commissioner zvanski? >> dr. follansbee, don't you believe that a lot of what is going on is -- i hate to call us deferred maintenance. but a lot of people have been deferring physician visits and also maybe postponing surgeries and other kind of processings, so that we may have a surge once we're sort of back to not being as restricted and that will have a surge then in claims? >> president follansbee: i totally expect this to happen. a lot of projections about what this might look like. but i think that mr. loo's response is exactly right. we don't know for our population exactly. >> right. yeah. and he's the money guy and you're the science guy. [laughter] we have -- and i'm really grateful that the discussions have been happening. what i wondered is sometimes when we get the finance report, we also take a look at the budget issue with regard to our office. and i just wanted to know what the status is with the budget going forward and where we are in that? or did i miss -- is it somewhere else in the material?