joining us now is congresswoman zoe lofkin. i really appreciate you being here tonight. thank you. >> happy to do it. >> first, let me ask you if i got any of that wrong or got any of the wrong way around? either the new information that's been reported to night about republicans texting with the white house up to and after january 6 or any what i just reported about what is happening in court? >> not that i'm aware of. we're going to be publishing these. i think there will be a lot of interest when we release the records and there's a lot to sort through. >> and in terms of all your records that, will be the transcripts of the hundreds of interviews you conducted and also the documentary evidence that you obtained as a committee? >> yes. this exception, the secret service sent us but they lent it to us, like a million documents. most of it is not relevant. it's no the a committee record. we don't own it. we were just allowed to sort through it. but the relevant pieces of information are that we obtained from that, we will, of course, make available. >> what should we ex

i want to get your thoughts on what congresswoman zoe lofkin told us earlier this week. >> the effect referral to the ethics committee is for it to die in that committee. why do that? >> well, we'll see. i mean, the ethics committee is evenly divided, five democrats, five republicans. and they are supposed to act without regard to party. and when i chaired the committee, that's what we did. i would like to believe that pattern which is in the house rules will be followed. if it isn't, shame on them. >> what do you think of committee's decision to refer them to the ethics committee rather than for criminal prosecution? >> well, i'm not sure the committee had many better options, paula. you know, of the other subpoena defiers, two of them were prosecuted. that's steve bannon and peter navaro. but mark meadows and former white house official dan scavino were referred to doj, no prosecution. the now it's wrong of kevin mccarthy and the others to defy lawful subpoenas from the house. we'll see if the committee takes action. they probably won't. there is one other wild card here which is we

joining us now, congresswoman zoe lofkin, member of the january 6 house select committee and also theh, yeah. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. >> good day on multiple fronts, the report, zelenskyy and birthday. a trifecta. you know, we've been -- we've been talking to you on this show and other shows for the last 18 months. as we got closer to the end game here there was a lot of talk from you and from others on the committee. it's like wait and see. wait until we get to the end. we can discuss things more fully than we were able to while we were still in process. what is it that you think that we should be the kinds of things that fall under the category of stuff you couldn't talk about while you were still actively investigating but now you can't? what are the kinds of things we should be talking about with you today? >> unfortunately the report is delayed. i don't know why. my understanding it is wasn't quite ready and also kind of rude to release it right in the middle of president zelenskyy's speech if it was ready. we'll have it out tomorrow. the logistics of getting all of the