happens to us. you can survive anything. i'm proof of that. >> after so much suffering, i think a lot of people would harbor resentment and anger and hatred. you have decided to forgive your captors and your colleagues in the military who abandoned you and you move forward. >> that is what my book is about. life is about choices. i could still be a prisoner while i am sorry if i harbor those things i. have traveled the world and shared my story with people over the last several years and i've met so many people in the world that live in prisons created by themselves through hatred and bad relationships. that is a choice. you choose to be a prisoner and you can change that. >> how do we begin the process of changing >? some people feel things have happened in their lives and they really cannot let go. >> i understand tha

i really want zebra, but i can't get them right now because i need to get zebra from zimbabwe, and thelitical problems in that country, you just can't get something out of there. >> carr's brought in scientists to make sure he's importing the right species and to better understand the animals he already has. they've been tracking this gorongosa elephant herd with radio collars, and we went on a mission to replace a collar that had a dead battery. dr. cobus raath has come from south africa to help in the operation. first he prepares the tranquilizer. and how long will the elephant be out? >> we'll have 40 minutes, at least, before she starts to wake up. >> is that all you need? >> yeah, in a normal operation, that's more than enough to change a collar. >> raath flies in and fires the dart. then it's a matter of waiting until the dose knocks her out. while they wait, they drive off her calf so they won't have to knock it out too. the ground crew moves in, taking off the old collar, getting blood samples. understanding the health of these elephants will help ensure the success of a herd t

i really want zebra, but i can't get them right now because i need to get zebra from zimbabwe, and the political problems in that country, you just can't get something out of there. >> carr's brought in scientists to make sure he's importing the right species and to better understand the animals he already has. they've been tracking this gorongosa elephant herd with radio collars, and we went on a mission to replace a collar that had a dead battery. dr. cobus raath has come from south africa to help in the operation. first he prepares the tranquilizer. and how long will the elephant be out? >> we'll have 40 minutes, at least, before she starts to wake up. >> is that all you need? >> yeah, in a normal operation, that's more than enough to change a collar. >> raath flies in and fires the dart. then it's a matter of waiting until the dose knocks her out. while they wait, they drive off her calf so they won't have to knock it out too. the ground crew moves in, taking off the old collar, getting blood samples. understanding the health of these elephants will help ensure the success of a her

initiative so we are doing some work around the world now in kenya and we are developing some projects in zimbabwe and i have a big interest in doing stuff in different countries. we have done some work in the ukraine, once the russians got out of there, so we have been doing a lot of work in those areas too. >> we are looking at abandoned buildings and also looking at abandoned schools. we have over 20 close schools and some of them -- have a contract sitting on my desk to look over where we are going to start putting up houses on i think it's 42nd in silver spring's. it had been closed for five or six years. we will be able to put up 20 by 96-foot hoop houses at that site. so we are looking at every type, and any space that we can find that definitely these buildings. like i said that building that we are building now, a hatchery on tampa north avenue. we have dealt eight greenhouses on the 2.5-acre facility. i showed images of the lettuce there. we also have a farm at home's cemetery. they had old greenhouses there and we resurrected those and we have been growing there for for five years now a

we are developing projects in zimbabwe. and the big interest in doing stuff in different countries.one stuff in ukraine. we've been doing a lot of work and the syrians. >> abandoned buildings. >> we're looking at abandoned buildings. over 20 closed schools. i have a contract, were going to start putting up group houses, i think it's 42nd. that's been closed for about 56 years. will put up 20 by 96-foot group houses. we're looking at every type, any space that we can find, but definitely these buildings. a hatchery content the north of new. images of the illness there. so will have that for cemetery. old greenhouses. the resurrected those greenhouses'. keeping people out of the cemetery a little bit longer so that we get food. [laughter] [applause] >> to you have any ideas on things that we can do about biologically engineered food? >> well, you can stop buying it. >> right. >> i think that would be the first thing. one of the problems you have, you have to search for local levels. we're going to try, and we have done it at the outpost, plan a lot of locally grown food, but we need t

kenya, we are developing someoms projects in zimbabwe, south africa. different countries. we have do we have done some work in the ukraine. once the russians got out oft there.o so we have been doing a lot ofif work in those areas. [background noises] [inaudible question] >> we are looking at abandoned d buildings. we are alsoan looking at a bandl schools.erclos twenty schools. some of them have a lot of acreage. a contractor to look over wheree we will start putting up. about 40 -- i think it is 42nd it has been closed for about 56 years. so we will be able to put out 20 by 96-foot houses at that site on top.site so we are looking at every type th -- in the space that we can find. but definitely these buildings. like i said to my government, bu we're building up a hatchery tam content the north avenue. we have built a greenhouses onlg the two and a half acre facility i showed images. so we will also have the first town cemetery. they had greenhouses' there. gnh we resurrected as greenhouses. bve been growing there.for keeping people out of thatin ceme

the whole unraveling in zimbabwe. you cannot on the lam but you can own the lease on the land. i think the fundamental question is as you expect my first book is ultimately a relationship, the reason why we are so sensitive about the relationship in china particularly in africa is because we accept that there has to be an important and strong role of government. government has to be incentivize to do the right thing. unfortunately, for many any decades african natives have been in since device to do nothing it to abdicate the responsibility. i'd talk a little bit about this in my book and also my past books but government role to my mind is clear. the government has a responsibility provide public goods, education and health care, infrastructure and national security. think about the way live in the united states. health care is a bit of a contentious issue here i know but everything else you expect the government will provide those things. the second thing is government is supposed to regulate. you expect the government to regulate. they are supposed to police that behavior an

inaudible] economy tracked by the imf only three economies contracted and those were fee ji, congo, and zimbabwe. who cares, right? and the history otherwise is the history otherwise is that any particular year looked back, typical about 20% of economies report a negative gdp growth rate in any year on average. around 20%. only about one-third of economies are able to grow at about 5%. that's the spread in terms of the regard. in 2007, the -- we had three economies which reported a negative growth rate. and we had more than 50% of the world's economies growing at about 5%. this is very -- [inaudible] but the question was what cause exceptional? and it lead to the [inaudible] about history of economic development what causes it was two or three special factors. one was the fact these economies were catching up. after the poor performance in 1980s and 1990s. because of the poor performance with a lot of the blanks sheets had been cleaned up in the economy in terms of the macroeconomics from indonesia to russia paid down the debt and a lot of improvements in the mark cro exacts which is emerging ma

this is a bank of zimbabwe, $100 million note.e problems with inflation, but long term, we think the economic here is great. it's very different than in europe. >> in terms of the three picks you brought along, do you find they don't have much correlation to the markets, or what sort of time horizon are you citing on these particular stocks? are you actually is it epg into the market and adding to your positions? >> yes, we are. 3-d is a great example. if you can imaginage item, you can design it and build it. it's 3-2 printing, you can use it in prosthetics, in dental krounds, in hearing aid devices. all these things than small about have been to be fashioned. it can grown at 25% per year. it's got inown economy, its own needs that are out there. so it's a k350e that we think is fantastic, it can deliver good returns for investors over a long period of time. >> george, you mentioned of course the risk in the bond market, yet we continue to see outflowing and inflowing to bond funds. what will changes that dynamic, and does it con

those were fiji, condo, and zimbabwe. who cares. and the history, otherwise, the history otherwise is that in any particular look back about 20% of economists report a negative gdp growth rate in any year on average. around 20%. only about one-third of economies are able to grow at about 5%. that is the split in terms of what we got. 2007, the peak year, three economies out of 180, negative gdp growth rate. we had more than 50 percent of the world economy growing at about 5%. this is really a very exceptional time. the question was, what caused this? and then it led to the history of economic development. what causes exceptions, two or three special factors. one was the fact that these economies were catching up. a very poor performance in 1918 and 1919. and because of the poor performance a lot of the balance sheets had been cleaned out in the economies in terms of macroeconomics finances, put an order from indonesia to russia. pay down their debt. a lot of improvements, the macroeconomics. they had their back to the wall which is

to zimbabwe, to afghanistan. he saves the best for last.. that was serious earlier. this is hard-core news you're getting here. >> that's sweet. >> it is very sweet. >>> also, a birthday celebration fit for a king. we want to wish a very happy birthday to prince william. he's turning 30 years old today. the palace says he will celebrate with a quiet dinner with family and a few close friends. it's a big day for him financially. he'll inherit about 10 million pounds, roughly $16 million, from his mother, princess diana. so, happy birthday, prince william. >>> this is my favorite story of the morning. two childhood classics are making a comeback. "sesame street" is headed for the silver screen. word is, 20th century fox has picked up the rights to the "sesame street" movie. and has one of the shows long-time writers onboard to write the script. >>> and, if that's not enough, a new chapter for another tv favorite. my favorite, "reading rainbow." remember that show? it went off the air in 2009. it's launching an ipad app that allows kids to rea

bit the fact that italy over the last ten years has posted a growth rate that makes zimbabwe a high performerwe have a political structure that's completely nonfunctional since the new government came in almost nothing has been done to restructure or reform the economy. and it does look now that the italian banks are sitting on that literal cash and no longer investing in the bond market. >> you seem very skeptical for italy to institute the reforms that are necessary. is that warranted? you also made the point about their poor demographics which i was surprised to hear. are these countries, that's a pretty significant statement if you think the odds of them tumly passing the reforms that are ultimately necessary are pretty slim. i think that's a pretty damning indictment on where this is headed. >> we need to look at the structure of italian politics. we that have this government for all intents and purposes was encouraged into place by an unholy mix of vatican radicals and the eu elites putting it one place. now it has not been empowered to deliver the kind of reform. if we look at the kind

host: in africa, madagascar, zimbabwe comic-con go, -- congo, can you give context to those colors? guest: the burgundy is almost better explained by the blue surrounding it. we have seen a lot of improvement in a lot of places as into a ministerial task forces are passed. prevention, protecting, prosecution. for the first time, we are starting to see innovative responses. zambia is a country that stands out. botswana is looking at cases with child of the stick -- type of domestic services. that brought together police and the ngo community. everyone is working to dismantle these criminal networks. there are other places in africa where we have not seen the same type of response. some of them could be explained by how wartorn the call go actually is. there is rula law in many parts of the condo. go, in the parts of the cond where there is warfare, we need to make sure that it is not army officers that are involved with the idea of emptying out a village of inhabitants. the men to carry supplies. the children to fight. the women to serve as coax a and sex slaves. that is unacceptable

countries like zimbabwe have gone down. this is an index that has the merit of being treated by an african. the creature was born in sudan and is a businessman -- to create toure was born in sudan and is a businessman. he puts his money back into the foundation after investing. we do not measure the performance of democratic governments very effectively. it is left far too much to rhetorical speeches rather than, what are they actually doing? can you measure services to people? can you measure improvements in health and education? that is what this foundation is doing. i think it is an innovative example. >> we cannot have this extraordinary group of leaders without asking a question about how much difference it makes, or does it make a difference, president johnson-sirleaf, to be a woman in this position. is there a difference in what you are able to do, how you are perceived by the people who chose you -- how you see that? you had a chance over the years to think about this a lot. >> it does make a difference. [laughter]

have been expressed that any statute can be very, very simply amended and so suddenly becomes the zimbabwe, is how some people put it -- perhaps not using that country as an example, although it has been used. does that reflect -- >> yes, it does. i think this is a very legitimate fear that lord hunt has expressed and the members of the press have expressed. there's two possible objections on the pro -- on the approach i outlined. on the merits objections, which we can discuss, and if you like, a slippery slope argument. what i thought was interesting about his evidence was -- i don't want to miss characterize him -- to be more inclined to the slippery slope argument. >> he said in terms there were members of both houses who would want to use the opportunity to curtail the freedom of the press and other ways. >> i think as leader of the labour party, i'd set out my very clear position about the limits of what i would want to see. i would not countenance is becoming a license for some massive bureaucratic assault on the press. i would make the point also that there will be a communications

zimbabwe has come down for reasons that are understandable. this is an index that has the marriage to -- has the merits of being treated by an african. -- has the merits of being an african appeared. we don't measure the performance of democratic governments very carefully. it is left to them making speeches rather than what they are actually doing. can you measure improvements? this is what this foundation is doing. i think it is a very innovative example. >> we cannot have this extraordinary group of leaders without asking a question about how much difference it makes. it does it make a difference. is there a material difference of what you're able to do and how you are perceived by the people who chose you that ?ow do you see that that's >> it does make a difference. [laughter] life has been world for men. it is the first time and make progress in 60 years. really, i do believe that women leadership brings a certain dimension to the management, in need of humankind but i think i think comes from a woman and mother. it does not and should no