LOOKING AT THE TWO PODIUMS HERE IN MIAMI. LESS
THAN MINUTES FROM NOW HILLARY CLINTON AND BERNIE
SANDERS WILL BE FACING OFF IN A DEMOCRATIC DEBATE.
CNN IS BRINGING THE UNIVISION DEBATE TO YOU LIVE.
I INTERVIEWED DONALD TRUMP FRESH OFF HIS VICTORIES
YESTERDAY. AND HIS VICTORY SPEECH HE USED TO SHOWCASE
TRUMP PRODUCTS THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY PRODUCTS THAT
ARE AVAILABLE. STEAKS. SOME ARE CALLING IT A QVC
MOMENT FUELED BY ROMNEY'S RECENT REMARKS. I ASKED
TRUMP ABOUT THAT. YOU'LL HEAR IT IN A MOMENT.
FIRST LET'S PICK UP THE INTERVIEW WHERE WE LEFT
OFF BEFORE THE BREAK. WHERE DOES TRUMP STAND NOW
ON HIS COMMENTS ABOUT GOING AFTER THE FAMIES OF
TERRORISTS? YOU'D STILL WANT TO GO AFTER THE FAMILIES
OF TERRORISTS? NO, I DIDN'T REVERSE ANYTHING.
I CLARIFIED SIMPLY WE HAVE LAWS. WE HAVE TO OBEY
THE LAWS. KILLING THE FAMILIES OF TERRORISTS WOULD
BE AGAINST THE LAW. I DIDN'T SAY KILL. WE HAVE
TO GO AFTER THEM. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? KIDNAPPING
THEM? WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. IT'S THE ONLY WAY
YOU STOP IT. I TELL THE STORY OF GENERAL PERSHING
IN 1919 HOW HE STOPPED TERRORISM. YOU'LL TAKE
A LOOK AT IT. IT'S TOO LONG A STORY TO TELL ON
THE TAPE. IT'S ONE OF THE VERY INTERESTING AND
VERY POWERFUL STORIES. LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO BE A LOT TOUGHER. WE ARE PLAYING WITH A DIFFERENT
SET OF RULES. ISIS CHOPS OFF PEOPLE'S HEADS. ISIS
DROWNS PEOPLE IN STEEL CAGES AND PULLS UP THE
CAGE AN HOUR LATER. EVERYONE IS GONE. 40, 50,
60 PEOPLE. YOU SAID THE OTHER DAY WE HAVE TO PLAY
THE GAME THE WAY THEY PLAY THE GAME. WE HAVE TO
PLAY THE GAME AT A MUCH TOUGHER LEVEL. WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN? WE HAVE TO EXPAND THOSE LAWS. DOES
IT MEAN CUTTING OFF HEADS? NO, IT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT BUT WE HAVE TO EXPAND THE LAWS. WE ARE PLAYING
AT THIS LEVEL AND THEY DON'T CARE. THEY HAVE NO
RULES. AND WE HAVE THESE RULES THAT ARE VERY ONEROUS.
OUR MILITARY IS -- GENEVA CONVENTIONS ON WAR.
I KNOW THAT, BUT IT'S FUNNY. IT'S VERY INTERESTING
WHAT'S HAPPENS WITH THE GENEVA CONVENTION. EVERYBODY
BELIEVES IN THE GENEVA CONVENTION UNTIL THEY START
LOSING AND THEN, OKAY, LET'S TAKE OUT THE BOMB
WHEN THEY START LOSING. WE HAVE TO PLAY WITH A
TOUGHER SET OF RULES. WE HAVE LAWS. WE DON'T ALLOW
WATERBOARDING. ISIS IS -- THESE ARE SMART PEOPLE.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE INTERNET BETTER
THAN WE DO AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT'S, YOU KNOW,
CAME UP WITH IT. ISIS IS SITTING AROUND. THEY
JUST CHOPPED OFF 20 HEADS OF CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS.
THEY JUST DROWNED 40 PEOPLE. AND THEY ARE SITTING
AROUND WATCHING US ARGUING ABOUT WATERBOARDING.
YOU SAY INCREASE THE LAWS AND DO MORE THAN WATERBOARD,
WHAT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY? I'LL WORK IT IT WITH
THE GENERALS. I TALKED TO GENERAL MICHAEL HAYDEN.
HE SAYS IT'S TERRIBLE WE TALK THAT WAY. THAT'S
WHY WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS WAR FOR SO MANY YEARS.
HE SAYS YOUR FOREIGN POLICY IDEAS ARE FRIGHTENING.
HE FRIGHTENS ME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING ISIS
FOR MANY YEARS AND THIS SHOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN --
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVER WITH QUICKLY. WE HAVE
THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE FRIGHTENED BECAUSE I'M PROTECTING
-- YOU THINK THE PROBLEM WITH FIGHTING ISIS IS
THAT WE'RE NOT USING THE SAME TACTICS? WE'RE NOT
FIGHTING IT STRONGLY ENOUGH. WE HAVE TO END IT
AND GET BECOME TO REBUILDING OUR COUNTRY. OUR
INFRASTRUCT SURFALLING APART. OUR BRIDGES ARE
FALLING DOWN. DO YOU KNOW 60% OF OUR BRIDGES ARE
IN DANGEROUS CONDITION? AND WE'RE SPENDING TRILLIONS
OF DOLLARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. WE HAVE TO FIGHT
IT VICIOUSLY AND SWIFTLY AND WE HAVE TO KNOCK
OUT ISIS. NOW I DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO IRAQ. BUT
THE PROBLEM NOW IS THE WAY OBAMA GOT US OUT WAS
A DISASTER. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN WE GOT OUT,
AND I SAID IT ON YOUR SHOW TWO OR THREE YEARS
AGO. I SAID TAKE THE OIL. DID I SAY TAKE THE OIL?
YEAH, YOU DID. SO ARE YOU STILL IN SUPPORT OF
WATERBOARDING AND MORE? I'M IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF
WATERBOARDING. IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE LAW SO
I HAVE TO EXPAND THE LAW. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
IT'S NOT WITHIN THE LAW NOW BECAUSE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CHOP OFF HEADS AND WE AREN'T
ALLOWED TO WATERBOARD. SOMEHOW WE'RE AT A BIG
DISADVANTAGE. AND I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU THE
ANALOGY. SO THEY ARE SITTING AROUND HAVING DINNER.
THEY EAT TWO, EVEN THOUGH THEY CHOP OFF HEADS
AND DROWN PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE TALKING. CAN YOU
IMAGINE THE CONVERSATION WHEN THEY ARE TALKING
ABOUT HOW WEAK AND SOFT AND PATHETIC WE ARE AND
THEY GO OUT AND CHOP PEOPLE'S HEADS OFF. THEY
CAN'T BELIEVE IT. THE FACT IS, JUST IN A NUTSHELL,
WE HAVE TO BE MUCH TOUGHER. IF WE'RE GOING TO
BEAT ISIS, WE HAVE TO BE MUCH TOUGHER THAN WE
ARE. WHEN YOU HAVE GENERAL HAYDEN SAYING, OH,
THAT'S SO TERRIBLE THE WAY TRUMP IS TALKING. THAT'S
WHY WE'RE LOSING. I HAVE TO ASK YOU. I WATCHED
THE PRESS CONFERENCE YOU GAVE LAST NIGHT. THE
VICTORY SPEECH. OBVIOUSLY HUGE NIGHT FOR YOU.
JUST A COUPLE FACTUAL THINGS. THI THE STEAKS YOU
SHOWED, THOSE AREN'T TRUMP -- NO, I BUY THEM.
I'M NOT GOING TO KILL THE COW. THEY AREN'T SOLD
-- NO, NO, WE SELL -- EXCUSE ME. IT WAS TO FIGHT
BACK AGAINST WHAT'S -- TRUMP STEAKS. WE SELL THE
STEAKS THROUGH MY CLUBS. I HAVE MANY CLUBS AND
HOTELS. BUT THEY AREN'T SOLD AT SHARPER IMAGE.
NO, THEY ARE SOLD DIFFERENTLY. THAT BUSINESS IS
GONE. IT'S THE SAME THING. IT'S AN OFFSHOOT OF
IT. IT'S THE SAME THING. WE DO A TREMENDOUS STEAK
BUSINESS. THOSE STEAKS WEREN'T BOUGHT LOCALLY
FROM A MEAT SUPPLIER? IF I'M IN CALIFORNIA, I
DON'T WANT TO BUY MY STEAKS IN NEW YORK. SO YOU
ORDER -- WE HAVE DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS AND SELL
THE STEAKS. LARGELY TO OUR HOTELS AND CLUBS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE MAGAZINE IS NOT THE
TRUMP MAGAZINE THAT MITT ROMNEY WAS TALKING ABOUT?
I'VE HAD MANY MAGAZINES. I'LL SOMETIMES OPEN A
MAGAZINE FOR A PERIOD OF A YEAR GET IT STARTED
AND -- PEOPLE WERE POINTING OUT TODAY SAYING THE
ITEMS YOU WERE SHOWING LAST NIGHT, IN ORDER TO
PUSH BACK AGAINST MITT ROMNEY, YOU KNOW, THE IMPLICATION
WAS THOSE ARE TRUMP STEAKS AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE
SOMEWHERE. THEY ARE AVAILABLE NATION WIDE. YOU
CAN BUY THEM AT DIFFERENT PLACES I OWN. YOU CAN
BUY THEM IF YOU EAT IN YOUR RESTAURANT HERE? YOU
CAN'T GO ON THE INTERNET AND BUY THEM. THAT MAGAZINE
HAS BEEN WITH ME FOR A LONG TIME. THAT'S NOT THE
TRUMP MAGAZINE ROMNEY WAS TALKING ABOUT. I OPENED
UP MANY MAGAZINES WHEN I START A BUSINESS. AFTER
THE BUSINESS GETS GOING, YOU CLOSE IT UP. IT'S
LIKE A LOST LEADER. BECAUSE FRANKLY YOU DON'T
MAKE ANY MONEY WITH THESE MAGAZINES. FINALLY,
THE DEBATE TOMORROW NIGHT, DO YOU EXPECT THE TONE
AND TENOR TO BE DIFFERENT. YOU HAD PEOPLE ON --
IT'S SUCH AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I THINK IT'S
GOING TO BE MUCH DIFFERENT. I MUST TELL YOU, LAST
TIME, I WAS LEADING. AND BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW
HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT BUT EVERY SINGLE POLL SAID
I WON THE LAST DEBATE. WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE CALLING IN. BUT EVERY -- I WAS IN THE
60S AND 70S PERCENTILE. NOW WHEN I WENT INTO THAT,
I SAID, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING EVENING.
I WILL TELL YOU. A TOUGH EVENING. MANY PEOPLE
SAID, OH, BOY, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE YOU TONIGHT.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE A TOUGH EVENING. THEY WERE
LIKE WOUNDED. THEY WERE REALLY WOUNDED. I THINK
THIS IS GOING TO BE MUCH DIFFERENT. I MAY BE WRONG.
BUT I AM NOW FAR AND AWAY THE FRONT-RUNNER. I
THINK -- HERE'S THE THING. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
ARE SITTING ON MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
THAT WANT TO BE PART OF IT. THE WORST THING THEY
CAN DO IS KNOCK ME OUT. IF I GET KNOCKED OUT,
IF I DON'T MAKE IT, EVERY ONE OF THOSE -- YOU
THINK THEY'LL START TO COALESCE AROUND YOU? I
AM THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN BEAT HILLARY AND EASILY.
I'LL BRING IN MICHIGAN AND NEW YORK. THE PATHS
IS MUCH TOUGHER FOR A REPUBLICAN. YOU UNDERSTAND
THAT STRUCTURALLY. BECAUSE IF THEY LOSE OHIO,
IT'S OVER. IF THEY LOSE PENNSYLVANIA, FLORIDA,
IT'S OVER. BUT I'LL BRING IN STATES -- FIRST OF
ALL, I'LL WIN FLORIDA. WILL YOU DEBATE CRUZ IF
IT'S ONE ON ONE? THAT'S FINE. I DON'T THINK HE'S
A GOOD DEBATER. FRANKLY, THE WAY I LOOK AT TED,
IT'S VERY PHONY. I THINK TED IS ACTUALLY A BAD
TALKER, PRETTY GOOD DEBATER, BAD TALKER. CAN'T
TALK. I DON'T MIND DEBATING HIM AT ALL. THE PROBLEM
IS WHEN I DEBATE SOMEBODY, THEN PEOPLE SAY I'M
NOT A NICE PERSON. BUT THEY SAY YOU WON THE DEBATE.
SO BOTTOM LINE, TOMORROW NIGHT YOU ARE EXPECTING
A DIFFERENT TONE BUT YOU'LL BE READY FOR ANYTHING?
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOFTER, BUT I'LL BE READY.
I THINK MARCO WILL BE A DIFFERENT PERSON. MARCO
HAS BEEN MORTALLY WOUNDED. YOU KNOW, QUESTION
IS WILL MARCO EVEN BE THERE? I HOPE HE MAKES THE
RIGHT DECISION. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THE DECISION
FOR HIM. BUT MARCO HAS BEEN PRETTY BADLY WOUNDED.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. KASICH
IS INTERESTING. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO WIN MICHIGAN
AND HE LOST. HE SAID TO YOU. I WATCHED HIM ON
YOUR SHOW. HE NEVER SAID HE'D WIN. HE SAYS HE
WOULD DO VERY WELL. HE SAYS HE WOULD WIN MICHIGAN.
HE DIDN'T EVEN COME IN SECOND. I WAS OF THE IMPRESSION
IF HE DIDN'T WIN MICHIGAN -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
OHIO. IF HE DIDN'T WIN MICHIGAN, HE'D DROP OUT.
HE CAME IN THIRD. HE DIDN'T EVEN COME IN SECOND.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHAT HE SAYS. AND TED IS
TED. WE'VE BEEN PLAYING THE GAME FOR A LONG TIME.
THESE DEBATES TO ME ARE GETTING VERY BORING, IF
YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH. MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU.