GET BACK TO ALISYN.
>> ALL RIGHT, CHRIS.
THE POPE'S VISIT RAISING LOTS OF
QUESTIONS.
LET'S TRY TO GET ANSWERS.
JOINING US ON THE PHONE IS GOP
FRONT-RUNNER DONALD TRUMP.
GOOD MORNING, MR. TRUMP.
>> HI, ALISYN.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE POPE'S
VISIT. LET'S START THERE.
THE POPE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT
ONE OF YOUR SIGNATURE ISSUES AND
THAT OF COURSE IS IMMIGRATION.
THE POPE HAS A DIFFERENT TAKE ON
IMMIGRANTS.
HE IN FACT SPOKE OUT TO PEOPLE
WHO MIGHT NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE
TO IMMIGRANTS.
LET ME JUST READ HIS SORT OF
POIGNANT WORDS.
THE POPE SAID YESTERDAY, PERHAPS
IT WILL NOT BE EASY FOR YOU TO
LOOK INTO THEIR SOULS.
PERHAPS YOU WILL BE CHALLENGED
BY THEIR DIVERSITY.
BUT KNOW THAT THEY ALSO POSSESS
RESOURCES MEANT TO BE SHARED SO
DO NOT BE AFRAID TO WELCOME
THEM. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE POPE'S
WORDS?
>> I THINK HIS WORDS ARE
BEAUTIFUL.
I RESPECT THE POPE AND I LIKE
THE POPE VERY MUCH.
I WILL SAY THIS WE HAVE A
COUNTRY THAT IS GOING THROUGH
TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS.
WE OWE $19 TRILLION SO NUMBER
ONE, WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS
PROCESS. WE HAVE TREMENDOUS CRIME
PROBLEMS AS YOU KNOW THE
ILLEGAL IMGRANTS ARE COMING IN.
YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT SAN
FRANCISCO AND SO MANY OTHER
INSTANCES, CALIFORNIA WHERE A
WOMAN WAS ABSOLUTELY DECIMATED,
KILLED BY AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
A VETERAN, AT 66 YEARS OF AGE,
BY THE WAY. AND MANY THOUSANDS OF CASES,
WE'RE HAVING TREMENDOUS CRIME
WAVES. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS COMING
IN. DRUGS POURING OVER THE BORDERS.
WE HAVE TO SEAL OUR BORDERS.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
PEOPLE LIKE MY PLAN VERY MUCH
AND I THINK IT'S A PLAN THAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR PLAN
IT'S A TWO-PARTER.
YOU TALK ABOUT BUILDING A WALL.
>> BUILDING A WALL THAT'S
RIGHT. >> THEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEPORTING
11 TO 12 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED
IMMIGRANTS -- ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS. >> ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS LIVING
HERE. THAT'S THE PART THAT YOU'VE NOT
BEEN TERRIBLY SPECIFIC ABOUT.
HOW WOULD YOU SPECIFICALLY GO
ABOUT DOING 11 MILLION MASS
DEPORTATIONS? >> THROUGH GOOD MANAGEMENT AND
THROUGH A PROCESS.
AND THE PROCESS IS THE BAD ONES
GOER AND THEY NEVER COME BACK.
THEY'RE NEVER COMING BACK.
>> YES. >> REALLY GOOD ONES AND THERE
ARE MANY THEY WILL GO AND THEY
WILL COME BACK LEGALLY.
THEY WILL COME BACK ON AN
EXPEDITED SYSTEM. AND THEY'LL COME BACK LEGALLY,
ALISYN. YOU GO INTO THE 1950s, DWIGHT
EISENHOWER WHO WAS A RESPECTED
PRESIDENT WAS DOING THE SAME
THING. HE HAD TO GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS. HE DID THAT.
IT WAS DONE IN THE 1950s BY
DWIGHT EISENHOWER. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IT
LOOKS LIKE NOWADAYS.
WOULD YOU USE THE NATIONAL
GUARD? THE POLICE THE ARMY?
>> I WOULD USE A DIFFERENT WAY,
DONE DIFFERENTLY AND WARMLY AND
HUE
HUMANLY.
YOU KNOW I HAD A GOOD HISPANIC
POLL THE OTHER DAY, THE HISPANICS, THE ONES THAT ARE
HERE LEGALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS WHERE EVERYONE IS POURING
INTO THE COUNTRY ILLEGAL.
YOU USE THE WORD ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS
YOU'RE ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL.
LET PEOPLE IN BUT THEY'RE COMING
IN LEGALLY.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT OUR HISTORY IS
WITH UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS,
THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN JOBS.
THEY OFTEN PAY TAXES.
>> ALISYN THEY'RE COMING BACK
IN BUT THEY'RE COMING BACK IN
LEGALLY. >> BUT, MR. TRUMP, I WANT YOU TO
SPECIFICALLY EXPLAIN HOW YOU ARE
GOING TO GET RID OF THEM?
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS HARKENS TO
WHAT IT REMINDS ME AT LEAST OF
REMEMBER THE INDICATION OF
ILLEGALILL
ILLIAN
ILLIAN GONZALEZ HE WAS SPLASHED
ALL OVER THE MEDIA, IT GRIPPED
THE NATION BECAUSE YOU WATCHED
FEDERAL AGENTS PULL THIS BOY
FROM HIS FAMILY.
ARE YOU GOING TO SEPARATE
FAMILIES?
>> NO WE'RE NOT SEPARATING
FAMILIES.
WE'RE TAKING THE FAMILIES AND
TAKING THEM AS A UNITS.
WE DID IT AS DWIGHT EISENHOWER
DID IT WITH OVER 1 MILLION
PEOPLE IN THE 1950.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
DONE -- NOW, WE'RE A POLITICALLY
CORRECT SOCIETY.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
WE'RE MORE ABOUT -- WE'RE A
SOCIETY THAT CAN'T DO ANYTHING
ABOUT IT ANYMORE.
WE CAN'T FUNCTION ANYMORE.
WE HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN
THE COUNTRY -- LISTEN THEY'RE
NOT PAYING TAXES.
THEY'RE TAKING JOBS FROM OTHER
PEOPLE. WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT
DESPERATELY NEEDS JOBS.
THEY'RE TAKING JOBS FROM OTHER
PEOPLE.
>> MILLIONS ARE PAYING TAXES.
>> ALISYN WHAT I'M SAYING IS
THIS IT STARTS WITH WE BUILD A
WALL.
AND THE WALL WILL BE VERY EASILY
BUILT AND A VERY EFFECTIVE WALL.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE A BIG OPEN
GATE. AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME
INTO THE COUNTRY THROUGH THAT
GATE. THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN
LEGALLY.
IT'S GOING TO BE A COUNTRY
THAT'S RUN WITH A BORDER.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE
POURING DRUGS ACROSS THE BORDER.
CARTELS ARE BRINGING DRUGS
ACROSS THE BORDER.
>> NO ONE WANTS THE CRIMINAL
ASPECT. YOU'RE WITH EVERYONE.
>> BY THE WAY, DO YOU KNOW THAT
THE GANGS THAT YOU SEE, ALL OF
THESE TERRIBLE GANGS THAT YOU
SEE. MANY OF THOSE GANGS ARE MADE UP
OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
AND THEY'RE TOUGH DUDES.
BY THE WAY, THEY'RE GOING DAY
ONE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF HERE
DAY ONE. THE REST IS THE GOOD PEOPLE
THEY'RE GOING AND COMING BACK IN
AN EXPEDITED WAY.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK
LEGALLY.
YOU WATCH WITH GOOD MANAGEMENT
HOW NICELY THAT WILL WORK.
>> OKAY WE WILL WAIT TO SEE
WHAT YOUR SPECIFIC STRATEGY IS
FOR THAT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT ANOTHER TOPIC
THAT THE POPE HAS TALKED ABOUT
AND THAT'S CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE POPE HAS SAID HE IS CLEAR
THAT THIS IS SAY PROBLEM THAT
CANNOT BE LEFT TO A FUTURE
GENERATION.
DO YOU AGREE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE
SAY PRESSING PROBLEM?
>> NO. I THINK THAT CLEAN AIR IS A
PRESSING PROBLEM.
YOU WANT TO HAVE CLEAN AIR, YOU
WANT TO HAVE CLEAN WATER, THAT'S
VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND I'VE WON MANY ENVIRONMENTAL
AWARDS. I AM NOT A BELIEVER IN CLIMATE
CHANGE. IT'S GONE GLOBAL WARMING AND
CLIMATE CHANGE NOW THEY CULL IT
EXTREME WEATHER. THAT'S THE NEW ONE BECAUSE
WEATHER TENDS TO BE A LITTLE
MORE EXTREME.
A LOT OF THE BIG BLOODS AND BIG
THINGS. 1890 THEY HAVE THE GREATEST
FLOOD.
1904 THE GREATEST RAINSTORM.
YOU KNOW LOOK.
IT'S WEATHER.
I CAN'T WATCH THE EVENING NEWS
ANYMORE. EVERY TIME YOU TURN ON THE
EVENING NEWS THEY SHOW THERE'S
A BIG RAINSTORM.
THERE'S A TORNADO THERE'S THIS.
I MEAN YOU CAN'T WATCH THE NEWS
ANYMORE, IT'S ALWAYS WEATHER.
AND FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY
FOR SO LONG HONESTLY WEATHER
E STORMS AND YOU HAVE
RAIN AND YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL
DAYS. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE
SHOULD IMPERIL THE PEOPLE IN OUR
COUNTRIES, BY THE WAY, CHINA IS
DOING NOTHING.
YOU LOOK AT THESE OTHER
COUNTRIES, THEY'RE DOING
NOTHING. ALL THEY DO TALK.
WE'RE GOING TO IMPERIL, ACTUALLY
THE MIDDLE CLASS AND LOWER
CLASSES PEOPLE WITH NO MONEY ARE
GOING TO BE IMPERILED BY DOING
THIS BECAUSE IT COSTS SO MUCH.
NOBODY KNOWS EXACTLY IF IT'S
GOING TO WORK. YOU HAVE SCIENTISTS -- I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER A NUMBER OF
YEARS AGO IN EUROPE, THE
SCIENTISTS WERE PASSING AROUND
E-MAILS AND NOTES TO EACH OTHER
TALKING ABOUT WHAT A HOAX IT IS.
>> LOOK.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO
THE EAST ANGLO SCIENTISTS --
>> I MEAN IN CLEAN AIR, CLEAN
WATER.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD
DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.
IF WE HAVE CLIMATE CHANGE OR
GLOBAL WARMING, IT'S GOING TO BE
OF THE NUCLEAR FORM BECAUSE WE
HAVE INCOMPETENT POLITICIANS
WATCHING OVER US. THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM.
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT GLOBAL
WARMING IS MAN-MADE AND YOU
DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A PRESSING
PROBLEM.
IT'S GOOD TO GET YOU DOWN THE
RECORD WITH THAT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE POLLS.
THERE'S A QUINNIPIAC POLL JUST
OUT AT 6:00 A.M. THIS MORNING,
BASICALLY WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT
YOUR LEAD HAS SLIPPED A BIT.
BEFORE THE CNN DEBATE IN AUGUST
YOU WERE AT 28%.
NOW, YOU'RE AT 25%.
YOU'RE OF COURSE THE
REPUBLICAN FRONT-RUNNER.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE PEOPLE CATCHING UP WITH YOU.
BEN CARSON WAS AT 7% NOW AT
17%. KFL KFL AT 12%.
JEB BUSH HAS GONE FROM 7 TO 10%.
MARCO RUBIO, 7% TO 9%.
DO YOU THINK YOUR LEAD IS
SLIPPING? >> NO I DON'T.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NBC POLL
IT'S A MUCH BIGGER MARGIN.
IF YOU LOOK AT ZOGBY OR REUTERS,
I DON'T THINK I HEARD YOUR
STATEMENT, IS IT SLIPPING I
KNOW YOU WANT TO GET PEOPLE TO
WATCH.
IT'S INTERESTING YOUR REPORTER
IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHO IS
ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. SHE COVERED MY SPEECH.
I MADE A SPEECH TO THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
AND THE ROOM WAS FULL.
EVERY SEAT WAS FULL.
WHEN I WENT TO THE STAGE,
EVERYBODY RUSHED FORWARD.
THEY ALL RUSHED TO THE FRONT OF
THE ROOM.
IT WAS A BALLROOM.
THEY ALL RUSHED TO THE FRONT OF
THE ROOM. WHEN YOU DID THAT YOU HAD HALF
OF THE SEATS IN THE BACK WERE
EMPTY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS
STANDING IN THE FRONT.
WE HAD A GREAT TIME.
IT WAS LIKE A GREAT THING.
SHE STARS OFF, THE CNN REPORTER
ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE REPORTER
SHE STARTS OFF SAYING OH LOOK
THE ROOM IS HALF EMPTY.
THE ROOM WASN'T HALF EMPTY,
EVERYBODY WAS STANDING NEXT TO
ME.
YOU CAN TELL JEFF ZUCKER I
THINK IT WAS TERRIBLE
DISGUSTING REPORTING.
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD HER
SAY, WHAT I HEARD HER SAY ABOUT
THE SOUTH CAROLINA EVENT WHAT
WAS SURPRISING IT WAS MOSTLY
WHITE PEOPLE THIS WAS THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE BUT IT WAS POPULATED
MOSTLY BY A WHITE AUDIENCE.
>> WELL THEY HAD MANY
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND MANY WHITE
PEOPLE TOO.
THE ROOM WAS FULL.
THEY ALL RUSHED TO THE FRONT
WHICH WAS A GREAT HONOR.
I LET THEM STAND THERE THE WHOLE
SPEECH. SHE SHOWED EMPTY SEATS, WELL OF
COURSE THERE WERE EMPTY SEATS
BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE STANDING IN
THE FRONT OF THE ROOM.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER HIT JOB.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
HONESTLY ALISYN A TERRIBLE
REPORTER. >> MR. TRUMP, I THINK SHE'S A
WONDERFUL REPORTER. >> WE DISAGREE.
>> WE DO.
>>> GOVERNOR HUCKABEE SAID ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT WHAT HE FOUND THE
MOST DISTURBING THING FOR HIM
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE
IN LINE WITH THE POPE'S VALUES
WHO WERE INVITED TO SEAT POPE IN
WASHINGTON, D.C.
AN OPENLY GAY EPISCOPAL BISHOP
TRANSGENDER ACTIVIST A NUN WHO
IS AN ACTIVIST.
LET ME PLAY TO YOU WHAT MIKE
HUCKABEE SAID ABOUT QUESTIONING
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FAITH.
>> I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT A
GUY THAT BELIEVES HE'S A
CHRISTIAN AND PRETENDS TO BE AND
THEN SAYS HE IS BUT THEN DOES
THINGS THAT MAKES IT VERY
DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO PRACTICE
THEIR CHRISTIAN FAITH.
I'M DISAPPOINTED IF A PERSON
SAYS I'M A CHRISTIAN, BUT YOU
INVITE THE POPE INTO YOUR HOME
AND THEN YOU INVITE A WHOLE
BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AT ODDS
WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
POLICY."
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE
STATEMENTS?
>> WELL YOU KNOWERY --
I'M DOING VERY WELL WITH
EVANGELICALS. AND I SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH
EVANGELICALS. I MUST TELL YOU, MANY
EVANGELICALS FEEL THE WAY MIKE
DO.
MANY DO.
THEY FEEL THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA
HAS NOT BEEN GOOD WITH
CHRISTIANITY. HE'S STOPPING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
TO AN EXTENT.
THEY FEEL VERY HURT BY THE
PRESIDENT.
MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST WORD OR
DISAPPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT,
HAVING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY.
MIKE IS EXPRESSING HIMSELF.
I SEE THAT WHEN I'M OUT ON THE
TRAIL AND I'M MEETING WITH
EVANGELICALS.
I'M LEADING EVERY POLL IN IOWA
EVERYWHERE WITH EVANGELICALS.
THEY FEEL VERY DISAPPOINTED BY
THE PRESIDENT WHAT MIKE IS
SAYING IS NOT SURPRISING FOR ME
TO HEAR.
AND IT'S A VERY STRONG
STATEMENT. >> IT IS.
>> IN MAKING SPEECHES TO
THOUSANDS OF EVANGELICALS
TAKING QUESTIONS THEY'RE VERY
HURT BY THE PRESIDENT, THERE'S
NO QUESTION.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT
OBAMA IS PRETENDING TO BE A
CHRISTIAN? >> I DON'T GET INVOLVED IN
PEOPLE'S FAITH, ALISYN.
IT'S NOT FOR ME TO DISCUSS HIS
FAITH. THAT'S FOR HIM TO DISCUSS.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING
ON WITH YOU AND FOX NEWS.
WHY ARE YOU IN THIS SPAT WITH
THEM? >> WELL ONLY BECAUSE FOX NEWS
HAS NOT TREATED ME FAIRLY.
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
HOW SO?
>> EXCUSE ME SPEAKING OF POLLS
I THINK THEY JUST ANNOUNCED A
POLL THIS MORNING OR SOMETHING.
TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I'M
NUMBER ONE IN THAT POLL WHICH IS
AN INTERESTING LITTLE -- AND BY
A LOT OF.
WHICH SAN INTERESTING DICHOTOMY.
BUT FOX NEWS HAS NOT TREATED ME
FAIRLY.
CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE NOT.
THEY HAVE PUNDITS ON THE SHOW.
ONE OF THEM MADE A TOTAL FOOL
LAST NIGHT. HE TOTALLY LOST IT.
I WATCHED IT.
IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS HAVING A
NERVOUS BREAKDOWN ON TELEVISION.
AN HE USED WORDS THAT ARE SO
UNBELIEVABLE MAYBE HE'LL BE
FINED. A GUY NAMED RICH LOWERY WHO I
NEVER EVEN HEARD OF.
BUT HE SAID SOMETHING THAT I'VE
NEVER HEARD ON TELEVISION
BEFORE. I WAS SHOCKED.
BUT HE LOST IT.
IT WAS WONDERFUL WATCHING THIS
GUY LOSE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
HE'S A BAD GUY.
BUT THEY ARE NOT FAIR TO TO ME.
AND I'VE EXPRESSED IT TO THEM.
THEY UNDERSTAND.
FOR INSTANCE THEY WON'T PUT UP
CERTAIN POLL NUMBERS.
AND THE POLL NUMBERS ARE
PHENOMENAL. I SAY WHY AREN'T YOU PUTTING
THOSE NUMBERS?
WELL WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT UP
THE NUMBERS.
AND THE POLL NUMBERS --
>> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT, THE REASON I DONE WANT TO
USE IT IT'S AN ONLINE SURVEY
THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW SORT OF
CONSIDERED ONE OF THE LEGITIMATE
POLLS, THE GO-TO POLLS THAT WE
USE. BACK TO FOX FOR A SECOND.
YOU SAY THEY'RE TREATING YOU
UNFAIRLY. DO YOU NOT WANT TO HEAR OTHER
VOICES WHO CRITICIZE YOU?
>> I DO. I DO.
I DON'T MIND BEING CRITICIZED.
AND I DON'T MIND IT AT ALL.
AND I WON'T USE NAMES AND
THERE'S CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO
CRITICIZE UNFAIRLY.
IF I DO SOMETHING WRONG, ALISYN
I HAVE VERY THICK SKIN.
I DON'T MIND BEING CRITICIZED.
I'M A SMART PERSON.
I DO THINKS WRONG, WHETHER I DO
SIGH DON'T MIND THEY CAN COME
AT ME 15 DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT WHEN I'M RIGHT OR WHEN I
DON'T DESERVE SOMETHING.
I THINK IT'S VERY VERY UNFAIR
TO SPEAK INCORRECTLY.
>> YEAH.
>> SO I WILL CORRECT PEOPLE.
I BELIEVE IN THAT.
>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE DONE A
LOT OF THINGS WRONG, WHAT'S THE
LAST THING YOU'VE DONE WRONG IN
THIS CAMPAIGN?
>> UM -- WELL I DON'T KNOW.
I'D RATHER NOT GET INTO THAT.
I'M SURE I'VE MADE MISTAKES.
I'M LEADING IN EVERY SINGLE
POLL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE
FLORIDA POLL THAT CAME OUT, I'M
ABSOLUTELY KILL BURKSH AND RUBIO,
AND IT'S THEIR STATE.
I DON'T KNOW?
I GUESS THERE ARE THINGS I COULD
HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY.
LOOK I HAVE A VERY SIMPLE THEME.
I WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT
AGAIN.
WE'RE RUN BY INCOMPETENT PEOPLE.
53 INCOMPETENT PEOPLE RUNNING
THIS COUNTRY LED BY THE MAN AT
THE TOP.
WE CAN DO SUCH GOOD THINGS TO
MAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.
>> I KNOW YOUR SLOGAN
MR. TRUMP, IS MAKE AMERICA
GREAT. I'M CURIOUS, WHEN WAS AMERICA
GREAT? IN YOUR MIND WHEN WAS THE
HEYDAY? WHEN WAS THE YEAR THAT AMERICA
WAS GREAT?
>> WELL IT'S BEEN HURT BADLY.
HONESTLY BEFORE THIS PRESIDENT,
TOO.
GOING INTO IRAQ WAS A TREMENDOUS
MISTAKE. BY THE WAY, I WAS THE ONLY ONE
WITH A VISION OF ALL OF THESE
CANDIDATES -- I WAS THE ONE WITH
THE VISION DON'T DO IT.
BUT GOING INTO IRAQ WAS A
TREMENDOUS MISTAKE FOR OUR
COUNTRY. IT DESTABILIZED THE MIDDLE EAST.
AND THAT WAS BUSH'S ROLE.
IT DESTABILIZED THE MIDDLE EAST.
AND IRAN IS TAKING OVER IRAQ
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OFF THE
MASSIVE OIL RESERVES BY THE
WAY, ISIS HAS A GOOD CHUNK OF
THEM TOO.
THAT WAS A BAD MISTAKE.
>> YOU ARE ON THE RECORD ABOUT
THAT. >> WE SPENT $2 TRILLION INSTEAD
OF REBUILDING OUR COUNTRY WE
SPENT TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
THOUSANDS OF WOUNDED WARRIORS
WHO I LOVE.
>> PRIOR TO THE IRAQ WAR, ARE
YOU SAYING THE CLINTON YEARS IS
WHEN AMERICA WAS GREAT?
>> I WOULD SAY REAGAN CLINTON.
WE DIDN'T -- THE COUNTRY WASN'T
DECIMATED LIKE IT IS NOW.
THE COUNTRY DIDN'T OWE $19
TRILLION ALISON.
THE COUNTRY -- RIGHT NOW, WE'RE
$1.5 TRILLION TO CHINA, WE SO
$1.5 TRILLION TO JAPAN.
THINK OF IT THEY SUCK OUR MONEY
OUT. AND WE OWE THEM.
IT'S LIKE A MAGIC TRICK.
WE OWE THEM $1.5 TRILLION.
>> BACK TO FOX NEWS DON'T YOU
NEED FOX NEWS AND VIEWERS TO WIN
IT?
>> I DON'T KNOW I'M ON "60
MINUTES" SUNDAY. IT'S A VERY POWERFUL SHOW.
I WENT ON STEVEN KOLPHEN COLBERT THE
OTHER NIGHT. AND HE KILLED THE RATINGS.
IT WAS MASSIVE RATINGS.
IT DILL THE "TONIGHT SHOW."
>> I WATCHED THAT.
HE SERVED YOU UP A BIG OLD
MEATBALL OF A SOFTBALL TO ASK
YOU ONCE AND FOR ALL, YOU
BELIEVE PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS BORN
IN THE UNITED STATES NOW THAT
YOU HAVE SEEN HIS BIRTH
CERTIFICATE.
AND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER
THAT. WHY NOT? >> NO.
I TALK ABOUT JOBS I TALK ABOUT
OUR MILITARY HELPING OUR VETS.
I DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT
QUESTION.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WON'T
TALK ABOUT ANYMORE.
EVERY TIME PEOPLE GET ON THAT
QUESTION THAT'S ALL THEY WANT
TO TALK ABOUT, THE BIRTH
CERTIFICATE, WAS IT REAL WAS IT
NOT REAL?
ALL THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS
THAT. SO I DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
WHAT I TALK ABOUT JOBS OUR VETS
WHO, BY THE WAY, ARE LIVING LIKE
THIRD CLASS CITIZENS AND I'LL
STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
I TALK ABOUT MANY OTHER THINGS
TRADE, BUT NOT THAT SUBJECT.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SCOTT
WALKER. HE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE AS
YOU KNOW.
HE SUGGESTED THAT PEOPLE IN THE
BOTTOM TIER FOLLOW HIS LEAD AND
ALSO DROP OUT SO THAT SOMEONE
ELSE CAN COALESCE AS A
FRONT-RUNNER TO BEAT YOU.
LET ME PLAY FOR YOU WHAT SCOTT
WALKER SAID.
>> I ENCOURAGE OTHER REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TO
CONSIDER DOING THE SAME.
SO THAT THE VOTERS CAN FOCUS ON
A LIMITED NUMBER OF CANDIDATES
WHO CAN OFFER A POSITIVE
CONSERVATIVE ALTERNATIVE TO THE
CURRENT FRONT-RUNNER.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT
PLAN? >> WELL FIRST OF ALL, I THINK
HE'S A NICE PERSON.
AND, YOU KNOW HONESTLY I CAN
UNDERSTAND HOW HE FEELS.
I CAME INTO IOWA EVERYONE SAID
THAT SCOTT WALKER WAS GOING TO
WIN IOWA.
I CAME INTO IOWA.
AND ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, I WAS
JUST KILLING HIM AT THE POLLS
AND BEATING HIM IN IOWA.
WITH THE CROWDS WITH THE POLLS
WITH EVERYTHING.
AND THEY SAY THAT IT WAS MY
ENTERING THE RACE THAT DESTROYED
HIS CAMPAIGN.
I DIDN'T GO AFTER SCOTT WALKER
VERY MUCH.
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON WHEN I
CAME IN HE WENT DOWN.
AND THEN HE WENT DOWN TO ALMOST
NOTHING.
HE WENT DOWN TO ZERO.
AND HE WAS LEADING.
HE IS LIKE I AM NOW, I DON'T
WANT TO SAY RESULT HAPPENED, TO
BE CAREFUL, IT HASN'T HAPPENED
BUT SCOTT WALKER WAS ACTUALLY
LEADING AND WENT DOWN TO ZERO.
SO OBVIOUSLY, HE MADE A LOT OF
MISTAKES.
THE THING THAT HURT HIM, I GO
ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY'RE ALL
SAYING WAS ME.
SO I CAN UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT
HE'S SAYING.
>> IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR
SIGHTS SET ON MARCO RUBIO.
YOU HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF HIM.
HE'S BEEN CRITICAL OF YOU.
HE SAYS IN TERMS OF YOU, YOU
HAVE NOT OFFERED SPECIFICS WITH
SYRIA AND ISIS.
LET ME PLAY FOR YOU WHAT MARCO
RUBIO HAS SAID ABOUT YOUR
FOREIGN POLICY CREDENTIALS.
>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING A PRESIDENT WILL EVER DO
IS LOOK AT NATIONAL SECURITY FOR
OUR COUNTRY.
I THINK UP TO THIS POINT
HASN'T ANSWERED THE NATIONAL
SECURITY. CARLY FIORINA IS NOT IN
GOVERNMENT.
SHE KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN HE
DOES. >> MR. TRUMP, WHAT ARE YOUR
SPECIFICS?
>> HE'S GOT THE WORST VOTING
RECORD IN THE UNITED STATES
SENATE. HE'S NEVER THERE MEANING HE
DOESN'T WORK OR TOO LAZY TO GO
BACK AND VOTE.
MARCO RUBIO WANTS TO TELL EVERY
SINGLE THING THAT HE KNOWS TO
EVERYBODY SO THAT THE PEOPLE ON
THE OTHER SIDE SO THAT THE
ENEMY CAN LEARN ABOUT IT.
I WANT TO BE UNPREDICTABLE.
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, A VERY GOOD
ARTICLE ABOUT MY BUSINESS
ACUMEN.
THEY SAID HE'S SO UNPREDICTABLE
AND DIFFICULT TO FIGHT BECAUSE
HE'S UNPREDICTABLE.
I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT MARCO
RUBIO KNOWS ABOUT SYRIA.
I KNOW ABOUT ISIS TRYING TO TALK
OUT ISIS AND THAT WANTING TO GO
AGAINST ASSAD.
AND SAYING I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
AMERICANS ARE KILLING MY ENEMY,
THIS IS THE GREATEST THING
HAPPENING TO ME.
WE ARE RUN BY INCOMPETENT
PEOPLE. I HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING.
I DON'T WANT THE OTHER SIDE TO
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO
DO SO THAT THEY CAN START
THINKING TAB PLANNING IT.
I WANT TO BE UNPREDICTABLE.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND BEING
UNPREDICTABLE WITH THE ENEMY AND
NOT TELEGRAPH THAT.
>> AND I GIVE ANSWERS GENERALLY
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO THAT
UNFORTUNATELY TO GET ELECTED.
>> YES, TO THE VOTERS.
>> DON'T FORGET, ALTISYN I WAS
THE ONE THAT SAID DON'T GO INTO
IRAQ. THAT IS WAS 2003.
>> WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MARCO
RUBIO? >> LOOK MARCO RUBIO SITS BEHIND
A DESK AND IN COMMITTEE.
I CREATE JOBS ALL DAY LONG.
I KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS ALL OF US
PUT TOGETHER. BELIEVE ME WE'LL HAVE A WINNING
STRATEGY.
IF MARCO RUBIO IS SO GOOD HOW
COME WE'RE DOING SO BADLY?
>> WILL YOU CLUE IN THE VOTERS
AS TO WHAT YOU WILL DO?
>> I'LL CLUE THEM IN BECAUSE I
HAVE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
IF I WIN THIS THING, I DON'T
WANT THE OTHER SIDE TO KNOW WHAT
MY VIEWS ARE.
WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
I WATCH OBAMA SAYING WE'RE GOING
TO DO THIS WE'RE GOING TO DO
THAT. EVERY TIME THEY TELL A MIDLEVEL
ACCOUNTING PERSON FROM ISIS
THEY HAVE A NEWS CONFERENCE TO
ANNOUNCE IT INSTEAD OF BEING
QUIET FOR A FEW MONTHS.
THEN EVERYBODY ELSE SCRAMBLES.
AND YOU CAN'T GET ANYBODY ELSE.
YOU GOT TO BE COOL AND YOU GOT
TO BE UNPREDICTABLE.
AND YOU JUST CAN'T GO IN AND SAY
EXACTLY HERE'S MY PLAN.
AND I DO HAVE PLANS.
AND BY THE WAY, PLANS ARE ALWAYS
SUBJECT TO MASSIVE CHANGE.
AND THEY CHANGE. YOU GOT TO WIN.
AND I KNOW HOW TO WIN.
THESE GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO
WIN.
MARCO RUBIO, HE'S LIKE A KID.
HE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE RUNNING IN
THIS RACE AS FAR AS I'M
CONCERNED.
HE'S A KID.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
SOMETHING FUNNY THAT IS
"SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" HAS JUST
ANNOUNCED WHO WILL BE PLAYING
YOU THIS SEASON.
THEIR COMPLETIAN TARYNE KILLIAN.
HE'S FUNNY AND HE DOES SAY LOT
OF IMPERSONATIONS HE'S PLAYED
JOHN BOEHNER AND TOM BRADY.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH HIS WORK?
>> I AM YES.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT HE'S
GOING TO BE PARODYING YOU?
>> I LOOK FORWARD TO IT
"SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" IS
TERRIFIC.
I HOPE HE DOES SAY GOOD JOB.
DARRELL HAMMOND WAS GREAT.
I THOUGHT DARRELL WAS
FANTASTICING. I HOPE HE DOES A GOOD JOB.
>> DARRELL HAMMOND DID DO AN
IMPECCABLE DONALD TRUMP.
>> HE WAS HAVE GOOD.
A NICE GUY, TOO.
I SEE HIM AROUND.
PEOPLE REALLY RELATED TO THAT
SOMEHOW. I'M NOT SURE THAT I ALWAYS HONEST.
>> BUT YOU SAW THE SIMILARITY?
>> I SAW THE SIMILARITY WITH
DARRELL, I SAW THE SIMILARITY.
I THOUGHT HE WAS TERRIFIC BUT
WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I MEAN I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
I'M NOT SURE I'LL LIKE IT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IF I DON'T
LIKE IT I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.
HAS "SNL" ASKED YOU TO GO ON
THIS SEASON?
WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT?
>> I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT.
>> WHY IS THAT?
>> BECAUSE I'M NOT ALLOWED TO
SAY THAT?
>> BECAUSE YOU'RE IN
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM?
>> WELL I'M JUST NOT ALLOWED TO
SAY IT.
SILENCIO. PERHAPS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT
MEANS? >> I BELIEVE I AM READING YOU
LOUD AND CLEAR.
IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING
MR. TRUMP, WHEN YOU WON'T ANSWER
SOMETHING. >> PEOPLE GET TOTALLY CONFUSED
WHEN I DON'T ANSWER SOMETHING.
>> YOU PRIDE YOURSELF IN BEING
THE STRAITGHT TALKER.
>> GENERAL DOUGLAS MacARTHUR I
CONSIDER HIM A GREAT GENERAL,
AND GENERAL PATTON THEY'RE
TELLING ALL OF THESE THINGS AND
WE'RE GOING TO SYRIA AND DO THIS
AND THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO
FIGHT RUSSIA.
BY THE WAY, RUSSIA WANTS TO KILL
ISIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BIGGER
PROBLEM THAN WE DO WITH ISIS.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND
START WORLD WAR III FIGHTING
SYRIA OVER RUSSIA.
HE'S A KID.
HE HAS NO RIGHT -- FRANKLY, HE
WAS VERY DISLOYAL TO BUSH.
BUSH WAS HIS MENTOR.
FACT THAT BUSH WAS HIS MENTOR
DIDN'T STOP THIS YOUNG GUY WHO
IS OVERLY AMBITIOUS FOR WANTING
TO RUN.
BUSH LOOKS FOOLISH AND HE LOOKS
LIKE HE'S A VERY DISLOYAL GUY,
FRANKLY. >> DONALD TRUMP, GREAT TO GET
YOUR COMMENTS.
WE APPRECIATE TALKING TO YOU.
WE APPRECIATE HAVING YOU ON "NEW
DAY."
PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON SOME OF
THE THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT
TO REVEAL TODAY.
>> I WILL ALISYN.
THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE EXTENDED INVITATIONS
TO JEB BUSH TED CRUZ MARCO
RUBIO TO ALSO COME ON TO
REACTION.