zuckerberg. zuckerberg, very interesting guy. he is, he really -- i think the feedback thing is real. i mean, a lot of people that i've spoken with he'll go in and more than tell you what to do, he'll is can a bunch of -- ask a bunch of questions and try to get inside your mind. tim cook, very well liked. nice guy to the people who matter inside apple but much less willing to take feedback. it seems, from the rest of the company. and we can talk about it, but i don't think apple has any of these idea pipelines like the other companies do. so people generally like tim cook, but there was one story where, about someone in the rank and file met, just saw tim cook in the headquarters, and he goes, hey, good morning, and then tim goes, see you. and the guy say z, like, telling me the story. what do you mean? it's like telling me to fuck off, you know? so that was, i thought, kind of interesting. and then definitely like the rest of them, incredibly curious. there were employees who were at the bottom ranks of the company, adel la was

zuckerberg -- zuckerberg comfrey interesting guy. he really is the feedback thing is real. a lot of people i've spoken with, you will go in and more than tell you what to do. he'll ask a bunch of questions, try to get inside your mind and then make a decision. tim cook, for he will like, nice guy to the people that matter inside apple. but much less willing to take feedback it seems from the rest of the company if we can talk about either don't think apple is any of these idea pipelines like other companies do. people generally like tim cook, but there was one story where some in the rank-and-file just saw tim cook in the headquarters and he goes hey, good morning. tim says, see you. the guy says, like, see you? what you mean, see? like you telling me to ask off. that was kind of interesting. and then definitely like the rest of them come incredibly curious. there were employees were at the bottom ranks of the company. he was middle manager and he would go out and be like okay, you are 22, 23 i want here which have thinks i'll take you out to dinner and pick their brain, wh

zuckerberg, zuckerberg, very interesting guy. thing is real, a lot of people i've spoken with, he will go in and more than tell you what to do, you will ask a bunch of questions, try to get inside your mind and then make a decision. Ãbvery well-liked, nice guy to the people that matter inside apple but much less willing to take feedback it seems from the rest of the company and we can talk about it but i don't think apple has any of these idea pipelines like the other companies do. people generally like tim cook but there was one story where some of the rank-and-file just saw tim cook in the headquarters and he said, good morning and then tim said, see you. he said see you, what you mean see you? it's like telling me to f off that was interesting. and then Ãbdefinitely like the rest of them incredibly curious. they were employees who were at the bottom ranks of the company he would go out and be like, you are 22, 23 but i want to hear what you think so i will take you out to dinner and pick your brain which is interesting. i thin

with zuckerberg it's the opposite. he brought me and my editor into talk about this manifesto on the future of facebook like should they step into people's lives common example is somebody's says they want to hurt themselves to space bar kevin obligation to go again. that is what he is struggling with or when facebook has an obligation to step in and when they don't. i said i have the document was ready to get a lecture and ask a question and go home he said i really want your feedback. and i said that's different like an interesting sales job that he's trying to make me think that he cares. so i didn't have an answer but the meeting was a very interesting briefing. and then i started to ask people what is up with the zuckerberg feedback thing? and it turns out that's just embedded into the facebook culture the posters on the wall that say feedback is a gift and facebook employees take multi- day trainings to receive feedback and so for the book i can sit in on one of those at the beginning of the facebook chapter it w

zuckerberg had a eureka moment. one of his people came over and pulled him aside in a q&a that he does with the entire company said listen mark i understand why you're attached to this but it's not working and you have to make a change. to make this change we will have to change the way we develop a product by the company. they would actually screen ios developers and their improvement process. it actually had to be a whole new way of building a whole new way of hiring in basically if you don't do this facebook is going to be in really big trouble. that's why he ended up doing this thing and people heard about this mythology. he was open to feedback and a change the course of the company because of that. that's the whole thing, right? hit refresh and 1% done and the ability to say starting at square one and two at the pipeline to bring in ideas to let you know it's time to do that. zuckerberg did that well. .. alex: the practical suggestions that he gave us. what amazon does and to have ideas that are clearly articu

>> zuckerberg's?ey's >> both. >> when we come back, we've got some breaking news on jobless claims first quarter gdp and much more. a whole host of numbers on the way at the bottom of the hour. stay with us "squawk box" will be right back. (vo) our communities need help like never before and wells fargo employees are assisting millions of customers across america through fee waivers and payment deferrals, helping people stay in their homes through mortgage payment relief efforts and donating $175 million dollars to help hundreds of local organizations provide food and other critical needs... when you need us, wells fargo is here to help. >>> breaking news from washington ylan >> reporter: andrew, i did get a copy of that draft order from a source and the main thrust of this executive order would be empowering the fcc with some new abilities. this order would ask the fcc to write rules on when and how platforms can and should remove content and still maintain that liability shield is so critical to bus

zuckerberg. very interesting guy. the feedback thing is real. a lot of people i have spoken with walt tried to get and sign your mind and then make a decision that tim cook very well liked nice guy to the people that matter inside apple that much less willing to take feedback. it seems from the rest of the company but i think apple has any idea pipeline like the others do people generally like tim cook but there was a story someone in rank and file sought tim cook at headquarters and said good morning and then he said see you he said what do you mean cracks that's like telling me to fuck off. so that was interesting but those employees that was the middle manager to go out and say you are 22 but i will take you out to dinner and pick your brain which is interesting. even cook to some extent but they are not like traditional leaders to get up on a picnic table and have the companies surround them on the megaphone this is what we are doing go do my vision but they do well because even bezos takes their personalities out of it and takes the thought

. >>> coming up a nice gift from mark zuckerberg and his wife, the surprise they gave eight of their favorite restaurants, how those restaurants plan to pay it forward. >>> another show of support for our health care workers lined up with patrol cars, ambulances, and motorcycles. san jose police let other south bay first responders ensure hospital work es arrivers. the celebration coincided with the shift change. you could tell many were overcome with emotion. >> it pays to be liked by facebook's founder. eight bay area restaurants struggling to survive during the shelter-at-home order received an unexpected gift. >> as marianne favro shows us, facebook mark zuckerberg and his wife gave each restaurant $100,000. >> the owner of this restaurant in palo alto says mark zuckerberg is a regular customer. when she received an email from him offering $100,000, she thought it was a scam. turns out it was no joke. zuckerberg and his wife priscilla chan transferred 100 k to her account and now she plans to pay it forward. >> i just appreciate what they did for us and all the money goes to help

so, facebook, what an opportune time for dana to interview mark zuckerberg. jack doors can i have says this does not make us an arbiter of truth. our intention is to connect the

todd: how social media is responding to mark zuckerberg."the return of drifting" "drafting" "the return of the slide job" "ripping the wall" "gas-n-go" "bump-n-run" "the return of loud" "nascar is back, and xfinity is bringing you the best seat in the house." >> as donald trump gears up to sign an executive order on social media mark zuckerberg not fact checking the president. >> we have a different policies and twitter on this. i believe strongly that facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth of everything people say online especially these platform companies shouldn't be in the position of doing that. jillian: carley shimkus with serious xm 115 here with the responsible we shouldn't be surprised, they are kind of competitors. >> janice: they argue a lot on decisions and opinions like this but mark zuckerberg making it clear he disagrees with twitter and their decision to fact check the president. his position is social media companies should certainly be a platform for others to share opinions and not make decisions about what is true or

get things wrong this is the problem and jim has said it correctly on this program is and mark zuckerberg or did get it right or not these and on think that donald trump plan once you go down this road are president obama's comments about you keep your doctor and your health care costs are going to go down they kept repeating these lies on social media after that was proven by governmental agencies that this wasn't true i never complained about it this is just a matter of opinion so the question is who is the police here is do we want to entrust a partisan newspaper in washington d.c. to be the fact checker for the american people or twitter which held rallies in favor of hillary clinton in its offices and crying when she lost in are now trying to manipulate the election because it hasn't affected ok social media platform their response is simply put your own posts up and say the president wrong derek go ahead sorry if i may i think what's dangerous here is actually continuing to to attack the the free press which the president has done since before he got to office and if we really want

the shortage from >>> facebook founder mark zuckerberg and his wife dr. priscilla chan are helping teachers get acclimated to distance learning. they're a nonprofit, khan zuckerberg initiative announced today a $1.2 million grant to donors choose. on donors choose, teachers can request donations for resources to help students learn better from home. chan spoke one on one with abc7 today. >> it can be art supplies, notebooks, books, even groceries for kids who need it, and we're focusing on the low income schools in the bay area counties. and so we're just thrilled to be able to help our heroes in the classroom extend their reach at a time when it's so hard to stay connected. >> $750,000 of the grant funds are going to projects by bay area teachers who teach at schools where 50% or more of students qualify for free or reduced lunch. for projects elsewhere in the country, czi is providing $500,000 to match donations from members of the public. >>> meanwhile, thousands of facebook employees won't be returning to the office anytime soon. ceo mark zuckerberg a

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i agree with what mark zuckerberg said. social media should not be the arbiter of truth of what everybody says online. it's interesting with twitter. if you are going to hire somebody to be the arbiter, you have to look at what they have tweeted. should the arbiter be an individual that believes any states in the midwest that he refers to as fire for states are racist? we believe those who work for the president should be similar, similar to nazis who worked for hitler's? i would find that a hard truth. mediaatched what social has been able to do. from a a concern monopoly perspective on some. what mark zuckerberg said is the approach that they should take. with the president is doing is correct. morningpeaker this criticized you and your 180 after for doing a the president's tweet. did you want to respond to that? what is the path forward on this bill? previously, many republican said these were crucial national security authorities. [inaudible] what is the path forward here? toldat is exactly what i the majority leader a

he mentored zuckerberg and one of zuck's harshest critics.ined by a former cia officer and global head of elections. she used to be the head of a elections integrity for political 'tissing at facebook. she was an insider. she's currently a visiting fellow at digital life initiative. can you explain to us in 30 seconds the executive order and why it would be a problem for trump. like, he would be in a little bit of legal trouble if the tweets and facebook posts were, you know, -- >> sure. thank you for having me on. what he essentially is trying to do is get rid of what is called section 230 of the communications act. many of us have been working hard to reform this and to think about smart ways but he wants to completely annihilate it. what it does is, it provides protection for internet platforms, intermediaries to not be held responsible for the content posted on their site. it also protects them to be able to moderate content that they deem inappropriate. so what it means is he essentially is weaponizing the first amendment. trying it shou

that's not joh mark zuckerberg, that's john basch. but dana perino talks to mark zuckerberg about what all this might mean. or don't listen because we don't have it, but here's what he said. i have to understand what they would try to do, but they are worried about censorship and it doesn't exactly strike me as a right reflex. now on this new doj probe into unmasking, this will serve as an adjunct to the durum investigation which is underway. the german investigation of course has been looking into the roots of the russia investigation and in the past few weeks, obama officials requested the name of michael flynn to be unmasked. there's also a a desire to know what obama officials have asked for. >> that's why the attorney general determined that it was appropriate to look at unmasking a support to john durham's investigation and looking specifically at episodes both before and after the election. like i said it, the frequency, who was unmasking home, all of the circumstances and events can shed light and give us a better understandin

you know, mark zuckerberg didn't get a lot of love for effectively saying you shouldn't fact-check or at least facebook won't fact-check the president in an instance like this. at the end of the day, you and i have talked about this a lot. philosophically speaking, would you rather have mark zuckerberg, the owner of a private, for-profit company, making decisions about what people can and can't say and getting into wars with the president, or rather have government step up and set what mark zuckerberg and other tech leaders have asked for are rules of the road by which they can play. the reason that tech leaders are asking for more regulation and, obviously, they want certain kinds of regulation, but the reason they are asking for it is because they are in the business of running their businesses. and they do not want to get bogged down in what are obviously, as we're seeing today, extremely messy fights about political speech, freedom of speech, censorship and issues like that. what they want to do is know how they are allowed to run their businesses and then run their businesses acc

here is mark zuckerberg. >> we have a different policy. believe strongly that facebook should not be the arbiter of truth of everything people say online. in general, private companies should not be in the position of doing that. host: well, twitter boss ck dorsey hit back and took this swipe at mark zuckerberg by tweeting, "this does not make us an arbiter of truth. our intention is to show the information in dispute so that people can judge for themselves ." anthony, president trump had threatened big action, and we are expecting that big action to be in this executive order, but when it comes to the actual executive order, when can we expected and what do we actually know about it? >> the latest we heard from the white house press secretary is they hope to have the executive order out sometime in the next few hours. it keeps getting pushed back because of the struggles that come with crafting an executive order that does something but does not violate the law. one thing this executive order is said to be targeting is a 1996 law that pro

mark zuckerberg today, i asked him a couple of things. was specifically about twitter's decision to make its first attempt to fact-check the president on the mail-in ballot tweet, there are hundreds, if they were going to choose one, i don't know why they would choose that one, i think the first step out ofho the gate they fell on their face, because they were basically then fact-checked. so free speechen is working prey well. but what facebook has said is they will not weigh in on political speech. now that is something that they instituted last fall. they stuck to it so far. the left actually is so frustrated with facebook. they think that they are evil. and so i think that when there is a threat about either antitrust actions by the justice department or the fcc, or if you look at something with the president talking about the executive order. i don't know all the details as was said will be released tomorrow, but i think that facebook and other tech companies know that washington is coming toto get them. they are trying to figure out

and mark zuckerberg is definitely emphasizing that. nancy pelosi calls it pandering, but zuckerberg was very clear about this in that big georgetown speech back in october, saying, we're going to give political speech a wide berth. and now when's the next time we're going to have to watch twitter slap a fact check on the president's tweets or anyone on the democratic side. they've set themselves up for a pretty difficult task. and even so, they are fairly subjective in what they choose to police in their fact checking effort jack dorsey saying that the platforms are not meant to be an arbitrator of truth, and yet, in putting those fact checking flags on some of these tweets, they are doing just that, which mark zuckerberg has stressed, facebook does not want to be in the business of doing. >> yeah, it's going to be super interesting. we'll look for that executive order maybe a little bit later on kayla, thanks so much. kayla tausche in washington for us today coming up, secretary of state mike pompeo says the u.s. no longer considers h

thanks >> i guess my starting question would be whether you agree with what mark zuckerberg said there, that twitter has gone as far as making itself an arbiter of truth. >> what he's wanted to focus on more is what b facebook has done in this area and the way that things work in content review. that there are issues of imminent harm, where even political figures can have speech taken down. it should be, it is and should be an extraordinarily rare event and it has to be on an issue of imminent harm and facebook has approached it that way, which is quite different but this is a new movement for them and so we'll see how that develops over time >> chris, is it possible and fair in your eyes to continue in a way where you say we're not going to get involved in any way on political speech. but we are going to take some posts down if they break certain rules this morning in his interview with andrew ross sorkin, zuckerberg cited on health issues, for example is that a legitimate position to have, where you can say we'll get involved and decide whether this is legitimate in one area and not

i think mark zuckerberg statement was a disgrace.y already have a business model to make money, not to convey facts. >> dana: and yet, there is a point about free speech. who gets to decide? shouldn't just be open for everybody to comment? >> the first amendment text twitter from the president, not the president from twitter. twitter owns that platform. nancy pelosi makes a good point. they want to be left alone from the government and they don't want to be taxed and may be something we should be looking to. i don't disagree with a lot of what they said. when they are starting to fact-check, they've got to be very careful to fact-check everybody. but this is not a violation of the presidents free-speech. the president still left those up there. the american people are quite annoyed and the president of the united states is picking a fight with twitter, the very platform that made him president. i don't understand how he gets away with it. i don't understand how people still support him in the face of that. >> dana: i just want to put

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dana perino had a chance to sit down with facebook ceo mark zuckerberg.ter? here is what he said. essentially mark zuckerberg said, no we're not. we don't consider facebook to the arbiter of truth. so now we're in this situation where the president and many republicans are saying anti-conservative voices are silenced on social media and they want to make changes to prevent that from happening especially as we're months away from the november election, stuart. stuart: by the way, see the full interview, dana perino with mark zuckerberg. that is at 2:00 on the fox news channel this afternoon. i think i will call this, yes i will call this a sign of hope for sports fans. a major nfl team given the go-ahead to start practicing. not the same story for a different league however. we'll bring you up to league on all the sports in a moment. >>> president trump looking to fulfill a campaign promise bringing our troops home from afghanistan. we're going to discuss that next. >> we're there 19 years. we want to bring our soldiers back home. we want to bring them bac

twitter ceo jack dorsey responded to zuckerberg, by the way. pop that up on the stream, it's a quote. "this does not make us an arbiter of truth. our intention is to connect the dots of conflicting statements and show the information in dispute so people can judge for themselves. more transparency from us is critical so folks can clearly see the why behind our actions." be not, what your reaction beyonit tothat? >> guy: i think zuckerberg has largely correct, i'm looking forward to that interview with dana perino later today. there's a pandora's box been opened by twitter with their decision to fact-check president trump. there will now be endless questions about who gets fact-checked when, why, who makes those decisions. we've already seen conservatives online finding some of the folks at twitter tasked with this job who have posted extremely anti-conservative on their own twitter feeds, comparing the trump administration to literally nazis. these are some of the people we've seen on the committee for integrity at twitter. that creates a p.r.

you see what facebook's zuckerberg is saying today about all of this. tax cuts, no regulation.s model is to misrepresent the facts and to be a platform to do that. >> harris: more on this coming in "the daily briefing," or "the odd daily briefing, close it with kayleigh mcenany. coming up after 2:00 this afternoon. harris? >> harris: all right, john, thank you very much. i want to bring in ari fleischer, former white house press secretary for president george w. bush and fox news contributor. first of all, i want to get your topline reaction about the battle between the president and fact-checking his tweets, and jack dorsey of twitter. >> well, i will always come down on the side of more free speech is best. twitter is a private company. they can be as dumb as they want to be, and they've proved it to everyone how dumb they can be. this was so incredibly stupid of twitter to do this, whether it was president trump's tweet or anybody else's tweet. you just played a clip where jack dorsey, the president of twitter, says he wants to "connect the dots." good luck, jack. everything

mark zuckerberg.ark, good to see you. >> good to see you, too, thanks for having me. >> o'donnell: what makes this new feature unique? >> covid has not been just a health emergency, it's been a real economic crisis putting a lot of strain on small businesses. what we are seeing are a lot of small businesses are moving more of their business online and we want to make it easier for them to do that, too. so facebook shops allows a small business to easily set up a shop inside our apps and it will be a very fast experience for people to discover their products and be able to buy things directly. >> reporter: privacy is always a big question. will my friends know when i buy something on facebook shops. >> no, we're not telling anyone what your buying or shopping history across our services without your permission, and that's not really a big part of this experience. this is really more about people being able to connect with the small businesses that they care about. >> o'donnell: there was a conspiracy v

can you catch more of dana perino's interview with mark zuckerberg at 2:00 p.m.astern time on "the daily briefing." rob: you know when this shuttle launch this week everyone is talking about space. it sounds like tom cruise could be going up there as well. carley: tom cruise wants to make a movie on the international space station. check out this quote from nasa chief giving it the green light saying nasa has been in talks with tom cruise. we will do everything we can to make it a successful mission including opening up the international space station. how crazy is that? this twitter user can't believe it as well saying i can't believe this is about to happen. this is the future. and e. andy also chiming in the technology we have right now why would you need to make a movie in space. i don't get it. well, andy, just because it's cool. back to you. jillian: what other reason do you need other than being cool. rob: i'm so jealous. would you group there if you had the shot? carley: sure, why not. rob: carley, thanks. jillian: we have got to go. "fox & friends" start

i think mark zuckerberg will go down in history and if you look at the last five years, you look at the kale of their platform and the hands-off approach and you will say to yourself they have no control over this monster that they've built and his hands-on approach won't be viewed favorably and in the online sales thing, when you talk about the total number the president was talking about. facebook and google have a monopoly twitter expects you to do $3.3 million in sales in 2020 and that's more than the entire online ad market in the u.s. to me, when the guy turns that there's a lot of bluster and i don't success you can go offer, any softness that you see in the stock in thoory should be pate >> we have seen bloodstreamer and we've seen attacks on entities that at times the administration stragsz, those have largely been buying opportunities. the doj attack that seemed to have been inspired by the administration seemed to be moments to by. looking at the run facebook has had in the last 48 hours of the headlines and it was an extraordinary run by facebook that not only showed amazing

watch zuckerberg with fox news's dana perino? no i believe strongly facebook shouldn't be the arbiter of truth that everything people say online. in general private companies, shouldn't be, especially platform companies shouldn't be in the position of doing that. elizabeth: but house speaker nancy pelosi is saying mark zuckerberg is pandering to the white house. wants tax cuts. your reaction to that? i want your take reopening the economy. go ahead, kevin. >> honestly let's go back to the first thing we talked about. it is pretty sensible if they're exercising editorial control they should be treated like a thing that exercises editorial control. if they're platform of free exchanges of free speech and they're not exercising editorial control and they could be treated the way they are being treated perhaps. suck mark zuckerberg, that is discussion of future discussion but i think he is correct, that as soon as they start going around acting like a publication, perhaps they should be treated as a publication. elizabeth: okay. reop

now on bbc news in his first uk broadcast interview in five years, facebook founder mark zuckerberg talkstor simon jack about fake news, fact checking, and the upcoming us presidential election. are there some permanent changes that you perceive from this and what do you think that your company's role has been during this crisis? sure, so... right now, we are mostly focused on helping people get through this period before worrying about what the longer changes are but we focused on three main areas. one is responding to the acute health crisis. the second is helping people stay connected with the people they care about, especially now since a lot of us are at home and can't go out and see our families and the people we love. so you are seeing internet use and communication app use go up a lot and there's a lot that we need to do there. and then the third area is on economic recovery. so, right now, we're seeing a lot of pain for small businesses having a hard time staying open as a lot of people are staying home. that means millions of people are losing jobs and i think anything we can do

facebook ceo mark zuckerberg saying that executive order is the wrong move. >> have to understand what they intend to do but in general i think the government choosing to censor a platform because they are worried about censorship doesn't exactly strike me as the right reflex there. >> and publicly the president acknowledged this is likely headed to a court but with this overnight tweet and the sensitive situation with the violence in minnesota you can expect to hear a lot more about this this morning. jillian: i'm sure we will. todd: college student awaiting extradition to connecticut. peter manfredonia appearing in a courtroom from jail, he was arrested after walking out of the woods near a truckstop, authorities received a tip he was in the area, led police to the gun that was used in one of those murders. jillian: a rookie police officer shot and killed in the line of duty, the officer responding to a domestic violence call when the suspect opened fire through the door. the police chief morning the

mark zuckerberg actually told c. and b. c. this morning i know you know it's coming it is not think social networks should be fact checking what politicians post however his platform as you just mentioned fact checks journalists it and i think i have a broader question about this band which is this a little bit of twitter versus facebook that we've never really seen in the public eye we only see it when it comes to these policies is that what's going on here i think that's part of it look mark that one of the the other differences between twitter versus facebook on the issue of politicians is that twitter makes almost no revenue from political ads and facebook makes about half a $1000000000.00 in one year from political ads there's a big difference in terms of revenue facebook always a half a 1000000000 that's nothing for us but they don't act like it's nothing and the idea make your head explode by thinking about this mark zuckerberg says politicians don't need to be fact checked but journalists have to be fact checked by non

>> ali, i think mark zuckerberg has lost the plot here. you know, the notion that facebook doesn't moderate speech on its platform is ridiculous. they took down the lincoln project advertisement that was anti-trump. they have every day the algorithms used to determine what people see. it is nonsense. >> thanks to both of you for being with me. roger mcnamee. jennifer grygiel. thanks to both of you. when we come back, we are joined by the reverend al sharpton who was here in minneapolis a couple of days ago. he has been working with the family and some protesters. also joining me is roland martin who went to the same high school as george floyd growing up. they are with us on the other side. you're watching msnbc. her side you're watching msnbc. ♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier. overnight, they became our offices, schools and playgrounds. all those places out there are now in here. that's why we're still offering fast, free two day shipping on thousands of items. even the big stuff. and doing everything it takes to ensure your safety. so

speaker pelosi today ripped mark zuckerberg.een taking it on the chin, even joe biden, things that they should take down. president trump's campaign ads or posts or speech, his tweets that are cross promoted on facebook. this is in some ways what president trump is doing, you could maybe see there would be some bipartisan support. but for very different reasons. they both hate it. i think it's a slippery slope for conservatives. i know the communications act of 1996, it's 25 years old and may be a does need a little bit of updating but i also think of these companies don't have that protection, censoring will be a much more likely thing because there will -- they will be liable for all sorts of things. it's probably better to let it all go. >> jesse: i'm not so sure about that. if you could maybe target the regulation a little bit better. gutfeld, what do you think? do you think it's going to hurt the president? or do you think twitter might've stepped in it and might regret what they have done? >> greg: i don't know. trump love

mark zuckerberg weighing in on the debate this morning.laining his stance on political speech >> let me be clear about what we do for misinformation, more broadly, we have program to make sure that the things that are spreading virally on facebook aren't complete made up hoaxes if you look at whatever the top thousands or 10,000 links being shared in a given day, some of the stuff that people share on the internet is real junk. try to parse words on is something true or false. it's really catch the worst of the worst stuff. in terms of political speech, i think you want to give broad deference to the political process and political speech >> gentlemen, good to see you both andrew, i'll start off with you since you landed that interview. do you get the sense this is a move on principle, a belief in principle or the effort to preserve protection under section 230 of the communication decency act? >> i think it's a bit of both if we're being honest i think that clearly mark zuckerberg has staked out a lane where he's said that the second they

now, mark zuckerberg has said that he's not into this at all. he's not into flagging anybody's tweets -- >> he's right. liz: you see what happened with twitter. but you know, mark zuckerberg is a little disingenuous because he acts like facebook is a utility like the phone company and he says well, you know, we don't listen in on people's phone calls and then we wouldn't, if somebody lied on a phone call, we wouldn't ban them from using our pipes. but you know, these are tweets and facebook postings that are out there and if they are incorrect or, for example, absolutely hateful or in spite, i guess, if they inspire violence, right, that's where it becomes illegal. >> yeah. i'm not exactly sure where that line is supposed to be drawn or whether it should be drawn anywhere. i think that technology can improve the entire platform. i mean, i would think facebook and twitter and whoever else could be working very hard to create a platform where the things that are true or perceived to be true by the general population would rise to the top and thing

mr zuckerberg's been talking to our business editor, simonjack.om this, and what do you think that your company's role has been during the crisis? we've focused on three main areas. one is responding to the acute health crisis. the second is helping people stay connected with the people they care about. and then the third area is on economic recovery. so right now we're seeing a lot of pain for small businesses. they're having a hard time staying open as a lot of people are staying home, and that means millions of people are losing jobs, and i think anything that we can do to help small businesses survive. if some crazy person decided to start telling people to, i don't know, drink or inject bleach or saying colloidal silver would be a good way of keeping the virus at bay, what is the facebook algorithm's response to that? things like saying that something is a proven cure for the virus when in fact it is not, we will take that down. another example which i know has been very prevalent in the uk has been 5g misinformation, which has led to some ph

i think mark zuckerberg's statement was a disgrace. and twitter, they're not taking off any accusations the president is making about joe scarborough. they know that's not true. they do a token thing and think it's okay. again, i don't know if there's honor among thieves but that's the -- they only have a business model to make money, not to convey facts. that's what they're about. again, i see it as a distraction from what is the challenge at hand, which is to save lives. and every day the president comes up with another stunt, and every day airwaves are full of that stunt without holding him fully accountable for the lives that are lost because we don't have under his leadership an appropriate testing. we do in the h.e.r.o.e.s. act. h.e.r.o.e.s. act has a robust, rapid testing where we're reaching out to underserved communities. areas of color which are seriously affected disproportionately. we're saying that we're going to test, we're going to trace, we're going to treat, we're going to save lives as we engage in isolation and the r