and in the process, zimbabwe has billiohasbeck an -- has become almost an economic basket case. the elections that are held there now have not been honest in recent years. going to monitor one of the elections six years ago, we were declared to be communist, terrorist as a matter of fact, and my delegation was expelled from zimbabwe. >> now you know how it feels to be cald called that. in. >> in south africa democracy has survived. i think they have a chance to gain a better case in south africa that's the points i'm trying to make. >> what if nelson mandela had served more than one term? >> i don't know in receipt strow spectd what hstrow -- retrospece would have felt. his impact is still going to be profound. they're sorry he's gone but they celebrate vividly and enthusiastically the great contribution that he made in their lives. and i think that spirit of nelson mandela is embedded deeply in the heart and soul and consciousness of the south south africans and that's why i hope this country is going to realize the hopes that nelson mandela had with it. >> stay tuned. i contin

they have villagers in zimbabwe that helped save them.or to that you had communal lands in zimbabwe. >> the government saying don't kill the elephants. >> the villaineagers were killig them and elephants were going through and another wildlife was running off the livestock. >> poachers came they would look the other way? they would go ahead and kill them. >> they would look the other way. then what happened is villagers were allowed to start getting proceed from trophy hunts and safari tourism that came from there. the wildlife became an asset. they hired their own game wardens. now the wildlife was a benefit to the villagers. as a result the elephant population also doubled during a period of 13 years. >> what do you know about this you are with property and environment research center, perks. >> which is in montana. you study areas were river is vat property can help protect animals. >> private ownership is the betts incentive to ckonsz vatio. >> mostf of the buffalo is owne by private ranchers there are some in one state park one has r

yes first the must correct the situation of zimbabwe people must go back to zimbabwe and see what is going on lend has been attended to my job today and in fact that they couldn't meet is growing and the crisis is going over it is coming being resolved in south africa we. based on ongoing inequalities based on land disposition if you want peace lasting peace if you want the consolation if you want a new nation based on divisions of equality and respect someone's people you have to resolve this is not a question it's an easement land must be taken from those who have it now distributed amongst the people and by the way create new you couldn't miss also feed our people and also if they could get a decent resources to address the housing question the education question the health care question and even transportation of our people we cannot twenty years after democracy they know about it in colonial relations amongst our people that's not sustainable it's a recipe for disaster so we see expropriate land without compensation nationalize the middle natural resources god gave south africa

you see a different south africa than what happened to zimbabwe there.dela's leadership was tremendously important. >> enormously important. after 27 years in prison most of which was in solitary confinement on robin island, nelson mandela had every right to come out of jail angry and recentful. angry and recentful towards the apartheid regime that put him there. and angry and recentfu recentfud his captors. he did not come out that way. he did not come out that way. nelson mandela came out with a commitment towards rec consill reconcilliation and redemption and not revenge and retribution. >> and what a difference that has made. >> and because he put rec reconcilliation and redemption above all else, we have a south africa that is enormously different in it's character, it's success, it's stablity, than we see in neighboring zimbabwe. robert mugawbe spent a long time in prison, 17 years. but robert mugawbe came out recentful and seeking revenge. he should have read and heeded the word of nelson mandela. nelson mandela once said that being resentful is l

you have experience in kenya, zimbabwe, somalia. what did nelson mandela mean for africa?> nelson mandela is the symbol of freedom in africa. many of the people across the continent rallied behind the veryapartheid struggle, a long struggle. remember, the national african congress actually started in 1914, and the country did not move to nonracial democratic governance until my 294, which was always the goal of the anc. and whether one is from nigeria or tanzania or closer to home, mozambique, across africa people rallied behind the anc in that struggle. i think president mandela stood for freedom, and he now stands for integrity and perseverance. the continent needs to move towards that in terms of the next phase of the struggle, which is political freedom has been achieved now. economic freedom is necessary. >> speak a little about your own experience in relation to the perspective of nelson mandela, particularly when it comes to nonviolent protest, and in violence in africa, as well is the work you have done combating aids in africa. >> i really respect president mandel

president the only present zimbabwe's known since independence robert mugabe began to sense as well. i mean yes i think so and me. at noon. it is an act that's been going on and that is still bad and i think that obama knows that islam and ten. he squinted and foreign demand. what were your thoughts on on on that score did you get the sense to me cents a day care that obama spoke some truths perhaps that some of the african leaders don't always don't we. the team on defense led to him. there was two years so i did. that said to head to head to the residents. for sure. it is the group come to associate with the prison monday. but i think he was also with reference to the sandbox. yale was a little warm. the most loved it. those games. when darlene sort of. model was the most lawless statesman and lows for me. it wasn't expecting it. what did he said the torn tendons in his school's teachers. use the images said. judge agreed to. brought to at the end of his foes to him the dangerously. eyebrows and said so and so minutes the only means he who does most continents. as wat kind of tired

i was in zimbabwe. as i broke the news, people in that capital were saddened and they do feel for the man who even though was leading a separate company, elevated the flight of black africans and i was on nelson mandela avenue in harare and he opened parliament there in 1998. nelson mandel a, the fascinating story of struggling behind bars and who served as the african president. >> crowd reacting. >> ban ki-moon. >> he is one of the people who is going to be speaking here as well. >> that's right. he is there. we also just saw before that f.w. de klerk sitting with another group of so-called elders, a group around mandela including rahimy the special envoy of the united nations to syria. we saw mary robinson the former eye wish president the special envoy to the democratic republic of congo trying to help the situation there. >> there never has been such a collection of leaders in one place. >> absolutely. i think all three of us were at the funeral of john paul, ii and that was extraordinary to see th

liz: yes, it is a zimbabwe accent. there is a little bit there.at to have you, really appreciate it. we will be watching in china. we want to thank david. please come back. great insight, thank you both. now looking for a job at new york state officials said he will be released on parole early next year. maybe not so disgraced anymore. he did serve more than eight years of his sentence for looting from his company and paid back more than what he was expected to. when i interviewed him in an upstate new york prison he insisted he should not be behind bars after spending so many years behind bars for the former tyco ceo was the poster child for corporate greed after being convicted in 2005. using tyco funds to bankroll a lavish lifestyle including $2 million toga party for his ex-wife on the italian island. those were the go-go days. page $6000 for single shower curtain. but his tentative release is now set for january 17. if he does not find employment he has to go back to the big house and is working on work release. we will ask about that tomorro

what were you told. >> with a little perspective, it's not zimbabwe. this is the enemy of high hopes. i think nelson mandela talked about economic freedom as much as he talked about political freedom. he talked about burdening or unburdening people, not only from segregation, but poverty. i think people lost and gained freedom when apartheid lost. they thought they'd have jobs and more opportunities. so, yes, things have gotten better. there is not any kind of riots that we are seeing over bread, water, basic services. however, the patience is wearing thin. expectations are high, and people look at the economics of the white communities and say, "hey, wait a minute. this is not supposed to happen." that's where people are objecting to and increasingly looking at politicians saying, "hey, you haven't delivered what you promise." maybe nelson mandela party is not as good as it used to be. >> jacob zuma arrived and was booed soundly. he walked away from corruption charges and rape, but censured to recklessness. how has he managed to hold on to power. is i

. >> the same concepts have been used to save elephants and zimbabwe.t essentially has been done is they provided an ownership interest of villagers, and that is helping to save them. prior to that you had to milan's . john: the government saying don't kill the elephants. >> don't kill the elephants. villagers are growing crops, but livestock, aquino land and the elephants were coming through in destroying those crops and other wildlife was running out there while stock. the villagers did not have any interest. >> villagers were allowed to start getting proceeds from trough the hunts and from safari tourism that came through. all of asudden the wild life became an asset. they hired their own game wardens. wildlife had -- habitat doubled. because now it was a benefit. as a result the elephant population also doubled over 13 years. john: why you know about this? you e with -- >> property in environ research center. john: based in bozeman, montana. you folks city areas where private property can help protect animals. >> we believe that ownership provides t

i was living in egypt at the time traveling to visit my visit who was in zimbabwe.mily when we made a stop in ethiopia where the pilot announced a special guest had come on board. he said it was mandela. at the moment i saw winnie peek around the curtain that separated us from the first class section. mandela would say hello to all of us at the end of the flight and he did just that. he shook our hands. he was greeted in zimbabwe to celebrate their ten-year anniversary of independence pfsty red carpet that rolled out, flowers, chants, singers. it was incredible the excitement many felt just seeing the man after his release. eight years later, i had the rare opportunity of ming him again in 1998 as a young reporter covering bill clinton's trip to africa. as one of the pool reporters got to cover the tour, the mandela gave the tour to the clintons where he showed them his prison cell number five where he was held for 18 years. he was thoughtful, no sense of bitterness and clinton told mandela on that trip that he was glad his heart did not return to stone. i returned

when i travel to the zimbabwe border as part of a human rights canal pain for children, young people were streaming across the border by hundreds. they were alone with nothing but the clothes on their backs and they were bound for south africa driven by the rank poverty, economic calamity and horrific violence visited upon them by their brutal president. parentless and penniless, these children had no idea what awaited them on the other side of the border. they had irrepressible hope that what was in south africa was better. there was a time when thought long before that when black children would not have thought south africa as a place to turn in a time of desperation. a country so bitterly divided on racial lines, one that so clearly pronounced one color superior to the other could not reasonably be considered a place of amnesty and safe harbor. these children leaving families in zimbabwe, walking on foot arriving in south africa that would help them. that is a testament to mandela's leg ski. he changed a nation. in so doing established a standard of decency and equality that remai

you see it through social media today and other ways in which for instance, the struggle in zimbabwe,re over 3 million refugees are now in south africa, the dock workers in south africa and in angola refuse to offload chinese arms going into zimbabwe in solidarity. when nelson mandela came to the united states in 1990, he went to many different communities around this country to thank american people, civil society leaders, academics and others, to say thank you for being supportive of the anti-apartheid movement that helped to liberate that country very much in line with the civil society of uprising the anc leadership taking place internally in south africa. >> michael, something you've been writing about, the mantle of great leadership is sort of passed forward from one great leader to the next. do we see a likely successor to the leadership and legacy of nelson mandela? >> no, you really don't see that. you look around the world and i think in many respects he was the last great sort of world historical leader on a scale of gandhi or churchill or fdr to be with us still living. th

you look at zimbabwe next door where robert refuses to step down. he has had a policy of revenge. he wrecked his country. you can see a mirror image of what could have been. and what wasn't all because of the goodness and the vision of one man. >> one of my colleagues at npr put it well, he was for south afrika george washington and abraham lincoln all rollednto one. that does not make him, as we said, a saint. he was theost crafty ofof politicians. he would use things he needed to. to appeal to his constituencies and fend -- and offend others, on purpose. his central purpose was to make the country work and to include everybody. and that was, you know, in modern times unheard of in this kind of situation. i actually would suggest that some of those years in prison allod him to think through what he was going toto do and to assemble people into one central idea and then keep them on track for that so that in the four years he governed. and the four years prior to that when they established the constitution he was able to really -- i do not think there is anybody, any of us have se

. >> we were just talking about zimbabwe. >> when he came on, he held a lot of prompt, nelson -- look, he was an older guy, he put in his time 27 years at rob been island and being president. the fact that he moved on, there are nobody who perfect what has happened in south africa, and that his successors lived up to his mantle, but at least he had successors. >> yeah, i would agree. you know he -- when nelson mandela was went underground after sharkville, the south african freedom fires and one of them was my step-dad, because that led me to go to south africa, when he died he left his exile was with with imprisonment, when he was released from prison and the first waive that left came back 30 years later. they left when they were young men. so i went -- i went to south africa to make this film about these guys to come back, because most south africans did not know about the global movement of the antiapartheid movement, and that was the vision of nelson mandela, to create something that was sustainable through the clap down that happened in the 60's. and so i met nelson when i was f

it ranges from afghanistan to zimbabwe. there are a-list celebs here as well. a hujs security challenge, yes, but a testament to nelson mandela's global influence. >> the appearance of the man they call madiba -- >> reporter: it was at the fnb stadium nelson mandela made his last public appearance at the world cup soccer finals. >> tremendous emotion for that man. >> reporter: today workers erected the stage where he'll be memorialized tomorrow, as police began erecting a perimeter as part of a security undertaking as big as any country has faced. protecting up to 100 heads of state and government ministers who continue to fly in today along with 95,000 members of the public. >> any collection of such dignitaries provides a real risk and a potential platform for terrorist organizations. in that sense, the south africans have to be ready. >> reporter: president obama left washington today for south africa accompanied by george and laura bush and hillary clinton. presidents clinton and carter traveled separately. also converging on south africa, leaders from four

economically, zimbabwe became complete remains in many ways. to president mandela, late president mandela's leadership. today, we will get the u.s. jobs report, all of the data out this week and setting the stage for expectations of a strong number. spec from the jobs report. 189ou're still looking for thousand. when you look at the picture of 2013, 186,000 jobs. you are looking at the best year since 2005. there are the adp numbers. this is a surprising numbers. a blip a little bit of in october. i think the beige book since is tenor and how widespread the recovery. they say modest, tomb moderate. most but not in our coming in at around 200,000. the market is already pricing .n >> thank you very much. >> the teams qualified for the 2014 world cup in brazil. the teams and fans wait to hear. , let'sand its warm up bring in jonathan ferro who's been shaking all morning. >> they just talk. all is a moment we have been waiting for. bookook your hotel, you your tickets. whether youruess team with the knockout stages. beauty of it, you look at some o

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zimbabwe is planning on getting a little relief over lunar new years this coming january by granting pardons for the first time since taking power the presidential office said the parties will be given to those who commit crimes because they are struggling to make ends meet but will exclude those guilty of corruption or those higher up the social ladder the president's decision is aimed at easing the difficulties for ordinary people. the president opted not to pardon anyone and national liberation day in august following through on a campaign pledge to refrain from using her right to do so more information out on north korea seoul spy agency believes north korean leader kim jones uncle tom some tech was executed. not because of an internal power struggle that due to disputes over lucrative business projects the agency also predicts north korea is highly likely to carry out a provocation early next year. and allen reports. the fall of north korean leader kim simmonds uncles and some cake may not have been due to a power struggle like many had speculated. chief of souls national intell

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zimbabwe has become some what of a basket case because of it.h in this country a peaceful transition as happened. that is something i've heard many, many times today, people saying we have to understand the economy's still bad, but we didn't have a civil war. we didn't have blood shed and we live in harmony with our white fellow south africans. the concept of reconciliation and whole concept of that commission versus a war crimes commission has had a remarkable effect on the nation. >> we've been taken by the comment from your interview with the former president jimmy carter. put it in context for us. i'm surmising things that i'm sure i'm wrong on it. so what did he mean -- yes. >> i don't think jimmy carter wasn't saying anything wouldn't have said in front of nelson mandela. what he was saying is what he was president, he made overtures. walter man detail made a staple saying we support a a free south africa, we want a multi-racial south africa. that was not at the time universally accepted especially by most european governments. he said it.

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. >> so good for her but are people doing well in zimbabwe? >> no they are not. they used to sayyaf kau was a hope lrs continent they came up with all sorts of explanations it could be history, it could be culture and so on. but what we sees when some african countries begin to liberalize they begin to make progress. what we need is creativity. >> economic freedom means allowing people to try something new as he said like a new business prosperous country makes it easy. which country through those? i tried to open businesses in it delaware, new york, india and hong kong. i will tell you what happened next. i was able to get permits to open a stossel store in wilmington. >> want to buy a fox t-shirt? >> delaware and nevada are the states in america that make this easiest. but easiest doesn't mean easy. i had to register with the delaware secretary of state division of corporation. >> you have a federal employee identification number, commercial liability insurance. >> in delaware it can be done in a few days. it was good i had done it legally. a wilmington cop cam

look at zimbabwe next door. interesting because you mentioned the sanctions risk.here was a divide in this country about the sanctions. reagan was slow to act and there was a lot of pressure or members of the congressional black caucus and other circles as they have been noting tonight, lots of concerts in support of mr. mandela, lots of concerts in support of those who said that we should not have any dealings with south africa as long as apartheid was still in place. >> the people for sanctions were on the right side of history because it really did weaken the regime and probably brought them to the bargaining table much quicker. >> in your article, you noted south africa's economic and clinical aspects were intertwined. how so? how did he help to narrow that defined? had growth rates under 1% during the entire apartheid regime. from the time he was a like did until 2008 they were clipping along. that is an astonishing miracle and away. he did that by saying we want free markets. we will not nationalize the minds. we want everyone to be able to sort of compete in

and others are arriving soon over the weekend to help us in the rest of the camps where we >> zimbabwe's ambassador to australia has asked the government fo for asylum. she fears for her life if they goes back home. her diplomatic status expires next week. >> i suspect that i have been attacked by the regime. >> a fire on a passenger train has killed 26 people. and the express train where there were 70 people when it caught fire. >> tens of thousands of people gathered at the place that has seen the rise of anti-corruption movement to witness political history in the making. there wasn't a spare seat in the house as they swore in delhi's new chief minister. the supporters say this is just the start of things to come. they're part of a growing political movement. a national campaign to fight corruption began in 2011 with protests led by activists. the party aap is a product of that campaign. it says that it's ready to deal with the big challenges that lie ahead. >> you're seeing a lot of pessimism with the type of challenges we'll be facing, but being a member of the political party it's

dramatic difference, especially when you compare what happened in south africa to nearby rhodesia and zimbabwewhere there was apartheid and that country descended into chaos? >> absolutely. leaders make the difference and the contrast you drew against nelson mandela, and robert mugabe. as great as nelson mandela was, one of his greatest aspect that hadn't been touched on by a sufficient number of people is that he was a team player. the anc was a large big tent national organization, tumbo was the leader until his death in the 1990s. he led while nelson mandela was in prison. armond. and chris honey mentioned earlier. he pulled the group together and his wisdom and patients, gentleness and toughness. the form area apartheid regime tried to play him off against other leaders to split the anc. he never allowed it to happen. >> tough, but was he contradictory. he was a socialist. he flirted with communism. was he a pragmatist, did he want what was best for africa? >> he was a prague r -- practicing mattist. had nelson mandela come into power as the president of south africa, the first democratica

royalty, statesmen and celebrities in attendance with a list running from afghan president karzai to zimbabwe's president. again, we are looking at pictures seen from johannesburg as memorial continues for nelson mandela. >> we have new details of the after school worker at a catholic school in hayward facing charges of molesting a student. the 29-year-old mia cummings is accused of having a two-year long sexual relationship with a student going when he was 12. she was at the all saints catholic school since 2005 and now is in jail. her sister said she confided long before being arrested. >> she asked advise on what to do in regard to this young man. she didn't want to get him in trouble. what should she do, she asked? can you give me advice? >> the school and the we diocese declined an interview and do not think there are other victims. cummings faces eight felony counts of child molestation and is held on $800,000 bond. >> the city council passed an ordinance requiring new homes to be ready to charge electric vehicles. palo alto officials say it adds only $500 to the cot of a new home to inst

. >> zimbabwe's ambassador to australia asked for asylum. she fears for safety if she returns home. she's aligned with the country's main opposition, the movement for democratic change and called the government illegitimate. the diplomatic status expires next week. >> the arctic 30 have left russia after charges from dropped. they arrived at st. pancreas station and we were there to meet them. >> welcome back. >> there was relief for the activists as they arrived in london. they described being held in cold rat-infested cells for weeks. phil ball was the last of the british campaigners to be released. >> what you went through, was it worth it? >> it wasn't a fun experience, but it was worth it. the campaign we went up there to do is to highlight the real crime, which is drilling in the arctic. that needs to stop. if this has done anything, it's made people aware of what is going on. >> in september greenpeace campaigners tried to board the russian platform. they were accused of high school gannism. the parliament approved an amnesty law. all charges were dropped. greenpeace says 4 b

also zimbabwe. if you go to a funeral like that -- the president got cheered at the event and george w. bush got booed at the event. a lot of strange things happening there. the celebration of the life of nelson mandela was the point but the reason people are curious about the cuba piece is because we don't know what the policy is going to be moving forward and is there going to be a move to lift the embargo and you have bipartisan members of congress come together and say that's not going to happen. >> and senator rubio, by the way, said he was against that handshake. >> isn't there a broader question about what our foreign policy is as a whole. the stories seem petty but they shift the dialogue back to what is our foreign policy? what are we doing in the world? and i don't think this administration has one. >> so you have that conversation tomorrow. you know, if we have to use the funeral to have a conversation about foreign policy. >> i think and i listen to president obama's speech, i think he m

the contrast one might want to look at is zimbabwe a country that shows where south africa could have gone. the black leaders came to power and made war on the whites and destroyed the country. mandela understood. he took the example of chile with the reconciliation commission where anybody that tells the truth about what happened ask given amnesty and nobody ended up in jail. the last thing he did utterly remarkable, after five years in office he steps down. that's george washington. that does not happen often in africa or anywhere. he never took the power to his head. he never was intoxicated by it. the example he set is extremely unusual and probably most lasted. >> more from the panel. reverend jesse jackson after the break. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. i'm bethand i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationer

is involved in south sudan, while on the other side they are close to abusive regimes ending in zimbabwe, turning a blind eye to abuses in other countries, where there's an economic impairment, they voice their serves. >> do the african country seem receptive? >> many african countries reckons china has enormous resources which can be brought to bear where western countries try to bring about change. >> is it in the world's interest for china to take a bigger role to get the government of sudan to get along. >> wherever china has leverage, it's in the interests of the international community that china speak out for issues of rule of law, peace and stability, particularly where you have flare-up where lives of thousands are at risk. >> slowly wading into the waters. >> thank you so much for you time. >> still ahead dash in "the week ahead", we discuss u.s. foreign policy and 2014, and a deadly start to the flu season. several states >> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm jonathan betz, here are the top stories - president vladimir putin ordered tighter security following a suicide at

peter godwin is a former human rights lawyer in his native zimbab zimbabwe. he became an author. mandela wrote the forward his book. peter binart is at the university of new york. you pointed out that mandela was always different, even in prison you say everybody else wore rumpled clothes. he took pains to iron his clothes. he stood ramrod straight. he had the kind of imperial bearing. your foundation tried to train leaders in mandela's wake. do you think that the drop-off was inevitable ors had south africa taken a particularly bad spiral downward after nelson mandela? >> look, i think as a country we've taken a knock, but i don't think the process has completely and totally derailed. i think it can be put back on track reasonably easy but it will take a huge amount of hard work to do so and i think we have the resources, the personnel resources and the willingness to put it back on track. >> let me ask you, you were in jail for so many years, what does that do to somebody? looking at you, looking at mandela, what does it do to spend those many years in jail? >> it teaches one a

royalty, statesman and celebrities in attendance with a list running in afghan president karzai to zimbabwe's president. >> in san francisco, firefighters are watching for flareups and keep an eye on the folk at a huge trash collection. highway 101 and candlestick park, matt is on the scene. >> the smoke is billowing out. firefighters have breathing apparatus on rotating in and out of the building because of the thick smoke. the san francisco fire department says the bulk of the fire is knocked down but a pile 100 yards of garbage continues to burn first reported at 8 pock -- 8:30 last night it contains basic building material that is generating so much smoke it has been difficult to get crews this there to tear it apart. >> i was advised this should be no hazardous material but the concern to our members is the smoke. that is why we are wearing the >> they need to ventilate the building to tear apart the rubbish fire. no shelter in place is ordered but dispatchers report callers are saying the smoke is bothering them if you have health issues at home call for help. around the plant, it has b

to power in zimbabwe.ht it was important to set the example for freak that it wasn't just about mandela. that africa needed to be a true multiracial democracy. a succession. i think you'll hear that and a real message to young people around the world, reminding them that mandela was an inspiration for obama in college and saying he should be an inspiration for young people as to what can be accomplished and to rededicate themselves to all that he stood for. you know, very movingly, the president said when he came into the briefing room last week after mandela's death, he said, "i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set. as long as i live, i will do what i can to learn from him." i think you'll be hearing very much similar theme today. there you see, of course, bill clinton, george w. bush. >> the presidents gathering now. john karl, thank you very much. and dr. dyson, we've heard the cheer go up in the crowd. saw president obama. the bond between so many in africa and t

you know, south africa could easily have turned out to be the same kind of blood bath that taksim zimbabweit goes to show the incredible difference that good leadership makes. >> you know, when he was released, one of the first things he said was that he was -- he referred himself as a humble service of you, the people. >> exactly. and that's, you know, if he had not done what he had done, you think about what would have gone on, with all of the people, not just one segment of them, it would have been a terrible tragedy for everyone. and right now, you know, south africa is doing relatively well and particularly a lot of the people who were the oppressed people have had enormous opportunities. do they still have a ways to go? of course they do. we're human beings. we are never going to reach state of perfection. but we need to continue to make progress. and i hope that now that he has died that people will not forget the lessons that were inherent in his life. not only for south africa but really for the rest of the world. you know, he received the nobel peace prize. yank of anyone who des

. >> i understand that the leader of zimbabwe has arrived. you must be very proud. >> yes.ry good. i think this is going to make us very proud as a nation. we have from -- [ inaudible ] -- >> what are your big memories of nelson mandela? what will you remember most? >> the day he came out of the jail. >> that was a special day. >> you know, seeing him for the first time after being in prison for so long. >> when you saw him, what you did you think? >> i just cried. >> did you imagine even then that he would go on to be president? >> yes. that he will. the raining is a blessing. so it shows that the leader and the king of south africa. >> we're going now. enjoy your day ladies. thank you for talking to me. >> the rain in the african culture is a blessing. well, there's plenty of it today. >>> thanks very much indeed. alex there with the crowd down there in the rain braving it all. and and they're trying to get in today as well as the world leaders. >>> it would be interesting to see if they would go over and greet him. that will be interesting as will be some of the other me

i thought it was clear to me the president knew he'd be sharing a stage with raul castro, with zimbabwe'sugabe, she said he was speaking as president of the united states, particularly in that speech. >> yeah. the whole speech, as charlene said, i thought his best speech since the race speech. a very hard speech for him to give because he was so tied to it but was also speaking to a global audience. i thought he did an amazing job of making his points, calling on both world leaders and individuals to live up to mandela's legacy. >> we can't help but notice that president zuma was not warmly received. i know you've been talking about how, frankly, how bad his politics are right now given some domestic issues taking place in south africa with the economy and some other things. >> well, i think that that could have been part of it. i don't know. i wasn't there to see who was actually in the crowd. but also president zuma reads most of his speeches and when he's speaking in zulu, he's much more impressive than when he's reading from a text. that may have had something to do with it. i'm not s

to say we -- on the commission, composed of a formal american judge a distinguished lawyer from zimbabwe, and that prominent businessmen in south africa who was trained in the united states here, we set up that independent commission because we wanted to get to the bottom of this affair, and when they gave that report they had a finding and recommendation which proved that and to the public and said to them, these are the findings of the commission. these are the recommendations. hardly any organization in our country has done that. mr. declerk appointed a mission to allegations, who has been appointed .. it is a on the question of violence. when that report had reached him, it did, he did not have the courage to publish it, to take the, to take the public into confidence. he has suppressed it. we have done something different. >> rose: they say we have to cut and i will leave with this one last notion. april 27, 1994, free elections, black africans in south africa will express for the first time their political will. will that be the happiest day of your life? >> yes and no. yes, becaus

you think about other countries in africa like zimbabwe with the transition that was not peaceful in much of africa. a lot of that struggle was violent including when nelson mandela was ahead of congress and taking place in the cold war. the reagan administration considered them marxist and terrorists and they were insilt rated with communism. they didn't have universal support. that struggle to get south africa booted out of the olympics when tommy smith and john k john carlos. they were also protesting south africa and rhodesia being in the olympics. this deeply touched africans in the olympics. every american with a basic sense of decency. >> we are covering the passing of nelson mandela who passed away late this afternoon at the age of 95. just moments ago, president obama spoke about the impact that mandela had on the president's life. >> i cannot fully imagine my own life without the example that nelson mandela set. so long as i live, i will do what i can to learn from him. >> joan walsh, you get the feeling watching the president right there how profoundly affected he was by t

so africa this stock nation as a polling educational system which was then zimbabwe. worse the zimbabwean didn't know when you when you look at south africa today from people in income and tickets on africa today. and if it gs. did he know it from the stamping and african union and quit. he said that dish again the bad weeks and that he didn't have the right to the physics of africa is in the right to do in the business to africa to us it was like that the duke week with interesting adults and after that said africa after the additional met someone to do a nice angst may come when asked to sit down to happy to have next month and a free now big daddy's no speech leading weeks of the creek the discovery that some business and did it live and that nothing else than to business. so when you because of africa. yet just a phone into the cassette at us and become the supreme being. i can read entering the private and just funnier and it is very painful cos of heaven and get some freakin sucks even in death there seems to be a sort of mandela magic in the air on tuesday. tha