i couldn't agree more with congresswoman zoe lofgren about what the possibilities are for jack smith, pressing beyond what the committee was able to get. under threat of perjury, under threat of being charged with false statements -- i'm not suggesting that anybody in the trump family is looking to do that, but under that threat, people are a little more evocative and more mindful and memory-ful about what happened. you know, there was a moment that i had to giggle during her testimony. she wanted to know where something came from, and they pointed to the book, and they said this could imfrom this book in which you said this is what you did on this day. so memories can be brought back when a federal subpoena for testimony is served. >> only someone trying to keep their stories straight has to say, wait, wait, who do i tell that to? an amazing day of news. lovely to have you all here at the table. thank you so much. >>> when we come, my dear colleague ali velshi will be part of our panel. he's live in ukraine, and hit one of the most brutal hit part of that country today. the next hour

joining us now is congresswoman zoe lofgren of california. she was, of course, a member of the january 6th committee. congresswoman, thanks for joiningco us. i feel like what mike pence is doing rightat now is the dictionary definition of having your cake and eating it, too. when it is convenient he creates he's either part of the legislative branch or the executive f f branch. are you reading it the same way i am?e you are trained in the law. >> this is long headed on many levels. first, he ought to just stand up andus tell the truth and not tr to evade that. it looks very bad. two, this is unprecedented. i don't think there's any case on this but it's not that hard to decide if speech or debate does not apply in this case. all you have to do is look at article 1, section 2, and article 1 section 6 and the 12th amendment. basicallyen those say the vice president shall open the envelopes and the votes shall then be counted and article 1 section 6 says that members of legislative body may not be held to -- shall not be questioned for speech de

zoe lofgren daughter works for amazon. so lofgren introduced every single time we that 29 hour hearing. zoe lofgren introducing poison pill amendments to try to kill those bills, proudly you know, she sits down at thanksgiving dinner with jeff jeff bezos, his mouthpiece. and so that that's dangerous. nancy pelosi's husband invests in these companies the week before our and it just so happens steny hoyer, the majority leader, stands up the day or two or three days after our hearing when these bills are all put out. because i don't think they thought we were going to pass most of these bills. but when they when these bills passed, the judiciary committee, steny hoyer says they're not ready for the floor. the stock price up. he made about two and a half million dollars off of his investment in some these tech companies that were under investigation. so some of the progressives to their credit said we can't allow members invest in individual stocks. nancy pelosi was opposed to i wonder why. and then you got chuck schumer, two

joining us now is democratic representative, zoe lofgren of california.he house judiciary committee answered on the january 6th select committee. thank you very much for joining us tonight. do you know what's in this 41,000 hours of video? >> i haven't seen all 41,000 hours myself, but the committee did have access to this, and we were very careful with it. we had a hard line into the capitol police database. it was a stand-alone machine, we disabled the capacity to do screenshots, or make copies. we had password protection for each person who access it, and also kept a written record. and before anything was used, we had the agreement, through the general counsel, the capitol police, because there are security issues that the capitol police are concerned about, with just, you know, running at all. now obviously, you watch our hearings, a lot of the video was released. but we didn't release all of it, especially their sensitive areas, the evacuation of the members in various places. you know, it's really a blueprint for bad guys on how to more successfull

former committee member of the january 6th committee zoe lofgren, a democrat, told cnn they're concernedout the security concerns. they had an agreement with the u.s. capitol police on what footage they could release when they had shown some of the footage during their hearings over the past year, but much of that was really debated and agreed to upon what they thought was safe for members of the capitol including not showing them evacuating the u.s. capitol or things like that that they think could be damaging to future security concerns and lawmakers here. >> yeah. it's a real concern in part because we don't know what purpose is that these producers from tucker carlson's show are going to have these tapes for. but the other part of this is the u.s. capitol police. what are they and law enforcement officials saying about all of this? >> reporter: well, we just heard from u.s. capitol police chief mentioner who told cnn that he turned over this footage to kevin mccarthy and said when a member of congressional leadership or oversight committee asks for this footage, they must turn it ove

joining us now is congresswoman zoe lofgren of california. she was of course a member of the january 6th committee. congresswoman thanks for joining us. i feel like what mick pence is doing right now is a dictionary definition of having your cake and needed to. when it is convenient either creates part of the executive or legislative branch. are you reading at the same way i am? i know your ball trained in the law? >> this is wrong headed at many levels. first, geologist stand up and tell the truth and not try to evade the. it looks very bad. number two, this is unprecedented. i don't think there's any case on this, but it's not that hard to decide that speech or debate does not apply in this case. all you need to do is look at article one section three, article one section six and the 12th amendment. basically those sections say the vice president's president of the senate, that the 12th amendment says the vice president shall open the envelopes and the votes shall then be counted. and speech and debate in articles one section six, says memb

representative zoe lofgren and eric swalwell invited two female scientists from lawrence livermore national lab. the director of the lab. the lab is known for some remarkable work. in december it announced a breakthrough in the creation of fusion energy. big stuff here which could be the first step toward weaning the world off of fossil fuels. also invited and in washington, d.c., a capitola business owner who will also attend the speech. representative jimmy panetta, whose district includes santa cruz county, invited chuck hammers, owner of bay area-based pizza my heart. his location, the restaurant suffered some damage and flooding down in capitola from the floods. one of the businesses president biden visited when he was here just a couple weeks ago. >>> warriors fans, this one's going to hurt. an injury is going to keep steph curry off of the court at least for a few weeks. if you were watching on saturday, you saw it. cringeworthy. curry hurt his knee in the third quarter of the team's win over the mavericks. mri results came back and showed small ligament tears but nothing serious. at

young women around the country that they can have a future in physics as well. >> congresswoman zoe lofgreno manages to have these spinning plates talking about threats to our democracy and all of our future. thank you so much congressman lofgren for starting us off. take care. >> thank you. >> bringing in alycia and michael. ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser to president obama. i am curious about what the answer is who is more dangerous to democracy, right? the ones who sit and see january 6th and the ascendance of matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene and the guy that wore the kevlar vest and all these yahoos, or the people who see it as we see it and say nothing? >> for me, it's the ones who say nothing. that silence is deadly, because what it connotes is acquiescence and approval. we can go at various points in our history and look back at leaders who stood up in the moment and said sit down, we're not doing that. the most recent example of course is john mccain in 2008. when all the hoopla was sort of fermenting and frothing around barack obama and his pedigree and hi

zoe lofgren has told cnn when they released a lot of this footage during the past year, of the january said, u.s. capitol did not want them using video of lawmakers evacuating the capitol that day. lofgren told us that she worries having that footage in the hands of the wrong people, could provide a blueprint for bad actors on how to successfully attack the capitol again. >> alayna treene there on capitol hill, thank you. >> for more on this, let's bring in adam kinzinger, a cnn senior commentator and republican on the house committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. great to have you joining us, especially on this particular issue. we know that the speaker had been pressured to and ultimately promised to relitigate the investigation into the january 6th insurrection. what was your reaction, though, when you heard that he handed over these tapes to fox news? >> well, it's kind of surprise, and kind of not surprise. the surprise is i would have thought that he had more respect for the institution. as to, you know, going through and understanding where there are security conce

we spoke with zoe lofgren, a former member of the january 6th comm committee, and she told us they wereareful working with u.s. capitol police in what footage they could use in the hearings. one thing they did not want to be shown was lawmakers being evacuated from the capitol building. she told us she worried that showing something like that or other footage that could be improperly handled could create a blueprint for, quote, unquote, bad actors to try to attack the capitol again. i will say from my reporting that i spoke with several sources in republican leadership, and they told me that mccarthy didn't go to them before releasing this footage to fox news or making the decision to turn over this footage to tucker carlson. he did not consult hakeem jeffries, the democratic leader as well, before deciding to turn over a lot of this footage. >> what's the justification for doing this, do you think? >> well, i think what mccarthy will eventually tell you when he gives you an answer is that it's transparency, right? the argument is going to be -- >> to get to one supportive channel? >> o

earlier today, committee member zoe lofgren reacted to the subpoena news. >> both of them appeared beforeee. some of it was useful. but i will say there was a vagueness, especially with mr. kushner, but also ivanka, where it was just hard to believe they could not remember some of the things they claimed not to remember. i believe that a grand jury appearance might shake the recollections in some cases. >> it might, the committee did get a vaunted to talk about whether she believed her father 's election fraud lies. and they asked her specifically about former attorney general bill barr's testimony that there was zero basis for all those very lies. and here's what she said about that. >> how did that affect your perspective about the election when attorney general barr made that statement? >> it affected my perspective. i respect attorney general barr. so, i accepted what he was saying. >> meanwhile in the state of georgia, fulton county da fani willis has said a decision on charges in her trump investigation or imminent. but recent interviews by the special counsel grand jury foreperson,

here is how january six committee member, zoe lofgren described the memo this past october. >> the draft statement, which was signed on october 31st, declares we had an election today, and i won. and the fittin memo indicates a plan that only the votes counted by the election day deadline, and there is election day deadline would matter. i don't election day just outside of 5 pm. mr. fit, indicated that he spoke with the president about the statement. >> tom fitton -- all the votes that were counted by a made-up election day deadline. and just ignore all the other ballots. which is -- on the mar-a-lago front, cnn reported was tom fitton, who is in trump's here, that you can keep all the documents, their years. you own them. watch as it turned, out was just totally blatantly wrong. the justice department grand jury has been busy. here last week trump's top department -- can cuccinelli, testified before the grand jury invested mailing trump's effort to subvert the election. you'll remember, cuccinelli is a da official that trump asked to seize the voting machines, in key swing states six w

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>> i think i echo some of the concerns that zoe lofgren stated on your show. i think somewhere near 40,000 hours of this footage, taken from every angle within the capitol. one could clearly, in studying this, determine evacuation routes, areas where capitol police stage or evacuate people, all types of things could be compiled from the footage in its entirety. as the committee, we saw to release everything that we gathered, but we did hold back those things that could have a national security concern or could have a concern to the future security of the capitol and the capitol police officers and the people who work there. the fact this is being released in such a cavalier way into the hands of someone who is actually clearly intended to use it to discredit the actual footage that they have available to them is really quite concerning. kevin mccarthy never wanted to investigate january 6th. he wants to rewrite the history of that day, and i think he's found probably the wildest mouth spees as far as conspiracy theorists to help him in that narrative. >> congr