HEY, GOOD MORNING. I'M BRIAN STELTER, AND IT'S TIME
FOR "RELIABLE SOURCES." OUR WEEKLY LOOK AT THE STORY
BEHIND THE STORY. HOW THE MEDIA REALLY WORKS, HOW
THE NEWS REALLY GETS MADE. WE HAVE A LOT TO ANALYZE THIS
MORNING. DONALD TRUMP IS MAKING UP A
MASSIVE MEDIA CONSPIRACY, FALSELY CLAIMING THAT WE ARE
RIGGING THE ELECTION. HE EVEN WANTS "SATURDAY NIGHT
LIVE" CANCELED. I'LL HAVE A RESPONSE COMING UP.
PLUS, CLINT GREENWALD IS LIVE IN NEW YORK TO DISCUSS THE
WIKILEAKS DUMP. AND WE'LL HAVE BILLY BUSH HERE.
HE'S ONE HALF OF THE FALLOUT FROM THAT VULGAR "ACCESS
HOLLYWOOD" TAPE. IMAGINE FOR ME A ROW OF
DOMINOES. SO MANY DOMINOES HAVE FALLEN
SINCE THAT TAPE WAS LEAKED NINE DAYS AGO.
NEW ALLEGATIONS KEEP SURFACING AS MORE AND MORE WOMEN COME
FORWARD ACCUSING TRUMP OF UNWANTED SEXUAL ADVANCES.
WITH THAT IN MIND, TAKE A JOURNEY BACK IN TIME FOR A
MOMENT. THESE TABLOID SEX SCANDALS HELP
FUEL THE MEDIA RISE OF DONALD TRUMP AS A PLAYBOY, A RISING TV
PERSONA DECADES AGO. BUT COULD THESE SAME STORIES
DERAIL HIS CHANCES OF WINNING THE WHITE HOUSE?
IS THE TRUMP OF TODAY THE SAME TRUMP OF THE '90S?
WHAT CAN HIS PAST TELL US ABOUT A TRUMP PRESIDENCY?
WE HAVE A PANEL TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
JOINING ME ARE THREE MEN WHO KNOW TRUMP BETTER THAN ANYONE.
TRUMP BIOGRAPHERS. BRAD THOMAS, AUTHOR OF "THE
TRUMP FACTOR, UNLOCKING THE SECRETS BEHIND THE TRUMP
EMPIRE." GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL.
BRAD, LET ME START WITH YOU. YOU WERE WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
ON FRIDAY. YOU'VE BEEN PAYING CLOSE
ATTENTION TO HOW TRUMP IS ENGAGING HERE.
ARE YOU SURPRISED BY HIS RECENT BEHAVIOR SAYING THAT HILLARY
CLINTON SHOULD TAKE A DRUG TEST, SAYING THERE IS A MASSIVE MEDIA
CONSPIRACY AGAINST HIM. BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT
HIM, ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THIS? NO, I'M NOT, BRIAN.
I WAS AT THE RALLY IN CHARLOTTE ON FRIDAY.
I'VE ATTENDED QUITE A FEW RALLIES OVER THE LAST YEAR OR
SO, AND I'M SEEING THESE VOTERS REALLY STARTING TO GAIN MORE
ENERGY. DONALD TRUMP HAS REALLY
ENERGIZED THIS CAMPAIGN, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF THE
MEDIA HAS ENERGIZED HIS BRAND. THE POLLS SHOW ENTHUSIASM FOR
TRUMP IS ACTUALLY WANING. ARE YOU TRYING TO TAKE THE
ANECDOTES FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND SAY THEY APPLY TO THE
ENTIRE COUNTRY? I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE POLLS
IN DETAIL. THE MARKET IS ULTIMATELY GOING
TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS. WE ARE THREE WEEKS AWAY FROM
THIS ELECTION, AND I THINK THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ARE
THE FUNDAMENTALS TODAY DRIVING THIS CAMPAIGN, WHICH ARE
SECURITY AND FINANCIAL SECURITY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE VOTERS
REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS.
YOU'RE SAYING HE SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT THE ACCUSERS, STOP
ATTACKING THESE WOMEN? WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK
THE VOTERS WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE'S RUNNING ON.
SAME FOR HILLARY. AND I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE
TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT REALLY VOTERS WANT TO HEAR ABOUT
RIGHT NOW. IT'S THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THIS
COUNTRY FOCUSING ON THE FINANCIAL SECURITY OF THIS
COUNTRY AND FOCUSING ON SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY.
THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
WE ARE THREE WEEKS AWAY FROM THIS ELECTION.
THREE WEEKS. WITH THAT IN MIND, TIM, LET
ME ASK YOU. DO YOU THINK THE PRESS HAS
OVERPLAYED THESE ACCUSER STORIES?
THERE HAS BEEN WALL-TO-WALL COVERAGE OF SEXUAL ASSAULT
ALLEGATIONS AGAINST TRUMP FOR ALMOST THE LAST WEEK.
WE KNOW THIS GOT STARTED BECAUSE OF THE TAPE THAT GOT
LEAKED. AND THEN THE DEBATE QUESTION
BY ANDERSON COOPER. HE SAID I'VE ALWAYS BEEN
ABOUT WORDS. BILL CLINTON HAS BEEN ABOUT
ACTIONS. HE THREW THE GAUNTLET DOWN WHO
SAID, HAS ANYBODY BEEN ASSAULTED BY ME?
LO AND BEHOLD, THE FLOODGATES OPENED.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE TOO MUCH COVERAGE OF THIS.
WOMEN FEELING FREE TO COME FORWARD ABOUT MEN SEXUALLY
OR PHYSICALLY ABUSING THEM IS NOT A LONG TRADITION IN THIS
COUNTRY. I THINK FOR A LOT OF WOMEN, THE
ISSUE COMES UP, WOW, IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.
WHY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT IT NOW?
AS WE SAW IN THE BILL COSBY CASE AND ROGER AILES CASE, I THINK
WOMEN SOMETIMES NEED OTHER WOMEN TO COME FORWARD TO FEEL
EMPOWERED THEMSELVES TO SPEAK ABOUT ABUSE.
YOUR MOST RECENT BOOK WAS ABOUT ABUSE IN THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH. DO YOU SEE PARALLELS?
ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS THE WAY THINGS WORK, AND
I'M ALMOST SHOCKED NO ONE IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN SEEMS TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS AREA SINCE THE 1990S.
WHENEVER AN ABUSED PERSON FINALLY GETS THE COURAGE TO COME
FORWARD, OTHERS WITH THE SAME EXPERIENCE COME FORWARD ALSO.
NONE OF THESE PREDATORY FIGURES HAVE JUST ONE VICTIM.
I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING, TOO, AND IT'S CONSISTENT, IS THAT
THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME AGE VICTIM, THE SAME ROUGH PROFILE
OF APPEARANCE, AND THEY ALSO CONDUCT THE SAME BEHAVIOR.
TRUMP'S DENIALS THIS WEEK, A NUMBER OF STATEMENTS FROM THE
CAMPAIGN, A NUMBER OF COMMENTS AT RALLIES.
IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH HIS BEHAVIOR OVER THE DECADES?
HIS RULE IS TO NEVER ADMIT ANYTHING.
DENY EVERYTHING AND THEN FLING AN ACCUSATION BACK AT THE OTHER
PERSON. YOU CAN OFTEN HEAR WHAT HE'S
WORRIED ABOUT BY SEEING WHAT HE CRITICIZES PEOPLE FOR.
IF HE SAYS, LET'S DO A DRUG TEST BECAUSE I THINK HILLARY LOST
ENERGY AT THE LAST DEBATE, IT'S BECAUSE AT THE FIRST DEBATE,
DONALD RAN OUT OF GAS AND EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, WHY DID HE
LOSE ENERGY? SO WE SHOULD EXPECT HE'S GOING
TO ACCUSE HILLARY OF ALMOST ANYTHING BECAUSE HE FEELS UNDER
ATTACK, AND HE'S NOT GOING TO COME CLEAN AND SAY ANYTHING
HONEST ABOUT THESE CHARGES. LET ME ASK BRAD.
BRAD, WHERE DO YOU THINK TRUMP'S CONSPIRATORIAL MINDSET COMES
FROM? YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY SAY
THIS, BRIAN. LOOK, THIS IS A BUSINESSMAN.
I HAVE VISITED EVERY PROPERTY IN THE WORLD THAT DONALD TRUMP
OWNS. I'VE MET WITH ALL OF HIS
EMPLOYEES. I STARTED WRITING MY BOOK OVER
THREE YEARS AGO. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A PRETTY
GOOD KNOWLEDGE AND PROBABLY THE BEST KNOWLEDGE OF DONALD TRUMP'S
BUSINESSES THAN ANYBODY ON THE PLANET, INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP.
WHEN YOU SAY CONSPIRACY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT IT MEANS.
IF TRUMP IS A BILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMAN, THEN HE KNOWS THERE
IS NOT A MASSIVE CORPORATE CONSPIRACY AGAINST HIM.
HE KNOWS THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE HE'S AN ELITIST, AN
INSIDER. HE KNOWS HOW IT REALLY WORKS.
YOU'RE ASKING ME? THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY A
CONSPIRATORIAL MIND. WHAT HE SAID ON THURSDAY,
TALKING ABOUT THE BANKS AND CORPORATIONS AND GLOBALISTS, IT
CAME AWFULLY CLOSE TO ANTI-SEMITIC LANGUAGE.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH HIM, WHERE
DOES THAT COME FROM? I REALLY DON'T.
THIS IS A GUY WHO HAS CREATED HIS BRAND AND HIS FOLLOWERS
BECAUSE OF HIS BOLD DEMEANOR. AND HE COMES ACROSS AS A VERY
TOUGH, STRONG INDIVIDUAL. AND THAT'S HOW HE'S BEEN ABLE TO
REALLY GROW HIS BRAND OVER THE YEARS TO BECOME THIS SUCCESSFUL
BUSINESSMAN. AGAIN, BRIAN, I WROTE A BOOK
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S BUSINESSES. I DIDN'T WRITE A BOOK ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP'S POLITICS. I COVERED ALL THE BUSINESSES IN
VERY GRANULAR DETAIL. I CERTAINLY CAN SPEAK MORE
ABOUT -- THAT'S WHY I'M SURPRISED THAT
HE'S CLAIMING THESE CONSPIRACIES THAT DON'T EXIST.
TIM, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THREATS.
AN INCREDIBLY STRANGE WEEK. HE THREATENED TO SUE THE "NEW
YORK TIMES" BECAUSE THEY PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS FROM SEVERAL
OF THESE WOMEN. I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A
LAWSUIT FILED. I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A
LAWSUIT FILED, BUT HE DID SUE YOU?
WHAT IS THE ACTION HE TAKES WHEN HE DOES SUE A JOURNALIST?
I THINK DONALD TRUMP SAYING THIS IS A CONSPIRACY, THE
ELECTIONS ARE RIGGED, YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL LOSING BADLY IN
THE POLLS. IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO LOSE
BADLY IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, SO HE HAS NO PROBLEM SAYING,
IT'S RIGGED. I WILL BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP
FOR SELF-PRESERVATION REASONS. HE'S FINDING CONSPIRACIES
EVERYWHERE BECAUSE IF THERE IS A CONSPIRACY, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT
WAS HIS FAULT IF HE LOST. IT'S A SELFISH THING TO DO,
ISN'T IT? IT'S DESTRUCTIVE AND
DANGEROUS. IT'S BEYOND THAT.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE USING THE MEDIA FOR HIS OWN NEEDS.
WHAT A DANGEROUS MOMENT IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
HE SUED ME FOR LIBEL IN 2006. HE LOST THAT CASE.
HE SAT THROUGH A DISCOVERY THAT WAS VERY TROUBLING FOR HIM.
A DISCOVERY PROCESS. SHOULD HE SUE THE MEDIA NOW
AROUND THESE ALLEGATIONS FROM WOMEN THAT HE'S A SOCIAL
PREDATOR, HE'LL GO THROUGH A BRUTAL DISCOVERY PROCESS IN
THAT. MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE'S MAKING
THESE THREATS TO SUE, I THINK, TO TRY TO CHILL THE MEDIA.
I THINK THE MEDIA WAS SLOW TO REPORT AGGRESSIVELY ON THE TRUMP
PHENOMENON, BUT ONCE IT GOT ITS FOOTING, THE MEDIA HAS BEEN A
VERY IMPORTANT FORCE IN THIS ELECTION IN TERMS OF OUTING SOME
OF THE THINGS THE PUBLIC DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND
SHOULD KNOW. HE'S NOW USING THREATS OF
LAWSUITS TO CHILL THE MEDIA. MICHAEL, DO YOU AGREE THAT
WAS THE INTENT OF HIS CLAIMS? OH, SURE.
INTENT IS THE NAME OF THE GAME WITH HIM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AND SAY
DONALD GREW THINGS ON HIS. I'M ALSO QUITE PRIVY TO GOOD
DATA ON BRAND EQUITY. I'M HEARING IN THE LAST TWO
WEEKS HIS BRAND EQUITY IS PLUMMETING.
HE'S NOW PERCEIVED AS BORING. NOT BY THE ELETITES BUT BY THE
MIDDLE CLASS. ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU POLL
REPUBLICAN HOUSEHOLDS WITHOUT A COLLEGE EDUCATION, THEY'RE
TURNING OFF HIS BRAND. THEY MAY STILL VOTE FOR HIM BUT
THIS IS DOING LONG-TERM DAMAGE TO HIS BUSINESSES.
IF THE THREE OF YOU COULD STICK AROUND.
WE'D LOVE TO BRING YOU BACK LATER IN THE HOUR.
UP NEXT, MORE ON THIS MEDIA CONSPIRACY IDEA.
WHERE THE ALT RIGHT WEBSITE BROOIT BART'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS LEADING TO A CRACKUP OF CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.
YOU HAVE TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT RIGHT AFTER THE
BREAK.
WELCOME BACK. DONALD TRUMP TAKING HIS MEDIA
BASHING TO A NEW EXTREME THIS WEEKEND.
HE'S REPLACING HIS BIRTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY WITH ANOTHER,
EVEN GRANDER, CONSPIRACY. YES, HE IS CLAIMING THAT GLOBAL
ELITES, BANKS, POLITICIANS AND OF COURSE THE MEDIA, ARE ALL
CONSPIRING AGAINST HIM. THE ELECTION IS BEING RIGGED
BY CORRUPT MEDIA PUSHING COMPLETELY FALSE ALLEGATIONS AND
OUTRIGHT LIES IN AN EFFORT TO ELECT HER PRESIDENT.
CORRUPT MEDIA. IN TRUMP'S WORLD, JOURNALISTS
ARE REALLY JUST CLINTON CAMPAIGN WORKERS IN DISGUISE
COLLABORATING WITH HER IN AN ATTEMPT TO RIG THE ELECTION.
THIS IS NOT JUST FALSE, IT'S LUDICROUS, AND IT'S DAMAGING.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, HIS CURRENT CONSPIRACY THEORY IS RIPPED FROM
THESE PAGES, THE PAGES OF THE RIGHT WING WEBSITE BREITBART
NEWS. IT'S RIGHT THERE, THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA ARE COLLUDING TO ELECT HILLARY CLINTON.
HE EVEN CANCELED ON HIS FRIEND SEAN HANNITY THIS WEEK.
HE'S GIVING NO INTERVIEWS. NEITHER IS HILLARY CLINTON
PREPARING FOR THE DEBATE. WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF
THIS CONSPIRATORIAL TALK? JOINING ME NOW, SENIOR EDITOR AT
"THE ATLANTIC" AND MARGARET WITH THE "WASHINGTON POST."
MARGARET, WHAT DO WE EVEN SAY? HOW DO WE PROVE THAT WE ARE NOT
ALL CONSPIRING? BRIAN, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU
PROVE IT. IT'S AN ABSURD CLAIM.
I'VE SPENT DECADES IN THE NEWSPAPER BUSINESS.
I'VE WORKED AT THE "NEW YORK TIMES" AND THE "WASHINGTON
POST." NOBODY IS SITTING IN A ROOM WITH
EACH OTHER AND PLANNING TO, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING EVIL TO A
CANDIDATE. IT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED
THE MEDIA, MY COLLEAGUE AT THE "WASHINGTON POST," PAUL FARRY,
WROTE A GREAT PIECE ABOUT HOW THERE IS REALLY NO SUCH THING.
THERE ARE MEDIA OUTLETS, THERE ARE NEWSPAPERS, THERE ARE CABLE
TV STATIONS, THERE ARE NETWORK NEWS, BUT THERE IS NO LITTLE
GROUP CALLED THE MEDIA THAT GETS TOGETHER AND DECIDES TO DO
TERRIBLE THINGS TO DONALD TRUMP. HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT?
IT'S A REALITY CHECK. ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'RE ALL
MEDIAMAKERS. NOW THAT WE'RE ALL SNAPCHATTING
AND FACEBOOKING, WE ARE ALL MEDIA.
THE TRADITIONAL MEDIA, WE ARE COMPETITIVE.
WE'RE MARKET DRIVEN. I COMPETE WITH YOU, MARGARET.
I WANT TO BEAT YOU TO STORIES. THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT
DISCOURAGES WHAT TRUMP WOULD CALL COLLUSION IN THE MEDIA.
DAVID, IS THIS THE MOMENT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO COVER UP
SOMETHING CRAZY AND TREAT IT LIKE IT'S SANE?
TRUMP HAS A MORE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM THAN THAT.
REMEMBER THAT SCENE WHERE AUSTIN POWERS ASSURES ELIZABETH HURLEY,
THIS ISN'T MY BAG AND THE OFFICER PRODUCES A BAG WITH
AUSTIN POWER'S PICTURE ON IT THAT SAYS, YES, THIS IS MY BAG,
BABY. YOU'VE GOT THE VIDEOTAPE.
IF HIS CLAIM IS PEOPLE ARE INVENTING THESE TERRIBLE STORIES
ABOUT ME, THE STORIES ARE ALL VERIFIED AND AGREED AND APPROVED
AND ENDORSED AND PROVEN BY HIS OWN WORDS AND FACE.
ONE OF THE THINGS HE'S DOING HERE, IT'S A LITTLE LIKE THE
CLAIMS WHEN YOU GET THESE SCAMMED NIGERIAN E-MAILS,
THEY'RE DELIBERATELY INCREDIBLE BECAUSE THE SCAMMERS DON'T WANT
TO WEED OUT ANYONE WITH ANY SKEPTICISM.
IF THEY SENT YOU A PROPER NOTE THAT REALLY LOOKED LIKE IT WAS
FROM CITIBANK, YOU MIGHT PULL IN PEOPLE WHO WOULD JUMP OFF THE
TRAIN LATER. WHEREAS, IF YOU MAKE IT STUPID
FROM THE START, THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH REAL
SUCKERS. HOW DO WE PERSUADE 40% OF THE
COUNTRY THAT IS INCLINED TO BELIEVE TRUMP WHEN HE SAYS THE
MEDIA IS COLLUDING. MARGARET, YOU WERE EDITOR OF THE
"NEW YORK TIMES." DID YOU EVER FIND EVIDENCE THAT
"THE TIMES" WOULD MAKE UP SOURCES THE WAY TRUMP IS
ALLEGING? NO, THERE IS NO REASON TO
THINK THAT. I WAS CRITICAL OF "THE TIMES'"
USE OF SOURCES BUT I NEVER THOUGHT THEY WERE MADE UP.
RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MEDIA
CRACK-UP. WE'RE WITNESSING THIS
UNPRECEDENTED DIVIDE BETWEEN THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT WITH TRUMP AND
IT'S ALSO FRACTURING THE MEDIA. WHAT HAPPENS TO FOX NEWS AFTER
ELECTION DAY? HOW IS THIS AFFECTING
CONSERVATIVE MEDIA? FOX IS REELING FROM ITS OWN
INTERNAL TRAUMA. THE DEPARTURE OF ROGER AILES.
FOX NEWS IS CONFRONTING THAT EXISTENTIAL QUESTION.
IN PARKT, IT'S A GENUINE NEWS ENTITY WITH VERY CAPABLE PEOPLE.
YOU SEE THAT AT 6:00, YOU SEE THAT WITH MANY PEOPLE THAT WORK
AT FOX NEWS. THEN THERE'S THIS OTHER PART
THAT EXISTS WITH MAINLINE FANTASY INTO THE CONSERVATIVE
BLOODSTREAM. I SAID IN 2010 THAT REPUBLICANS
BEGAN BY THINKING FOX WORKED FOR US, THEN WE DISCOVERED WE ALL
WORKED FOR FOX. I TOOK SOME HEAT FOR THAT AT THE
TIME, BUT THAT HAS BECOME HALF OF THE FOX IDENTITY, NOT THE
OTHER HALF. AND THE QUESTION FOR THAT
NETWORK IS GOING TO BE, DO THEY WANT TO BE A TRUSTED NEWS
SOURCE, OR DO THEY WANT TO BE A FANTASY BUBBLE FOR PEOPLE -- A
SAFE SPACE, A REFUGE, FROM POLITICAL REALITY?
BREITBART AS WELL, THEIR ROLE OF BRINGING CONSPIRACY THEORIES
IN THE MAINSTREEN. YOU WROTE ABOUT STEVE BANNON.
NOW THE BREITBART BOSS. WHAT HAS BEEN HIS ROLE THIS WEEK
WITH TRUMP'S BEHAVIOR? WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAW
THE USE OF THE CLINTON ACCUSERS AT THE DEBATE, IT CERTAINLY
SEEMED TO HAVE THE NAME STEVE BANNON WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.
IT'S THE KIND OF THEATER THAT HE SPECIALIZES IN.
AND I THINK THAT HE IS A HUGE INFLUENCE ON THAT CAMPAIGN, AND
THE DISTANCE BETWEEN BREITBART AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS
VIRTUALLY NOTHING AT THIS POINT, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT FOR MANY
MONTHS. AND BREITBART, ITS IDEA IS
PUBLISHING IS A FORM OF WARFARE. MEDIA IS A FORM OF WARFARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING. DAVID, ONE LAST THOUGHT FOR YOU.
WE'LL HAVE THE DEBATE ON WEDNESDAY.
IT'S GOING TO BE MODERATED BY CHRIS WALLACE OF FOX NEWS.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME FOX NEWS HAS EVER MODERATED A LIBERAL DEBATE.
DO YOU THINK LIBERALS ARE RIGHT TO HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT
CHRIS WALLACE? WHO IS A BETTER INTERVIEWER
IN AMERICA THAN CHRIS WALLACE? HE'LL DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
MARGARET, DO YOU AGREE? I THINK CHRIS IS PRETTY
TOUGH. I WAS CONCERNED WHEN HE SAID HE
DIDN'T BELIEVE IN TRUTH SQUADDING OR FACT CHECKING.
THAT BOTHERED ME. I THINK HE'S A TOUGH, AGGRESSIVE
INTERVIEWER AND IT SHOULD BE -- IT'S A HELL OF A JOB AT THIS
POINT. I THINK HE MAY HAVE A HARDER
JOB THAN THE 50 THREE MODERATORS.
UP NEXT -- GLEN GREENWALD IS HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ONE ISSUE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA CAN
AGREE UPON. IT'S THAT THE MAINSTREAM PRESS
IS IGNORING THE WIKILEAKS RELEASE OF CLINTON CAMPAIGN
E-MAILS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN DEPTH
WITH GLEN RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK.
WELCOME BACK TO "RELIABLE SOURCES."
I'M BRIAN STELTER. DONALD TRUMP IS HEAPING PRAISE
ON WIKILEAKS WHILE THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN CONDEMNS THE
ONGOING PUBLICATION OF STOLEN E-MAILS FROM JOHN PODESTA.
WIKILEAKS IS PUBLISHING MORE E-MAILS EVERY DAY.
DESPITE TRUMP'S CLAIMS THE MEDIA IS IGNORING THIS.
THIS TYPE OF DOCUMENT DUMP IS IRRESISTIBLE TO JOURNALISTS.
IT'S PROVIDING A GLIMPSE INTO THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN. IT'S SHOWING EFFORTS TO CONTROL
AND SHAPE FAVORABLE NEWS COVERAGE.
WHAT ARE WE LEARNING AND HOW NEWSWORTHY ARE THESE REALLY?
JOINING ME NOW IS SOMEONE VERY FAMILIAR WITH REPORTING ON
LEAKED AND HACKED INFORMATION, THE MAN WHO HELPED BREAK THE
SNOWDEN LEAKS WIDE OPEN. YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO WIKILEAKS
HAS CHANGED. HOW SO?
IRONICALLY WIKILEAKS WAS ONE OF THE MOST VOCAL CRITICS ON HOW
WE REPORTOD THE SNOWDEN ARCHIVE. WE DIDN'T JUST TAKE IT AND DUMP
IT ALL INTO THE INTERNET BUT CURATED IT, TRIED TO PROTECT
PEOPLE'S PERSONAL INFORMATION. NOT ONLY US BUT ALL NEWS
ORGANIZATIONS STILL HAVEN'T DISCLOSED ALL OF THEM BECAUSE OF
THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON INNOCENT PEOPLE.
WHEN YOU GET A LARGE ARCHIVE OF INFORMATION, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
AS A JOURNALIST IS NOT JUST TO DUMP IT ON TO THE INTERNET BUT
PROTECT PEOPLE'S REPUTATION AND PRIVACY AND ONLY PUBLISH THAT IN
THE PUBLIC INTEREST. NOW THAT WIKILEAKS HAS DUMPED
THE PODESTA E-MAILS. IS IT ETHICAL TO REPORT ON
STOLEN INFORMATION? NOT ONLY ETHSICAL, BUT IT
WOULD BE INCREDIBLY UNETHICAL. MANY OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
STORIES IN THE HISTORY OF JOURNALISM COME FROM STOLEN
MATERIALS. THE PENTAGON PAPERS, THE SNOWDEN
MATERIALS. THOSE THAT GIVE INFORMATION TO
DISCOVER THE BUSH EAVESDROPPING PROGRAM.
SO MANY OF THESE THAT LEAD TO THE BEST JOURNALISM ARE GROUNDED
IN ILLEGALITY. NO JOURNALIST HAS THE RIGHT TO
SAY I'M NOT GOING TO REPORT ON ANYTHING UNLESS THE SOURCE IS
UPSTANDING. THIS STOLEN TROVE THIS WEEK,
I'VE GOTTEN A SENSE THEY BELIEVE THERE ARE BOMBSHELLS.
LET ME PUT ON THE SCREEN A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT SEAN HANNITY
STOOD OUT. MEDIA COCLUSION BETWEEN THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND JOURNALISTS.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" IN ONE CASE, LOUING EDITS TO QUOTES OF
CLINTON. THE BOSTON GLOBE PUMPING UP THE
CAMPAIGN. UNIVISION PRESSURED TO ATTACK
TRUMP. THE CAMPAIGN BRAGGING ABOUT
MEDIA SUPPORT AND DONNA BR ZILL LEAKING A TOWN HALL QUESTION.
ARE THESE EFFORTS OF COLLUSION? I THINK THEY ARE EXAMPLES
OF -- SOME OF THEM EVER THE NORMAL STANDARD BACK AND FORTH
JOCKEYING BETWEEN CAMPAIGNS AND JOURNALISTS.
OTHERS ARE EXAMPLES OF SERIOUS IMPROPRIETY.
DONNA BRAZILE LEAKING GETTING A HOLD OF A TOWN HALL QUESTION AND
ONLY GIVING IT TO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND NOT'S SANDERS
CAMPAIGN IS AN EXAMPLE OF CHEATING.
I WROTE ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK.
EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED HERE. WHAT SEEMS TO HAVE HAPPENED
HERE. A CNN TV ONE TOWN HALL BACK IN
MARCH. SANDERS AND CLINTON BOTH ON
STAGE. AN E-MAIL THAT SHOWS THEN CNN
CONTRIBUTOR AND DNC VICE CONTRIBUTOR E-MAILING A QUESTION
THAT SEEMS TO BE A TOWN HALL QUESTION TO JENNIFER PALMIERI AT
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN. THE NEXT DAY A VERSION OF THAT
QUESTION WAS READ ONLINE. CNN HAS FLATLY DENIED SHARING
ANY QUESTION. I'VE BEEN INSIDE JUST ONE OF
THESE DEBATE PREPS. I CAN'T IMAGINE A QUESTION
LEAKING OUT. THEN SNOW IT DID.
THEY SUGGESTED TV ONE WAS MAYBE THE PERSON THAT SENT THE
QUESTION TO DONNA BRAZILE. HE HASN'T REALLY RESPONDED.
HE SORT OF DENIED IT. SHE'S THE ONE WHO PASSED IT
TO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN. IT'S STILL A MYSTERY.
TRUMP HAS TAKEN THIS TO SAY, OH, WELL CLINTON IS BEING GIVEN
DEBATE QUESTIONS, USING THE PLURAL, USING QUESTIONS.
HE'S TAKING A GRAIN OF TRUTH AND TURNING IT INTO A LIE.
THERE'S THIS MASSIVE TRANSPARENCY DISPARITY BECAUSE
WE HAVE UNPRECEDENTED TRANSPARITY INTO ONE CAMPAIGN,
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN. SHE'S RELEASED HER TAX RETURNS,
FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES FOR THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.
WE READ HER E-MAILS FOR THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT MANY OF THEM.
ON THE OTHER SIDE ALMOST NO TRANSPARENCY INTO DONALD TRUMP
AND HIS BUSINESS PRACTICES AND HIS CAMPAIGN BECAUSE HE WON'T
EVEN RELEASE HIS TAX RETURN. IT'S INCREDIBLY HYPOCRITICAL TO
ACT AS THOUGH THERE'S THESE SCANDALS BEING HIDDEN WHEN HE'S
ESSENTIALLY HIDING EVERYTHING ABOUT HIMSELF.
THAT SAID, THERE ARE EXTREMELY INTERESTING ASPECTS OF THESE
E-MAILS WHICH MAYBE THE POLITICAL JUNKIES OR REPORTERS
SEEM LIKE BUSINESS AS USUAL BUT TO THE ORDINARY PERSON IS SHEDS
REAL LIGHT ON THE KIND OF GAMES THAT GET PLAYED, THE
MANIPULATION OF PUBLIC OPINION THAT EVEN IF IT'S COMMON IS
STILL REALLY DISTURBING AND, THEREFORE, DESERVES LOTS OF
ATTENTION. YOU SAY MANIPULATION OF
PUBLIC OPINION, WHAT ARE EXAMPLES IN THIS E-MAIL OF THAT?
THERE'S THINGS WHERE THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN TALKS OPENLY
ABOUT THE FACT THEIR PUBLIC MESSAGING IS AT ODDS WITH WHAT
HILLARY CLINTON REALLY BELIEVES ABOUT WAYS TO MISLEAD SANDERS
SUPPORTERS INTO BELIEVING THEY ARE GETTING CONCESSIONS THAT IN
REALITY ARE INCONSEQUENTIAL. THERE'S AN E-MAIL THAT TALKS
ABOUT HOW THE REGIME OF QATAR, ONE OF THE MOST REPRESSIVE
REGIMES, WAS PROMISING TO GIVE $1 MILLION TO THE CLINTON
FOUNDATION FOR BILL CLINTON'S BIRTHDAY IN EXCHANGE FOR FIVE
MINUTES OF MEETING TIME WITH HIM.
THIS IS THE STUFF CLINTON PARTISANS WILL SAY IT'S NO BIG
DEAL. IT'S NOT SHOCKING.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE STANDARD NEWSWORTHINESS.
LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE NEWSWORTHY AREN'T SHOCKING.
IT'S NOT SHOCKING THAT DONALD TRUMP IS A SERIAL GROPER OF
WOMEN BUT IT'S STILL EXTREMELY NEWSWORTHY.
THAT'S THE SAME FOR THE TRADEOFFS AND MONEY TRANSFERS
AND MEDIA MANIPULATION TAKING PLACE AS EVIDENCED BY THAT
E-MAIL ARCHIVE. I WAS LISTENING TO NEWS RADIO
YESTERDAY, ALL I HEARD ABOUT WAS TRUMP AND NOT CLINTON.
DO YOU THINK THERE'S BEEN AWN FAR BALANCE IN THE WIKILEAKS
REFERENCES VERSUS DONALD TRUMP? I THINK IT'S SIMPLY THE CASE
THE POLITICAL AND MEDIA ELITE ARE UNITED BEHIND HILLARY
CLINTON AND AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.
BUT DONALD TRUMP IS SO OFF THE CHARTS IN TERMS OF CONVENTION
AND WHAT'S NORMAL AND WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE THAT EVEN IF IT MAY
NOT BE JUSTIFIED, IT'S JUST INEVITABLE THAT YOU PUT YOUR
EYES ON THIS EXPLOSION AND THIS EXTREME AMOUNT OF DEVIATION FROM
WHAT'S NORMAL AND PAY ATTENTION TO IT AND TALK ABOUT IT MORE
THAN A CONVENTIONAL CAMPAIGN. OFF THE CHARTS.
THAT'S A GOOD PHRASE. GLENN, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANKS. UP NEXT, TALKING ABOUT
TRUMP'S CONSPIRACY THEORIES. FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT ELECTION
RIGGING AND WHY THEY ARE SO DANGEROUS.
SO OFF THE CHARTS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
I HAD SO MANY THOUGHTS
ONCE I LEFT THE HOSPITAL AFTER A DVT BLOOD CLOT.
WHAT ABOUT MY WIFE...
...WHAT WE'RE BUILDING TOGETHER...
...AND COULD THIS HAPPEN AGAIN?
I WAS GIVEN WARFARIN IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT WONDERED,
WAS THIS THE BEST TREATMENT FOR ME?
I SPOKE TO MY DOCTOR AND SHE TOLD ME ABOUT ELIQUIS.
ELIQUIS TREATS DVT AND PE BLOOD CLOTS
AND REDUCES THE RISK OF THEM HAPPENING AGAIN.
NOT ONLY DOES ELIQUIS TREAT DVT AND PE BLOOD CLOTS.
BUT ELIQUIS ALSO HAD
SIGNIFICANTLY LESS MAJOR
BLEEDING THAN
THE STANDARD TREATMENT.
KNOWING ELIQUIS HAD BOTH...
...TURNED AROUND MY THINKING.
DON'T STOP ELIQUIS UNLESS YOU DOCTOR TELLS YOU TO.
ELIQUIS CAN CAUSE SERIOUS, AND IN RARE CASES, FATAL BLEEDING.
DON'T TAKE ELIQUIS IF YOU HAVE AN ARTIFICIAL HEART VALVE
OR ABNORMAL BLEEDING.
IF YOU HAD A SPINAL INJECTION WHILE ON ELIQUIS
CALL YOUR DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY IF YOU HAVE TINGLING,
NUMBNESS, OR MUSCLE WEAKNESS.
WHILE TAKING ELIQUIS, YOU MAY BRUISE MORE EASILY...
AND IT MAY TAKE LONGER THAN USUAL
FOR BLEEDING TO STOP.
SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL CARE FOR SUDDEN SIGNS OF BLEEDING,
LIKE UNUSUAL BRUISING.
ELIQUIS MAY INCREASE YOUR BLEEDING RISK
IF YOU TAKE CERTAIN MEDICINES.
TELL YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT ALL PLANNED MEDICAL
OR DENTAL PROCEDURES.
ELIQUIS TREATS DVT
& PE BLOOD CLOTS.
PLUS HAD LESS MAJOR BLEEDING.
BOTH MADE SWITCHING
TO ELIQUIS RIGHT FOR ME.
ASK YOUR DOCTOR IF IT'S RIGHT FOR YOU.
DONALD TRUMP'S BIGGEST LIE IS ABOUT THE ELECTION ITSELF.
THE INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTION. HE IS ALLEGING A MASSIVE
CONSPIRACY THEREBY CREATING A MASSIVE CHALLENGE FOR THE NEWS
MEDIA. TRUMP HAS BEEN PLANTING SEEDS
FOR OVER A YEAR WARNING SUPPORTERS NOT TO TRUST THE
GOVERNMENT OR THE MEDIA OR THE POLLS BECAUSE IT'S ALL RIGGED,
HE SAYS. IN APRIL HE STARTED SAYING THIS.
THE SYSTEM, FOLKS, IS RIGGED. IT'S A RIGGED, DISGUSTING, DIRTY
SYSTEM. THAT WAS A RESPONSE TO TED
CRUZ WINNING DELEGATES IN THAT CONVOLUTED PRIMARY PROCESS.
BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, TRUMP PREVAILED SO I GUESS THE SYSTEM
WASN'T DISGUSTING AFTER ALL? GUESS AGAIN.
IN AUGUST, TRUMP TALKED ABOUT THE GENERAL ELECTION BEING
STOLEN FROM HIM. I'M AFRAID THE ELECTION IS
GOING TO BE RIGGED. I HAVE TO BE HONEST.
THE SUBTEXT IS THAT TRUMP IS A WINNER AND HE CAN'T POSSIBLY
BE A LOSER UNLESS IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT.
HE KEPT PLANTING MORE AND MORE SEEDS LIKE HERE ON SEAN
HANNITY'S SHOW. I'M TELLING YOU NOVEMBER 8TH,
WE BETTER BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THAT ELECTION IS GOING TO BE
RIGGED, AND I HOPE THE REPUBLICANS ARE WATCHING CLOSELY
OR IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM US.
THE FIRST COUPLE TIMES HE SAID THIS, IT WAS NEWS.
IT WAS VERY DISTURBING NEWS. IT GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION.
BUT OVER TIME, THE REPETITION, TRUMP'S LIES ABOUT ELECTION
RIGGING HAVE BECOME A FORM OF BACKGROUND NOISE, MORE OF THE
SAME. AND THIS IS A PROPAGANDA
TECHNIQUE WHETHER TRUMP KNOWS IT OR NOT.
IF YOU SAY SOMETHING OFTEN ENOUGH, IF YOU PLANT ENOUGH
SEEDS, PEOPLE START TO WONDER, WILL MY VOTE MATTER?
WILL IT ACTUALLY COUNT? NOW, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T HEAR
THIS NEXT TRUMP SEED BECAUSE IT'S FROM MONDAY OF THIS WEEK,
JUST ONE DAY AFTER THE SECOND DEBATE.
EVEN THE POLLS ARE CROOKED. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
ELECTION IS NOT STOLEN FROM US AND IS NOT TAKEN AWAY FROM US.
AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
HE'S IN THE SUBURBS OF PHILADELPHIA THERE.
NOW, IF YOU READ RIGHT WING WEBSITES THAT WRONGLY CLAIM
THERE IS WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD IN PLACES LIKE PHILADELPHIA,
THEN YOU MIGHT KNOW WHAT TRUMP IS TALKING ABOUT.
BUT THAT REMARK, "WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE ELECTION IS NOT
STOLEN FROM US" MOSTLY ESCAPED SCRUTINY.
CNN ONLY PLAYED THE CLIP ONCE UNTIL NOW.
THE ANCHOR WHO DID PLAY IT, BRIANNA KEELER, TO HER CREDIT,
DID NOT LET SUPPORTER PETER KING DODGE HER QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVIDENCE OR NOT.
NO, THERE ISN'T. THERE HAS BEEN SERIOUS
ALLEGATIONS -- HE'S TALKING ABOUT WIDESPREAD
VOTER FRAUD THAT WOULD SWING AN ELECTION IN A STATE WHERE POLLS
SHOW HE IS DOWN CONSIDERABLY. I MEAN, WHAT HE IS SAYING HAS NO
BASIS IN REALITY. BRIANNA IS RIGHT, AND WE NEED
TO KEEP SAYING IT. WE, AS A COUNTRY, CANNOT ALLOW
OURSELVES TO BECOME NUMB TO THIS.
WE, AS A MEDIA, CANNOT SHRUG IT OFF AS OLD NEWS.
BECAUSE THE REAL DANGER HERE IS THAT WHEN TRUMP LIES TO HIS
SUPPORTERS ABOUT THE OTHERS WHO ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE
ELECTION, SOME OF HIS SUPPORTERS BELIEVE HIM.
OUR LIVES DEPEND ON THIS ELECTION.
OUR KIDS' FUTURES DEPEND ON THIS ELECTION.
FOR ME, PERSONALLY, IF HILLARY CLINTON GETS IN, I MYSELF, I'M
READY FOR A REVOLUTION. MIKE PENCE WAS ON STAGE, AND
HE DID TRY TO TEMPER HER CONCERNS.
WATCH WHAT HE SAID TO HER. THERE'S A REVOLUTION COMING
ON NOVEMBER THE 8TH. I PROMISE YOU.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO SAFEGUARD OUR VOTES?
SO SHE SAID THERE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO SAFEGUARD OUR
VOTES? THIS IS THE WHOLE BALL GAME, AND
THIS IS WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SAY.
I'M PROUD THAT JOURNALISTS ARE STANDING UP, INDIVIDUALLY,
SPEAKING UP IN WAYS THAT WE RARELY SEE.
THEY'RE NOT ANTI-TRUMP, THEY'RE PRO DEMOCRACY.
JULIE PATES WRITING FOR THE AP TODAY SAID TRUMPS CLAIMS
ABOUT VOTE RIGGING MADE WITHOUT EVIDENCE, UNDERCUTS THE ESSENCE
OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS SYSTEM OF
GOVERNMENT SINCE THE BRINK OF THE CIVIL WAR.
I KNOW TRUMP SUPPORTERS TEND TO DISMISS THOSE SOURCES.
THAT'S WHY CONSERVATIVE JOURNALISTS HAVE TO PLAY A ROLE
HERE AND CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS, TOO.
ON THE DAY OF DONALD TRUMP'S -- PRESIDENT OBAMA'S ELECTION,
SEAN HANNITY ACCEPTED THE RESULTS.
THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN CALLED IN OBAMA'S FAVOR
AND THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE WERE HEARD LAST NIGHT.
THEY WANTED BARACK OBAMA FOR FOUR MORE YEARS AND NOW WE HAVE
HIM. BY THE WAY, GOOD LOOK WITH THAT.
LET'S REMEMBER THAT SOUND BITE.
WILL HANNITY SAY THAT IF CLINTON PREVAILS THREE WEEKS FROM NOW?
WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS A TEST.
IT'S A TEST FOR OUR VOTING SYSTEM RUN BY THE STATES.
OUR VOTING SYSTEM IS RUN BY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WITH
THOUSANDS OF VOLUNTEERS AND LAYERS OF OVERSIGHT.
WHEN THERE'S VOTER FRAUD, WHEN IT RARELY HAPPENS IT IS
INVESTIGATED. SO IT'S A TEST FOR OUR SYSTEM,
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ALSO A TEST FOR JOURNALISM.
THERE IS A LOT THE MEDIA CAN DO TO INSTILL CONFIDENCE
IN OUR ELEXS SYSTEM. THIS MIGHT MEAN PHONE BANKS
OR ELECTION TOOLS ON ELECTION DAY GIVING PEOPLE A WAY TO
REPORT POSSIBLE FRAUD. THIS MIGHT ALSO REMIND PEOPLE
THAT VOTER FRAUD IS RARE AND IT IS PROSECUTED.
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO YOU, THE AUDIENCE, BECAUSE TRUMP HAS
PEDDLED THIS STUFF BEFORE. ON THE NIGHT PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS
RE-ELECTED, TRUMP THROUGH A TANTRUM ON TWITTER.
HE SAID THIS ELECTION IS A SHAM AND A TRAVESTY.
HE WROTE WE HAVE TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
MR. TRUMP, THINK OF YOUR CHILDREN.
AMERICA IS GREAT PARTLY BECAUSE EVERYONE ACCEPTS THE RESULTS OF
ELECTIONS. FOR DECADES IN THE PAST AND
HOPEFULLY FOR DECADES TO COME. INVENTING A CONSPIRACY THEORY IS
NO WAY TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
COMING UP HERE ON "RELIABLE SOURCES," THE IMMANT DEPARTURE
OF BILLY BUSH. HIS HANDLING OF THE INFAMOUS
TRUMP TAPE. NEW REPORTING AFTER THE BREAK.
WHO SAYS I SHOULDN'T HAVE A SODA EVERYDAY?
MY DOCTOR. MY DENTIST.
DEFINITELY MY WIFE.
WAIT, I KNOW WHAT I WANT.
MAKE SPARKLING WATER AT HOME.
AND DRINK 43% MORE WATER EVERY DAY.
SODASTREAM. LOVE YOUR WATER.
WELCOME BACK TO "RELIABLE SOURCES."
DWCH DEVELOPING THIS MORNING, NBC NEGOTIATING BILLY BUSH'S
EXIT FROM THE NETWORK. IT COULD BE ANNOUNCED AS EARLY
AS MONDAY. THAT'S ALL A RESULT OF THE
LEAKED "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE THAT CAME OUT NINE DAYS AGO
SHOWING BUSH AND DONALD TRUMP MAKING LEWD AND SEXUALLY
AGGRESSIVE COMMENTS ABOUT WOMEN. BECAUSE IT LEAKED BEFORE NBC
BROADCAST IT, "WASHINGTON POST" MEDIA COLUMNIST SAYS NBC'S
EXPLANATIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED STILL DON'T ADD UP.
MARGARET, ONE OF THE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES OF THIS TAPE AND ITS
RELEASE. THE WHOLE THING STILL SEEMS
RATHER STRANGE THAT THE NBC NOW SAYS THEY WERE PLANNING TO LET
THEIR ENTERTAINMENT SIDE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" ACTUALLY BREAK THAT
STORY AND THE NEWS DIVISION WOULD FOLLOW.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY CLEAR ON WHEN THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THEY WERE SITTING ON A HUGE STORY AND UNDERSTANDABLY, THEY
HAD LAWYERS LOOKING AT IT. THAT'S COMPLETELY
UNDERSTANDABLE. THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS WERE
BIGGER FOR NBC THAN THEY WOULD BE FOR THE "WASHINGTON POST."
IT WAS THEIR MATERIAL. BUT ONCE THE LAWYERS SIGNED OFF,
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU WOULD WANT TO GET THAT ON THE AIR VERY
FAST, AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT SEEMS LIKE NBC HAS HAD A
TORTURED RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP.
THEY HAD THAT MATT LAUER INTERVIEW THAT WAS PRETTY EASY
ON HIM. THEY HAD FALLON PLAYING WITH
TRUMP'S HAIR ON THE ENTERTAINMENT SIDE.
TRUMP SAID THE HEAD OF NBC WAS OUT TO GET HIM BY LEAKING THIS
TAPE. DO WE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF WHO
MIGHT HAVE LEAKED IT TO THE "WASHINGTON POST"?
I HAVE NO IDEA, BRIAN. I'M NOT HIDING ANYTHING, I JUST
DON'T KNOW. LET ME ALSO ASK YOU ABOUT A
BIG DEVELOPMENT THIS WEEK. THEY ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING
DONALD TRUMP IS A THREAT TO PRESS FREEDOM.
DOES IT START TO PROVE TRUMP SUPPORTERS RIGHT WHEN THEY SAY
THE MEDIA IS OUT TO GET THIS CANDIDATE?
THAT WAS A BIG THING FOR THEM TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
IT'S THE SUBJECT OF MY COLUMN I'LL PUBLISH TONIGHT INTO
TOMORROW. I TALKED TO THE CHAIRWOMAN SANDY
ROW ABOUT IT. THEY DON'T GET INTO POLITICS
NATIONALLY OR INTERNATIONALLY. BUT THEY FELT SO STRONG THAT
TRUMP IS A THREAT TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND TO PRESS FREEDOM
AND TO JOURNALISTS THAT THEY JUST HAD TO SAY SOMETHING.
THEY MADE A VERY STRONG STATEMENT.
WE'LL LOOK FOR YOUR COLUMN TONIGHT.
MARGARET, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
WE'LL BE RITE BACK WITH OUR PANEL OF TRUMP BIOGRAPHERS.
STAY TUNED. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
LET'S END WHERE WE BEGAN THIS MORNING.
BRINGING BACK OUR ROUNDTABLE OF TRUMP BIOGRAPHERS.
TIMOTHY O'BRIEN. MICHAEL DEANTONIO, THE AUTHOR OF
"NEVER ENOUGH." AND BRAD THOMAS, AUTHOR OF "THE
TRUMP FACTOR." BRAD, LET ME START WITH YOU.
THE DEBATE ON WEDNESDAY. THE FINAL DEBATE.
DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE THE HIGHEST RATED DEBATE YET OR ARE
PEOPLE SICK AND TIRED OF THIS STUFF BY NOW?
I'M PREDICTING THIS WILL BE A RECORD TURNOUT.
I THINK WE'RE REALLY GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER.
AND I REALLY THINK THREE WEEKS AWAY.
WE'VE SEEN ALL THE MEDIA. YOU COVERED IT GREAT ON THE SHOW
TODAY. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
SEE IS, YOU KNOW, VOTERS REALLY WANTING TO FOCUS ON THE MOST
IMPORTANT ELEMENTS OF THIS ELECTION.
WE'RE HEARING ALL THE MEDIA ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TICKET.
I THINK WHAT VOTERS REALLY WANT TO SEE FROM THIS DEBATE ARE THE
MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. THE SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY AND
FINANCIAL SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY.
THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
I HOPE THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE THIS UPCOMING WEEK.
I IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THOUGHT THAT TRUMP MIGHT BRING
OUT CLINTON'S ACCUSERS AT THE THIRD AND FINAL DEBATE.
SINCE HE DID THAT AT THE SUCCESS DEBA
-- SECOND DEBATE, ARE YOU EXPECTING SOMETHING ELSE,
SOMETHING LOWER? I WOULDN'T WANT TO PREDICT.
I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO PULL OFF.
THIS IS THE LAST DITCH FOR HIM, THE LAST STAND.
AND I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY IN TERMS OF
POLICY OR POLITICS THAT ARE GOING TO MATTER.
THIS IS A PERSONALITY DRIVEN AFFAIR.
IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING, HE'S
GOING TO USE IT. DOES IT MATTER THAT IT'S A
FOX NEWS MODERATOR, CHRIS WALL ATHIS TIME?
I THINK FOX HAS DONE A GOOD JOB THROUGHOUT THE DEBATES.
CHRIS WALLACE AND MEGYN KELLY WERE INQUISITIVE IN THE FIRST
DEBATE. IT'S A TOUGH JOB, AS EVERYBODY
KNOWS. THE ISSUE IS, YOU HAVE A
CANDIDATE WHO IS ESSENTIALLY A FLAME THROWER.
HE'S REALLY READY TO BURN IT DOWN WITH THE MEDIA, THE
POLITICAL PROCESS. I DO HOPE IF HE CONTINUES WITH
THE MEDIA THAT THE COURTS STEP IN AND BOUNCE ANY OF THESE
FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS HE FILES BECAUSE IT -- WE'RE AT A MOMENT
WHERE INSTITUTIONS HAVE TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES.
THE MEDIA, THE COURTS, THE POLITICAL PROCESS AND SAY WE
HAVE SOMEONE ON OUR HANDS HERE WHO IS WILLING TO BLOW IT UP TO
SERVE HIMSELF. AND IT'S A DANGEROUS THING.
HE IS ACTING LIKE AN ARSONIST.
WE SHOULDN'T SHY AWAY FROM SAYING THAT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MEDIA SHOULD DO ON AN INSTITUTIONAL
BASEIS? ONE THING FOR THE MEDIA TO SAY
IT. ARE THERE THINGS THE MEDIA
SHOULD BE DOING WITHOUT PLAYING INTO HIS HANDS AND ACTING LIKE
THEY'RE COLLUDING? I THINK DOING WHAT THE MEDIA
HAS ALWAYS DONE. THE MEDIA ISN'T THE MOST FAVORED
INSTITUTION IN THE MINDS OF THE GOP, BUT WHAT THE MEDIA SHOULD
DO IS REPORT THE FACTS, STAY ON THE TRAIL WITH DONALD TRUMP.
STAY ON THE TRAIL WITH HILLARY CLINTON.
REPORT IT THROUGH. AND REALLY DO A CONTINUED
SERVICE TO THE AMERICAN VOTER WHO IS TO ANALYZE DONALD TRUMP
FOR WHAT HE IS, NOT WHAT HE SAYS HE IS.
I THINK THE FACTS ALSO INCLUDE THE ATTEMPTED
INTIMIDATION OF THE REPORTERS AT THESE RALLIES.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE CAMERAS TO BE TURNED ON THESE
PEOPLE WHO ARE SNARLING AT REPORTERS WHO ARE THREATENING
THEM PHYSICALLY. THERE WAS A SIGN AT ONE OF
THE RALLIES WITH A SWASTIKA AND THE WORD MEDIA ON IT.
THEY SAY THE VITRIOL DOES SEEM TO BE INCREASING.
WHEN TRUMP ATTACKED THE MEDIA, THAT'S WHEN THE CROWD WOULD BOO.
NOW THE CROWD BOOS THE MEDIA BEFORE TRUMP ARRIVES.
I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF SAFETY.
BRAD, YOU WERE AT ONE OF THESE RALLIES ON FRIDAY.
WHAT WAS YOUR SENSE OF .
OF THE RALLY? DID IT MAKE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE?
I'M A BUSINESS ANALYST. WHEN YOU ARE WATCHING THE
CROWD BOO AND CHANT CNN SUCKS. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SAY WHATEVER
THEY WANT. THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE VITRIOL, DOES IT WORRY YOU ABOUT VIOLENCE?
I WOULD NOT CONSIDER MYSELF HARMED OR BE COMPROMISED IF I
WERE SITTING BACK THERE WITH SOME OF THE MEDIA.
I DON'T REALLY THINK -- I WOULD NOT FEEL HARMED IN THAT WAY.
I HAVE BEEN TO A NUMBER OF RALLIES.
I FEEL SECURE IN THE RALLIES. I ATTENDED 20 OR 30 RALLIES IN
THE PAST YEAR. I DO NOT FEEL INSECURE AT ALL.
YOU ARE MORE CONCERNED FOR VIOLENCE AT THE RALLIES?
IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE SO-CALLED PRESS PEN AND YOU
DON'T HAVE THE FACES SPITTING AND ANGRY FACES TURNED TOWARD
YOU WITH FISTS RAISED, YOU WILL NOT FEEL CONCERNED.
THESE ARE YOUNG AND VULNERABLE AND WALKING INTO THE EVENTS, THE
REPORTERS I KNOW COVERING THEM, THEY HEAR STUFF YOU WOULD NOT
HEAR IN A LOCKER ROOM TO USE A DONALD TRUMP EXPRESSION.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
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BY 12 POINTS. WILL THE TEAM ACCEPT THE
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