more like experts when we quote his research three-time representing the office of congresswoman zoe lofgren. i was told to talk a little bit about our personal connection to immigration. i think that's easy for me. i'm the only person in my family born in the united states. my family is from mexico did my grandfather was recruited to work here in the united states during world war ii. my father emigrated here. i sister and my mother emigrated in 1967. we have very different experiences for all three of those members of my family. in my entire professional life, i was looking back. i've always been around immigration law. i am proud that it has been so. someone asked me if i ever regretted been so focused on that. i said i did not do it on purpose. somebody just told me once to do what you love and everything will work out. i'm pleased to say that it has. we were told to give our perspective a little bit. it's hard not to speak personally about comprehensive immigration reform and what it means. i had the privilege to work on some of the most meaningful cases to me. i know it's the one place

there's a great deal of interest in our approach as well in the house, darrell issa, zoe lofgren, but they haven't had enough time to walk the house through it, and i hope given the concern that has emerged over the last week or ten days we'll get that time. >> host: has google and the googles and the binges of the world endorsed -- >> guest: largely, yes. they sent a letter saying that they favor the approach. i'm sure if you ask them, they'll say they're looking at various sundry details, but again, for viewers and listeners, there's no debate here that copyright infringement is a serious, you know, question. we've got a system for dealing with it now, it's called notice and takedown, digital millennium copyright act. it's not perfect. there are ways in which on a bipartisan basis we can improve on it. that's what the open legislation is all about. but the big difference, the fundamental difference between our bill and the others is that we would not do all the damage to the architecture of the internet. we would not tamper with the domain name system, we would not start a censorshi

you had darrell issa and zoe lofgren teaming up to try to offer amendments to fix the flaws that they said were in that bill. and so that's just one example where there is bipartisan, you know, support. >> guest: and a good example, i mean, a lot of times it's the details. so in spectrum, for instance, the republicans and democrats both agree, gee, we need to get more spectrum out there. but how do you do it? for instance, the house bill that was passed that involves the spectrum, it would basically say to the sec you can't limit eligibility, you can't say verizon, at&t, you can't participate in this auction because you're so big, or you can't bid on these particular licenses. that's a provision the republicans got through. there's also a net neutrality provision that democrats oppose. so the big issues people may support and be bipartisan, but it's those little details, if you will, that are not so little, but those finite provisions that can draw people to take one side or the other. >> host: this is c-span's "communicators" program. we're looking ahead to 2012 and some to have regu

members of congress that are stepping up to be a new internet caucus, people like jerry polis and zoe lofgrennd others and then i'm leaving many others out. and senator moran. and i think as they become, is the sort of fill those shoes and becoming a new generation of an internet caucus, they will build up some goodwill and credibility with the constituency when they say look we are trying to move in a constructive way to balance the interest of the internet community with the interest of the copyright community, i think that will certainly help. there is a distrust right now with members of congress and what their intentions are but i think that is beginning to change. >> even if you want to give leadership the benefit of the doubt and i have no problem doing that because we have a consistent in our message about how folks with interest in the creative communities can interact productively with lawmakers. in fact the lawmakers need to hear from this community and again it's a question of how the argument is wasted. if it's just mpaa and r. a. a, the leadership is hearing from them that is a