and vice president ziziunas is absent. motion passes. we shouldn't tell the commissioners that absent. item six approval of draft meeting minutes, discussion and action item, the commission will discuss and possibly take action to approve the june 26th, 2023, draft meeting minutes commissioners. any questions? no. seeing no questions. any public comment? there's none. no public comment . public comment is closed. does somebody want to make a motion to approve the draft meeting minutes? i will. i'm trying to give y'all another. i will. say my brain. what am i going to do? you're going to make a motion. all right, i'll make a motion. i'll second the motion. okay. motion by commissioner dickerson , seconded by commissioner herbert. commissioner carter's absent. commissioner dickerson. yes commissioner gregory. yes commissioner herbert. yes. president howie. yes. commissioner ortiz. cartagena yes. and vice president ziziunas is absent. motion passes. item seven general public comment discussion item allowing members of the public to comment

yes and vice president ziziunas yes. motion passes. thank you. next item. item five, general public comment. this is a discussion item allowing members of the public to comment generally on matters that are within the small business commission is jurisdiction, but not on today's calendar and suggests new agenda items for the commission's future discussion. any members of the public who would like to make comment on items not on the agenda today, i see we have one. i'm sorry, i'm a little out of breath. i just ran all the way upstairs high commissioners richard carillo with the office of small business. i just wanted to come here today, say hello. but also i wanted to invite you to the next heritage happy hour, which is an event that the office of small business has been doing since february of this year. we partnered with heritage and we pick a different legacy business, usually a bar and we meet there and just it's the second thursday of every month from 5 to 7 p.m. and it's a lot of fun. it's just really casual and we try to give business to the different

yes and vice president ziziunas yes. motion passes. thank you. next item. a discussion item allowing members of the public to comment generally on matters that are within the small business commission is jurisdiction, but not on today's calendar and suggests new agenda items for the commission's future discussion. any members of the public who would like to make comment on items not on the agenda today, i see we have one. i'm sorry, i'm a little out of breath. i just ran all the way upstairs high commissioners richard carillo with the office of small business. i just wanted to come here today, say hello. but also i wanted to invite you to the next heritage happy hour, which is an event that the office of small business has been doing since february of this year. we partnered with heritage and we pick a different legacy business, usually a bar and we meet there and just it's the second thursday of every month from 5 to 7 p.m. and it's a lot of fun. it's just really casual and we try to give business to the different businesses. and so this month's is this th