LIVE AND MICHIGAN.
THE RACE FOR THE REK NOMINATION
FOR PRESIDENT COULD CHANGE
DRAMATICALLY. FLORIDA AND OHIO EACH HAVE A
LARGE NUMBER OF DELEGATES AT
STAKE AND THEY AWARD ALL OF THEM
TO THE CANDIDATE WHO WINS.
THEY'RE WINNER TAKE ALL STATES.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT WILL
HAPPEN IN THIS PRIMARY SEASON
AND THIS IS THE LAST DEBATE
BEFORE THAT CRITICAL ROUND OF
VOTING. WE HOPE TONIGHT THE CANDIDATES
WILL GIVE THE VOTERS SPECIFICS
ON THEIR VISIONS FOR AMERICA.
SO NOW LET'S WELCOME TO
CANDIDATES.
OHIO GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH.
SENATOR TED CRUZ OF TEXAS.
[ APPLAUSE ] REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND
BUSINESSMAN DONALD TRUMP. [ APPLAUSE ]
SENATOR MARCO RUBIO OF FLORIDA.
[ APPLAUSE ]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES FOR
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THIS EVENING, WE
WANT TO REMEMBER FORMER FIRST
LADY NANCY REAGAN WHO PASSED
AWAY THIS WEEK.
HER FUNERAL WILL BE HELD
TOMORROW, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO
REMEMBER NANCY REAGAN.
NOW PLEASE RISE FOR OUR NATIONAL
ANTHEM PERFORMED BY THE FROST
SINGERS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI.
♪ O SAY, CAN YOU SEE BY THE
DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT ♪
♪ WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED AT
THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING? ♪
♪ WHOSE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT
STARS THROUGH THE PERILOUS
FIGHT ♪
♪ O'ER THE RAMPARTS WE WATCHED
WERE SO GALLANTLY STREAMING? ♪
♪ AND THE ROCKETS' RED GLARE THE
BOMBS BURSTING IN AIR ♪
♪ GAVE PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT
THAT OUR FLAG WAS STILL THERE ♪
♪ OH, SAY, DOES THAT
STAR-SPANGLED BANNER YET WAVE ♪
♪ O'ER THE LAND OF THE FREE ♪
♪ AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE? ♪
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> THANKS TO THE FROST SINGERS
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI.
CANDIDATES YOU CAN NOW TAKE YOUR
POSITIONS BEHIND THE PODIUMS
WHILE I BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE
RULES.
AS MODERATOR, I WILL ATTEMPT TO
GUIDE THE DISCUSSION ASKING
QUESTIONS AND FOLLOW-UPS.
JOINING ME IN THE QUESTIONING
THIS EVENING WILL BE "WASHINGTON
TIMES" REPORTER STEPHEN DINAN,
CNN CHIEF POLITICAL
CORRESPONDENT DANA BASH AND
SALEM RADIO'S HUGH HEWITT.
CANDIDATES, YOU WILL HAVE ONE
MINUTE AND 15 SECONDS TO ANSWER
EACH QUESTION AND 45 SECONDS TO
RESPOND TO FOLLOW-UPS OR
REBUTTALS IF YOUR NAME IS
INVOKED.
TIMING LIGHTS WILL BE VISIBLE.
THEY'LL WARN YOU WHEN TIME IS UP.
AND AS YOU REQUESTED, A BELL
WILL ALSO SOUND LIKE THIS.
WE KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU WANTS
TO DEBATE THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES
BUT PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE
CALLED UPON, AND PLEASE DO NOT
TALK OVER ONE ANOTHER.
THESE ARE THE RULES TO WHICH ALL OF YOU AGREED.
OUR GOAL THIS EVENING IS A
SERIOUS DEBATE ON THE ISSUES.
IT'S TIME NOW FOR OPENING
STATEMENTS.
YOU'LL EACH HAVE 30 SECONDS.
GOVERNOR KASICH, WE WILL START
WITH YOU.
>> WELL, THANK YOU.
YOU KNOW, I LOOK IN THE FACES OF
PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY,
AND I KNOW THEY WANT TO BE HOPEFUL.
AND MANY ARE HOPEFUL.
LOOK, I CAN TALK CONSERVATIVE
POLICIES TO THE WHITE HOUSE,
WASHINGTON, TO RESTORE THE STRENGTH OF OUR ECONOMY.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO TRANSFER
POWER, MONEY AND INFLUENCE TO
WHERE YOU LIVE.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE STRENGTH
IN THIS COUNTRY RESTS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOODS, THE FAMILIES, THE
COMMUNITIES AND OUR STATES.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S A NEW PARTNERSHIP.
A PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN ALLOW US
TO RESTORE THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA
AND STRENGTHEN AMERICA FOR THE
BEST CENTURY WE'VE EVER HAD.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> SENATOR RUBIO?
>> EVERY ELECTION IS IMPORTANT.
I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT ELECTION IN A GENERATION.
BECAUSE WHAT'S AT STAKE IN THIS
ELECTION IS NOT SIMPLY WHAT PARTY IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE
OR WHICH CANDIDATE WINS.
WHAT'S AT STAKE IS OUR IDENTITY
AS A NATION AND AS A PEOPLE.
FOR OVER TWO CENTURIES, AMERICA
HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL NATION.
NOW THE TOMB HAS COME FOR THIS
GENERATION TO DO WHAT IT MUST DO
TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
IF WE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE IN
THIS ELECTION, OUR CHILDREN WILL
BE THE FREEST AND MOST
PROSPEROUS AMERICANS THAT HAVE
EVER LIVED AND THE 21st CENTURY
WILL BE A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> SENATOR CRUZ.
>> 59 YEARS AGO, FLORIDA
WELCOMED MY FATHER TO AMERICA AS
HE STEPPED OFF THE FERRYBOAT
FROM CUBA ON TO KEY WEST.
HE WAS 18.
HE WAS FILLED WITH HOPES AND
DREAMS, AND YET IN THE FREEST
LAND ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
THIS ELECTION, THIS DEBATE IS
NOT ABOUT INSULTS OR ATTACKS.
IT'S NOT ABOUT ANY INDIVIDUALS ON THIS STAGE.
THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT YOU AND
YOUR CHILDREN.
IT'S ABOUT THE FREEDOM AMERICA
HAS ALWAYS HAD.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT
FREEDOM IS THERE FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION THAT WE STOP
WASHINGTON FROM STANDING IN THE
WAY OF THE HARD-WORKING
TAXPAYERS OF AMERICA. [ APPLAUSE ]
>> MR. TRUMP.
>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST POLITICAL
EVENTS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
ARE GOING OUT TO THE POLLS AND
THEY ARE VOTING.
THEY ARE VOTING OUT OF
ENTHUSIASM.
THEY ARE VOTING OUT OF LOVE.
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, FRANKLY,
HAVE NEVER VOTED BEFORE.
50 YEARS OLD, 60 YEARS OLD, 70
YEARS OLD.
NEVER VOTED BEFORE.
WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE FROM THE
DEMOCRAT PARTY.
WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE AS
INDEPENDENCES.
INDEPENDENTS.
THEY'RE ALL COMING OUT AND THE
WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
IT'S VERY EXCITING.
I THINK, FRANKLY, THE REPUBLICAN
ESTABLISHMENT, OR WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO CALL IT, SHOULD EMBRACE
WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE HAVING MILLIONS OF EXTRA
PEOPLE JOIN.
WE ARE GOING TO BEAT THE
DEMOCRATS.
WE ARE GOING TO BEAT HILLARY OR WHOEVER IT MAY BE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BEAT THEM SOUNDLY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
LET'S BEGIN WITH JOBS AND THE
ECONOMY WHICH REPUBLICAN VOTERS
SAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE
TO THEM IN THIS ELECTION.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REAL
DIFFERENCES EXPRESSED ON THIS
STAGE ON WHETHER TRADE DEALS
HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN
WORKER.
MR. TRUMP'S SIGNATURE ISSUES IS
ENDING WHAT HE CALLS DISASTROUS
TRADE DEALS IN ORDER TO BRING
JOBS BACK TO AMERICA.
GOVERNOR KASICH, I'D LIKE TO
START WITH YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE
FOR THESE STRONG DEALS.
CRITICS SAY THESE DEALS ARE
GREAT FOR CORPORATE AMERICA'S
BOTTOM LINE BUT HAVE COST THE
U.S. AT LEAST 1 MILLION JOBS.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE
CRITICISM THAT YOU'VE BEEN
CATERING TO BOARDROOMS AT THE
EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS?
>> I GREW UP IN A BLUE COLLAR
FAMILY.
THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, OF COURSE, WE'RE SENSITIVE
ABOUT TRADE.
1 OUT OF 5 AMERICANS WORK IN A JOB CONNECTED TO TRADE.
38 MILLION AMERICANS ARE
CONNECTED TO IT.
BUT MY POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN
WE WANT TO HAVE FREE TRADE, BUT FAIR TRADE.
AND I'VE BEEN ARGUING ALL ALONG
THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
THAT WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES BREAK
THOSE AGREEMENTS, WE DON'T TURN
THE PROCESS OVER TO SOME
INTERNATIONAL BUREAUCRAT WHO
COMES BACK A COUPLE YEARS LATER
AND SAYS, OH, AMERICA WAS RIGHT
AND PEOPLE ARE OUT OF WORK.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE
HAVE TO HAVE AN EXPEDITED
PROCESS.
WHEN PEOPLE CHEAT, WHEN
COUNTRIES CHEAT AND THEY TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF US, WE NEED TO BLOW
THE WHISTLE.
AND AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES, I ABSOLUTELY WILL BLOW
THE WHISTLE AND BEGIN TO STAND
UP FOR THE AMERICAN WORKER.
WE DON'T WANT TO LOCK THE DOORS
AND PULL DOWN THE BLINDS AND
LEAVE THE WORLD BECAUSE,
FRANKLY, IF WE DO THAT, PRICES
WILL GO UP.
PEOPLE WILL BUY LESS.
OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE OUT OF
WORK.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
TRADE, THOUGH, HAS TO BE
BALANCED, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE
SURE THAT WHEN WE SEE A
VIOLATION LIKE SOME COUNTRY,
DUMPING THEIR PRODUCTS INTO THIS
COUNTRY, BELIEVE ME, AS
PRESIDENT, I WILL STAND UP AND I
WILL SHUT DOWN THOSE IMPORTS
BECAUSE THEY ARE A VIOLATION OF
THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE.
AND THE AMERICAN WORKER EXPECTS
US TO STAND UP AND, JAKE, MY
FAMILY WORKED IN THE STEEL
INDUSTRY, NOT WITH A WHITE
COLLAR.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR PLIGHT.
>> MR. TRUMP, YOUR CRITICS SAY
YOUR CAMPAIGN PLATFORM IS
INCONSISTENT WITH HOW YOU RUN
YOUR BUSINESSES, NOTING YOU'VE
BROUGHT IN FOREIGN WORKERS
INSTEAD OF HIRING AMERICANS AND
YOUR COMPANIES MANUFACTURE
CLOTHING IN CHINA AND MEXICO.
WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST THAT
YOU'LL RUN THE COUNTRY DIFFERENTLY FROM HOW YOU RUN
YOUR BUSINESSES?
>> BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS THE SYSTEM BETTER THAN ME.
I KNOW THE H1B, THE H2B.
I'M A BUSINESSMAN.
THESE ARE LAWS. THESE ARE REGULATIONS.
THESE ARE RULES.
WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT.
FRANKLY, BECAUSE OF THE
DEVALUATIONS THAT'S OTHER
COUNTRIES, THE MONETARY
DEVALUATIONS THAT OTHER
COUNTRIES ARE CONSTANTLY DOING
AND BRILLIANTLY DOING AGAINST
US, IT'S VERY, VERY HARD FOR OUR
COMPANIES IN THIS COUNTRY, IN
OUR COUNTRY TO COMPETE
SO I WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
THEY ARE THE LAWS.
BUT I'M THE ONE THAT KNOWS HOW
TO CHANGE IT.
NOBODY ELSE ON THIS STAGE KNOWS
HOW TO CHANGE IT LIKE I DO.
BELIEVE ME.
>> SENATOR RUBIO, LAST OCTOBER
YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE QUOTE,
GENERALLY VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF
FREE TRADE.
MORE RECENTLY YOU'VE BACKED AWAY FROM YOUR SUPPORT OF SOME TRADE
DEALS.
IF ELECTED, WILL YOU SUPPORT
FREE TRADE DEALS, EVEN IF IT
MEANS THE INEVITABLE LOSS OF
U.S. JOBS?
>> NO, I SUPPORT FREE TRADE DEALS THAT ARE GOOD FOR AMERICA.
WE'RE 5% OF THE WORLD'S
POPULATION. IF ALL WE DO IS SELL THINGS DO
EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY SELL TO
5% OF THE PEOPLE ON EARTH.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD TODAY WHO CAN
AFFORD TO BUY THINGS.
THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE A LOW
TARIFF COUNTRY.
TO IMPORT SOMETHING INTO THE
UNITED STATES IS NOT VERY EXPENSIVE.
BUT MANY OF THESE COUNTRIES WE
CAN'T EXPORT TO BECAUSE THEIR
TARIFFS ARE TOO HIGH.
I'M IN FAVOR OF DEALS THAT ALLOW
US TO BRING DOWN THOSE TARIFFS
SO AMERICA CAN SELL THINGS TO
PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
THERE ARE GOOD TRADE DEALS AND
BAD ONES.
HERE IN FLORIDA WE'VE BENEFITED
FROM THE FREE TRADE DEAL WITH
COLOMBIA.
IT'S ALLOWED FLOWER EXPORTERS TO
COME INTO THE UNITED STATES BUT
CREATED JOBS FOR HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW DELIVERING
THOSE FLOWERS AND WORKING IN THAT INDUSTRY.
WE HAVE A SURPLUS WITH COLOMBIA.
ON THE OTHER HAND YOU'VE SEEN
TRADE DEALS IN MEXICO LESS THAN
PROMISING IN SOME ASPECTS, BETTER IN OTHERS.
I BELIEVE THAT AMERICA, IF GIVEN
ACCESS TO FOREIGN MARKETS, OUR
WORKERS ARE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE
IN THE WORLD.
OUR PEOPLE ARE THE MOST INNOVATIVE ON THIS PLANET.
IF IT'S A FREE AND FAIR TRADE
DEAL WE CAN COMPETE AGAINST
ANYONE IN THE WORLD AND WE NEED
TO IN THE 21st CENTURY.
>> SENATOR CRUZ, YOU WERE A
SUPPORTER OF THE PACIFIC TRADE
DEAL, BUT AFTER TAKING SOME HEAT
FROM CONSERVATIVES YOU CHANGED
YOUR POSITION.
WHY SHOULD THESE VOTERS WHO
DON'T LIKE THESE TRADE DEALS TRUST THAT YOU WILL FIGHT FOR
THEM ALL THE TIME AND NOT JUST
IN ELECTION YEARS?
>> ACTUALLY THAT'S INCORRECT.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS.
THERE'S TPA AND TPP.
I OPPOSED TPP AND HAVE ALWAYS
OPPOSED TPP.
WHEN IT COMES TO TRADE, LOOK,
FREE TRADE, WHEN WE OPEN UP
FOREIGN MARKETS, HELPS AMERICANS.
BUT WE'RE GETTING KILLS IN
INTERNATIONAL TRADE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE GETTING KILLED BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S
DOESN'T LOOK OUT FOR AMERICAN
WORKERS AND JOBS ARE GOING OVERSEAS.
WE'RE DRIVING JOBS OVERSEAS.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOSING
OUT ARE MANUFACTURING JOBS, OR
THE STEEL INDUSTRY OR AUTO
INDUSTRY.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHO ELSE IS
GOING TO BE LOSING OUT, WHICH IS THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.
THIS OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS
NEGOTIATING THE TRADE OF
SERVICES AGREEMENT WHICH IS
ANOTHER TREATY TO ALLOW SERVICES
TO COME IN AND TAKE JOBS FROM AMERICANS AS WELL.
AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
TRADE AND IMMIGRATION ARE
INTERWOVEN, AND THEY ARE HURTING
THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF
THIS COUNTRY.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE
SOLUTION?
IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROBLEMS.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A SOLUTION TO
FIX IT?
I THINK THE SOLUTION IS SEVERAL
THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE
TRADE DEALS PROTECTING AMERICAN
WORKERS FIRST, NOT THE CORPORATE BOARD ROOM.
NUMBER TWO, WE NEED TO LIFT THE
REGULATIONS ON AMERICAN
BUSINESSES HERE SO WE SEE JOBS
COMING BACK.
AND NUMBER THREE, WE NEED A TAX
PLAN LIKE THE TAX PLAN I'VE
INTRODUCED THAT WILL NOT TAX
EXPORTS AND WILL TAX IMPORTS AND
THAT WILL BRING MILLIONS OF
HIGH-PAYING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA.
>> LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT HOW AMERICAN JOBS ARE IMPACTED BY
FOREIGN WORKERS. LET'S GO TO STEPHEN DINAN OF THE
"WASHINGTON TIMES."
>> SENATOR RUBIO IN LATE 2014,
DISNEY LAID OFF 250 TECH WORKERS
IN ORLANDO REPLACING MANY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS.
SOME OF THE AMERICANS EVEN HAD
TO TRAIN THEIR OWN REPLACEMENTS.
YOU SUPPORT INCREASING THE H1B
VISA PROGRAM THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE TO BRING IN THESE
FOREIGN WORKERS.
DOESN'T THIS PROGRAM TAKE JOBS
AWAY FROM AMERICANS?
>> IF IT'S BEING ABUSED THE WAY
DISNEY DID.
UNDERSTAND THAT PROGRAM, IT IS
ILLEGAL NOW UNDER THAT PROGRAM
TO USE IT TO REPLACE AMERICAN
WORKERS.
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU'RE NOT
REPLACING AMERICANS BUT YOU'VE
TRIED TO HIRE AMERICANS.
IF A COMPANY IS CAUGHT ABUSING
THAT PROCESS THEY SHOULD NEVER
BE ALLOWED TO USE IT AGAIN.
THE SECOND PROBLEM WITH THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM
THAT PEOPLE PERHAPS DON'T
UNDERSTAND IS A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES ARE NOT DIRECTLY
HIRING EMPLOYEES FROM ABROAD.
THEY ARE HIRING A CONSULTING
COMPANY OUT OF INDIA.
THAT COMPANY HOARDS UP ALL OF
THESE VISAS. THEY HIRE WORKERS.
YOU HIRE DISNEY OR SOME OTHER COMPANY HOURS A THIS COMPANY.
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS
INSOURCING AND OUTSOURCING.
THEY ARE BRINGING IN WORKERS
FROM ABROAD THAT ARE NOT DIRECT
EMPLOYEES OF DISNEY OR SOMEONE ELSE.
THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF THIS
CONSULTING BUSINESS.
WHAT I ARGUE IS THAT NO CONSULTING BUSINESS SUCH AS THAT
SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HOARD UP ALL OF THESE VISAS.
THE VISAS SHOULD ONLY BE AVAILABLE FOR COMPANIES TO USE
TO DIRECTLY HIRE WORKERS AND WE SHOULD BE STRICTER IN HOW HE
ENFORCE IT.
IT'S ILLEGAL NOW.
IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW NOW
TO USE THAT PROGRAM TO REPLACE
AMERICANS.
AND IF A COMPANY IS CAUGHT DOING
THAT, WHETHER IT BE DISNEY OR
ANYONE ELSE, THEY SHOULD BE
BARRED FROM USING THE PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE.
>> SENATOR RUBIO, REAL QUICK
FOLLOW-UP ON THIS.
A IN THE CONTEXT OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION YOU'VE CALLED FOR
BASICALLY PUTTING OFF ANY
LEGALIZATION PROCESS UNTIL WE
GET THE BORDER SECURED.
WHY NOT CALL FOR A PAUSE ON H1Bs
UNTIL THOSE ABUSES ARE SOLVED.
>> I'D BE OPEN TO IT IF IT TAKES A PAUSE.
I DON'T THINK IT TAKES A PAUSE
TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
IF THEY ARE USING THAT PROGRAM
TO REPLACE AN AMERICAN, IF
THERE'S AN AMERICAN WORKING AT
DISNEY AND THEY BRING SOMEONE
FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY USING H1B
TO REPLACE THEIR DIRECT JOB,
THAT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
WHAT I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU IS
WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW IS THEY
ARE NOT -- WHAT THEY ARE DOING
IS ELIMINATING THE JOB,
OUTSOURCING THE ENTIRE TECH
DIVISION TO A CONSULTING
COMPANY.
MAKING THE ARGUMENT WE DIDN'T
REPLACE YOU.
WE REPLACED THE WHOLE UNIT BY
HIRING A COMPANY TO DO IT
INSTEAD.
AND THAT COMPANY THEY ARE HIRING
IS BRINGING THEIR WORKERS FROM ABROAD.
IT'S A LOOPHOLE THEY'VE FIGURED
OUT THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE SO THEY CAN NO LONGER DO IT THAT
WAY.
>> GOVERNOR KASICH, MR. TRUMP
SAYS THAT LEGAL IMMIGRATION IS
PRODUCING, QUOTE, LOWER WAGES
AND HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT FOR U.S. WORKERS.
HE'S CALLING FOR A PAUSE ON
GREEN CARDS ISSUED TO FOREIGN WORKERS.
WOULDN'T THAT HELP WORKERS IN
THE U.S.?
>> LOOK, I BELIEVE IN
IMMIGRATION, BUT IT HAS TO BE
CONTROLLED.
THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE.
I'D BE MAYBE RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT OF CROATIA IF WE
DIDN'T HAVE IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION IS SOMETHING THAT
BRINGS YOUTH AND VIBRANCY AND
ENERGY TO OUR COUNTRY.
WE CLEARLY HAVE TO CONTROL OUR BORDERS.
WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE JUST
WALKING IN.
WE LOCK OUR DOORS AT HOME AT
NIGHT.
THE COUNTRY HAS TO BE ABLE TO
LOCK ITS DOORS AS WELL.
SO I HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM OF
IMMIGRATION.
I WOULD SAY WE HAVE TO
ABSOLUTELY FINISH THE WALL AND
GUARD THE BORDER.
AND IF ANYBODY WERE TO COME IN
AFTER THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO GO BACK.
NO EXCUSES BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTINUE THIS PROBLEM.
WE OUGHT TO HAVE A GUEST WORKER
PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE COME IN,
WORK AND GO HOME.
AND I THINK AT THE SAME TIME FOR
THE 11.5 MILLION WHO ARE HERE,
THEN IN MY VIEW IF THEY HAVE NOT
COMMITTED A CRIME, SINCE THEY'VE
BEEN HERE, THEY GET A PATH TO
LEGALIZATION.
NOT TO CITIZENSHIP.
I BELIEVE THAT THAT PROGRAM CAN
PASS THE CONGRESS IN THE FIRST
100 DAYS.
BUT LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE
FACT THAT THE WHOLE KEY TO THE
FUTURE OF AMERICA IS STRONG
ECONOMIC GROWTH WITH COMMON
SENSE REGULATION, LOWER TAXES
AND A BALANCED BUDGET.
WE CAN HAVE A RISING TIDE THAT
LIFTS ALL THE WORKERS IN
AMERICA, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
CITIZENS OF AMERICA IF WE'LL
JUST FOLLOW THE FORMULA THAT
WORKS THAT I USED IN WASHINGTON
AND, GUESS WHAT, I'VE USED IN
OHIO TO GROW OVER 400 PRIVATE
SECTOR JOBS SINCE I'VE BEEN
GOVERNOR.
>> MR. TRUMP, I DO WANT TO COME TO YOU.
WILL YOU ALSO IN YOUR ANSWER
ADDRESS HOW LONG YOU THINK THAT PAUSE WOULD BE AND WHAT THAT
PAUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THE H1B
VERY WELL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FRANKLY USE AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO
USE. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
VERY, VERY BAD FOR WORKERS.
AND SECOND OF ALL, IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT TO SAY, WELL, I'M A BUSINESSMAN AND I HAVE TO DO
WHAT I HAVE TO DO. WHEN IT'S SITTING THERE WAITING
FOR YOU, BUT IT'S VERY BAD.
IT'S VERY BAD FOR BUSINESS.
AND IT'S BAD FOR OUR WORKERS AND
UNFAIR FOR OUR WORKERS.
VERY IMPORTANT, THE DISNEY
WORKERS ENDORSED ME, AS YOU
PROBABLY READ.
I GOT A FULL ENDORSEMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SAID, AND
THEY HAD A NEWS CONFERENCE AND
SAID HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S
GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX IT, BECAUSE IT IS A MESS.
FOR A PERIOD OF A YEAR TO TWO
YEARS WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK AND
SEE, JUST ANSWER THE SECOND PART
OF YOUR QUESTION, WHERE WE ARE,
WHERE WE STAND, WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE HAVE TO SORT OF TAKE A
STRONG, GOOD HARD LOOK AND COME
UP WITH PLANS THAT WORK.
AND WE'RE RUSHING INTO THINGS,
AND WE'RE JUST -- WE'RE LEADING
WITH THE CHIN.
WE'RE LEADING WITH PEOPLE THAT
DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING
IN TERMS OF OUR LEADERSHIP. I'D SAY A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR,
MAYBE TWO YEARS.
>> SENATOR CRUZ, I WANT TO BRING
YOU IN VERY QUICKLY ON THIS.
THE UNITED STATES AVERAGES ABOUT
A MILLION NEW PERMANENT LEGAL
IMMIGRANTS A YEAR AND HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS MORE GUEST WORKERS.
WHAT SHOULD THE RIGHT LEVEL BE?
>> WE NEED TO REDEFINE OUR LEGAL
IMMIGRATION SYSTEM SO THAT IT
MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN
ECONOMY.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE BRINGING IN FAR
TOO MANY LOW SKILLED WORKERS.
WHAT THAT IS DOING IS DRIVING
DOWN THE WAGES OF HARD-WORKING
AMERICANS.
OUR SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING.
THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE A
SYSTEM THAT'S ALLOWING IN
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO BE HERE
ILLEGALLY AND THE ANSWER TO
THAT, I'VE LAID OUT A VERY
DETAILED IMMIGRATION PLAN ON MY
WEBSITE.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A WALL,
TRIPLE THE BORDER PATROL.
WE'RE GOING TO END SANCTUARY
CITIES.
WE'RE GOING TO CUT OFF FEDERAL
TAXPAYER FUNDS TO ANY CITY THAT
DEFIES FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.
WE'RE GOING TO END WELFARE
BENEFITS FOR ANYONE WHO IS HERE
ILLEGALLY.
AND THE THING TO UNDERSTAND,
STEPHEN, WE CAN SOLVE THESE
PROBLEMS.
IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW
TO DO IT.
IT'S THAT WE'RE LACKING THE POLITICAL WILL.
NEITHER OF THE PARTIES IN
WASHINGTON WANTS TO DO THIS.
THE DEMOCRATS SUPPORT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION BECAUSE THEY VIEW
THOSE ILLEGAL IMP GRANTS AS
POTENTIAL VOTERS AND FAR TOO
MANY OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE
DOING THE BIDDING OF WALL STREET
AND THE SPECIAL INTEREST AND
THEY VIEW IT AS CHEAP LABOR.
WE NEED LEADERSHIP THAT WORKS
FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS
SYSTEM AND A SYSTEM THAT TAKES
CARE OF THE JOBS OF THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY.
>> DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN?
>> I WOULD ADD WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF GREEN
CARDS COMING IN, THOSE AREN'T
WORKERS AT ALL.
THEY ARE JUST COMING IN
PRIMARILY BASED ON FAMILY
CONNECTION.
MY PARENTS CAME IN 1956.
I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MY PARENTS
CAME TO THE U.S. ON A
FAMILY-BASED SYSTEM.
THE PROBLEM IS NOTHING LOOKS
LIKE IT DID 60 YEARS AGO.
THE 21st CENTURY ECONOMY IS NOT
CREATING ENOUGH JOBS FOR PEOPLE
THAT DON'T HAVE SKILLS.
WHEN MY PARENTS CAME, THEY HAD A
VERY LIMITED EDUCATION.
MY FATHER STOPPED GOING TO
SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS 9 YEARS OLD
BECAUSE HIS MOTHER DIED AND HE
HAD TO WORK.
HE'D WORK THE NEXT 70 YEARS OF HIS LIFE AND NEVER GO BACK TO
SCHOOL.
I'M GRATEFUL EVERY DAY THAT
AMERICA WELCOMED THEM.
BUT TODAY IN THE 21st CENTURY,
60 YEARS LATER, FINDING JOBS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SKILLS IS
VERY IMPORTANT.
WE NEED TO MOVE TO A MERIT BASED
SYSTEM OF IMMIGRATION.
PARTICULARLY ON GREEN CARDS.
THE PRIMARY CRITERIA FOR
BRINGING SOMEONE FROM ABROAD
SHOULD BE, WHAT SKILLS DO YOU
HAVE?
WHAT BUSINESS ARE YOU GOING TO
OPEN? WHAT INVESTMENT ARE YOU GOING TO
MAKE?
WHAT JOB ARE YOU GOING TO BE
ABLE TO DO WHEN YOU ARRIVE IN
THE UNITED STATES?
>> EDUCATION, OBVIOUSLY, PLAYS A
LARGE ROLE WHEN IT COMES TO JOBS
AND THE ECONOMY.
THE UNITED STATES HAS LONG BEEN
FALLING BEHIND OTHERS IN THE
INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD.
AMERICAN STUDENTS RANK 27th OUT
OF 34 COUNTRIES IN MATH AND 17th
IN READING.
MR. TRUMP, YOU'VE CALLED THE
EDUCATION STANDARDS KNOWN AS
COMMON CORE A DISASTER.
WHAT ARE YOUR SPECIFIC
OBJECTIONS TO COMMON CORE?
>> EDUCATION THROUGH WASHINGTON, D.C.
I DON'T WANT THAT.
I WANT LOCAL EDUCATION.
I WANT THE PARENTS, AND I WANT
ALL OF THE TEACHERS AND I WANT
EVERYBODY TO GET TOGETHER AROUND
A SCHOOL AND TO MAKE EDUCATION
GREAT.
AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
I WAS WITH DR. BEN CARSON TODAY,
WHO IS ENDORSING ME, BY THE WAY,
TOMORROW MORNING, AND HE IS --
WE WERE TALKING.
WE SPOKE FOR OVER AN HOUR ON EDUCATION.
HE HAS SUCH A GREAT HANDLE ON
IT.
HE WANTS COMPETITIVE SCHOOLS AND
A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT
ARE TERRIFIC, INCLUDING CHARTER
SCHOOLS THAT THE UNIONS ARE
FIGHTING LIKE CRAZY.
BUT CHARTER SCHOOLS WORK AND
WORK VERY WELL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE BEEN VERY
INVOLVED WITH EDUCATION,
SOMETHING THAT'S AN EXPERTISE OF
HIM.
>> TO CLARIFY, THE COMMON CORE STANDARDS WERE DEVELOPED BY THE
STATES.
STATES AND LOCALITIES
VOLUNTARILY ADOPT THEM AND THEY
COMING UP WITH THEIR OWN
CURRICULA TO MEET THOSE
STANDARDS.
WHEN YOU SAY EDUCATION BY
WASHINGTON, D.C., WHAT DO YOU
MEAN.
>> BUT IT'S BEEN TAKEN OVER BY
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE
THAT WAY AND CERTAINLY SOUNDS
BETTER THAT WAY BUT IT'S ALL BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE
BUREAUCRATS IN WASHINGTON AND
THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MIAMI OR FLORIDA IN MANY CASES.
IN SOME CASES THEY WOULD BE.
THEY ARE MORE INTERESTED IN
THEIR PAYCHECK AND THE BIG
BUREAUCRACY THAN TAKING CARE OF THE CHILDREN.
>> GOVERNOR KASICH, YOU'VE
CALLED OPPOSITION TO COMMON CORE
HYSTERIA.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO
GRASSROOTS CONSERVATIVES WHO DO
NOT AGREE WITH YOU?
>> ALL I'M IN FAVOR OF IN OHIO
IS HIGH STANDARDS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD TAKE 125
FEDERAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS, PUT
THEM IN FOUR BUCKETS AND SEND
THEM BACK TO THE STATES.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS.
SECONDLY, JAKE, IN OUR STATE,
THE STATE SCHOOL BOARD SETS THE
STANDARDS.
AND WE WANT HIGH STANDARDS BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS HAD
HIGH STANDARDS, UNFORTUNATELY.
THEY SET THE STANDARDS AND THE
LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS DEVELOP THE
CURRICULUM.
NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE THAT IN THE
LAW.
WE REASSERTED IT IN THE LAW.
AND WE ALSO WANT PARENTAL
ADVISERS IN THE LOCAL SCHOOL
DISTRICT SO THAT IN FACT, YOU
KNOW, FRANKLY, EDUCATION HAS TO
BE RUN AT THE SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL
WITH A LITTLE GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE.
NOW ON TOP OF THAT, YOU WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THE 21st CENTURY,
WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH OUR KIDS?
WE NEED TO START CONNECTING THEM
TO THE REAL WORLD.
WE NEED TO BE TRAINING THEM FOR
THE JOBS OF THE 21st CENTURY,
NOT THE JOBS OF 20 YEARS AGO.
WE NEED VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
STARTING IN THE SEVENTH GRADE
WHERE KIDS CAN GET THAT KIND OF
EDUCATION THAT CAN TAKE THEM TO
COLLEGE BUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH
THEIR K THROUGH 12 THEY OUGHT TO
BE CONNECTED WITH THE REAL -- WITH REAL-WORLD JOBS.
FRANKLY WHAT OUGHT TO HAPPEN IS
WE OUGHT TO GET THEM TO PURSUE
THEIR GOD-GIVEN TALENTS AND CONNECT THEM WITH THE THINGS
THAT GIVE THEM PASSION.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S WE'RE
DOING IN OHIO.
COMBINED WITH MENTORING PROGRAMS TO TALK TO KIDS ABOUT WHAT THEIR
FUTURE CAN BE.
SO LET ME BE CLEAR -- LOCAL
CONTROL, OBVIOUSLY, HIGH STATE
STANDARDS.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
>> SENATOR CRUZ, YOU OBJECT TO
COMMON CORE.
GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS LOCAL
SCHOOL BOARDS DEVELOPING LOCAL
CURRICULUM TO MEET HIGHER STANDARDS.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
>> COMMON CORE IS A DISASTER.
AND IF I AM ELECTED PRESIDENT IN
THE FIRST DAYS AS PRESIDENT, I
WILL DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THAT COMMON CORE ENDS
THAT DAY.
NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHY YOU CAN
DO THAT.
IT'S EASY TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROBLEM BUT YOU HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THE SOLUTIONS.
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS
ABUSED EXECUTIVE POWER ENFORCING
COMMON CORE ON THE STATES.
IT IS USED RACED TO THE TOP
FUNDS TO EFFECTIVELY BLACKMAIL
AND FORCE THE STATES TO ADOPT
COMMON CORE.
THE ONE SILVER LINING OF OBAMA
ABUSING EXECUTIVE POWER IS THAT
EVERYTHING DONE WITH EXECUTIVE
POWER CAN BE UNDONE WITH
EXECUTIVE POWER.
AND I INTEND TO DO THAT.
BEYOND THAT, THOUGH, JAKE, I
INTEND TO WORK TO ABOLISH THE
FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
AND SEND EDUCATION BACK TO THE
STATES AND BACK TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND LET ME SAY FINALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT REFORM WE CAN DO IN
EDUCATION AFTER GETTING THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT IS
EXPAND SCHOOL CHOICE.
EXPAND CHARTER SCHOOLS AND HOME
SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND
VOUCHERS AND SCHOLARSHIPS AND GIVE EVERY CHILD,
AFRICAN-AMERICAN, HISPANIC,
EVERY CHILD IN NEED AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS TO A
QUALITY EDUCATION.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC OF PARTICULAR INTEREST
HERE IN FLORIDA.
FLORIDA HAS THE HIGHEST
PERCENTAGE OF SENIORS IN THE
COUNTRY.
THERE ARE 3.1 MILLION SENIOR
CITIZENS HERE WHO RECEIVE SOCIAL
SECURITY BENEFITS, AND THEY ARE
VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT
YOU CANDIDATES INTEND TO DO TO
KEEP SOCIAL SECURITY GOING FOR
FUTURE GENERATIONS.
LET ME TURN TO DANA BASH.
>> SENIORITY RUBIO, YOU ARGUE
AMERICANS YOUR AGE MUST HAVE AN
HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING
SOCIAL SECURITY SUSTAINABLE.
FOR PEOPLE UNDER 55, YOU WANT TO
RAISE THE RETIREMENT AGE AND
ALSO REDUCE BENEFITS FOR
WEALTHIER AMERICANS.
SO WHAT SHOULD THE NEW
RETIREMENT AGE BE, AND HOW MUCH
WILL THOSE BENEFITS BE CUT?
>> LET ME SAY THAT YOU ARE
RIGHT.
THERE ARE ABOUT 3 MILLION
SENIORS IN FLORIDA, WITH SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.
ONE OF THEM IS MY MOTHER WHO
HAPPENS TO BE HERE TODAY.
I'M AGAINST ANY CHANGES TO
SOCIAL SECURITY THAT ARE BAD FOR
MY MOTHER.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY
CHANGES FOR THEM.
BUT ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT
SOCIAL SECURITY SCAN STAY THE
WAY IT IS, IS LYING.
ANY POLITICIAN THAT GOES AROUND
SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS RAISE A FEW
TAXES OR LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS
THEY AREN'T BEING HONEST.
SOCIAL SECURITY WILL GO BANKRUPT
AND BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY WITH
IT.
IT REQUIRES PEOPLE YOUNGER, LIKE
MYSELF, PEOPLE 30 YEARS AWAY
FROM RETIREMENT, TO ACCEPT THAT
OUR SOCIAL SECURITY IS GOING TO
WORK DIFFERENTLY THAN IT DID FOR
MY PARENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF RETIRING
AT 67, THE WAY I'M SUPPOSED TO
RETIRE, I'D HAVE TO RETIRE AT 68.
IF I WERE STILL IN THE SENATE,
I'D BE ONE OF THE YOUNGEST
PEOPLE THERE.
IF I MADE A LOT OF MONEY, MY
SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT WILL NOT
GROW AS FAST AS SOMEONE WHO MADE
LESS MONEY.
MEDS CARE COULD BECOME THE
OPTION OF USING MY MEDS CARE
BENEFIT TO BUY A PRIVATE PLAN I LIKE.
MEDICARE ADVANTAGE DOES THAT
NOW.
THESE ARE NOT UNREASONABLE
THINGS TO ASK FOR SOMEONE WHO IS
30 YEARS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT IF
IT MEANS LEAVING THE PROGRAM
UNDISTURBED FOR THOSE ON IT NOW OR ABOUT TO BE ON IT AND MAKING
SURE WE DO NOT BANKRUPT OUR
COUNTRY AND THAT THIS SYSTEM
STILL EXISTS WHEN I RETIRE OR
WHEN MY CHILDREN RETIRE.
>> THE QUESTION WAS SPECIFICS,
THE THOUGH. MADE YOUR PLAN VERY CLEARLY
ABOUT GENERALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO
DO.
HOW HIGH WOULD THE RETIREMENT
AGE GO AND HOW MUCH WOULD YOU
CUT --
>> SOMEONE MY AGE WOULD RETIRE
AT 68.
WE'D ALLOW THE RETIREMENT AGE TO
INCREASE UNTIL IT HITS 70.
SO MY CHILDREN WOULD RETIRE AT 70.
I'D RETIRE AT 68.
A GRADUATING SCALE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE
MYSELF AND TED WHO ARE 45 YEARS
OLD, YEARS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT.
PEOPLE ON IT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE
TO CHANGE IT AT ALL.
IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE'LL
HAVE A DEBT CRISIS.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF IF.
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHEN.
IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS, ONLY
17% OF OUR BUDGET WILL REMAIN
DISCRETIONARY.
83% OF THE BUDGET IN LESS THAN
FIVE YEARS WILL BE SPENT ON
MEDICARE, MEDICAID, THE INTEREST
ON THE DEBT. ALL OF IT WILL BE EATEN UP BY
THAT.
THAT'S A DEBT CRISIS.
AND IT WILL BE DEBILITATING TO
OUR ECONOMY AND OUR CHILDREN
DESERVE BETTER THAN TO INHERIT A
DEBT CRISIS.
>> MR. TRUMP, YOU DON'T WANT TO
RAISE THE RETIREMENT AGE OR CUT
BENEFITS.
UNLESS ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE,
SOCIAL SECURITY IS PROJECTED TO
RUN OUT OF MONEY WITHIN 20 YEARS.
SO SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WOULD YOU
DO TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING?
>> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT YOU TO
UNDERSTAND THE DEMOCRATS, AND
I'VE WATCHED THEM VERY
INTENSELY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A
VERY, VERY BORING THING TO
WATCH, THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE
DOING NOTHING WITH SOCIAL
SECURITY. THEY ARE LEAVING IT THE WAY IT
IS. THEY WANT TO INCREASE IT.
THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY GIVE MORE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT,
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST. I'LL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY
POWER NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL
SECURITY, TO LEAVE IT THE WAY IT
IS, TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY RICH
AGAIN, BRING BACK OUR JOBS, GET
RID OF DEFICITS, GET RID OF
WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE WHICH IS RAMPANT IN THIS COUNTRY.
RAMPANT.
TOTALLY RAMPANT.
AND IT'S MY ABSOLUTE INTENTION
TO LEAVE SOCIAL SECURITY THE WAY
IT IS.
NOT INCREASE THE AGE AND TO
LEAVE IT AS IS.
YOU HAVE 22 YEARS, YOU HAVE A LONG TIME TO GO.
IT'S NOT LONG IN TERMS OF WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S
STILL A LONG TIME TO GO.
AND I WANT TO LEAVE SOCIAL
SECURITY AS IS.
I WANT TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY RICH
AGAIN SO WE CAN AFFORD IT.
I WANT TO BRING BACK OUR JOBS.
I WANT TO DO THINGS THAT WILL
MAKE US -- THAT WILL BRING BACK
GDP.
AS AN EXAMPLE, GDP WAS 0
ESSENTIALLY FOR THE LAST TWO
QUARTERS.
IF THAT EVER HAPPENED IN CHINA
YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A DEPRESSION
LIKE NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN.
THEY GO DOWN TO 7%, 8% AND IT'S
A NATIONAL TRAGEDY.
WE'RE AT ZERO.
WE'VE LOST OUR JOBS.
WE'VE LOST EVERYTHING. WE'RE LOSING EVERYTHING.
OUR JOBS ARE GONE.
OUR BUSINESSES ARE BEING TAKEN
OUT OF THE COUNTRY. I WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT
AGAIN AND LEAVE SOCIAL SECURITY
AS IS.
WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF WASTE,
FRAUD ABUSE AND BRING BACK BUSINESS.
>> SENATOR RUBIO, YOU WANT TO GET IN.
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH MR.
TRUMP.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WASTE,
FRAUD AND ABUSE.
AN INDEPENDENT BIPARTISAN
ORGANIZATION, THE COMMITTEE FOR
A RESPONSIBLE FEDERAL BUDGET,
SAYS IMPROPER PAYMENTS LIKE YOU
ARE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD
ONLY SAVE ABOUT $3 BILLION.
BUT IT WOULD TAKE $150 BILLION
TO MAKE SOCIAL SECURITY SOLVENT.
HOW WOULD YOU FIND ANOTHER $147
MILLION?
>> WE'RE THE POLICEMEN OF THE
WORLD. WE TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE
WORLD. WE'LL HAVE A STRONGER MILITARY,
MUCH STRONGER. OUR MILITARY IS DEPLETING.
WE TAKE CARE OF GERMANY.
WE TAKE CARE OF SAUDI ARABIA.
WE TAKE CARE OF JAPAN.
WE TAKE CARE OF SOUTH KOREA.
EVERY TIME THIS MANIAC FROM
NORTH KOREA DOES ANYTHING, WE
IMMEDIATELY SEND OUR SHIPS.
WE GET VIRTUALLY NOTHING.
WE HAVE 28,000 SOLDIERS ON THE
LINE BETWEEN NORTH KOREA AND
SOUTH KOREA.
WE HAVE SO MANY PLACES.
SAUDI ARABIA WAS MAKING A
BILLION DOLLARS A DAY, AND WE
WERE GETTING VIRTUALLY NOTHING TO PROTECT THEM.
WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A
DIFFERENT WORLD.
WE'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE REAL DEALS NOW.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE
WEALTH BACK TO OUR COUNTRY.
WE OWE $19 TRILLION.
WE'RE GOING TO BRING WEALTH BACK
TO OUR COUNTRY.
>> SENATOR RUBIO, WILL THAT BE
ENOUGH TO SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY?
>> NO. YOU'VE OUTLINED WHY.
THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
WHEN I RAN FOR SENATE I CAME OUT
AND SAID WE'D HAVE TO MAKE
CHANGES TO SOCIAL SECURITY.
PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THE TRUTH HERE IN FLORIDA.
FRAUD IS NOT ENOUGH.
CERTAINLY LET'S WIPE OUT THE FRAUD.
AS YOU SAID, IT WON'T ADD UP.
YOU ALREADY GAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
ON FOREIGN AID I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME AS WELL.
I'M AGAINST ANY SORT OF WASTING
MONEY ON FOREIGN AID.
IT'S LESS THAN 1% OF OUR FEDERAL
BUDGET. THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
WE CAN'T TIP TOE AROUND THIS.
FRAUD AND ABUSE.
LET'S GET RID OF FRAUD AND ABUSE
AND BE MORE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE
SPEND FOREIGN AID.
YOU STILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEFICIT
YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE UP.
IF WE DO NOT DO IT, WE WILL HAVE
A DEBT CRISIS.
NOT TO MENTION A CRISIS OF
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.
BOTH PARTIES HAVE TAKEN FAR TOO
LONG TO DEAL WITH IT.
IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES
CONFRONTING AMERICA.
IT'S BARELY BEEN ASKED IN ANY OF
THESE DEBATES.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT OR WE'LL
HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO OUR CHILDREN
WHY THEY INHERITED THIS DISASTER.
>> SENATOR RUBIO SAYS YOUR NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE?
SENATOR RUBIO SAYS YOUR NUMBERS
DON'T ADD UP.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE, MR. TRUMP?
>> I'M JUST SAYING VERY SIMPLY
WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
I'VE BEEN GOING OVER BUDGETS AND LOOKING AT BUDGETS.
WE DON'T BID THINGS OT.
WE DON'T BID OUT THE DRUG
INDUSTRY, PHARMACEUTICAL
INDUSTRY.
THEY DON'T GO OUT TO BID.
THEY JUST PAY ALMOST AS IF YOU WALK INTO A DRUG STORE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PAYING.
THE REASON IS THEY HAVE A
FANTASTIC LOBBY.
THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL THE
SENATORS, THE CONGRESSMEN.
THEY HAVE GREAT POWER AND DON'T
BID OUT. THE MILITARY IS NEVER PROPERLY
BID.
WE GO OUT TO MILITARY BIDS, IT'S NOT PROPERLY BID.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT SELL US THE
PRODUCT ARE OFTENTIMES THE
PRESIDENT WE DON'T WANT ONLY
BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR COMPANY
HAS POLITICAL JUICE, OKAY?
I'M SELF-FUNDING MY CAMPAIGN.
NOBODY IS GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF ME.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY'S MONEY.
I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING.
WE'LL GO OUT TO BID IN EVERY
FACET OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO SAVE A FORTUNE.
>> SENATOR CRUZ, YOU ADVOCATE
ALLOWING YOUNGER WORKERS TO PUT
SOME OF THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY
TAXES INTO PERSONAL ACCOUNTS.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO CRITICS WHO
SAY THAT MARKET VOLATILITY MEANS
THAT THIS IS A DISASTROUS
PROPOSAL?
>> NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO SEE
RESPONSIBILITY.
SOCIAL SECURITY RIGHT NOW IS
CAREENING TOWARDS INSOLVENCY, AND IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.
AND ANY POLITICIAN THAT DOESN'T
STEP FORWARD AND ADDRESS IT IS
NOT BEING A REAL LEADER.
WE NEED TO SEE POLITICAL COURAGE
TO TAKE THIS ON AND SAVE AND
STRENGTHEN SOCIAL SECURITY.
AND AS PRESIDENT, WHAT I WILL DO
FOR SENIORS, FOR ANYONE AT OR
NEAR RETIREMENT, THERE WILL BE
NO CHANGES WHATSOEVER.
EVERY BENEFIT WILL BE PROTECTED
TO THE LETTER.
BUT FOR YOUNGER WORKERS, WE NEED
TO GRADUALLY RAISE THE
RETIREMENT AGE.
FOR YOUNGER WORKERS, CHANGE THE
RATE OF GROWTH OF BENEFITS.
I AND WE NEED TO HAVE FOR YOUNGER
WORKERS THAT A PORTION OF YOUR
TAX PAYMENTS ARE IN PERSONAL
ACCOUNTS LIKE A 401(k) THAT YOU
OWN THAT YOU CONTROL THAT YOU
CAN PASS ON TO YOUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
WE'VE GOT LOTS OF CHALLENGES IN
THE WORLD. BUT THE ANSWER CAN'T JUST BE
WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND SAY
PROBLEM GO AWAY.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE
PROBLEMS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE REAL SOLUTIONS.
IT'S LIKE GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
IT IS VERY EASY.
HILLARY CLINTON SAYS SHE'LL CUT
WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE.
IF ONLY WE HAD SMARTER PEOPLE IN
WASHINGTON, THAT WOULD FIX THE
PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
THAT IS THE STATEMENT OF A
LIBERAL WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM.
HERE'S MY PHILOSOPHY.
THE LESS GOVERNMENT, THE MORE FREEDOM.
THE FEWER BUREAUCRATS, THE MORE PROSPERITY.
AND THERE ARE BUREAUCRATS IN
WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW WHO ARE
KILLING JOBS AND I'LL TELL YOU,
I KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
I WILL FIND THEM AND I WILL FIRE THEM.
>> DID YOU JUSTICE JUST COMPARE
DONALD TRUMP TO HILLARY CLINTON
ON THIS ISSUE?
>> I WILL LET DONALD SPEAK FOR
HIMSELF.
BUT THERE'S A REASON, IN MY
CAMPAIGN I'VE SET OUT A SPECIFIC
SPENDING CUT PLAN.
$500 BILLION.
I'VE SPECIFIED FIVE MAJOR
AGENCIES I'D ELIMINATE, 25
PROGRAMS.
AND DANA, YOU KNOW WHY POLITICAL CANDIDATES DON'T DO THAT?
BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE LOBBYISTS ATTACK YOU.
WHEN YOU SPECIFY THE PROGRAMS
YOU WOULD ELIMINATE, THEN YOU GET ATTACKED.
LET'S TALK FOR EXAMPLE BACK IN IOWA THE FIRST PRIMARY.
WHEN I WENT TO IOWA AND
CAMPAIGNED AGAINST ETHANOL
MANDATES, EVERYONE SAID THAT WAS
POLITICAL SUICIDE.
YOU CAN'T TAKE ON ETHANOL IN IOWA.
AND MY OPPONENTS ON THIS STAGE
NOT ONLY DIDN'T DO THE SAME.
THEY ATTACKED ME AND EVEN
PROMISED TO EXPAND CORPORATE
WELFARE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO STOP
BANKRUPTING OUR KIDS AND
GRANDKIDS, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE LOBBYIST
WHICH MEANS NOT JUST SOME
FANCIFUL WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE
BUT SPECIFYING THESE ARE THE
PROGRAMS I'LL ELIMINATE.
>> MR. TRUMP, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND?
>> IF YOU LOOK BACK TO IOWA, TED
DID CHANGE HIS VIEW AND HIS
STANCE ON ETHANOL QUITE A BIT AT
THE END.
NOT FULL ON, BUT HE DID CHANGE
HIS VIEW IN THE OPENS OF MAYBE
DOING WELL.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
IT WAS A FRONT PAGE STORY ALL
OVER THE PLACE, AND HE DID MAKE
A CHANGE.
>> SENATOR CRUZ?
>> LISTEN, IF YOU ARE FED UP
WITH WASHINGTON, THE QUESTION
YOU OUGHT TO BE ASKING IS WHO IS
WILLING TO TAKE ON WASHINGTON?
IT'S EASY TO HAVE LANGUAGE, I'M
FED UP WITH THE CORRUPTION IN
WASHINGTON.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A CANDIDATE WHO
HAS BEEN FUNDING LIBERAL
DEMOCRATS AND FUNDING THE
WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT, IT'S
VERY HARD TO IMAGINE HOW SUDDENLY THIS CANDIDATE IS GOING
TO TAKE ON WASHINGTON.
WHEN I STOOD UP AND LED THE
FIGHT AGAINST OBAMACARE,
WASHINGTON WAS FURIOUS AND
ATTACKED ME, BUT I DID IT
BECAUSE I WAS HONORING MY
COMMITMENT TO THE HARD-WORKING
MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY
WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS
BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE.
WHEN I LED THE FIGHT AGAINST
AMNESTY, IT'S BECAUSE I WAS STANDING WITH THE PEOPLE AGAINST
WASHINGTON.
AND IF YOU WANT TO TELL PEOPLE
YOU'RE GOING TO STAND AGAINST
WASHINGTON, THE QUESTION WE
SHOULD ASK IS, WHEN HAVE YOU
EVER STOOD UP TO THE LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON?
>> MR. TRUMP, I'LL LET YOU
RESPOND BECAUSE HE MENTIONED
YOU.
>> FIRST OF ALL, TED WAS IN
FAVOR OF AMNESTY.
NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
AND SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO RECENTLY
ENDORSED ME AND THERE'S NOBODY
TOUGHER ON THE BORDERS THAN
SHERIFF JOE. AND SENATOR JEFF SESSIONS, AN
INCREDIBLE MAN, ALSO ENDORSED ME.
THERE'S NOBODY THAT KNOWS MORE
ABOUT THE BORDERS THAN SENATOR
JEFF SESSIONS.
I WOULD SAY THIS.
WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH
SOLUTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE ANSWERS
TO THINGS.
AND SO FAR I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW CIVIL IT'S BEEN UP HERE.
>> GOVERNOR KASICH, LET'S GET BACK TO SOCIAL SECURITY.
YOU TOLD THE VOTER IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE TO, QUOTE, GET OVER
CUTS TO SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS
BECAUSE YOU HAVE A REFORM PLAN
AND THAT IS JUST THE REALITY YOU
SAY THAT IS OUT THERE.
WHY IS CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY
PAYMENTS THE SOLUTION?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE HEAR ABOUT TAKING ON WASHINGTON.
I TOOK ON WASHINGTON AND I WON.
I ACTUALLY GOT THE BUDGET
BALANCED WHEN I WAS A MEMBER OF
THE CONGRESS, THE CHAIRMAN OF
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
WE PAID DOWN A HALF A TRILLION
DOLLARS OF THE NATIONAL DEBT.
WE ALSO BALANCED THE BUDGET FOUR
YEARS IN A ROW, AND WE WERE JUST
GROWING JOBS LIKE CRAZY, AND THE
WAGE ISSUE WAS NOT EVEN AN ISSUE
THEN.
I ALSO HAD A PLAN IN 1999 TO
SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAKE
THE $5 TRILLION PROJECTED
SURPLUS AND NOT ONLY HAVE SOCIAL
SECURITY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
BUT ALSO TO GIVE THEM PRIVATE ACCOUNTS.
THERE ARE MORE 18-YEAR-OLDS WHO
BELIEVE THEY HAVE A BETTER
CHANCE OF SEEING A UFO THAN A
SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK AND A LOT
OF SENIORS WHO ARE VERY NERVOUS.
I HAVE A PLAN THAT DOESN'T
REQUIRE RAISING THE RETIREMENT
AGE.
IF YOU'VE HAD WEALTH THROUGHOUT
YOUR LIFETIME, WHEN THE TIME
COMES TO BE ON SOCIAL SECURITY,
YOU'LL STILL GET IT.
IT WILL SIMPLY BE LESS.
AND FOR THOSE THAT DEPEND ON
THAT SOCIAL SECURITY, THEY'LL GET THEIR FULL BENEFIT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MONKEY AROUND
WITH THE RETIREMENT AGE.
I'VE DONE ALL THIS BEFORE.
THIS IS NOT A THEORY.
DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS TO BALANCE
A BUDGET? YES.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO CUT
THEM.
IT MEANS YOU NEED TO INNOVATE
THEM, THE WAY WE DO IN THE 21st CENTURY.
NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE A BALANCED
BUDGET IN WASHINGTON, BUT WHEN I
WENT TO OHIO, WE WERE $8 BILLION IN THE HOLE AND NOW $2 BILLION
IN THE BLACK.
WE'RE UP 400,000 JOBS AND I WANT
TO GO BACK WITH THE SAME FORMULA
TO BEAT THE WASHINGTON INSIDERS
AGAIN.
AND I WILL GET IT DONE, AND THIS
COUNTRY WILL BE MUCH STRONGER
ECONOMICALLY AS A RESULT. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.
>> LET'S TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY NOW.
MR. TRUMP, ONE OF THE CONCERNS
YOUR OPPONENTS HAVE EXPRESSED
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS
CAMPAIGN IS THE NOTION THAT IN
THEIR ESTIMATION YOU HOLD VIEWS
THAT ARE AT DIRECT ODDS WITH
REPUBLICAN PARTY TRADITION.
HOW ARE YOU LOOKING TO
FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS ITS
POTENTIAL LEADER?
WHAT SHOULD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
STAND FOR IN 2016?
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T
REALLY THINK THAT.
I THINK I HOLD VIEWS THAT ARE
SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE PEOPLE.
WE ARE MORE INCLUSIVE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS AND THE
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE
BEEN POURING INTO THE POLLS,
IT'S THE BIGGEST STORY.
YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE
COMING IN.
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING.
I AM DIFFERENT IN ONE PRIMARY RESPECT.
AND THAT'S TRADE.
I FEEL THAT WE HAVE HAD HORRIBLE
NEGOTIATORS. HORRIBLE TRADE DEALS.
THE JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE
DISAPPEARING.
AND ESPECIALLY THE GOOD JOBS.
YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT JOBS
REPORTS, WHICH ARE REALLY DONE
SO THAT PRESIDENTS AND POLITICIANS LOOK GOOD.
ALL OF THESE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR
JOBS, WHEN THEY GIVE UP, THEY GO
HOME, THEY GIVE UP AND THEY ARE
CONSIDERED STATISTICALLY EMPLOYED.
SO THAT'S THAT.
BUT I WILL SAY, TRADE DEALS ARE
ABSOLUTELY KILLING OUR COUNTRY.
THE DEVALUATIONS OF THEIR
CURRENCIES BY CHINA AND JAPAN AND MANY, MANY OTHER COUNTRIES,
AND WE DON'T DO IT BECAUSE WE
DON'T PLAY THE GAME.
AND THE ONLY WAY WE'LL BE ABLE
TO DO IT IS WE'LL HAVE TO DO
TAXES UNLESS THEY BEHAVE.
IF YOU DON'T TAX CERTAIN
PRODUCTS COMING INTO THIS
COUNTRY FROM CERTAIN COUNTRIES
THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
UNITED STATES AND LAUGHING AT
OUR STUPIDITY, WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO LOSE BUSINESSES AND
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOSE
JOBS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE
WORKER OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS,
THEIR SALARY AND PAY HAVE GONE
DOWN, NOT UP.
IT'S GONE DOWN.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE'S
BEEN SUCH AN OUTPOURING OF LOVE
TO WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> SENATOR CRUZ, DONALD TRUMP
HAS SO FAR WON 35% OF THE VOTE.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP TO
HIS VISION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WRONG WITH THAT VISION?
>> WELL, DONALD IS RIGHT, FOR
EXAMPLE.
HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT
INTERNATIONAL TRADE.
HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THE PROBLEMS.
BUT HIS SOLUTIONS DON'T WORK.
FOR EXAMPLE, HIS SOLUTION ON
INTERNATIONAL TRADE, HE PROPOSED
EARLIER A 45% TARIFF ON FOREIGN GOODS.
HE BACKED AWAY FROM THAT
IMMEDIATELY AND MAY COME BACK
WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'LL BE
TONIGHT.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS.
WE'VE SEEN PRIOR PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES WHO PROPOSE TARIFFS.
AND THE EFFECT OF A 45% TARIFF
WOULD BE WHEN YOU GO TO THE
STORE, TO WALMART, WHEN YOU ARE
SHOPPING FOR YOUR KIDS, THE
PRICES YOU PAY GO UP 45%.
BUT NOT ONLY THAT.
WHEN YOU PUT THOSE IN PLACE
BECAUSE A TARIFF IS A TAX ON
YOU, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT
THE RESPONSE IS THAT THE
COUNTRIES WE TRADE WITH PUT IN THEIR OWN TARIFFS.
A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION THAT
WORKS IS THE TAX PLAN I'VE LAID
OUT WHICH WOULD ENABLE OUR EXPORTS TO BE TAX-FREE WOULD TAX
OUR IMPORTS, WOULD NOT RAISE
PRICES FOR AMERICANS AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN RECIPROCAL
TARIFFS.
>> THANK YOU. >> FIX THE PROBLEM, AND THAT'S
WHAT IS MISSING FROM WHAT DONALD SAYS.
>> MR. TRUMP, WE'LL LET YOU
RESPOND. >> THE 45% TAX IS A THREAT.
IT WAS NOT A TAX, IT WAS A
THREAT.
IT WILL BE A TAX IF THEY DON'T BEHAVE.
TAKE CHINA AS AN EXAMPLE.
I HAVE MANY FRIENDS, GREAT MANUFACTURERS THAT WANT TO GO
INTO CHINA.
THEY CAN'T.
CHINA WON'T LET THEM. WE TALK ABOUT FREE TRADE.
IT'S NOT FREE TRADE. IT'S STUPID TRADE.
CHINA DUMPS EVERYTHING THEY HAVE
OVER HERE.
NO TAX, NO NOTHING NO PROBLEMS,
NO CURFEWS, NO ANYTHING.
WE CAN'T GET INTO CHINA. I HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE,
MANUFACTURERS, THEY CAN'T GET IN.
WHEN THEY GET IN, THEY HAVE TO
PAY A TREMENDOUS TAX.
THE 45% IS A THREAT THAT IF THEY
DON'T BEHAVE IF THEY DON'T
FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS
SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT EQUAL ON
BOTH SIDES, WE WILL TAX YOU.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 45%.
COULD BE LESS.
BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING
BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY AND TRADE
AND DEALS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
OUR JOBS ARE GOING TO HELL.
>> SENATOR CRUZ?
>> JAKE, LET ME BE CLEAR WHAT
DONALD JUST SAID.
HE SAID THAT 45% TAX IS A
THREAT. AND MIND YOU, YOU ARE PAYING THE
TAX. IT'S NOT CHINA THAT PAYS THE TAX.
IT'S YOU THE WORKING MEN AND
WOMEN.
SO ASK YOURSELF AT HOME, HOW IS
THIS HELPING YOU?
IF YOUR WAGES HAVE BEEN STAGNANT
FOR 20 YEARS, IF YOU CAN'T PAY
THE BILLS, HOW DOES IT HELP YOU
TO HAVE A PRESIDENT COME AND
SAY, I'M GOING TO PUT A 45% TAX
ON DIAPERS WHEN YOU BUY DIAPERS,
ON AUTOMOBILES WHEN YOU BUY
AUTOMOBILES, ON CLOTHING WHEN
YOU BUY CLOTHING. THAT HURTS YOU.
IT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO GET BEYOND
RHETORIC OF CHINA BAD AND
ACTUALLY GET TO HOW DO YOU SOLVE
THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THIS
SOLUTION WOULD HURT JOBS AND
HURT HARD-WORKING TAXPAYERS IN
AMERICA.
>> OKAY --
>> JAKE, I HAVE TO SAY,
HONESTLY, IT'S JUST THE
OPPOSITE.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T
BEHAVE, WE WILL PUT ON A TAX OF
SOME AMOUNT, AND IT COULD BE A
LARGE AMOUNT, AND WE WILL START
BUILDING THOSE FACTORIES OR
THOSE PLANTS.
INSTEAD OF IN CHINA, WE'LL BUILD
THEM HERE AND PEOPLE WILL BUY
PRODUCT FROM HERE RATHER THAN
BUYING IT THROUGH CHINA WHERE
WE'RE BEING RIPPED OFF.
AND WE HAVE A $505 BILLION TRADE
DEFICIT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'LL BUILD OUR FACTORIES
HERE, AND WE'LL MAKE OUR OWN
PRODUCTS.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE.
AND THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT
FOR THE LAST LONG PERIOD OF TIME
IS OUR COUNTRY -- OUR COUNTRY IS
IN SERIOUS, SERIOUS TROUBLE.
IT'S A BUBBLE.
AND IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE.
BELIEVE ME.
>> ALL RIGHT.
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>>> WELCOME BACK TO THE CNN
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
IN MIAMI, FLORIDA.
MR. TRUMP, LET ME START WITH YOU.
LAST NIGHT YOU TOLD CNN, QUOTE,
ISLAM HATES US.
DID YOU MEAN ALL 1.6 BILLION
MUSLIMS?
>> I MEAN A LOT OF THEM.
I MEAN A LOT OF THEM.
>> DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THE
COMMENT AT ALL?
>> I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE DEBATE TODAY.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RADICAL
ISLAMIC TERRORISM OR RADICAL ISLAM.
I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S
SOMETHING GOING ON THAT MAYBE
YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT, MAYBE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
ABOUT, BUT THERE'S TREMENDOUS
HATRED.
AND I WILL STICK WITH EXACTLY WHAT I SAID TO ANDERSON COOPER.
>> SENATOR RUBIO, YOUR
SUPPORTER, REPUBLICAN SENATOR
JEFF SESSIONS, SAID IN RESPONSE
TO MR. TRUMP'S COMMENT LAST
NIGHT, I'M SORRY -- SENATOR JEFF
FLAKE, I APOLOGIZE, YOUR
SUPPORTERS, SAID IN RESPONSE TO THAT COMMENT REPUBLICANS ARE
BETTER THAN THIS. DO YOU AGREE?
>> LET ME SAY, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FIND APPEAL IN THE
THINGS DONALD SAYS.
BECAUSE HE SAYS WHAT PEOPLE WISH
THEY COULD SAY. THE PROBLEM IS PRESIDENTS CAN'T
JUST SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT. IT HAS CONSEQUENCES HERE AND
AROUND THE WORLD.
AND SO LET ME GIVE YOU ONE.
TWO DAYS AGO, I MET THIS
EXTRAORDINARY COUPLE WHO ARE ON
FURLOUGH BECAUSE THEY ARE
MISSIONARIES IN BANGLADESH.
IT'S A VERY TOUGH PLACE TO BE A
MISSIONARY.
IT'S MUSLIM.
THEIR SAFETY AND SECURITY RELIES
UPON FRIENDLY MUSLIMS THAT LIVE
ALONGSIDE THEM THAT MAY NOT
CONVERT BUT PROTECT THEM AND
LOOK OUT FOR THEM.
AND THEIR MISSION FIELD REALLY
ARE MUSLIMS LOOKING TO CONVERT
TO CHRISTIANITY.
THEY TELL ME TODAY THEY HAVE A
HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THE
NEWS IS COMING OUT THAT IN
AMERICA LEADING POLITICAL
FIGURES ARE SAYING THAT AMERICA
DOESN'T LIKE MUSLIMS.
THIS IS A REAL IMPACT.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT RADICAL
ISLAM IS A DANGER IN THE WORLD.
I CAN ALSO TELL YOU IF YOU GO TO
ANY NATIONAL CEMETERY,
ESPECIALLY ARLINGTON, YOU'LL SEE CRESCENT MOONS THERE.
IF YOU GO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD
YOU'LL SEE AMERICAN MEN AND
WOMEN SERVING US IN UNIFORM THAT
ARE MUSLIMS.
AND THEY LOVE AMERICA.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE ON
THIS STAGE HAS SERVED IN UNIFORM
IN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY.
ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS THE
UNIFORM OF THE UNITED STATES ON
AND IS WILLING TO DIE FOR THIS
COUNTRY IS SOMEONE THAT LOVES
AMERICA.
NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RELIGIOUS
BACKGROUND MAY BE.
>> MR. TRUMP?
>> MARCO TALKS ABOUT
CONSEQUENCES.
WELL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
CONSEQUENCES, INCLUDING
AIRPLANES FLYING INTO THE WORLD
TRADE CENTER, THE PENTAGON AND
COULD HAVE BEEN THE WHITE HOUSE.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
PROBLEMS.
NOW YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT,
AND YOU CAN BE POLITICALLY CORRECT IF YOU WANT.
I DON'T WANT TO BE SO
POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I LIKE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
WE HAVE A SERIOUS, SERIOUS
PROBLEM OF HATE.
THERE IS TREMENDOUS HATE.
WE'RE LARGE PORTIONS OF A GROUP
OF PEOPLE, ISLAM, LARGE PORTIONS
WANT TO USE VERY, VERY HARSH
MEANS.
LET ME GO A STEP FURTHER.
WOMEN ARE TREATED HORRIBLY.
YOU KNOW THAT. YOU DO KNOW THAT.
WOMEN ARE TREATED HORRIBLY, AND
OTHER THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT
ARE VERY, VERY BAD.
NOW I WILL SAY THIS, THERE IS
TREMENDOUS HATRED.
THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT DO
YOU THINK?
I SAID THERE IS HATRED.
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SAY
SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY.
AND EVERYBODY WOULD SAY, OH,
ISN'T THAT WONDERFUL.
>> MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU.
>> WE BETTER SOLVE THE PROBLEM
BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
>> SENATOR RUBIO?
>> I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BEING
POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BEING
POLITICALLY CORRECT.
I'M INTERESTED IN BEING CORRECT.
AND IN ORDER TO BE CORRECT ON
THIS ISSUE, HERE'S THE BOTTOM
LINE.
WE DO WORK.
THERE IS ISLAM HAS A MAJOR
PROBLEM ON ITS HANDS.
IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE
OF ITS ADHERE RENTS,
PARTICULARLY IN THE SUNNI FAITH,
BUT ALSO THE SHIA WHO HAVE BEEN
RADICALIZED AND ARE WILLING TO
FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS AND
KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.
THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. IT IS ALSO TRUE IF YOU LOOK
AROUND THE WORLD AT THE CHALLENGES WE FACE, WE ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH
OTHER -- WITH MUSLIMS WHO DO NOT -- WHO ARE NOT RADICALS.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
JORDAN DANIAN KINGDOM.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH
THE SAUDIS. WE'RE GOING HAVE TO WORK WITH
THE GULF KINGDOMS.
WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
EGYPTIANS TO DEFEAT THE SUNNI ISIS.
IT WILL TAKE A SUNNI ARAB MOVEMENT TO DEFEAT THEM.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK
WITH PEOPLE IN THE MUSLIM FAITH
EVEN AS ISLAM ITSELF FACES A
SERIOUS PROBLEM WITHIN IT OF
RADICALIZATION. >> THANK YOU.
GOVERNOR KASICH?
DO YOU THINK ISLAM HATES US?
>> NO, I DON'T.
I THINK THERE IS A SECT OF THIS
RADICAL ISLAM THAT IS REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS AND POSES THE
GREATEST THREAT TO US TODAY.
THERE ISN'T ANY QUESTION.
THAT'S WHY THE WHOLE WORLD HAS
TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE
DON'T HAVE PROLIFERATION OF
THESE WEAPONS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION.
BUT LOOK I WAS THERE WHEN --
AND SAW IT WHEN THE EGYPTIAN
AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES
WAS IN THE ROSE GARDEN BRINGING
THE ARAB MUSLIM WORLD TO WORK
WITH US TO REPEL SADDAM HUSSEIN FROM KUWAIT.
THE FACT IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING
TO DEFEAT ISIS WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO HAVE THESE COUNTRIES.
AND THEY ARE EGYPT AND THEY ARE
SAUDI ARABIA AND THEY ARE
JORDAN, AND THEY'RE THE GULF
STATES. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER A
APROCHPMENT.
WITH TURKEY AND I THINK THEY
WENT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION WHEN
THEY REJOINED TURKEY AND FROM
JOINING INTO THE ECONOMIC SPHERE OF EUROPE.
THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER IS A LOT OF THESE MUSLIMS COUNTRIES
CAN'T BELIEVE THE STUFF THEY SEE
OUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISTORTED THEIR FAITH.
THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT RADICAL
ISLAM, THEY WANT TO DESTROY
EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ABOUT AND OTHER MUSLIMS WHO DON'T SHARE
THEIR VIEW, BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY, WE GOT TO BRING THE WORLD TOGETHER, THE CIVILIZED
WORLD, AND WE ALL BRING WITH ONE
VOICE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SIT ON
THE FENCE UNDERSTAND WHAT
CIVILIZATION IS AND WE REPRESENT IT AND EQUALITY AND HOPE FOR
EVERYBODY.
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR KASICH.
MR. TRUMP, I WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE YOU SAID
DURING THE COURSE OF THIS
CAMPAIGN. YOU SAID THE U.S. HAS TO, QUOTE,
TAKE OUT THE FAMILIES OF
TERRORISTS.
WHEN IT WAS POINTED OUT
TARGETING CIVILIANS WAS AGAINST
THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, YOU
SAID QUOTE, SO THEY CAN KILL US
BUT WE CAN'T KILL THEM?
HOW WILL YOU ORDER THE MILITARY TO DEAL WITH FAMILIES OF
SUSPECTED TERRORISTS WHILE
ABIDING BY THE LAW?
>> FIRST OF ALL LET ME GO BACK
TO THE OTHER JUST FOR A SECOND.
IN LARGE MOSQUES ALL OVER THE
MIDDLE EAST, YOU HAVE PEOPLE
CHANTING "DEATH TO THE USA."
THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A FRIENDLY ACT TO ME.
AS FAR AS THE FAMILIES ARE
CONCERNED AND AS FAR AS THE LAW
IS CONCERNED, WE HAVE A LAW --
THIS ALL STARTED WITH YOUR QUESTION ON WATERBOARDING.
WE HAVE A LAW THAT DOESN'T ALLOW
RIGHT NOW WATERBOARDING.
THEY HAVE NO LAWS.
THEY HAVE NO RULES.
THEY HAVE NO REGULATIONS.
THEY CHOP OFF HEADS, THEY DROWN
40, 50, 60 PEOPLE AT A TIME IN
BIG STEEL CAGES, PULL THEM UP AN
HOUR LATER, EVERYONE DEAD, AND
WE'RE WORKING ON A DIFFERENT SET
OF PARAMETERS.
NOW, WE HAVE TO OBEY THE LAWS,
OKAY HAVE TO OBEY THE LAWS.
BUT WE HAVE TO EXPAND THOSE LAWS
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
FIGHT ON AT LEAST SOMEWHAT OF AN
EQUAL FOOTING OR WE WILL NEVER,
EVER KNOCK OUT ISIS AND ALL OF
THE OTHERS THAT ARE SO BAD. WE BETTER EXPAND OUR LAWS OR
WE'RE BEING A BUNCH OF SUCKERS
AND THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US. THEY ARE LAUGHING AT US.
BELIEVE ME.
>> SENATOR RUBIO, WOULD YOU AS
PRESIDENT PURSUE A POLICY OF
TARGETING THE FAMILIES OF SUSPECTED TERRORISTS?
>> NO, OF COURSE NOT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO IN ORDER TO DEFEAT
TERRORISTS.
THE WAY YOU DEFEAT TERRORISTS IS
PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE.
WHEN I'M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES THE BEST INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES IN THE WORLD THAT RIGHT
NOW HAVE BEEN HAMSTRUNG, THEY'RE
GOING TO FIND TERRORISTS.
AND THE BEST MILITARY WHICH
NEEDS TO BE REBUILT BECAUSE
BARACK OBAMA IS GUTTING OUR
MILITARY, HE IS GOING TO LEAVE
US WITH THE SMALLEST ARMY SINCE
THE END OF WORLD WAR II AND THE
SMALLEST NAVY IN A CENTURY AND
THE SMALLEST AIR FORCE WE'VE EVER HAD.
WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD THAT
MILITARY AND THAT MILITARY WILL
REBUILD THEM.
AND IF WE CAPTURE THEM ALIVE,
THEY WILL GO TO GUANTANAMO BAY,
CUBA.
AND FIND OUT EVERYTHING WE KNOW
AND DO SO LEGALLY.
>> SENATOR CRUZ, YOU TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THE RULES OF
ENGAGEMENT OF BATTLE AGAINST ISIS.
WOULD THAT INCLUDE TARGETING THE FAMILIES OF SUSPECTED
TERRORISTS? >> NO, OF COURSE NOT, WE'VE
NEVER TARGETED INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO
START NOW.
LISTEN, JAKE, I UNDERSTAND. PEOPLE ARE SCARED.
FOR SEVEN YEARS WE FACED
TERRORIST ATTACKS AND PRESIDENT
OBAMA LECTURES AMERICANS ON
ISLAMOPHOBIA.
THAT IS MADDENING.
THE ANSWER IS NOT TO YELL CHINA
BAD, MUSLIMS BAD.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE
NATURE OF THE THREATS WE'RE
FACING AND HOW YOU DEAL WITH
THEM.