LIVE AND MICHIGAN. THE RACE FOR THE REK NOMINATION
FOR PRESIDENT COULD CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.
FLORIDA AND OHIO EACH HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF DELEGATES AT
STAKE AND THEY AWARD ALL OF THEM TO THE CANDIDATE WHO WINS.
THEY'RE WINNER TAKE ALL STATES. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT WILL
HAPPEN IN THIS PRIMARY SEASON AND THIS IS THE LAST DEBATE
BEFORE THAT CRITICAL ROUND OF VOTING.
WE HOPE TONIGHT THE CANDIDATES WILL GIVE THE VOTERS SPECIFICS
ON THEIR VISIONS FOR AMERICA. SO NOW LET'S WELCOME TO
CANDIDATES. OHIO GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH.
SENATOR TED CRUZ OF TEXAS. [ APPLAUSE ]
REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND BUSINESSMAN DONALD TRUMP.
[ APPLAUSE ] SENATOR MARCO RUBIO OF FLORIDA.
[ APPLAUSE ] LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THIS EVENING, WE WANT TO REMEMBER FORMER FIRST
LADY NANCY REAGAN WHO PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK.
HER FUNERAL WILL BE HELD TOMORROW, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO REMEMBER NANCY REAGAN.
NOW PLEASE RISE FOR OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM PERFORMED BY THE FROST
SINGERS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI.
¶ O SAY, CAN YOU SEE BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT ¶
¶ WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING? ¶
¶ WHOSE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT STARS THROUGH THE PERILOUS
FIGHT ¶ ¶ O'ER THE RAMPARTS WE WATCHED
WERE SO GALLANTLY STREAMING? ¶ ¶ AND THE ROCKETS' RED GLARE THE
BOMBS BURSTING IN AIR ¶ ¶ GAVE PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT
THAT OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE ¶ ¶ OH, SAY, DOES THAT
STAR-SPANGLED BANNER YET WAVE ¶ ¶ O'ER THE LAND OF THE FREE
¶ AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE? [ APPLAUSE ]
THANKS TO THE FROST SINGERS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI.
CANDIDATES YOU CAN NOW TAKE YOUR POSITIONS BEHIND THE PODIUMS
WHILE I BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE RULES.
AS MODERATOR, I WILL ATTEMPT TO GUIDE THE DISCUSSION ASKING
QUESTIONS AND FOLLOW-UPS. JOINING ME IN THE QUESTIONING
THIS EVENING WILL BE "WASHINGTON TIMES" REPORTER STEPHEN DINAN,
CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT DANA BASH AND
SALEM RADIO'S HUGH HEWITT. CANDIDATES, YOU WILL HAVE ONE
MINUTE AND 15 SECONDS TO ANSWER EACH QUESTION AND 45 SECONDS TO
RESPOND TO FOLLOW-UPS OR REBUTTALS IF YOUR NAME IS
INVOKED. TIMING LIGHTS WILL BE VISIBLE.
THEY'LL WARN YOU WHEN TIME IS UP.
AND AS YOU REQUESTED, A BELL WILL ALSO SOUND LIKE THIS.
WE KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU WANTS TO DEBATE THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES
BUT PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE CALLED UPON, AND PLEASE DO NOT
TALK OVER ONE ANOTHER. THESE ARE THE RULES TO WHICH ALL
OF YOU AGREED. OUR GOAL THIS EVENING IS A
SERIOUS DEBATE ON THE ISSUES. IT'S TIME NOW FOR OPENING
STATEMENTS. YOU'LL EACH HAVE 30 SECONDS.
GOVERNOR KASICH, WE WILL START WITH YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I LOOK IN THE FACES OF
PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, AND I KNOW THEY WANT TO BE
HOPEFUL. AND MANY ARE HOPEFUL.
LOOK, I CAN TALK CONSERVATIVE POLICIES TO THE WHITE HOUSE,
WASHINGTON, TO RESTORE THE STRENGTH OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO TRANSFER POWER, MONEY AND INFLUENCE TO
WHERE YOU LIVE. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE STRENGTH
IN THIS COUNTRY RESTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE FAMILIES, THE
COMMUNITIES AND OUR STATES. AND I BELIEVE IT'S A NEW
PARTNERSHIP. A PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN ALLOW US
TO RESTORE THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA AND STRENGTHEN AMERICA FOR THE
BEST CENTURY WE'VE EVER HAD. THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ] SENATOR RUBIO?
EVERY ELECTION IS IMPORTANT. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT ELECTION IN A GENERATION.
BECAUSE WHAT'S AT STAKE IN THIS ELECTION IS NOT SIMPLY WHAT
PARTY IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OR WHICH CANDIDATE WINS.
WHAT'S AT STAKE IS OUR IDENTITY AS A NATION AND AS A PEOPLE.
FOR OVER TWO CENTURIES, AMERICA HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL NATION.
NOW THE TOMB HAS COME FOR THIS GENERATION TO DO WHAT IT MUST DO
TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. IF WE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE IN
THIS ELECTION, OUR CHILDREN WILL BE THE FREEST AND MOST
PROSPEROUS AMERICANS THAT HAVE EVER LIVED AND THE 21ST CENTURY
WILL BE A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY. [ APPLAUSE ]
SENATOR CRUZ. 59 YEARS AGO, FLORIDA
WELCOMED MY FATHER TO AMERICA AS HE STEPPED OFF THE FERRYBOAT
FROM CUBA ON TO KEY WEST. HE WAS 18.
HE WAS FILLED WITH HOPES AND DREAMS, AND YET IN THE FREEST
LAND ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THIS ELECTION, THIS DEBATE IS
NOT ABOUT INSULTS OR ATTACKS. IT'S NOT ABOUT ANY INDIVIDUALS
ON THIS STAGE. THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT YOU AND
YOUR CHILDREN. IT'S ABOUT THE FREEDOM AMERICA
HAS ALWAYS HAD. AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT
FREEDOM IS THERE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION THAT WE STOP
WASHINGTON FROM STANDING IN THE WAY OF THE HARD-WORKING
TAXPAYERS OF AMERICA. [ APPLAUSE ]
MR. TRUMP. ONE OF THE BIGGEST POLITICAL
EVENTS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
ARE GOING OUT TO THE POLLS AND THEY ARE VOTING.
THEY ARE VOTING OUT OF ENTHUSIASM.
THEY ARE VOTING OUT OF LOVE. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, FRANKLY,
HAVE NEVER VOTED BEFORE. 50 YEARS OLD, 60 YEARS OLD, 70
YEARS OLD. NEVER VOTED BEFORE.
WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE FROM THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE AS INDEPENDENCES.
INDEPENDENTS. THEY'RE ALL COMING OUT AND THE
WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT IT. IT'S VERY EXCITING.
I THINK, FRANKLY, THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT, OR WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO CALL IT, SHOULD EMBRACE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE HAVING MILLIONS OF EXTRA PEOPLE JOIN.
WE ARE GOING TO BEAT THE DEMOCRATS.
WE ARE GOING TO BEAT HILLARY OR WHOEVER IT MAY BE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BEAT THEM SOUNDLY.
[ APPLAUSE ] THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LET'S BEGIN WITH JOBS AND THE
ECONOMY WHICH REPUBLICAN VOTERS SAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE
TO THEM IN THIS ELECTION. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REAL
DIFFERENCES EXPRESSED ON THIS STAGE ON WHETHER TRADE DEALS
HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN WORKER.
MR. TRUMP'S SIGNATURE ISSUES IS ENDING WHAT HE CALLS DISASTROUS
TRADE DEALS IN ORDER TO BRING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA.
GOVERNOR KASICH, I'D LIKE TO START WITH YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THESE STRONG DEALS.
CRITICS SAY THESE DEALS ARE GREAT FOR CORPORATE AMERICA'S
BOTTOM LINE BUT HAVE COST THE U.S. AT LEAST 1 MILLION JOBS.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE CRITICISM THAT YOU'VE BEEN
CATERING TO BOARDROOMS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS?
I GREW UP IN A BLUE COLLAR FAMILY.
THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, OF COURSE, WE'RE SENSITIVE
ABOUT TRADE. 1 OUT OF 5 AMERICANS WORK IN A
JOB CONNECTED TO TRADE. 38 MILLION AMERICANS ARE
CONNECTED TO IT. BUT MY POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN
WE WANT TO HAVE FREE TRADE, BUT FAIR TRADE.
AND I'VE BEEN ARGUING ALL ALONG THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
THAT WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES BREAK THOSE AGREEMENTS, WE DON'T TURN
THE PROCESS OVER TO SOME INTERNATIONAL BUREAUCRAT WHO
COMES BACK A COUPLE YEARS LATER AND SAYS, OH, AMERICA WAS RIGHT
AND PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE
HAVE TO HAVE AN EXPEDITED PROCESS.
WHEN PEOPLE CHEAT, WHEN COUNTRIES CHEAT AND THEY TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF US, WE NEED TO BLOW THE WHISTLE.
AND AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I ABSOLUTELY WILL BLOW
THE WHISTLE AND BEGIN TO STAND UP FOR THE AMERICAN WORKER.
WE DON'T WANT TO LOCK THE DOORS AND PULL DOWN THE BLINDS AND
LEAVE THE WORLD BECAUSE, FRANKLY, IF WE DO THAT, PRICES
WILL GO UP. PEOPLE WILL BUY LESS.
OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE OUT OF WORK.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
TRADE, THOUGH, HAS TO BE BALANCED, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE
SURE THAT WHEN WE SEE A VIOLATION LIKE SOME COUNTRY,
DUMPING THEIR PRODUCTS INTO THIS COUNTRY, BELIEVE ME, AS
PRESIDENT, I WILL STAND UP AND I WILL SHUT DOWN THOSE IMPORTS
BECAUSE THEY ARE A VIOLATION OF THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE.
AND THE AMERICAN WORKER EXPECTS US TO STAND UP AND, JAKE, MY
FAMILY WORKED IN THE STEEL INDUSTRY, NOT WITH A WHITE
COLLAR. I UNDERSTAND THEIR PLIGHT.
MR. TRUMP, YOUR CRITICS SAY YOUR CAMPAIGN PLATFORM IS
INCONSISTENT WITH HOW YOU RUN YOUR BUSINESSES, NOTING YOU'VE
BROUGHT IN FOREIGN WORKERS INSTEAD OF HIRING AMERICANS AND
YOUR COMPANIES MANUFACTURE CLOTHING IN CHINA AND MEXICO.
WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST THAT YOU'LL RUN THE COUNTRY
DIFFERENTLY FROM HOW YOU RUN YOUR BUSINESSES?
BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS THE SYSTEM BETTER THAN ME.
I KNOW THE H1B, THE H2B. I'M A BUSINESSMAN.
THESE ARE LAWS. THESE ARE REGULATIONS.
THESE ARE RULES. WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT.
FRANKLY, BECAUSE OF THE DEVALUATIONS THAT'S OTHER
COUNTRIES, THE MONETARY DEVALUATIONS THAT OTHER
COUNTRIES ARE CONSTANTLY DOING AND BRILLIANTLY DOING AGAINST
US, IT'S VERY, VERY HARD FOR OUR COMPANIES IN THIS COUNTRY, IN
OUR COUNTRY TO COMPETE SO I WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
THEY ARE THE LAWS. BUT I'M THE ONE THAT KNOWS HOW
TO CHANGE IT. NOBODY ELSE ON THIS STAGE KNOWS
HOW TO CHANGE IT LIKE I DO. BELIEVE ME.
SENATOR RUBIO, LAST OCTOBER YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE QUOTE,
GENERALLY VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF FREE TRADE.
MORE RECENTLY YOU'VE BACKED AWAY FROM YOUR SUPPORT OF SOME TRADE
DEALS. IF ELECTED, WILL YOU SUPPORT
FREE TRADE DEALS, EVEN IF IT MEANS THE INEVITABLE LOSS OF
U.S. JOBS? NO, I SUPPORT FREE TRADE
DEALS THAT ARE GOOD FOR AMERICA. WE'RE 5% OF THE WORLD'S
POPULATION. IF ALL WE DO IS SELL THINGS DO
EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY SELL TO 5% OF THE PEOPLE ON EARTH.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD TODAY WHO CAN AFFORD TO BUY THINGS.
THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE A LOW TARIFF COUNTRY.
TO IMPORT SOMETHING INTO THE UNITED STATES IS NOT VERY
EXPENSIVE. BUT MANY OF THESE COUNTRIES WE
CAN'T EXPORT TO BECAUSE THEIR TARIFFS ARE TOO HIGH.
I'M IN FAVOR OF DEALS THAT ALLOW US TO BRING DOWN THOSE TARIFFS
SO AMERICA CAN SELL THINGS TO PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
THERE ARE GOOD TRADE DEALS AND BAD ONES.
HERE IN FLORIDA WE'VE BENEFITED FROM THE FREE TRADE DEAL WITH
COLOMBIA. IT'S ALLOWED FLOWER EXPORTERS TO
COME INTO THE UNITED STATES BUT CREATED JOBS FOR HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW DELIVERING THOSE FLOWERS AND WORKING IN
THAT INDUSTRY. WE HAVE A SURPLUS WITH COLOMBIA.
ON THE OTHER HAND YOU'VE SEEN TRADE DEALS IN MEXICO LESS THAN
PROMISING IN SOME ASPECTS, BETTER IN OTHERS.
I BELIEVE THAT AMERICA, IF GIVEN ACCESS TO FOREIGN MARKETS, OUR
WORKERS ARE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE IN THE WORLD.
OUR PEOPLE ARE THE MOST INNOVATIVE ON THIS PLANET.
IF IT'S A FREE AND FAIR TRADE DEAL WE CAN COMPETE AGAINST
ANYONE IN THE WORLD AND WE NEED TO IN THE 21ST CENTURY.
SENATOR CRUZ, YOU WERE A SUPPORTER OF THE PACIFIC TRADE
DEAL, BUT AFTER TAKING SOME HEAT FROM CONSERVATIVES YOU CHANGED
YOUR POSITION. WHY SHOULD THESE VOTERS WHO
DON'T LIKE THESE TRADE DEALS TRUST THAT YOU WILL FIGHT FOR
THEM ALL THE TIME AND NOT JUST IN ELECTION YEARS?
ACTUALLY THAT'S INCORRECT. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT
AGREEMENTS. THERE'S TPA AND TPP.
I OPPOSED TPP AND HAVE ALWAYS OPPOSED TPP.
WHEN IT COMES TO TRADE, LOOK, FREE TRADE, WHEN WE OPEN UP
FOREIGN MARKETS, HELPS AMERICANS.
BUT WE'RE GETTING KILLS IN INTERNATIONAL TRADE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE GETTING KILLED BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S
DOESN'T LOOK OUT FOR AMERICAN WORKERS AND JOBS ARE GOING
OVERSEAS. WE'RE DRIVING JOBS OVERSEAS.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOSING OUT ARE MANUFACTURING JOBS, OR
THE STEEL INDUSTRY OR AUTO INDUSTRY.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHO ELSE IS GOING TO BE LOSING OUT, WHICH IS
THE SERVICE INDUSTRY. THIS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS
NEGOTIATING THE TRADE OF SERVICES AGREEMENT WHICH IS
ANOTHER TREATY TO ALLOW SERVICES TO COME IN AND TAKE JOBS FROM
AMERICANS AS WELL. AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
TRADE AND IMMIGRATION ARE INTERWOVEN, AND THEY ARE HURTING
THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION?
IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A SOLUTION TO FIX IT?
I THINK THE SOLUTION IS SEVERAL THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE TRADE DEALS PROTECTING AMERICAN
WORKERS FIRST, NOT THE CORPORATE BOARD ROOM.
NUMBER TWO, WE NEED TO LIFT THE REGULATIONS ON AMERICAN
BUSINESSES HERE SO WE SEE JOBS COMING BACK.
AND NUMBER THREE, WE NEED A TAX PLAN LIKE THE TAX PLAN I'VE
INTRODUCED THAT WILL NOT TAX EXPORTS AND WILL TAX IMPORTS AND
THAT WILL BRING MILLIONS OF HIGH-PAYING JOBS BACK TO
AMERICA. LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT HOW
AMERICAN JOBS ARE IMPACTED BY FOREIGN WORKERS.
LET'S GO TO STEPHEN DINAN OF THE "WASHINGTON TIMES."
SENATOR RUBIO IN LATE 2014, DISNEY LAID OFF 250 TECH WORKERS
IN ORLANDO REPLACING MANY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS.
SOME OF THE AMERICANS EVEN HAD TO TRAIN THEIR OWN REPLACEMENTS.
YOU SUPPORT INCREASING THE H1B VISA PROGRAM THAT MADE IT
POSSIBLE TO BRING IN THESE FOREIGN WORKERS.
DOESN'T THIS PROGRAM TAKE JOBS AWAY FROM AMERICANS?
IF IT'S BEING ABUSED THE WAY DISNEY DID.
UNDERSTAND THAT PROGRAM, IT IS ILLEGAL NOW UNDER THAT PROGRAM
TO USE IT TO REPLACE AMERICAN WORKERS.
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU'RE NOT REPLACING AMERICANS BUT YOU'VE
TRIED TO HIRE AMERICANS. IF A COMPANY IS CAUGHT ABUSING
THAT PROCESS THEY SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO USE IT AGAIN.
THE SECOND PROBLEM WITH THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM
THAT PEOPLE PERHAPS DON'T UNDERSTAND IS A LOT OF THESE
COMPANIES ARE NOT DIRECTLY HIRING EMPLOYEES FROM ABROAD.
THEY ARE HIRING A CONSULTING COMPANY OUT OF INDIA.
THAT COMPANY HOARDS UP ALL OF THESE VISAS.
THEY HIRE WORKERS. YOU HIRE DISNEY OR SOME OTHER
COMPANY HOURS A THIS COMPANY. WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS
INSOURCING AND OUTSOURCING. THEY ARE BRINGING IN WORKERS
FROM ABROAD THAT ARE NOT DIRECT EMPLOYEES OF DISNEY OR SOMEONE
ELSE. THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF THIS
CONSULTING BUSINESS. WHAT I ARGUE IS THAT NO
CONSULTING BUSINESS SUCH AS THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HOARD UP
ALL OF THESE VISAS. THE VISAS SHOULD ONLY BE
AVAILABLE FOR COMPANIES TO USE TO DIRECTLY HIRE WORKERS AND WE
SHOULD BE STRICTER IN HOW HE ENFORCE IT.
IT'S ILLEGAL NOW. IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW NOW
TO USE THAT PROGRAM TO REPLACE AMERICANS.
AND IF A COMPANY IS CAUGHT DOING THAT, WHETHER IT BE DISNEY OR
ANYONE ELSE, THEY SHOULD BE BARRED FROM USING THE PROGRAM IN
THE FUTURE. SENATOR RUBIO, REAL QUICK
FOLLOW-UP ON THIS. A IN THE CONTEXT OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION YOU'VE CALLED FOR BASICALLY PUTTING OFF ANY
LEGALIZATION PROCESS UNTIL WE GET THE BORDER SECURED.
WHY NOT CALL FOR A PAUSE ON H1BS UNTIL THOSE ABUSES ARE SOLVED.
I'D BE OPEN TO IT IF IT TAKES A PAUSE.
I DON'T THINK IT TAKES A PAUSE TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
IF THEY ARE USING THAT PROGRAM TO REPLACE AN AMERICAN, IF
THERE'S AN AMERICAN WORKING AT DISNEY AND THEY BRING SOMEONE
FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY USING H1B TO REPLACE THEIR DIRECT JOB,
THAT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. WHAT I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU IS
WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW IS THEY ARE NOT -- WHAT THEY ARE DOING
IS ELIMINATING THE JOB, OUTSOURCING THE ENTIRE TECH
DIVISION TO A CONSULTING COMPANY.
MAKING THE ARGUMENT WE DIDN'T REPLACE YOU.
WE REPLACED THE WHOLE UNIT BY HIRING A COMPANY TO DO IT
INSTEAD. AND THAT COMPANY THEY ARE HIRING
IS BRINGING THEIR WORKERS FROM ABROAD.
IT'S A LOOPHOLE THEY'VE FIGURED OUT THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE SO
THEY CAN NO LONGER DO IT THAT WAY.
GOVERNOR KASICH, MR. TRUMP SAYS THAT LEGAL IMMIGRATION IS
PRODUCING, QUOTE, LOWER WAGES AND HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT FOR U.S.
WORKERS. HE'S CALLING FOR A PAUSE ON
GREEN CARDS ISSUED TO FOREIGN WORKERS.
WOULDN'T THAT HELP WORKERS IN THE U.S.?
LOOK, I BELIEVE IN IMMIGRATION, BUT IT HAS TO BE
CONTROLLED. THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
I WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE. I'D BE MAYBE RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT OF CROATIA IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION IS SOMETHING THAT BRINGS YOUTH AND VIBRANCY AND
ENERGY TO OUR COUNTRY. WE CLEARLY HAVE TO CONTROL OUR
BORDERS. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE JUST
WALKING IN. WE LOCK OUR DOORS AT HOME AT
NIGHT. THE COUNTRY HAS TO BE ABLE TO
LOCK ITS DOORS AS WELL. SO I HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM OF IMMIGRATION.
I WOULD SAY WE HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY FINISH THE WALL AND
GUARD THE BORDER. AND IF ANYBODY WERE TO COME IN
AFTER THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK.
NO EXCUSES BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE THIS PROBLEM.
WE OUGHT TO HAVE A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE COME IN,
WORK AND GO HOME. AND I THINK AT THE SAME TIME FOR
THE 11.5 MILLION WHO ARE HERE, THEN IN MY VIEW IF THEY HAVE NOT
COMMITTED A CRIME, SINCE THEY'VE BEEN HERE, THEY GET A PATH TO
LEGALIZATION. NOT TO CITIZENSHIP.
I BELIEVE THAT THAT PROGRAM CAN PASS THE CONGRESS IN THE FIRST
100 DAYS. BUT LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE
FACT THAT THE WHOLE KEY TO THE FUTURE OF AMERICA IS STRONG
ECONOMIC GROWTH WITH COMMON SENSE REGULATION, LOWER TAXES
AND A BALANCED BUDGET. WE CAN HAVE A RISING TIDE THAT
LIFTS ALL THE WORKERS IN AMERICA, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
CITIZENS OF AMERICA IF WE'LL JUST FOLLOW THE FORMULA THAT
WORKS THAT I USED IN WASHINGTON AND, GUESS WHAT, I'VE USED IN
OHIO TO GROW OVER 400 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS SINCE I'VE BEEN
GOVERNOR. MR. TRUMP, I DO WANT TO COME
TO YOU. WILL YOU ALSO IN YOUR ANSWER
ADDRESS HOW LONG YOU THINK THAT PAUSE WOULD BE AND WHAT THAT
PAUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE. FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THE H1B
VERY WELL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FRANKLY
USE AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO USE.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT. VERY, VERY BAD FOR WORKERS.
AND SECOND OF ALL, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY, WELL, I'M A
BUSINESSMAN AND I HAVE TO DO WHAT I HAVE TO DO.
WHEN IT'S SITTING THERE WAITING FOR YOU, BUT IT'S VERY BAD.
IT'S VERY BAD FOR BUSINESS. AND IT'S BAD FOR OUR WORKERS AND
UNFAIR FOR OUR WORKERS. VERY IMPORTANT, THE DISNEY
WORKERS ENDORSED ME, AS YOU PROBABLY READ.
I GOT A FULL ENDORSEMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SAID, AND
THEY HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE AND SAID HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S
GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX IT, BECAUSE IT IS A MESS.
FOR A PERIOD OF A YEAR TO TWO YEARS WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND
SEE, JUST ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, WHERE WE ARE,
WHERE WE STAND, WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE TO SORT OF TAKE A
STRONG, GOOD HARD LOOK AND COME UP WITH PLANS THAT WORK.
AND WE'RE RUSHING INTO THINGS, AND WE'RE JUST -- WE'RE LEADING
WITH THE CHIN. WE'RE LEADING WITH PEOPLE THAT
DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN TERMS OF OUR LEADERSHIP.
I'D SAY A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS.
SENATOR CRUZ, I WANT TO BRING YOU IN VERY QUICKLY ON THIS.
THE UNITED STATES AVERAGES ABOUT A MILLION NEW PERMANENT LEGAL
IMMIGRANTS A YEAR AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MORE GUEST WORKERS.
WHAT SHOULD THE RIGHT LEVEL BE? WE NEED TO REDEFINE OUR LEGAL
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM SO THAT IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN
ECONOMY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE BRINGING IN FAR
TOO MANY LOW SKILLED WORKERS. WHAT THAT IS DOING IS DRIVING
DOWN THE WAGES OF HARD-WORKING AMERICANS.
OUR SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING. THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A
SYSTEM THAT'S ALLOWING IN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO BE HERE
ILLEGALLY AND THE ANSWER TO THAT, I'VE LAID OUT A VERY
DETAILED IMMIGRATION PLAN ON MY WEBSITE.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL, TRIPLE THE BORDER PATROL.
WE'RE GOING TO END SANCTUARY CITIES.
WE'RE GOING TO CUT OFF FEDERAL TAXPAYER FUNDS TO ANY CITY THAT
DEFIES FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS. WE'RE GOING TO END WELFARE
BENEFITS FOR ANYONE WHO IS HERE ILLEGALLY.
AND THE THING TO UNDERSTAND, STEPHEN, WE CAN SOLVE THESE
PROBLEMS. IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW
TO DO IT. IT'S THAT WE'RE LACKING THE
POLITICAL WILL. NEITHER OF THE PARTIES IN
WASHINGTON WANTS TO DO THIS. THE DEMOCRATS SUPPORT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION BECAUSE THEY VIEW THOSE ILLEGAL IMP GRANTS AS
POTENTIAL VOTERS AND FAR TOO MANY OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE
DOING THE BIDDING OF WALL STREET AND THE SPECIAL INTEREST AND
THEY VIEW IT AS CHEAP LABOR. WE NEED LEADERSHIP THAT WORKS
FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS SYSTEM AND A SYSTEM THAT TAKES
CARE OF THE JOBS OF THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY.
DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? I WOULD ADD WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF GREEN CARDS COMING IN, THOSE AREN'T
WORKERS AT ALL. THEY ARE JUST COMING IN
PRIMARILY BASED ON FAMILY CONNECTION.
MY PARENTS CAME IN 1956. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MY PARENTS
CAME TO THE U.S. ON A FAMILY-BASED SYSTEM.
THE PROBLEM IS NOTHING LOOKS LIKE IT DID 60 YEARS AGO.
THE 21ST CENTURY ECONOMY IS NOT CREATING ENOUGH JOBS FOR PEOPLE
THAT DON'T HAVE SKILLS. WHEN MY PARENTS CAME, THEY HAD A
VERY LIMITED EDUCATION. MY FATHER STOPPED GOING TO
SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS 9 YEARS OLD BECAUSE HIS MOTHER DIED AND HE
HAD TO WORK. HE'D WORK THE NEXT 70 YEARS OF
HIS LIFE AND NEVER GO BACK TO SCHOOL.
I'M GRATEFUL EVERY DAY THAT AMERICA WELCOMED THEM.
BUT TODAY IN THE 21ST CENTURY, 60 YEARS LATER, FINDING JOBS
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SKILLS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE NEED TO MOVE TO A MERIT BASED SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION.
PARTICULARLY ON GREEN CARDS. THE PRIMARY CRITERIA FOR
BRINGING SOMEONE FROM ABROAD SHOULD BE, WHAT SKILLS DO YOU
HAVE? WHAT BUSINESS ARE YOU GOING TO
OPEN? WHAT INVESTMENT ARE YOU GOING TO
MAKE? WHAT JOB ARE YOU GOING TO BE
ABLE TO DO WHEN YOU ARRIVE IN THE UNITED STATES?
EDUCATION, OBVIOUSLY, PLAYS A LARGE ROLE WHEN IT COMES TO JOBS
AND THE ECONOMY. THE UNITED STATES HAS LONG BEEN
FALLING BEHIND OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD.
AMERICAN STUDENTS RANK 27TH OUT OF 34 COUNTRIES IN MATH AND 17TH
IN READING. MR. TRUMP, YOU'VE CALLED THE
EDUCATION STANDARDS KNOWN AS COMMON CORE A DISASTER.
WHAT ARE YOUR SPECIFIC OBJECTIONS TO COMMON CORE?
EDUCATION THROUGH WASHINGTON, D.C.
I DON'T WANT THAT. I WANT LOCAL EDUCATION.
I WANT THE PARENTS, AND I WANT ALL OF THE TEACHERS AND I WANT
EVERYBODY TO GET TOGETHER AROUND A SCHOOL AND TO MAKE EDUCATION
GREAT. AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
I WAS WITH DR. BEN CARSON TODAY, WHO IS ENDORSING ME, BY THE WAY,
TOMORROW MORNING, AND HE IS -- WE WERE TALKING.
WE SPOKE FOR OVER AN HOUR ON EDUCATION.
HE HAS SUCH A GREAT HANDLE ON IT.
HE WANTS COMPETITIVE SCHOOLS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT
ARE TERRIFIC, INCLUDING CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT THE UNIONS ARE
FIGHTING LIKE CRAZY. BUT CHARTER SCHOOLS WORK AND
WORK VERY WELL. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH EDUCATION,
SOMETHING THAT'S AN EXPERTISE OF HIM.
TO CLARIFY, THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS WERE DEVELOPED BY THE
STATES. STATES AND LOCALITIES
VOLUNTARILY ADOPT THEM AND THEY COMING UP WITH THEIR OWN
CURRICULA TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.
WHEN YOU SAY EDUCATION BY WASHINGTON, D.C., WHAT DO YOU
MEAN. BUT IT'S BEEN TAKEN OVER BY
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE
THAT WAY AND CERTAINLY SOUNDS BETTER THAT WAY BUT IT'S ALL
BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE BUREAUCRATS IN WASHINGTON AND
THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MIAMI OR
FLORIDA IN MANY CASES. IN SOME CASES THEY WOULD BE.
THEY ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THEIR PAYCHECK AND THE BIG
BUREAUCRACY THAN TAKING CARE OF THE CHILDREN.
GOVERNOR KASICH, YOU'VE CALLED OPPOSITION TO COMMON CORE
HYSTERIA. WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO
GRASSROOTS CONSERVATIVES WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU?
ALL I'M IN FAVOR OF IN OHIO IS HIGH STANDARDS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD TAKE 125 FEDERAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS, PUT
THEM IN FOUR BUCKETS AND SEND THEM BACK TO THE STATES.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SECONDLY, JAKE, IN OUR STATE, THE STATE SCHOOL BOARD SETS THE
STANDARDS. AND WE WANT HIGH STANDARDS
BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS HAD HIGH STANDARDS, UNFORTUNATELY.
THEY SET THE STANDARDS AND THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS DEVELOP THE
CURRICULUM. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE THAT IN THE
LAW. WE REASSERTED IT IN THE LAW.
AND WE ALSO WANT PARENTAL ADVISERS IN THE LOCAL SCHOOL
DISTRICT SO THAT IN FACT, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, EDUCATION HAS TO
BE RUN AT THE SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL WITH A LITTLE GUIDANCE FROM THE
STATE. NOW ON TOP OF THAT, YOU WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THE 21ST CENTURY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH OUR
KIDS? WE NEED TO START CONNECTING THEM
TO THE REAL WORLD. WE NEED TO BE TRAINING THEM FOR
THE JOBS OF THE 21ST CENTURY, NOT THE JOBS OF 20 YEARS AGO.
WE NEED VOCATIONAL EDUCATION STARTING IN THE SEVENTH GRADE
WHERE KIDS CAN GET THAT KIND OF EDUCATION THAT CAN TAKE THEM TO
COLLEGE BUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEIR K THROUGH 12 THEY OUGHT TO
BE CONNECTED WITH THE REAL -- WITH REAL-WORLD JOBS.
FRANKLY WHAT OUGHT TO HAPPEN IS WE OUGHT TO GET THEM TO PURSUE
THEIR GOD-GIVEN TALENTS AND CONNECT THEM WITH THE THINGS
THAT GIVE THEM PASSION. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S WE'RE
DOING IN OHIO. COMBINED WITH MENTORING PROGRAMS
TO TALK TO KIDS ABOUT WHAT THEIR FUTURE CAN BE.
SO LET ME BE CLEAR -- LOCAL CONTROL, OBVIOUSLY, HIGH STATE
STANDARDS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS IN THE STATE
OF OHIO. SENATOR CRUZ, YOU OBJECT TO
COMMON CORE. GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS LOCAL
SCHOOL BOARDS DEVELOPING LOCAL CURRICULUM TO MEET HIGHER
STANDARDS. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
COMMON CORE IS A DISASTER. AND IF I AM ELECTED PRESIDENT IN
THE FIRST DAYS AS PRESIDENT, I WILL DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION THAT COMMON CORE ENDS THAT DAY.
NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHY YOU CAN DO THAT.
IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM BUT YOU HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THE SOLUTIONS. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS
ABUSED EXECUTIVE POWER ENFORCING COMMON CORE ON THE STATES.
IT IS USED RACED TO THE TOP FUNDS TO EFFECTIVELY BLACKMAIL
AND FORCE THE STATES TO ADOPT COMMON CORE.
THE ONE SILVER LINING OF OBAMA ABUSING EXECUTIVE POWER IS THAT
EVERYTHING DONE WITH EXECUTIVE POWER CAN BE UNDONE WITH
EXECUTIVE POWER. AND I INTEND TO DO THAT.
BEYOND THAT, THOUGH, JAKE, I INTEND TO WORK TO ABOLISH THE
FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND SEND EDUCATION BACK TO THE
STATES AND BACK TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND LET ME SAY FINALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT REFORM WE CAN DO IN
EDUCATION AFTER GETTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT IS
EXPAND SCHOOL CHOICE. EXPAND CHARTER SCHOOLS AND HOME
SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND VOUCHERS AND SCHOLARSHIPS AND
GIVE EVERY CHILD, AFRICAN-AMERICAN, HISPANIC,
EVERY CHILD IN NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS TO A
QUALITY EDUCATION. LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER
TOPIC OF PARTICULAR INTEREST HERE IN FLORIDA.
FLORIDA HAS THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF SENIORS IN THE
COUNTRY. THERE ARE 3.1 MILLION SENIOR
CITIZENS HERE WHO RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS, AND THEY ARE
VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU CANDIDATES INTEND TO DO TO
KEEP SOCIAL SECURITY GOING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
LET ME TURN TO DANA BASH. SENIORITY RUBIO, YOU ARGUE
AMERICANS YOUR AGE MUST HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING
SOCIAL SECURITY SUSTAINABLE. FOR PEOPLE UNDER 55, YOU WANT TO
RAISE THE RETIREMENT AGE AND ALSO REDUCE BENEFITS FOR
WEALTHIER AMERICANS. SO WHAT SHOULD THE NEW
RETIREMENT AGE BE, AND HOW MUCH WILL THOSE BENEFITS BE CUT?
LET ME SAY THAT YOU ARE RIGHT.
THERE ARE ABOUT 3 MILLION SENIORS IN FLORIDA, WITH SOCIAL
SECURITY AND MEDICARE. ONE OF THEM IS MY MOTHER WHO
HAPPENS TO BE HERE TODAY. I'M AGAINST ANY CHANGES TO
SOCIAL SECURITY THAT ARE BAD FOR MY MOTHER.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES FOR THEM.
BUT ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT SOCIAL SECURITY SCAN STAY THE
WAY IT IS, IS LYING. ANY POLITICIAN THAT GOES AROUND
SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS RAISE A FEW TAXES OR LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS
THEY AREN'T BEING HONEST. SOCIAL SECURITY WILL GO BANKRUPT
AND BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY WITH IT.
IT REQUIRES PEOPLE YOUNGER, LIKE MYSELF, PEOPLE 30 YEARS AWAY
FROM RETIREMENT, TO ACCEPT THAT OUR SOCIAL SECURITY IS GOING TO
WORK DIFFERENTLY THAN IT DID FOR MY PARENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF RETIRING AT 67, THE WAY I'M SUPPOSED TO
RETIRE, I'D HAVE TO RETIRE AT 68.
IF I WERE STILL IN THE SENATE, I'D BE ONE OF THE YOUNGEST
PEOPLE THERE. IF I MADE A LOT OF MONEY, MY
SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT WILL NOT GROW AS FAST AS SOMEONE WHO MADE
LESS MONEY. MEDS CARE COULD BECOME THE
OPTION OF USING MY MEDS CARE BENEFIT TO BUY A PRIVATE PLAN I
LIKE. MEDICARE ADVANTAGE DOES THAT
NOW. THESE ARE NOT UNREASONABLE
THINGS TO ASK FOR SOMEONE WHO IS 30 YEARS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT IF
IT MEANS LEAVING THE PROGRAM UNDISTURBED FOR THOSE ON IT NOW
OR ABOUT TO BE ON IT AND MAKING SURE WE DO NOT BANKRUPT OUR
COUNTRY AND THAT THIS SYSTEM STILL EXISTS WHEN I RETIRE OR
WHEN MY CHILDREN RETIRE. THE QUESTION WAS SPECIFICS,
THE THOUGH. MADE YOUR PLAN VERY CLEARLY
ABOUT GENERALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
HOW HIGH WOULD THE RETIREMENT AGE GO AND HOW MUCH WOULD YOU
CUT -- SOMEONE MY AGE WOULD RETIRE
AT 68. WE'D ALLOW THE RETIREMENT AGE TO
INCREASE UNTIL IT HITS 70. SO MY CHILDREN WOULD RETIRE AT
70. I'D RETIRE AT 68.
A GRADUATING SCALE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND TED WHO ARE 45 YEARS
OLD, YEARS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT. PEOPLE ON IT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE
TO CHANGE IT AT ALL. IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE'LL
HAVE A DEBT CRISIS. IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF IF.
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHEN. IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS, ONLY
17% OF OUR BUDGET WILL REMAIN DISCRETIONARY.
83% OF THE BUDGET IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS WILL BE SPENT ON
MEDICARE, MEDICAID, THE INTEREST ON THE DEBT.
ALL OF IT WILL BE EATEN UP BY THAT.
THAT'S A DEBT CRISIS. AND IT WILL BE DEBILITATING TO
OUR ECONOMY AND OUR CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER THAN TO INHERIT A
DEBT CRISIS. MR. TRUMP, YOU DON'T WANT TO
RAISE THE RETIREMENT AGE OR CUT BENEFITS.
UNLESS ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE, SOCIAL SECURITY IS PROJECTED TO
RUN OUT OF MONEY WITHIN 20 YEARS.
SO SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING?
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DEMOCRATS, AND
I'VE WATCHED THEM VERY INTENSELY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A
VERY, VERY BORING THING TO WATCH, THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE
DOING NOTHING WITH SOCIAL SECURITY.
THEY ARE LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS.
THEY WANT TO INCREASE IT. THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY GIVE MORE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.
I'LL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL
SECURITY, TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY RICH
AGAIN, BRING BACK OUR JOBS, GET RID OF DEFICITS, GET RID OF
WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE WHICH IS RAMPANT IN THIS COUNTRY.
RAMPANT. TOTALLY RAMPANT.
AND IT'S MY ABSOLUTE INTENTION TO LEAVE SOCIAL SECURITY THE WAY
IT IS. NOT INCREASE THE AGE AND TO
LEAVE IT AS IS. YOU HAVE 22 YEARS, YOU HAVE A
LONG TIME TO GO. IT'S NOT LONG IN TERMS OF WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S STILL A LONG TIME TO GO.
AND I WANT TO LEAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AS IS.
I WANT TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY RICH AGAIN SO WE CAN AFFORD IT.
I WANT TO BRING BACK OUR JOBS. I WANT TO DO THINGS THAT WILL
MAKE US -- THAT WILL BRING BACK GDP.
AS AN EXAMPLE, GDP WAS 0 ESSENTIALLY FOR THE LAST TWO
QUARTERS. IF THAT EVER HAPPENED IN CHINA
YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A DEPRESSION LIKE NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN.
THEY GO DOWN TO 7%, 8% AND IT'S A NATIONAL TRAGEDY.
WE'RE AT ZERO. WE'VE LOST OUR JOBS.
WE'VE LOST EVERYTHING. WE'RE LOSING EVERYTHING.
OUR JOBS ARE GONE. OUR BUSINESSES ARE BEING TAKEN
OUT OF THE COUNTRY. I WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT
AGAIN AND LEAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AS IS.
WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF WASTE, FRAUD ABUSE AND BRING BACK
BUSINESS. SENATOR RUBIO, YOU WANT TO
GET IN. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH MR.
TRUMP. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WASTE,
FRAUD AND ABUSE. AN INDEPENDENT BIPARTISAN
ORGANIZATION, THE COMMITTEE FOR A RESPONSIBLE FEDERAL BUDGET,
SAYS IMPROPER PAYMENTS LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD
ONLY SAVE ABOUT $3 BILLION. BUT IT WOULD TAKE $150 BILLION
TO MAKE SOCIAL SECURITY SOLVENT. HOW WOULD YOU FIND ANOTHER $147
MILLION? WE'RE THE POLICEMEN OF THE
WORLD. WE TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE
WORLD. WE'LL HAVE A STRONGER MILITARY,
MUCH STRONGER. OUR MILITARY IS DEPLETING.
WE TAKE CARE OF GERMANY. WE TAKE CARE OF SAUDI ARABIA.
WE TAKE CARE OF JAPAN. WE TAKE CARE OF SOUTH KOREA.
EVERY TIME THIS MANIAC FROM NORTH KOREA DOES ANYTHING, WE
IMMEDIATELY SEND OUR SHIPS. WE GET VIRTUALLY NOTHING.
WE HAVE 28,000 SOLDIERS ON THE LINE BETWEEN NORTH KOREA AND
SOUTH KOREA. WE HAVE SO MANY PLACES.
SAUDI ARABIA WAS MAKING A BILLION DOLLARS A DAY, AND WE
WERE GETTING VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO PROTECT THEM.
WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD.
WE'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE REAL DEALS NOW.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE WEALTH BACK TO OUR COUNTRY.
WE OWE $19 TRILLION. WE'RE GOING TO BRING WEALTH BACK
TO OUR COUNTRY. SENATOR RUBIO, WILL THAT BE
ENOUGH TO SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY? NO.
YOU'VE OUTLINED WHY. THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
WHEN I RAN FOR SENATE I CAME OUT AND SAID WE'D HAVE TO MAKE
CHANGES TO SOCIAL SECURITY. PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THE TRUTH HERE
IN FLORIDA. FRAUD IS NOT ENOUGH.
CERTAINLY LET'S WIPE OUT THE FRAUD.
AS YOU SAID, IT WON'T ADD UP. YOU ALREADY GAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
ON FOREIGN AID I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME AS WELL.
I'M AGAINST ANY SORT OF WASTING MONEY ON FOREIGN AID.
IT'S LESS THAN 1% OF OUR FEDERAL BUDGET.
THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP. WE CAN'T TIP TOE AROUND THIS.
FRAUD AND ABUSE. LET'S GET RID OF FRAUD AND ABUSE
AND BE MORE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE SPEND FOREIGN AID.
YOU STILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEFICIT
YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE UP. IF WE DO NOT DO IT, WE WILL HAVE
A DEBT CRISIS. NOT TO MENTION A CRISIS OF
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. BOTH PARTIES HAVE TAKEN FAR TOO
LONG TO DEAL WITH IT. IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES
CONFRONTING AMERICA. IT'S BARELY BEEN ASKED IN ANY OF
THESE DEBATES. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT OR WE'LL
HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO OUR CHILDREN WHY THEY INHERITED THIS
DISASTER. SENATOR RUBIO SAYS YOUR
NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP. WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE?
SENATOR RUBIO SAYS YOUR NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE, MR. TRUMP? I'M JUST SAYING VERY SIMPLY
WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
I'VE BEEN GOING OVER BUDGETS AND LOOKING AT BUDGETS.
WE DON'T BID THINGS OT. WE DON'T BID OUT THE DRUG
INDUSTRY, PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY.
THEY DON'T GO OUT TO BID. THEY JUST PAY ALMOST AS IF YOU
WALK INTO A DRUG STORE. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PAYING.
THE REASON IS THEY HAVE A FANTASTIC LOBBY.
THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL THE SENATORS, THE CONGRESSMEN.
THEY HAVE GREAT POWER AND DON'T BID OUT.
THE MILITARY IS NEVER PROPERLY BID.
WE GO OUT TO MILITARY BIDS, IT'S NOT PROPERLY BID.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT SELL US THE PRODUCT ARE OFTENTIMES THE
PRESIDENT WE DON'T WANT ONLY BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY
HAS POLITICAL JUICE, OKAY? I'M SELF-FUNDING MY CAMPAIGN.
NOBODY IS GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF ME.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY'S MONEY. I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING.
WE'LL GO OUT TO BID IN EVERY FACET OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A FORTUNE. SENATOR CRUZ, YOU ADVOCATE
ALLOWING YOUNGER WORKERS TO PUT SOME OF THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY
TAXES INTO PERSONAL ACCOUNTS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO CRITICS WHO
SAY THAT MARKET VOLATILITY MEANS THAT THIS IS A DISASTROUS
PROPOSAL? NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO SEE
RESPONSIBILITY. SOCIAL SECURITY RIGHT NOW IS
CAREENING TOWARDS INSOLVENCY, AND IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.
AND ANY POLITICIAN THAT DOESN'T STEP FORWARD AND ADDRESS IT IS
NOT BEING A REAL LEADER. WE NEED TO SEE POLITICAL COURAGE
TO TAKE THIS ON AND SAVE AND STRENGTHEN SOCIAL SECURITY.
AND AS PRESIDENT, WHAT I WILL DO FOR SENIORS, FOR ANYONE AT OR
NEAR RETIREMENT, THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES WHATSOEVER.
EVERY BENEFIT WILL BE PROTECTED TO THE LETTER.
BUT FOR YOUNGER WORKERS, WE NEED TO GRADUALLY RAISE THE
RETIREMENT AGE. FOR YOUNGER WORKERS, CHANGE THE
RATE OF GROWTH OF BENEFITS. I
AND WE NEED TO HAVE FOR YOUNGER WORKERS THAT A PORTION OF YOUR
TAX PAYMENTS ARE IN PERSONAL ACCOUNTS LIKE A 401(K) THAT YOU
OWN THAT YOU CONTROL THAT YOU CAN PASS ON TO YOUR KIDS AND
GRANDKIDS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. WE'VE GOT LOTS OF CHALLENGES IN
THE WORLD. BUT THE ANSWER CAN'T JUST BE
WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND SAY PROBLEM GO AWAY.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE REAL SOLUTIONS. IT'S LIKE GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
IT IS VERY EASY. HILLARY CLINTON SAYS SHE'LL CUT
WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE. IF ONLY WE HAD SMARTER PEOPLE IN
WASHINGTON, THAT WOULD FIX THE PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT IS THE STATEMENT OF A
LIBERAL WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM.
HERE'S MY PHILOSOPHY. THE LESS GOVERNMENT, THE MORE
FREEDOM. THE FEWER BUREAUCRATS, THE MORE
PROSPERITY. AND THERE ARE BUREAUCRATS IN
WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW WHO ARE KILLING JOBS AND I'LL TELL YOU,
I KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I WILL FIND THEM AND I WILL FIRE
THEM. DID YOU JUSTICE JUST COMPARE
DONALD TRUMP TO HILLARY CLINTON ON THIS ISSUE?
I WILL LET DONALD SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.
BUT THERE'S A REASON, IN MY CAMPAIGN I'VE SET OUT A SPECIFIC
SPENDING CUT PLAN. $500 BILLION.
I'VE SPECIFIED FIVE MAJOR AGENCIES I'D ELIMINATE, 25
PROGRAMS. AND DANA, YOU KNOW WHY POLITICAL
CANDIDATES DON'T DO THAT? BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE
LOBBYISTS ATTACK YOU. WHEN YOU SPECIFY THE PROGRAMS
YOU WOULD ELIMINATE, THEN YOU GET ATTACKED.
LET'S TALK FOR EXAMPLE BACK IN IOWA THE FIRST PRIMARY.
WHEN I WENT TO IOWA AND CAMPAIGNED AGAINST ETHANOL
MANDATES, EVERYONE SAID THAT WAS POLITICAL SUICIDE.
YOU CAN'T TAKE ON ETHANOL IN IOWA.
AND MY OPPONENTS ON THIS STAGE NOT ONLY DIDN'T DO THE SAME.
THEY ATTACKED ME AND EVEN PROMISED TO EXPAND CORPORATE
WELFARE. IF WE'RE GOING TO STOP
BANKRUPTING OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS, YOU HAVE TO BE
WILLING TO TAKE ON THE LOBBYIST WHICH MEANS NOT JUST SOME
FANCIFUL WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE BUT SPECIFYING THESE ARE THE
PROGRAMS I'LL ELIMINATE. MR. TRUMP, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
RESPOND? IF YOU LOOK BACK TO IOWA, TED
DID CHANGE HIS VIEW AND HIS STANCE ON ETHANOL QUITE A BIT AT
THE END. NOT FULL ON, BUT HE DID CHANGE
HIS VIEW IN THE OPENS OF MAYBE DOING WELL.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
IT WAS A FRONT PAGE STORY ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND HE DID MAKE
A CHANGE. SENATOR CRUZ?
LISTEN, IF YOU ARE FED UP WITH WASHINGTON, THE QUESTION
YOU OUGHT TO BE ASKING IS WHO IS WILLING TO TAKE ON WASHINGTON?
IT'S EASY TO HAVE LANGUAGE, I'M FED UP WITH THE CORRUPTION IN
WASHINGTON. BUT IF YOU HAVE A CANDIDATE WHO
HAS BEEN FUNDING LIBERAL DEMOCRATS AND FUNDING THE
WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT, IT'S VERY HARD TO IMAGINE HOW
SUDDENLY THIS CANDIDATE IS GOING TO TAKE ON WASHINGTON.
WHEN I STOOD UP AND LED THE FIGHT AGAINST OBAMACARE,
WASHINGTON WAS FURIOUS AND ATTACKED ME, BUT I DID IT
BECAUSE I WAS HONORING MY COMMITMENT TO THE HARD-WORKING
MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS
BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE. WHEN I LED THE FIGHT AGAINST
AMNESTY, IT'S BECAUSE I WAS STANDING WITH THE PEOPLE AGAINST
WASHINGTON. AND IF YOU WANT TO TELL PEOPLE
YOU'RE GOING TO STAND AGAINST WASHINGTON, THE QUESTION WE
SHOULD ASK IS, WHEN HAVE YOU EVER STOOD UP TO THE LOBBYISTS
IN WASHINGTON? MR. TRUMP, I'LL LET YOU
RESPOND BECAUSE HE MENTIONED YOU.
FIRST OF ALL, TED WAS IN FAVOR OF AMNESTY.
NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. AND SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO RECENTLY
ENDORSED ME AND THERE'S NOBODY TOUGHER ON THE BORDERS THAN
SHERIFF JOE. AND SENATOR JEFF SESSIONS, AN
INCREDIBLE MAN, ALSO ENDORSED ME.
THERE'S NOBODY THAT KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE BORDERS THAN SENATOR
JEFF SESSIONS. I WOULD SAY THIS.
WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH
SOLUTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE ANSWERS
TO THINGS. AND SO FAR I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW
CIVIL IT'S BEEN UP HERE. GOVERNOR KASICH, LET'S GET
BACK TO SOCIAL SECURITY. YOU TOLD THE VOTER IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE TO, QUOTE, GET OVER CUTS TO SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS
BECAUSE YOU HAVE A REFORM PLAN AND THAT IS JUST THE REALITY YOU
SAY THAT IS OUT THERE. WHY IS CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY
PAYMENTS THE SOLUTION? FIRST OF ALL, WE HEAR ABOUT
TAKING ON WASHINGTON. I TOOK ON WASHINGTON AND I WON.
I ACTUALLY GOT THE BUDGET BALANCED WHEN I WAS A MEMBER OF
THE CONGRESS, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
WE PAID DOWN A HALF A TRILLION DOLLARS OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.
WE ALSO BALANCED THE BUDGET FOUR YEARS IN A ROW, AND WE WERE JUST
GROWING JOBS LIKE CRAZY, AND THE WAGE ISSUE WAS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE
THEN. I ALSO HAD A PLAN IN 1999 TO
SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAKE THE $5 TRILLION PROJECTED
SURPLUS AND NOT ONLY HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
BUT ALSO TO GIVE THEM PRIVATE ACCOUNTS.
THERE ARE MORE 18-YEAR-OLDS WHO BELIEVE THEY HAVE A BETTER
CHANCE OF SEEING A UFO THAN A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK AND A LOT
OF SENIORS WHO ARE VERY NERVOUS. I HAVE A PLAN THAT DOESN'T
REQUIRE RAISING THE RETIREMENT AGE.
IF YOU'VE HAD WEALTH THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFETIME, WHEN THE TIME
COMES TO BE ON SOCIAL SECURITY, YOU'LL STILL GET IT.
IT WILL SIMPLY BE LESS. AND FOR THOSE THAT DEPEND ON
THAT SOCIAL SECURITY, THEY'LL GET THEIR FULL BENEFIT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MONKEY AROUND WITH THE RETIREMENT AGE.
I'VE DONE ALL THIS BEFORE. THIS IS NOT A THEORY.
DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS TO BALANCE
A BUDGET? YES.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO CUT THEM.
IT MEANS YOU NEED TO INNOVATE THEM, THE WAY WE DO IN THE 21ST
CENTURY. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE A BALANCED
BUDGET IN WASHINGTON, BUT WHEN I WENT TO OHIO, WE WERE $8 BILLION
IN THE HOLE AND NOW $2 BILLION IN THE BLACK.
WE'RE UP 400,000 JOBS AND I WANT TO GO BACK WITH THE SAME FORMULA
TO BEAT THE WASHINGTON INSIDERS AGAIN.
AND I WILL GET IT DONE, AND THIS COUNTRY WILL BE MUCH STRONGER
ECONOMICALLY AS A RESULT. THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.
LET'S TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NOW.
MR. TRUMP, ONE OF THE CONCERNS YOUR OPPONENTS HAVE EXPRESSED
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS CAMPAIGN IS THE NOTION THAT IN
THEIR ESTIMATION YOU HOLD VIEWS THAT ARE AT DIRECT ODDS WITH
REPUBLICAN PARTY TRADITION. HOW ARE YOU LOOKING TO
FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS ITS
POTENTIAL LEADER? WHAT SHOULD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
STAND FOR IN 2016? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T
REALLY THINK THAT. I THINK I HOLD VIEWS THAT ARE
SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE PEOPLE. WE ARE MORE INCLUSIVE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS AND THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
BEEN POURING INTO THE POLLS, IT'S THE BIGGEST STORY.
YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE COMING IN.
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. I AM DIFFERENT IN ONE PRIMARY
RESPECT. AND THAT'S TRADE.
I FEEL THAT WE HAVE HAD HORRIBLE NEGOTIATORS.
HORRIBLE TRADE DEALS. THE JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE
DISAPPEARING. AND ESPECIALLY THE GOOD JOBS.
YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT JOBS REPORTS, WHICH ARE REALLY DONE
SO THAT PRESIDENTS AND POLITICIANS LOOK GOOD.
ALL OF THESE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR JOBS, WHEN THEY GIVE UP, THEY GO
HOME, THEY GIVE UP AND THEY ARE CONSIDERED STATISTICALLY
EMPLOYED. SO THAT'S THAT.
BUT I WILL SAY, TRADE DEALS ARE ABSOLUTELY KILLING OUR COUNTRY.
THE DEVALUATIONS OF THEIR CURRENCIES BY CHINA AND JAPAN
AND MANY, MANY OTHER COUNTRIES, AND WE DON'T DO IT BECAUSE WE
DON'T PLAY THE GAME. AND THE ONLY WAY WE'LL BE ABLE
TO DO IT IS WE'LL HAVE TO DO TAXES UNLESS THEY BEHAVE.
IF YOU DON'T TAX CERTAIN PRODUCTS COMING INTO THIS
COUNTRY FROM CERTAIN COUNTRIES THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
UNITED STATES AND LAUGHING AT OUR STUPIDITY, WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO LOSE BUSINESSES AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOSE
JOBS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE
WORKER OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS, THEIR SALARY AND PAY HAVE GONE
DOWN, NOT UP. IT'S GONE DOWN.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE'S BEEN SUCH AN OUTPOURING OF LOVE
TO WHAT I'M SAYING. SENATOR CRUZ, DONALD TRUMP
HAS SO FAR WON 35% OF THE VOTE. THOSE PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP TO
HIS VISION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WRONG WITH THAT VISION?
WELL, DONALD IS RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE.
HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT INTERNATIONAL TRADE.
HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THE PROBLEMS. BUT HIS SOLUTIONS DON'T WORK.
FOR EXAMPLE, HIS SOLUTION ON INTERNATIONAL TRADE, HE PROPOSED
EARLIER A 45% TARIFF ON FOREIGN GOODS.
HE BACKED AWAY FROM THAT IMMEDIATELY AND MAY COME BACK
WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'LL BE
TONIGHT. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS.
WE'VE SEEN PRIOR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES WHO PROPOSE TARIFFS.
AND THE EFFECT OF A 45% TARIFF WOULD BE WHEN YOU GO TO THE
STORE, TO WALMART, WHEN YOU ARE SHOPPING FOR YOUR KIDS, THE
PRICES YOU PAY GO UP 45%. BUT NOT ONLY THAT.
WHEN YOU PUT THOSE IN PLACE BECAUSE A TARIFF IS A TAX ON
YOU, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT THE RESPONSE IS THAT THE
COUNTRIES WE TRADE WITH PUT IN THEIR OWN TARIFFS.
A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION THAT WORKS IS THE TAX PLAN I'VE LAID
OUT WHICH WOULD ENABLE OUR EXPORTS TO BE TAX-FREE WOULD TAX
OUR IMPORTS, WOULD NOT RAISE PRICES FOR AMERICANS AND WOULD
NOT RESULT IN RECIPROCAL TARIFFS.
THANK YOU. FIX THE PROBLEM, AND THAT'S
WHAT IS MISSING FROM WHAT DONALD SAYS.
MR. TRUMP, WE'LL LET YOU RESPOND.
THE 45% TAX IS A THREAT. IT WAS NOT A TAX, IT WAS A
THREAT. IT WILL BE A TAX IF THEY DON'T
BEHAVE. TAKE CHINA AS AN EXAMPLE.
I HAVE MANY FRIENDS, GREAT MANUFACTURERS THAT WANT TO GO
INTO CHINA. THEY CAN'T.
CHINA WON'T LET THEM. WE TALK ABOUT FREE TRADE.
IT'S NOT FREE TRADE. IT'S STUPID TRADE.
CHINA DUMPS EVERYTHING THEY HAVE OVER HERE.
NO TAX, NO NOTHING, NO PROBLEMS, NO CURFEWS, NO ANYTHING.
WE CAN'T GET INTO CHINA. I HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE,
MANUFACTURERS, THEY CAN'T GET IN.
WHEN THEY GET IN, THEY HAVE TO PAY A TREMENDOUS TAX.
THE 45% IS A THREAT THAT IF THEY DON'T BEHAVE IF THEY DON'T
FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT EQUAL ON
BOTH SIDES, WE WILL TAX YOU. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 45%.
COULD BE LESS. BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING
BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY AND TRADE AND DEALS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
OUR JOBS ARE GOING TO HELL. SENATOR CRUZ?
JAKE, LET ME BE CLEAR WHAT DONALD JUST SAID.
HE SAID THAT 45% TAX IS A THREAT.
AND MIND YOU, YOU ARE PAYING THE TAX.
IT'S NOT CHINA THAT PAYS THE TAX.
IT'S YOU THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN.
SO ASK YOURSELF AT HOME, HOW IS THIS HELPING YOU?
IF YOUR WAGES HAVE BEEN STAGNANT FOR 20 YEARS, IF YOU CAN'T PAY
THE BILLS, HOW DOES IT HELP YOU TO HAVE A PRESIDENT COME AND
SAY, I'M GOING TO PUT A 45% TAX ON DIAPERS WHEN YOU BUY DIAPERS,
ON AUTOMOBILES WHEN YOU BUY AUTOMOBILES, ON CLOTHING WHEN
YOU BUY CLOTHING. THAT HURTS YOU.
IT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO GET BEYOND RHETORIC OF CHINA BAD AND
ACTUALLY GET TO HOW DO YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THIS
SOLUTION WOULD HURT JOBS AND HURT HARD-WORKING TAXPAYERS IN
AMERICA. OKAY --
JAKE, I HAVE TO SAY, HONESTLY, IT'S JUST THE
OPPOSITE. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T
BEHAVE, WE WILL PUT ON A TAX OF SOME AMOUNT, AND IT COULD BE A
LARGE AMOUNT, AND WE WILL START BUILDING THOSE FACTORIES OR
THOSE PLANTS. INSTEAD OF IN CHINA, WE'LL BUILD
THEM HERE AND PEOPLE WILL BUY PRODUCT FROM HERE RATHER THAN
BUYING IT THROUGH CHINA WHERE WE'RE BEING RIPPED OFF.
AND WE HAVE A $505 BILLION TRADE DEFICIT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'LL BUILD OUR FACTORIES HERE, AND WE'LL MAKE OUR OWN
PRODUCTS. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE
DONE. AND THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT
FOR THE LAST LONG PERIOD OF TIME IS OUR COUNTRY -- OUR COUNTRY IS
IN SERIOUS, SERIOUS TROUBLE. IT'S A BUBBLE.
AND IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE. BELIEVE ME.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VERY QUICK
BREAK. WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL HAVE
MUCH MORE OF THIS REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI RIGHT AFTER THIS.
STAY WITH US.
YOU'VE FINALLY EARNED ENOUGH REWARD MILES
ON YOUR AIRLINE CREDIT CARD.
NOW YOU JUST BOOK A SEAT, RIGHT?
NOT QUITE.
SOMETIMES THOSE SEATS ARE OUT OF REACH,
COSTING AN OUTRAGEOUS NUMBER OF MILES.
IT'S TIME TO SWITCH...
TO THE CAPITAL ONE VENTURE CARD.
WITH VENTURE,
YOU'LL EARN UNLIMITED DOUBLE MILES
ON EVERY PURCHASE, EVERY DAY.
AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO TRAVEL,
JUST BOOK THE FLIGHT YOU WANT,
ON ANY AIRLINE AND USE YOUR MILES TO COVER THE COST.
NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT.
WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET?
AND CA"SUPER FOOD?" IS THAT RECOMMEND SYA REAL THING?CEDAR?
IT'S A GREAT SCHOOL, BUT IS IT THE RIGHT ONE FOR HER?
IS THIS REALLY ANY BETTER THAN THE ONE YOU GOT LAST YEAR?
IF WE CONSOLIDATE SUPPLIERS, WHAT'S THE SAVINGS THERE?
SO SHOULD WE GO WITH THE 467 HORSEPOWER? ...OR IS A 423 ENOUGH?
GOOD QUESTION.
YOU ASK A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS...
I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE YOU INTO OUR NEW FUND.
SURE... OK.
BUT ARE YOU ASKING ENOUGH ABOUT HOW YOUR WEALTH IS MANAGED?
WEALTH MANAGEMENT AT CHARLES SCHWAB.
OTHIS HIGHLY SOUGHT-AFTER DEVICE "NAFROM PROGRESSIVEOOL.
CAN BE YOURS FOR...
TWENTY GRAND? -NO! WE ARE GIVING IT AWAY
FOR JUST 3 EASY PAYMENTS OF $4.99 PLUS TAX!
THE LINES ARE BLOWING UP!
WE'VE GOT DEBORAH FROM POUGHKEEPSIE.
FLO: YEAH, NO, IT'S FLO.
YOU GUYS REALIZE ANYONE CAN USE THE "NAME YOUR PRICE" TOOL
FOR FREE ON PROGRESSIVE.COM, RIGHT?
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I KNOW, IT'S LIKE THEY'RE ALWAYS ON TELEVISION.
WHAT?
WELCOME BACK TO THE CNN REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
IN MIAMI, FLORIDA. MR. TRUMP, LET ME START WITH
YOU. LAST NIGHT YOU TOLD CNN, QUOTE,
ISLAM HATES US. DID YOU MEAN ALL 1.6 BILLION
MUSLIMS? I MEAN A LOT OF THEM.
I MEAN A LOT OF THEM. DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THE
COMMENT AT ALL? I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE DEBATE
TODAY. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RADICAL
ISLAMIC TERRORISM OR RADICAL ISLAM.
I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT MAYBE
YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT, MAYBE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
ABOUT, BUT THERE'S TREMENDOUS HATRED.
AND I WILL STICK WITH EXACTLY WHAT I SAID TO ANDERSON COOPER.
SENATOR RUBIO, YOUR SUPPORTER, REPUBLICAN SENATOR
JEFF SESSIONS, SAID IN RESPONSE TO MR. TRUMP'S COMMENT LAST
NIGHT, I'M SORRY -- SENATOR JEFF FLAKE, I APOLOGIZE, YOUR
SUPPORTERS, SAID IN RESPONSE TO THAT COMMENT, REPUBLICANS ARE
BETTER THAN THIS. DO YOU AGREE?
LET ME SAY, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FIND APPEAL IN THE
THINGS DONALD SAYS. BECAUSE HE SAYS WHAT PEOPLE WISH
THEY COULD SAY. THE PROBLEM IS PRESIDENTS CAN'T
JUST SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT. IT HAS CONSEQUENCES HERE AND
AROUND THE WORLD. AND SO LET ME GIVE YOU ONE.
TWO DAYS AGO, I MET THIS EXTRAORDINARY COUPLE WHO ARE ON
FURLOUGH BECAUSE THEY ARE MISSIONARIES IN BANGLADESH.
IT'S A VERY TOUGH PLACE TO BE A MISSIONARY.
IT'S MUSLIM. THEIR SAFETY AND SECURITY RELIES
UPON FRIENDLY MUSLIMS THAT LIVE ALONGSIDE THEM THAT MAY NOT
CONVERT BUT PROTECT THEM AND LOOK OUT FOR THEM.
AND THEIR MISSION FIELD REALLY ARE MUSLIMS LOOKING TO CONVERT
TO CHRISTIANITY. THEY TELL ME TODAY THEY HAVE A
HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THE NEWS IS COMING OUT THAT IN
AMERICA LEADING POLITICAL FIGURES ARE SAYING THAT AMERICA
DOESN'T LIKE MUSLIMS. THIS IS A REAL IMPACT.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT RADICAL ISLAM IS A DANGER IN THE WORLD.
I CAN ALSO TELL YOU IF YOU GO TO ANY NATIONAL CEMETERY,
ESPECIALLY ARLINGTON, YOU'LL SEE CRESCENT MOONS THERE.
IF YOU GO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD YOU'LL SEE AMERICAN MEN AND
WOMEN SERVING US IN UNIFORM THAT ARE MUSLIMS.
AND THEY LOVE AMERICA. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE ON
THIS STAGE HAS SERVED IN UNIFORM IN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY.
ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS THE UNIFORM OF THE UNITED STATES ON
AND IS WILLING TO DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY IS SOMEONE THAT LOVES
AMERICA. NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RELIGIOUS
BACKGROUND MAY BE. MR. TRUMP?
MARCO TALKS ABOUT CONSEQUENCES.
WELL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONSEQUENCES, INCLUDING
AIRPLANES FLYING INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, THE PENTAGON AND
COULD HAVE BEEN THE WHITE HOUSE. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
PROBLEMS. NOW YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT,
AND YOU CAN BE POLITICALLY CORRECT IF YOU WANT.
I DON'T WANT TO BE SO POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I LIKE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE A SERIOUS, SERIOUS
PROBLEM OF HATE. THERE IS TREMENDOUS HATE.
THERE IS TREMENDOUS HATE. WE'RE LARGE PORTIONS OF A GROUP
OF PEOPLE, ISLAM, LARGE PORTIONS WANT TO USE VERY, VERY HARSH
MEANS. LET ME GO A STEP FURTHER.
WOMEN ARE TREATED HORRIBLY. YOU KNOW THAT.
YOU DO KNOW THAT. WOMEN ARE TREATED HORRIBLY, AND
OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE VERY, VERY BAD.
NOW I WILL SAY THIS, THERE IS TREMENDOUS HATRED.
THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I SAID THERE IS HATRED. IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SAY
SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY. AND EVERYBODY WOULD SAY, OH,
ISN'T THAT WONDERFUL. MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU.
WE BETTER SOLVE THE PROBLEM BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
SENATOR RUBIO? I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BEING
POLITICALLY CORRECT. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BEING
POLITICALLY CORRECT. I'M INTERESTED IN BEING CORRECT.
AND IN ORDER TO BE CORRECT ON THIS ISSUE, HERE'S THE BOTTOM
LINE. WE DO WORK.
THERE IS ISLAM HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM ON ITS HANDS.
IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF ITS ADHERE RENTS,
PARTICULARLY IN THE SUNNI FAITH, BUT ALSO THE SHIA WHO HAVE BEEN
RADICALIZED AND ARE WILLING TO FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS AND
KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
IT IS ALSO TRUE IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE WORLD AT THE
CHALLENGES WE FACE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH
OTHER -- WITH MUSLIMS WHO DO NOT -- WHO ARE NOT RADICALS.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE JORDAN DANIAN KINGDOM.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SAUDIS.
WE'RE GOING HAVE TO WORK WITH THE GULF KINGDOMS.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE EGYPTIANS TO DEFEAT THE SUNNI
ISIS. IT WILL TAKE A SUNNI ARAB
MOVEMENT TO DEFEAT THEM. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK
WITH PEOPLE IN THE MUSLIM FAITH EVEN AS ISLAM ITSELF FACES A
SERIOUS PROBLEM WITHIN IT OF RADICALIZATION.
THANK YOU. GOVERNOR KASICH?
DO YOU THINK ISLAM HATES US? NO, I DON'T.
I THINK THERE IS A SECT OF THIS RADICAL ISLAM THAT IS REALLY,
REALLY SERIOUS AND POSES THE GREATEST THREAT TO US TODAY.
THERE ISN'T ANY QUESTION. THAT'S WHY THE WHOLE WORLD HAS
TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE PROLIFERATION OF
THESE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
BUT LOOK, I WAS THERE WHEN -- AND SAW IT WHEN THE EGYPTIAN
AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES WAS IN THE ROSE GARDEN BRINGING
THE ARAB MUSLIM WORLD TO WORK WITH US TO REPEL SADDAM HUSSEIN
FROM KUWAIT. THE FACT IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING
TO DEFEAT ISIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THESE COUNTRIES.
AND THEY ARE EGYPT AND THEY ARE SAUDI ARABIA AND THEY ARE
JORDAN, AND THEY'RE THE GULF STATES.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER
APROCHPMENT. WITH TURKEY AND I THINK THEY
WENT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION WHEN THEY REJOINED TURKEY AND FROM
JOINING INTO THE ECONOMIC SPHERE OF EUROPE.
THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS A LOT OF THESE MUSLIMS COUNTRIES
CAN'T BELIEVE THE STUFF THEY SEE OUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISTORTED
THEIR FAITH. THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT RADICAL
ISLAM, THEY WANT TO DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ABOUT AND
OTHER MUSLIMS WHO DON'T SHARE THEIR VIEW, BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY, WE GOT TO BRING THE WORLD TOGETHER, THE CIVILIZED
WORLD, AND WE ALL BRING WITH ONE VOICE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SIT ON
THE FENCE UNDERSTAND WHAT CIVILIZATION IS AND WE REPRESENT
IT AND EQUALITY AND HOPE FOR EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU, GOVERNOR KASICH. MR. TRUMP, I WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE YOU SAID DURING THE COURSE OF THIS
CAMPAIGN. YOU SAID THE U.S. HAS TO, QUOTE,
TAKE OUT THE FAMILIES OF TERRORISTS.
WHEN IT WAS POINTED OUT TARGETING CIVILIANS WAS AGAINST
THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, YOU SAID, QUOTE, SO THEY CAN KILL US
BUT WE CAN'T KILL THEM? HOW WILL YOU ORDER THE MILITARY
TO DEAL WITH FAMILIES OF SUSPECTED TERRORISTS WHILE
ABIDING BY THE LAW? FIRST OF ALL, LET ME GO BACK
TO THE OTHER JUST FOR A SECOND. IN LARGE MOSQUES ALL OVER THE
MIDDLE EAST, YOU HAVE PEOPLE CHANTING "DEATH TO THE USA."
THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A FRIENDLY ACT TO ME.
AS FAR AS THE FAMILIES ARE CONCERNED AND AS FAR AS THE LAW
IS CONCERNED, WE HAVE A LAW -- THIS ALL STARTED WITH YOUR
QUESTION ON WATERBOARDING. WE HAVE A LAW THAT DOESN'T ALLOW
RIGHT NOW WATERBOARDING. THEY HAVE NO LAWS.
THEY HAVE NO RULES. THEY HAVE NO REGULATIONS.
THEY CHOP OFF HEADS, THEY DROWN 40, 50, 60 PEOPLE AT A TIME IN
BIG STEEL CAGES, PULL THEM UP AN HOUR LATER, EVERYONE DEAD, AND
WE'RE WORKING ON A DIFFERENT SET OF PARAMETERS.
NOW, WE HAVE TO OBEY THE LAWS, OKAY, HAVE TO OBEY THE LAWS.
BUT WE HAVE TO EXPAND THOSE LAWS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
FIGHT ON AT LEAST SOMEWHAT OF AN EQUAL FOOTING OR WE WILL NEVER,
EVER KNOCK OUT ISIS AND ALL OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE SO BAD.
WE BETTER EXPAND OUR LAWS OR WE'RE BEING A BUNCH OF SUCKERS
AND THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US. THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US.
BELIEVE ME. SENATOR RUBIO, WOULD YOU AS
PRESIDENT PURSUE A POLICY OF TARGETING THE FAMILIES OF
SUSPECTED TERRORISTS? NO, OF COURSE NOT AND WE
DON'T HAVE TO IN ORDER TO DEFEAT TERRORISTS.
THE WAY YOU DEFEAT TERRORISTS IS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE.
WHEN I'M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THE BEST INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES IN THE WORLD THAT RIGHT NOW HAVE BEEN HAMSTRUNG, THEY'RE
GOING TO FIND TERRORISTS. AND THE BEST MILITARY WHICH
NEEDS TO BE REBUILT BECAUSE BARACK OBAMA IS GUTTING OUR
MILITARY, HE IS GOING TO LEAVE US WITH THE SMALLEST ARMY SINCE
THE END OF WORLD WAR II AND THE SMALLEST NAVY IN A CENTURY AND
THE SMALLEST AIR FORCE WE'VE EVER HAD.
WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD THAT MILITARY AND THAT MILITARY WILL
REBUILD THEM. AND IF WE CAPTURE THEM ALIVE,
THEY WILL GO TO GUANTANAMO BAY, CUBA.
AND FIND OUT EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND DO SO LEGALLY.
SENATOR CRUZ, YOU TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THE RULES OF
ENGAGEMENT OF BATTLE AGAINST ISIS.
WOULD THAT INCLUDE TARGETING THE FAMILIES OF SUSPECTED
TERRORISTS? NO, OF COURSE NOT, WE'VE
NEVER TARGETED INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO
START NOW. LISTEN, JAKE, I UNDERSTAND.
PEOPLE ARE SCARED. FOR SEVEN YEARS WE FACED
TERRORIST ATTACKS, AND PRESIDENT OBAMA LECTURES AMERICANS ON
ISLAMOPHOBIA. THAT IS MADDENING.
THE ANSWER IS NOT TO YELL CHINA BAD, MUSLIMS BAD.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE THREATS WE'RE