catherine, followed by zina. as i call your name, please start coming up to the mic. sure. >> my name is vadim. i am a parent. my son goes to first grade. i am probably in a unique position to testify to the technical aspect of this, as well as the sec protection of legal framework. -- fcc protection legal framework. i am an engineer in my daily job. day after day, i sealed electromagnetic fields in tell the commission -- in telecommunications systems. i do not work on antennas, but i run high-frequency simulators. i work for companies like intel, cadence design systems, which was and called for projects for the dot, in bed look at studies done by epidemiologists -- and i look at studies done by epidemiologists and interested parties and i read those epi, dpd, all those things a layman would not know what they are about. they make more sense to me than to others. i would like to comment on a few points that are usually brought up in defense of safety argument. one argument that is often made is almost all of us have all middle wi-fi router in our living room and we si