zuck is making an enormous bet on the metaverse they're spending upwards of a billion dollars per month. if it is going to be realized, and the potential is going to translate into profits, there is going to need to be a lot of innovation that is going to happen up and down the organization and i think zuck recognizes he needs to have that level of connectivity. in that sense, i see this as his jobsian moment. >> interesting what are your thoughts too, i read salesforce is getting into the ai game. everybody under the sun is how much substance is it relative to hype >> there is always going to be a level of hype whenever we see a paradigm shift so, we need to make sure that we maintain some level of focus in the case of salesforce, i do believe that this represents where the near term opportunities exist in incorporating ai look, there are white collar opportunities that i think make the most sense for ai. and in particular, when we think about the more rote activities that white collar professionals perform, the mundane tasks that really need to be done, but they're not really the thin