my guest is tzipi livni, the joint leader of the zionist union movement in the israeli parliament, andforeign minister. she has said that the only way to achieve foreign peace is to have two states for two peoples. but why is that? could one state wherejews, muslims, and christians live live peacefully, have a greater chance of delivering peace? tzipi livni, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. hello sarah. why do you think the only way to achieve peace is two states for two peoples? the conflict is a national conflict between two national movements, one is zionism, which acted for many years in order to establish a state for the jewish people, and the other is the national palestinian movement. and as far as my understanding goes, and according to negotiations that we had before, the idea is to end the conflict and to end all claims between these two movements, and between the state of israel and the palestinians, is to have different states for two different peoples, and which each people implement their own right of self—determination. and in israel, israel is a jewish democratic state,

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