T TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
IF I MAY, I WANT TO BEGIN WITH
GETTING YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
HAPPENED IN BRUSSELS, AND IF
YOU WOULD, I'D LIKE TO SHARE
FIRST, THOUGH, A HEADLINE FROM
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" TWO MONTHS
AGO, IF WE COULD PUT THAT UP?
AS THE "NEW YORK TIMES" MOCKED
TRUMP AS HE POINTED OUT THE
HELL HOLE THAT WAS BRUSSELS AND
THE FACT THAT THE RADICAL
ISLAMIST TERRORISTS WITHIN
BRUSSELS WERE A FRIGHTENING,
FRIGHTENING PROBLEM TO EUROPE.
DONALD, GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH
US.
YOUR THOUGHTS AFTER I THOUGHT
IN A BIT OF CONTEXT, IF I MAY?
>> THANK YOU, IT'S AN HONOR,
LOU.
IT WAS SAD, BRUSSELS WAS A
GREAT PLACE.
A BRILLIANT CITY, A BEAUTIFUL,
BEAUTIFUL CITY, CRIME-FREE, AND
NO PROBLEM, AND THIS IS YEARS
AGO, AND I WAS THERE MANY YEARS
AGO BRIEFLY, BUT I'VE NEVER
FORGOTTEN HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS.
AND I HAVE FRIENDS THAT GO
THERE QUITE A BIT, AND THEY
HATE TO GO THERE NOW.
IT'S A HELL HOLE, THEY CALL IT
AND IT'S A HORRIBLE SITUATION
THAT'S TAKEN PLACE.
THEY'VE LET RADICAL ISLAMIST
TERRORISTS BE THERE.
THERE'S A TREMENDOUS HATRED.
THEY ASKED ME DURING THE
DEBATE, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE
HATRED.
I SAID ABSOLUTELY THERE IS HATRED, I DON'T WANT TO BE
POLITICALLY CORRECT.
THEY WERE SHOCKED I WOULD SAY
THAT. THERE IS HATRED.
BRUSSELS IS AN EXAMPLE OF IT.
DON'T KID YOURSELF, YOU GO TO
PARIS, YOU HAVE SECTIONS OF
PARIS WHERE THE POLICE DON'T
WANT TO GO THERE AND PROBABLY
HAVE AREAS WHERE THEY PROBABLY
PRACTICE SHARIA LAW, IT'S VERY
VERY HORRIBLE TO WOMEN.
IT'S HORRIBLE IN MANY DIFFERENT
WAYS AND YOU HAVE MANY OTHER
CITIES THAT I DON'T HAVE TO
MENTION BECAUSE I'M NOT MAKING
THIS CALL TO DESTROY CITIES ALL
OVER EUROPE AND THE WORLD, BUT
WHERE THIS HAPPENS, BAD THINGS
HAPPEN, BAD THINGS HAPPEN AND
TERROR HAPPENS.
AND I MENTIONED THAT, AND THAT'S RIGHT.
I ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT SIX
MONTHS AGO AND MENTIONED IT
AGAIN, RELATIVE TO A QUESTION.
THE TIMES DID A BIG STORY I WAS
DOING SOMETHING WRONG ABOUT BRUSSELS.
I TELL THE TRUTH, LOU, I TELL
THE TRUTH.
LOU: THEY TRIED TO MOCK YOU
SUGGESTING YOU WERE INSULTING
BRUSSELS, WHEN, IN FACT, IT
TURNS OUT YOU WERE VERY
PRESCIENT INDEED.
YOU ALSO TOOK UP THE ISSUE OF
RESTRUCTURING NATO, AND THE
ISSUE OF GREATER BURDEN SHARING
ON THE PART OF THE EUROPEAN
NATIONS IN NATO, AND QUICKLY,
SENATOR TED CRUZ WENT AFTER
YOU, SUGGESTING THAT THE
BOMBINGS SUGGESTED IN BRUSSELS
SUGGEST THAT THAT'S A VERY BAD
IDEA.
YOUR REACTION TO THE SENATOR'S INTERPRETATION.
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, TED -- I
CALL HIM LYING TED CRUZ, I'VE
NEVER, EVER SEEN ANYBODY THAT
LIED LIKE THIS GUY.
I HAVE DEALT WITH PEOPLE MUCH
TOUGHER THAN TED, BUT I'VE
NEVER DEALT WITH ANYBODY THAT
LIES AS MUCH AS HIM.
AND HE'S KNOWN FOR IT.
HE'LL LIFT UP THE BIBLE HIGH
AND PUT IT DOWN AND LIE ABOUT
THINGS.
I'VE NEVER MET ANYTHING LIKE
IT, THIS IS BEYOND A NORMAL
POLITICIAN.
EVEN RUBIO DURING ONE OF THE
DEBATES WAS COMPLAINING THAT
TED LIES SO MUCH, AND I JUST
SAY THIS, I WANT TO BE
TRUTHFUL.
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
POLITICALLY CORRECT, BUT PEOPLE
ARE AGREEING WITH WHAT I'M
SAYING, LOU, AND YOU UNDERSTAND
IT, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE
YOUR HONESTY.
NOT YOUR SUPPORT, BECAUSE
YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTING ME.
I'VE WATCHED SO LONG, INCLUDING
CNN, AND FRANKLY FOX IS LUCKY
TO HAVE YOU. LOU: THANK YOU.
>> I LOVE YOUR SHOW.
THAT'S WHY I'M DOING YOUR SHOW
RIGHT NOW.
I TOOK THE DAY OFF.
I SAID I'M GOING TO HAVE A DAY
OFF.
THEY SAID WILL YOU DO LOU?
I SAID I WILL DO LOU.
YOU TELL IT LIKE IT IS, AND I
APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT I LIKE TO -- MAYBE I COULD
SAY THE SAME THING, I LIKE TO
TELL THE TRUTH.
IF IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND
VOTERS AREN'T GOING TO SAY,
WELL, I WANT TRUMP.
THAT'S OKAY, I'LL GO BACK TO MY
LIFE AND I'LL HAVE A MUCH
SIMPLER LIFE.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED
FACTOR, I WILL TELL YOU, AS
WELL AS I'M DOING, AND I'M
DOING WELL, A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED LIFE.
I WANT TO TELL THE TRUTH,
SOMEDAY SOMEBODY IS GOING TO
HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH BECAUSE
THE WORLD IS COLLAPSING.
YOU LOOK AT WHAT MERKEL HAS
DONE IN GERMANY.
IT'S A DISASTER OVER THERE.
YOU LOOK AT A SMALL PART OF
SWEDEN, WHERE THEY HAVE A
SECTION WHERE PEOPLE ARE
MOVING, PEOPLE ARE JUST
MIGRATED IN, IT'S A DISASTER.
YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD NOW, AND
THAT OUR COUNTRY IS SO IGNORANT
AS TO TAKE THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THAT WE
HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY'RE
FROM, THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION
THERE'S NO ANYTHING, AND YOU
WATCH, IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO
LOTS OF PROBLEMS.
LOU: DONALD, WE HAVE SEVERAL REPORTS TODAY THAT THE BORDER
PATROL IN POINT OF FACT, IS
FALSIFYING DOCUMENTS.
THE HOMELAND SECURITY
DEPARTMENT IS VASTLY
UNDERSTATING THE NUMBER OF
ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSERS WHO GET
AWAY FROM THE BORDER PATROL,
ATTEMPTING TO APPREHEND THEM.
FACT IS THAT WE NOW KNOW THAT
THE OBAMA-LED SECURITY
DEPARTMENT AND CUSTOMS AND
BORDER PATROL SIMPLY ARE NOT
DOING THEIR JOBS AT THE ORDER
OF THIS PRESIDENT AND, IN FACT
FALSIFYING THE INFORMATION
ABOUT THE FLOW OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS AND SMUGGLERS ACROSS
THAT BORDER.
>> WELL, I'M NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR IT.
I WILL SAY THIS, LOU, I WAS IN
LAREDO, TEXAS, I WAS THERE AT
THE INVITATION OF THE BORDER
PATROL, AND BORDER PATROL
PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE BORDER PATROL.
AND I THINK THEY'RE INCREDIBLE.
I THINK THEY REALLY WANT TO DO
THEIR JOB AND THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB.
I THINK THEY FEEL VERY GUILTY.
THEY'RE PROUD PEOPLE, EQUIPPED
TO DO THEIR JOB, THEY WANT TO
DO IT, AND THEY'RE TOLD TO
STAND BACK, LET THINGS HAPPEN.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEM.
I REALLY BELIEVE IF WE HAD THE
RIGHT LEADER, IF WE HAD A
LEADER --.
>> I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION.
>> I REALLY BELIEVE THEY DO A
GREAT JOB, BUT THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB, LOU.
LOU: UNDERSTOOD, AND AGREED.
LET ME TURN TO THIS EXCHANGE OF
TWEETS, THE CRUZ PAC, SUPER
PAC, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, THEY
ARE ACTUALLY JUST ANTI-TRUMP,
THEY SAY, LED BY LIZ MAYER,
FORMER DEPUTY CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR
FOR MITT ROMNEY, SENDING A
VICIOUS, TO ME, A VICIOUS
ATTACK ON YOU, AND REACHING TO
YOUR WIFE, THEN THE EXCHANGE
WITH YOU AND SENATOR CRUZ, AN
EXCHANGE OF THREATS, IF YOU
WILL, AN EXTRAORDINARY DISPLAY.
ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE --
AND I'VE HEARD YOU ANSWER THIS
100 TIMES WITH PROBABLY A
HUNDRED DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SEEMS TO ME, THIS IS ONE WHICH
WHEN WIVES ARE BROUGHT INTO
THIS, IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT
APPROACH ALTOGETHER.
I WANT YOUR THOUGHTS IN HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO PROCEED AND
WHAT YOU THINK THE STANDARD
SHOULD BE?
>> I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ME THE
QUESTION, I THOUGHT IT WAS TERRIBLE.
FIRST OF ALL IT'S "GQ"
MAGAZINE, A NICE MAINSTREAM
MAGAZINE, A GOOD MAGAZINE, THEY
HAD MY WIFE ON THE COVER.
MY WIFE WAS A VERY, VERY
SUCCESSFUL MODEL, REALLY
SUCCESSFUL.
BEAUTIFUL WOMAN AND ALL, AND
SHE DID A SHOOT FOR GQ, I THINK
IT WAS A COVER SHOOT OR A COVER
PICTURE, BUT IT WAS A GOOD
ISSUE, VERY SUCCESSFUL ISSUE,
AND IT WAS A SHOOT FOR "GQ" MAGAZINE.
SO TED CRUZ KNOWINGLY, HE SAID
HE DIDN'T KNOW, THAT'S WHY I
CALL HIM LYING TED.
TED CRUZ KNOWINGLY IN MY
OPINION THIS H THIS ARTICLE
SENT ALL OVER UTAH.
HAD THE PICTURE SAYING IS THIS
WHAT YOU WANT ESSENTIALLY, IS
THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR A FIRST LADY?
FIRST OF ALL, SHE WOULD BE A
GREAT FIRST LADY, VERY SMART,
HAVE YOU SEEN HER BEING
INTERVIEWED RECENTLY, SHE WOULD
BE OUTSTANDING.
BUT AGAIN, AS A MODEL, SHE DID
SHOOTS AND LIKE ALL OF THE
MODELS THEY DO, THAT'S WHAT
THEY DO, IT'S ONE OF THOSE
THINGS AND IT WAS FAMED IN SUCH
A WAY THAT IT WAS A TERRIBLE
THING AND SENT TO A CERTAIN
GROUP, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
DISGRACEFUL AND TED CRUZ KNEW
BETTER.
JUST LIKE TED CRUZ KNEW AND
DENIED IT THAT WHEN DURING IOWA
HE SAID THAT BEN CARSON HAS QUIT THE RACE.
HE'S QUIT THE RACE, HE'S OUT OF
THE RACE, TAKE MY PEOPLE AND
VOTE FOR ME, TED CRUZ BECAUSE
BEN CARSON HAS LEFT AND HE'S
OUT OF THE RACE.
NOW HE KNEW ABOUT THAT, AND
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ELECTION
ENDED HE CALLED BEN CARSON AND
APOLOGIZED.
THAT DIDN'T HELP BEN CARSON.
I WOULD HAVE ONE IOWA IF THAT
DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT TOOK
VOTES AWAY FROM ME.
HE ADDED A LOT OF VOTES TO
HIMSELF.
BUT HE LIED ABOUT IT.
LOU: YOU ARE DOING PRETTY WELL
DESPITE THAT.
TO MY QUESTION ABOUT A STANDARD
HERE, ARE YOU GOING TO ASSERT A
STANDARD BECAUSE OF THE
BRINGING IN WIVES OF CANDIDATES
IS SO UNSEEMLY.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I DID, I WROTE AND SAID BE
CAREFUL BECAUSE OTHERWISE I'LL
HAVE TO START TALKING ABOUT
YOUR SITUATION.
NOW, DO I LIKE DOING THAT?
NO.
SHOULD THAT HAVE BEEN DONE BY HIM?
HE ABSOLUTELY KNEW ABOUT IT.
THINK IT, HE DOESN'T KNOW THIS
IS SENT AND EARMARKED TO A
GROUP IN UTAH?
HE KNEW ABOUT IT.
LOU: PERSONALLY, I TELL YOU,
ANY SUPER PAC WORKING FOR ANY
CANDIDATE SHOULD BE HELD, THE
CANDIDATE SHOULD BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE, AND THERE IS NO
QUESTION OF THE RELATIONSHIP OF
THE PEOPLE RUNNING THIS SUPER
PAC, THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE
RECEIVING AND FROM WHOM, SO I
THINK THE RESPONSIBILITY IS
USUALLY CLEAR.
>> LOU, THESE PEOPLE, JUST TO
FINISH IT, THESE PEOPLE WORKED
FOR ROMNEY AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
AND ROMNEY IS WITH CRUZ, THEY
ALL KNEW ABOUT IT, AND ROMNEY
NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE.
HE RAN A TERRIBLE CAMPAIGN, HE
CHOKED LIKE A DOG.
HE CHOKED ABSOLUTELY LIKE A
DOG, THAT WAS A CAMPAIGN THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN WON EASILY AND
HE WAS UNABLE TO DO IT.
HE QUIT.
AND THAT LAST MONTH, AND YOU
REMEMBER IT BETTER THAN I
DO, BECAUSE YOU HAD TO COVER
IT. HE QUIT.
AND OBAMA WON AN ELECTION THAT
OBAMA NEVER SHOULD HAVE WON,
AND NOW ROMNEY IS TRYING TO --
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS PROBLEM,
IS BUT HE'S GOT BIG PROBLEMS,
BUT ROMNEY KNEW ABOUT IT AND
CRUZ KNEW ABOUT IT AND IT WAS
INAPPROPRIATE, AND SOME PEOPLE
THOUGHT IT WAS A FINE PICTURE,
IT WAS FUN, IT WAS THE COVER OF
GQ. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
LOU: EXACTLY.
AND I WANT TO TURN TO AS WE
WRAP UP HERE.
I'D LIKE TO GET A SENSE, OUR
AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO GET A
SENSE FROM YOU, YOU ARE NOW
CONFRONTING NOT ONLY YOUR
OPPONENTS IN THE FIELD,
CONFRONTING THE NATIONAL
LIBERAL MEDIA.
YOU ARE BEING -- I MEAN, YOU
ARE BEING ATTACKED BY WHAT HAVE
BECOME JUNKYARD DOGS FROM EVERY INCLUDING
THE
ESTABLISHMENT, THE GOP ELITES,
WHO ARE ALSO SETTING THE RULES
FOR THE CONVENTION.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THE
CONVENTION AND WILL IN EFFECT
HAVE THE FATE OF THE NOMINEE IN
THEIR HANDS IF YOU DON'T HAVE
1237 DELEGATES.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, AS
YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS
BATTLE, BECAUSE IT IS -- I CAN
ONLY BEGIN TO IMAGINE WHAT IT'S
LIKE TO BE HIT SO OFTEN FROM SO
MANY QUARTERS BY THOSE WHO ONE
WOULD EXPECT IN NORMAL
CIRCUMSTANCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SUPPORTING?
>> IT'S AN AMAZING THING, I WON
FLORIDA IN A LANDSLIDE, AND YET
38 MILLION DOLLARS OF NEGATIVE
ATTACK ADS WERE PUT ON ME BY
THE REPUBLICANS.
THESE WEREN'T THE LIBERALS,
THESE WERE REPUBLICANS THAT PUT
THEM ON.
CLUB FOR GROWTH WHO WANTED ME
TO GIVE THEM A MILLION DOLLARS
WHEN I SAID NO, THEY WENT
NEGATIVE LIKE EXTORTION.
SOME OF THE GROUPS, THEY SPENT
38 MILLION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME, IN A TWO-WEEK PERIOD AND
I WON IN A LANDSLIDE.
I'M WONDERING IF ADS ARE WORTHWHILE.
LOU, WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND YOU
SEE THEY BEAT MARCO RUBIO, THE
FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY,
BY 20 POINTS, IT WAS ACTUALLY,
YOU ALMOST HAVE TO QUESTION
WHAT DOES AN AD MEAN?
WHY ARE PEOPLE SPENDING MONEY
ON ADS?
BUT IT IS VERY, VERY
DISCONCERTING WHEN I'VE ADDED
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU COVER
IT WELL, THE BIGGEST STORY IN
POLITICS TODAY IS THE MILLIONS
OF ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THAT ARE
VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICANS, AND
BY THE WAY, THE DEMOCRATS ARE
DOWN 35%. THE REPUBLICANS, SOME STATES
ARE UP OVER 100% TURNING OUT
FOR THE PRIMARIES SOME.
PEOPLE NEVER VOTED BEFORE.
MANY ARE DEMOCRATS AND MANY
INDEPENDENTS.
THEY SHOULD EMBRACE THAT, LOU,
IF THEY DON'T EMBRACE IT,
THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THE
ELECTION.
A NORMAL REPUBLICAN CAN'T WIN
THE ELECTION, STRUCTURALLY IT
CAN'T ALLOW YOU TO WIN THE
ELECTION.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER
DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT ANDT
PRESIDENT IS GOING TO PICK FOUR
OR FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES
WHO ARE VERY LIBERAL AND IT
WILL BE THE END OF OUR COUNTRY
AS WE KNOW IT.
IT WILL BE A DISASTER.
YOU WOULD THINK THEY'D EMBRACE
WHAT'S HAPPENING. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE, YOU SAW IT IN ARIZONA,
PEOPLE ARE STANDING
SIDE-BY-SIDE TRYING TO GET IN
TO VOTE, FOR ME!
THEY WANTED TO VOTE FOR ME.
YOU WOULD THINK THE REPUBLICANS
EMBRACE IT.
I'LL ADD MICHIGAN, NOESHEW YORK,
STATES THEY WOULDN'T CAMPAIGN
IT. IT'S SAD TO WATCH.
LOU: HOW ABOUT WISCONSIN?
>> I THINK WE'LL DO WELL IN WISCONSIN.
I HOPE TO DO WELL IN WISCONSIN
AND SHOULD DO WELL THERE.
THEY'RE SPENDING MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON ADS AND
HONESTLY, IF SOMEBODY ELSE
WOULD GET THIS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE HOW DO YOU
PICK SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT
MILLIONS OF LESS VOTES. I HAVE THREE MILLION MORE VOTES
THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
A MASSIVE AMOUNT, THAT'S MORE
THAN VOTED LAST TIME.
HOW DO YOU PICK SOMEBODY WHO
HAD MILLIONS OF LESS VOTES.
A LITTLE BIT, THE 1237, I THINK
WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
I'VE BEEN RUNNING AGAINST 6, 7
8, 9, 10 PEOPLE?
HOW DO YOU GET 1237 WHEN YOU'VE
HAD TO BEAT ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE?
IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR.
LOU: SOME COMFORT FOR YOU IN THAT, AND THE NEWEST FOX POLL,
JUST ABOUT 60% OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS BELIEVE THE PERSON WITH
THE MOST DELEGATES GOING INTO
THAT CONVENTION SHOULD BE THE
NOMINEE. >> THAT'S GREAT.
LOU: DONALD TRUMP, THANKS FOR
SPENDING TIME WITH US, WE
APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
>> GREATLY APPRECI