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joining us now is congresswoman zoe lofgren of california. of the january six committee, and as she wrote in a recent msnbc op-ed, special counsel jack smith is vindicating the committee's work. congresswoman lofgren, thank you for joining us tonight. i wonder what your thoughts were when you read that paragraph in this indictment about whether mr. de oliveira was loyal and whether or not that was the threshold with which he could get an attorney paid for by trump. >> well, it was reminiscent of the testimony we got from cassidy hutchinson, and not just that he was loyal, but that finding the lawyer and making sure that he was on the team would keep him from telling things or revealing things that would be damaging to the ex-president. hutchinson's testimony basically was that she wasn't told how much the lawyer was being paid, basically that this lawyer was counseling her not to tell the full truth. and in fact he advised her to put herself in a position to be held in contempt of congress. they dangled jobs in front of her to make sure that s

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spoke congresswoman zoe lofgren, thank you for your time tonight. we appreciate it.s on the next big federal indictment, don't take your eyes off what is happening in the states. we're going to tell you about some very big indictment news out of the state of michigan and what it has to do with the investigation in georgia. that is next. that is next >> believe it or not, they have more big indictment news this evening, involving a special prosecutor an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. but i'm not talking about jack smith. i'm talking about michigan. last night, and a conservative podcast, a lawyer known for pushing the big lie, a woman named stephanie lambert, claimed that she has been indicted. lambert was part of a group of trump allies who, after the 2020 election, allegedly went and michigan conning three different counties into handing over a total of five voting machines. they then allegedly took those machines to hotel rooms and airbnb's, where they allegedly broke into them, the machines, and ran what they believed to be forensic tests. t

. >> joining me now is congressman zoe lofgren of california. he was a member of the january 6th select committee. congressman, it's an honor to have you here. from the public reporting and any inside baseball that you heard in d.c., is special counsel jack smith heeding the road map that the 1/6 select committee set forth basically for him and the doj? >> it looks like the facts that we uncovered have been important to the department of justice. as you know, "the washington post" did a little digging and discovered and reports that doj wasn't looking at anybody but the rioters themselves until the committee outlawed the evidence that mr. trump was at the center of a multifaceted criminal effort to undo the election. whether the charges will match exactly what we referred, i don't know. but i do feel a great deal of satisfaction that the work that we put in and the evidence that we compiled was helpful in making sure that justice is done here. >> you know, there are some key people who refused to speak to your committee but did testify before ja

congressman mark desaulnier and congresswoman zoe lofgren both say they believe in investigation is long overdue. >> i think it's justice. i think justice is proceeding with fairness from my perspective, methodically. >> i've got to believe that he wouldn't be pursuing this if he didn't have overwhelming evidence to support an indictment. you know, he has to prove whatever he alleges beyond a reasonable doubt. >> both also deny any accusation that the probe is politically motivated. >>> well, let's move on. closer to home, happening tonight, will oakland mayor sheng thao get a pay raise? there's a lot of debate about this issue. the city council is deciing tonight. the charter for the city of oakland requires the mayor's pay be based on the average salary of city managers of six comparable cities. that's not the case for mayor thao. her base salary is just over $200,000. it should be approximately $215,000. for comparison, mayor london breed's base salary in san francisco is closer to $350,000. on top of that, the salary for the oakland mayor hasn't been raised in ten years. so proponent

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earlier i spoke with democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren from california, who sits on the us house immigrationn the immigration house subcommittee, and canada recently introduced an immigration initiative that would attract high skilled professionals from the us. why can't the us accommodate these immigrants? because republicans have blocked every effort to do that. you know, it wasjust a year ago i chaired the immigration subcommittee. we had a hearing on the brain drain to canada. and it's because of the structure of our laws. we made an effort last year, and we've made several efforts to make adjustments. 0ur law basically has not been changed significantly since 1990 and actually will work on the same framework from 1965. it doesn't currently meet the needs of the united states, but we've run into a roadblock with republicans. if there is this roadblock in a divided congress, what can be done to stop this brain drain, as you called it? 0h, america isjust going to lose. the canadian recruiters have been down here for a long time picking off the best talent to go to canada. the only thing th

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the reason for the delay is evidently technical issues, as california representative zoe lofgren explained putting together the video and exhibits is an exhausting exercise for our very small, you know, video staff. so we're trying to -- we were going to have one, two, three in one week and it's just -- it's too much to put it altogether. >> stephen: let me get this straight. so you have to postpone saving democracy because your video staff is overwhelmed? it's like paul revere's famous cry: "error 404. horse not found." come on! come on! come on, lofgren! you're postponing because your poor widdle video team is tie-tie? i got a video team here at "the late show" and i ride 'em like a borrowed mule and i put 'em away wet, okay? they put together clips five nights a week under inhuman conditions, by which i mean watching fox news. these folks have seen -- it's awful! these folks have seen tucker carlson's face more than their own children! and they can handle anything i throw at them. watch this. video team, can i get some footage of the former president refusing to say he'll accept the ele

. >> so it is a very important meeting and the tweet is very important but as zoe lofgren said earlier in commenting about this, it is important to keep this in context because there's so much more to what donald trump was doing because he had engaged in pressuring the department of justice. he engaged in pressuring state electors. he had tried all sorts of ways. so this was coming down to the last possible ways of overturning the election and the will of the people. so it's obviously very important that that context around it should not be forgotten. obviously what happened at the meeting as you alluded to is just it was completely antithetical to a democracy. you had people talking about taking over the department of justice with the likes of sydney powell of all people. you had the idea that the military, with no facts whatsoever, would seize voting machines and redo the election. begin, completely antithetical to a democratic process. and the tweet really fits in with that theme, which is that one of the things that the president was trying to do is say okay, here's another way to

san congresswoman zoe lofgren was part of the congressional committee that sent four possible charges against trump to the department of justice. they include conspiracy to defraud the united states and incitement of insurrection. >> the special counsel has been able to talk to some people who refused to talk to us. for example, mark meadows. he may have information we could not get that might support additional charges. >> a trump advisor says the former president does not plan to appear or testify before the grand jury this week. >> a new report accuses california's largest university system of ignoring sexual misconduct and bullion claims. report gave recommendations and how the university can improve but as sac fly tests found out students lack of trust the university system will investigate complaints. >> jury selection in the criminal trial began monday. the former san jose head of lytic trainer was charged after dozens of former female athletes accused him of sexual assault. also on monday this report was released showing sexual harassment claims throughout the csu system were

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"outfront" now, democratic congress congresswoman zoe lofgren.by biden, by trump. but republicans spent a lot of the hearing today on conspiracy theories, which wray did his best to knock down. i'm curious, though, congresswoman, whether you are worried that any forum that airs conspiracy theories, even if the forum debunks them, just gives them more oxygen. >> well, i think that's really the point of what the republicans are trying to do. they started by saying that the fbi is no longer trusted by the american people to the extent that americans don't trust the fbi. it's because republicans have been lying about them and trying to discredit them. so, this is really a campaign on the part of extremists to excuse the ex-president's behavior and to somehow blame the fbi for the insurrection on january 6th. it was a bizarre hearing. >> i mean, in that theory in and of itself, both bizarre and discredited. and, yet it keeps rearing -- it's like groundhog day. and again and again we heard things like that, congresswoman. i'm sorry, go ahead, make your

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i spoke with congresswoman zoe lofgren yesterday, the impeachment managers.nd she said that there is nothing in the law of allows for that. basically kind of brushed it off as it is not a serious idea. i mean are you confident that something like that won't go anywhere in the house? >> absolutely not. people are of their minds. kevin mccarthy is the hostage and she. if you, no i don't know that he is in control of anything that is happening. they can call about a, i do hope they call about, because there are two dozen republicans that are in very vulnerable seats. so it's 40 to force the vote on that. and they can have a reckoning in 2024. but once again, this potential vote, if it does come up, and also the crazy hearings that we are having, you, know against all of these institutions, is another way to try and discredit the government. and might i remind you that jeff sessions was a united states senator, you know? a senior senator. venerable. and evoked opposition to be come a.g.. he wasn't selling time shares. he was taking over an institution that was cr

>> representative zoe lofgren called it the big rip-off in juan of our hearings.und the rnc and the trump campaign made a total of $250 million in the months after the election based off of this lie, where voters thought their money was going into an election defense fund that was completely about trying to overturn the election. one thing i would like to mention, ana, we're talking about obstruction here and donald trump trying to obstruct an investigation. we found substantial concerns that we had about donald trump trying to obstruct the january 6th committee's investigation. we had lawyers that were paid for by that save america pac we found were telling their clients to give false or misleading statements to the select committee. cassidy hutchinson changed her lawyers because of this very purpose, where they told her to just say you don't recall something that she did recall. we found many instances of donald trump trying to contact select committee witnesses. i wanted to add that in there because we know donald trump has done this before. the select committe

i want to bring in congresswoman zoe lofgren. a democrat of california. who is a member of the january 6th committee. . ,. always good to talk to you. let's go ahead and start with the former president, receiving that target letter from the doj on election interference case. what's your reaction to this, especially as one of the members of the january 6th committee? >> well, i was heartened to see that, as you know, our committee compiled a very large amount of evidence. which indicated criminal liability on the part of the ex president. that's why we referred for criminal matters to the department of justice for further work. we don't know exactly the elements of the crimes that may be charged. we were able to uncover that the ex president was at the center of a multi faceted, wide ranging scheme, to overturn the election. essentially, as judge carter said in his evidentiary case, attempted coup. >> congresswoman, as far as the charges cited in the target letter, one of the charges does contain one of them in the january 6th committee recommended, conspi