T. >> SPEAKING OF GOLF A GUY WHO
OWNS A WHOLE BUNCH OF GOLF CLUBS
IS DONALD TRUMP.
HE'S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
HE JOINS US LIVE FROM SOMEWHERE
IN HIS EMPIRE.
MR. TRUMP, GOOD MORNING TO YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.
>> FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHAT'D YOU THINK OF THE MASTERS
YESTERDAY? >> WELL I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT
TO WATCH. I THOUGHT -- AND I KNOW JORDAN
HE'S A WONDERFUL YOUNG GUY.
HE'S HAD A VERY LIFE ALTERING
EXPERIENCE.
IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS JUST GOING
TO SAIL RIGHT THROUGH.
THAT'S GOLF. IT'S A TOUGH SPORT.
THAT'S LIFE.
THAT'S GOLF.
THAT'S SPORTS. THAT'S EVERYTHING.
I MEAN IT CAN HAPPEN.
BUT HE'S A GREAT YOUNG GUY AND
HE'LL BE FINE AND HE'LL BE BACK.
>> HE IS SUCH A GREAT GUY.
JUST A GOOD ROLE MODEL FOR THE
YOUNG KIDS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ALL RIGHT SO YESTERDAY OR
OVER THE WEEKEND YOU LOST THE
STATE OF COLORADO AND YOU
TWEETED ABOUT THIS.
YOU SAID YOU WERE ANGRY AND YOU
SAID IT WAS UNFAIR.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT?
>> WELL IT REALLY STARTED WITH
COLORADO. AND THE PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE
GOING CRAZY.
YOU KNOW IN THE DENVER AREA IN
COLORADO ITSELF. THEY'RE GOING ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.
BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GIVEN A
VOTE. THIS WAS GIVEN BY POLITICIANS.
IT'S A CROOKED DEAL.
AND I SEE IT.
AND I SEE IT HONESTLY I SEE IT
WITH BERNIE TOO.
YOU KNOW I'VE GOTTEN MILLIONS
MORE VOTES.
MILLIONS. NOT JUST A COUPLE MILLIONS OF
MORE VOTES THAN CRUZ.
AND I'VE GOTTEN HUNDREDS OF
DELEGATES MORE AND WE KEEP
FIGHTING FIGHTING FIGHTING,
THEN YOU HAVE COLORADO WHERE
THEY FRANKLY, WHERE THEY YOU
KNOW JUST GET ALL OF THESE
DELEGATES, AND IT'S NOT A
SYSTEM. THERE WAS NO VOTING.
I DIDN'T GO OUT THERE TO MAKE A
SPEECH OR ANYTHING.
THERE'S NO VOTING.
I HEARD PETE SAY THAT'S THE WAY
IT IS.
THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THE WAY
IT IS.
THIS WAS CHANGED IN THE SUMMER
TO HELP A GUY LIKE CRUZ AND IT'S
NOT RIGHT.
NOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, SOUTH
CAROLINA. I WON IT BY A LANDSLIDE.
LIKE A MASSIVE LANDSLIDE AND NOW
THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK OFF THOSE
DELEGATES ONE BY ONE.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY DEMOCRACY IS
SUPPOSED TO WORK.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY OFFER THEM
TRIPS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
I MEAN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO OFFER
TRIPS AND YOU CAN BUY ALL THESE
VOTES.
WHAT KIND OF A SYSTEM IS THIS?
NOW I'M AN OUTSIDER AND I CAME
INTO THE SYSTEM AND I'M WINNING
THE VOTES BY MILLIONS OF VOTES.
BUT THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED.
IT'S CROOKED.
WHEN YOU LOOK EVEN AT BERNIE
I'M NOT A FAN OF BERNIE BUT
EVERY TIME I TURN ON YOUR SHOW
BERNIE WINS BERNIE WINS.
AND YET BERNIE'S NOT WINNING.
I MEAN IT'S A RIGGED SYSTEM.
IT'S A RIGGED SYSTEM.
>> MR. TRUMP, I'VE BEEN A PART
OF THE CAUCUS SYSTEM IN
MINNESOTA. IT IS A DIFFICULT SYSTEM AND I
WAS STEAMROLLED BY AND ORGANIZED
BY A RON PAUL MOVEMENT.
ISN'T IT JUST FAIR TO SAY THAT
THESE ARE THE RULES, TED CRUZ IS
ORGANIZED AND YOU'RE JUST
FLAT-OUT BEING OUTORGANIZED? >> NO BECAUSE I'VE GOT MILLIONS
MORE VOTES.
YOU COULD SAY HE'S OUT-ORGANIZED
BECAUSE I'VE GOT MILLIONS OF
MORE VOTES, PETE AND I HAPPEN
TO HAVE MORE DELEGATES THAN HE
DOES BY A LOT.
WHEN YOU GO IN TO COLORADO WHERE
THE PEOPLE OF COLORADO ARE
COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO VOTE THAT'S THE BEST
OF ALL, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EVEN
ALLOWED TO VOTE. OR WHEN I GO IN TO LOUISIANA AND
I WIN LOUISIANA BY A LOT, I GET
THOUSANDS OF MORE VOTES THAN
CRUZ AND THEN I FIND OUT THAT I
GET LESS DELEGATES, YOU KNOW
HEY, I'M SOMEBODY COMING IN TO
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
I'M COMING IN TO DO SOMETHING
POSITIVE. I'M AN OUTSIDER.
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED.
I SEE IT.
I SEE IT NOW, 100%.
AND BY THE WAY, NOT JUST ON OUR
SIDE. I THINK IT'S WORSE ON THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE WHEN YOU CAN
HAVE A COLORADO WHERE THE PEOPLE
DON'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE AND
THE PEOPLE OUT IN COLORADO ARE
GOING NUTS.
THEY'RE MARCHING THEY'RE HAVING
A LOT OF PROBLEMS OUT THERE,
BECAUSE OF THIS.
THIS WAS A POLITICAL HACK DEAL
LIKE SO MUCH OF OUR COUNTRY.
THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS ALL
ABOUT I GUESS.
>> WELL, SPEAKING OF THE HACK
DEAL I'M SURE YOU SAW OVER THE
WEEKEND THE BOSTON GLOBE WAS
JUST TRYING TO START A
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD
BE LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT.
AND SOME OF THE HEADLINES ARE,
THE BIG ONE THERE, DEPORTATIONS
TO BEGIN. THEN ON THE SIDE IT SAYS MARKETS
SINK AS TRADE WAR LOOMS.
TRUMP ON NOBEL PRIZE SHORT LIST.
U.S. SOLDIERS REFUSE ORDERS TO
KILL ISIS FAMILIES.
RIGHT THERE.
MR. TRUMP, THEY SAID THEY WANTED
TO START A CONVERSATION BUT YOU
KNOW WE'VE HAD THE
CONVERSATION AND AMERICANS DO
WANT OUR BORDER SECURITIED.
>> WELL YOU KNOW MASSACHUSETTS,
I WON MASSACHUSETTS WITH ALMOST
50% OF THE VOTE.
AND THERE WERE MANY CANDIDATES
RUNNING. SO WHEN YOU GET 50% AND I HAD
MANY MANY CANDIDATES.
THAT WAS AWHILE AGO, MONTH AGO,
MONTH AND A HALF.
AND IT'S JUST SHOWS YOU THE
POWER THAT PAPER HAS, BECAUSE
THEY WERE JUST VERY HEMMENTLY
AGAINST. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE STRONG
BORDERS. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ALL OF
THE THINGS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT
OVER THERE.
THEY WANT TO SEE BAD TRADE DEALS
BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN
OUR COUNTRY IS BAD -- WE HAVE
THE WORST TRADE DEALS NOW THAT
I'VE REALLY GOTTEN INTO IT WE
HAVE THE MOST DEALS, THE MOST
INCOMPETENT DEALS I'VE EVER
SEEN. OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO GO BUST.
WE LOSE WITH EVERY SINGLE
COUNTRY WE MAKE A DEAL WITH WE
LOSE TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY
AND JOBS.
AND FACTORIES.
AND IT WILL ALL CHANGE.
BUT, YOU KNOW JUST SHOWS YOU,
HERE'S A PAPER THAT WAS SOLD FOR
$1 A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
$1. AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S WORTH.
>> WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO THE
PAPER THIS MORNING?
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT
ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS?
WHY AREN'T THEY DOING THIS FOR
HILLARY CLINTON?
AND IF THEY DID, WOULD THERE BE
OUTRAGE?
>> WELL THEY WOULDN'T DO IT ON .
THEY WANT TO DO IT ON THIS SIDE.
IT'S A VERY SAD THING.
AND IT'S SAD FOR THE PAPER.
YOU KNOW IT USED TO BE
CONSIDERED A MAJOR PAPER.
AND NOW, IT'S -- IT'S LIKE A
SUPERMARKET THROWOUT.
YOU KNOW YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING IN IT.
THERE'S NO ADS.
>> YOU'RE THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR
THE REPUBLICANS, SHE'S THE
FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
THEY SHOULD DO THIS FOR HER AND
MAKE IT JUST AS NEGATIVE.
>> THEY SHOULD.
BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD MY BREATH I
MUST SAY.
BUT THEY CERTAINLY SHOULD.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE KNOW YOU ARE IN A PITCHED
BATTLE RIGHT NOW OVER NEW YORK.
ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW YOU LOOK AT
THE POLLS, AND YOU'RE OVER 50%.
THE NEW YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT
SERGEANT BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION
IS CALLING FOR BILL CLINTON TO
APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT HE SAID ABOUT
THE DEATH OF ERIC GARNER KILLED
IN 2014 WHAT HE SAID YESTERDAY
IN HARLEM. LISTEN TO THIS, MR. TRUMP.
>> YOU CAN SEE THESE VIDEOS
THESE YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN
MEN, SHOT IN THE STREET BY
POLICE OFFICERS AND NEW YORK
[ INAUDIBLE ] WHO WAS CAUGHT IN
THE CHOKEHOLD FOR SELLING THREE
ILLEGAL CIGARETTES.
THAT IS NOT A CAPITAL OFFENSE.
>> GARNER DIED AFTER THE POLICE
CHOKEHOLD, BECAUSE HE WAS
STOPPED FOR SELLING CIGARETTES
BUT A GRAND JURY EVENTUALLY SAID
YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO
PRESS CHARGES AGAINST THE COP.
THE FELLOW WHO RUNS THE
SERGEANT'S BENEVOLENT
ASSOCIATION ED MULLEN SAID OF
BILL CLINTON, HIS FACTS ONCE
AGAIN ARE WRONG.
IT'S A FANTASY VIDEO STORY THAT
WAS FABRICATED TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE ABOUT THE ATTACK IN
BENGHAZI WHERE FOUR BRAVE
AMERICANS WERE LEFT BEHIND AND
MURDERED.
HIS COMMENTS ARE NOT ONLY WRONG
BUT DIVISIVE.
SLATE MAGAZINE LAST WEEK SAID
THAT HILLARY SHOULD FIRE BILL
CLINTON.
IS HE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD
TO HER CAMPAIGN?
>> WELL YOU NEVER KNOW UNTIL THE
ELECTION TAKES PLACE, FRANKLY.
HE SAID SOME THINGS WHICH A LOT
OF PEOPLE SAID LIKE LAST WEEK
WHERE HE WAS RANTING AND RAVING
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID WHAT HE
DID THEN WAS RIGHT.
THE NEXT DAY HE CAME OUT AND
APOLOGIZED.
YOU REALLY NEVER KNOW. I WOULD SAY HE PROBABLY HELPS
HER. I DON'T THINK SHE'S DOING
PARTICULARLY WELL.
LOOK SHE'S ANOTHER ONE.
SHE LOSES EVERY WEEK AND YET
SHE'S WINNING, BECAUSE THE
SYSTEM'S RIGGED OKAY?
SHE'S GOT SUPERDELEGATES AND
HOW DID SHE GET THE
SUPERDELEGATE
SUPERDELEGATES. THEY'RE APPOINTED.
I'M NOT A FAN OF BERNIE EVEN A
LITTLE BIT. THE GUY IS TERRIBLE.
EVERY TIME YOU TURN ON THE
TELEVISION HE WINS.
HE WINS A STATE.
THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS ONE.
THEN YOU LISTEN TO THE SO-CALLED
EXPERTS AND THEY SAY BERNIE HAS
NO ROAD TO VICTORY.
OKAY. NOW YOU SAY, WHAT KIND OF A
SYSTEM IS THIS?
SO I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT
BILL HELPS.
PROBABLY HE DOESN'T HURT,
FRANKLY.
>> MR. TRUMP ON ANOTHER STORY,
THE CIA, THE CURRENT CIA CHIEF
SAYS HE WON'T ALLOW
WATERBOARDING EVEN IF ORDERED BY
A FUTURE PRESIDENT.
YOU'VE BEEN VERY FORCEFUL AND
CLEAR ABOUT THE NEED TO USE
HARSHER TACTICS AGAINST ENEMIES
THAT ARE FEROCIOUS AGAINST US.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HIS
COMMENTS AND WHAT KIND OF PERSON
WOULD YOU APPOINT TO THAT
POSITION? >> I THINK HIS COMMENTS ARE
RIDICULOUS. THEY CHOP OFF HEADS AND THEY
DROWN PEOPLE IN CAGES WITH 50 IN
A CAGE AND BIG, STEEL HEAVY
CAGES, DROP THEM RIGHT INTO THE WATER, DROWN PEOPLE.
AND WE CAN'T WATERBOARD AND WE
CAN'T DO ANYTHING AND YOU KNOW
WE'RE PLAYING ON DIFFERENT
FIELDS. AND WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH
ISIS WHICH WE CAN'T BEAT AND THE
REASON WE CAN'T BEAT THEM IS WE
WON'T USE STRONG TACTICS,
WHETHER IT'S THIS OR OTHER
THINGS.
SO I THINK HIS COMMENTS ARE
RIDICULOUS. CAN YOU IMAGINE THESE ISIS
PEOPLE SITTING AROUND EATING
AND TALKING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY
WON'T ALLOW WATERBOARDING AND
THEY JUST CHOPPED OFF 50 HEADS.
>> JUST A LITTLE CRAZY.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
THE STATE OF THE RACE RIGHT NOW.
AS I MENTIONED A LITTLE WHILE
AGO HERE IN NEW YORK YOU'RE
NORTH OF 50% AGAINST.
JOHN KASICH IS ACTUALLY IN
SECOND PLACE.
AND THEN FOLLOWED BY TED CRUZ.
ALSO YOU HAVE A GIGANTIC LEAD
AS WELL IN PENNSYLVANIA.
WHAT ARE YOUR PREDICTIONS FOR
THOSE TWO STATES?
>> WELL I THINK I'M DOING VERY
WELL. I WAS UP IN ROCHESTER WHICH IS
HAVING TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS.
IT'S LOSING ALL OF ITS JOBS.
AND I WAS THERE.
WE HAD A CROWD OF OVER 10,000
PEOPLE. WE HAD TO SEND AWAY 5,000 OR
6,000 OR 7,000 PEOPLE.
IT WAS LIKE A LOVE FEST.
AND I THINK WE'RE DOING REALLY
WELL IN NEW YORK.
YOU KNOW, CRUZ CAME OUT WITH NEW
YORK VALUES. HE HATES NEW YORK.
HE HATES THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK.
AND WHAT WAS REALLY OBVIOUS,
THAT WAS DURING THE DEBATE HE
BROUGHT THAT UP AND I GAVE HIM
A LECTURE ON HOW GREAT THE
PEOPLE ARE IN NEW YORK.
AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
I MEAN YOU KNOW USING THE
WORLD TRADE CENTER AS A
REFERENCE. THE JOB THEY'VE DONE IS
INCREDIBLE.
THE COMEBACK IS INCREDIBLE.
>> AND YOU WENT DOWN -- YOU
TOURED THE 9/11 MEMORIAL OVER
THE WEEKEND.
>> I DID. I DID.
AND THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB
WITH IT.
A REALLY FANTASTIC JOB.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT CRUZ AND
YOU KNOW THEN HE'S TRYING TO
CHANGE IT SO THAT WELL HE DIDN'T
MEAN THAT.
WELL WHEN YOU WATCH HIS WORDS,
DURING THE DEBATE THERE WAS
HATRED. AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT SHOWED
HATRED, AND FOR HIM TO GET ANY
VOTES IN NEW YORK IS HARD FOR ME
TO BELIEVE.
IF I WERE A NEW YORKER I
WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER HIM TO
VOTE FOR HIM.
BECAUSE HE'S DISGRACEFUL.
AND HE DIDN'T HELP NEW YORK WITH
SANDY AND HE DIDN'T HELP NEW
YORK ON OTHER OCCASIONS WHEN HE
COULD HAVE HELPED NEW YORK IN
THE PAST AS A SENATOR.
HE VOTED AGAINST ANYTHING HAVING
TO DO WITH NEW YORK.
SO CRUZ SHOULD NOT BE VOTED ON.
IF YOU'RE A NEW YORKER AND
ASSUMING YOU LOVE NEW YORK
WHICH WE DO AS NEW YORKERS, YOU
SHOULDN'T BE VOTING FOR TED CRUZ.
>> JUST ONE LAST QUESTION THERE
ARE TWO NEW YORKERS WHO WON'T BE
ABLE TO VOTE FOR YOU OR TED CRUZ
IVANKA AND ERIC TRUMP UNABLE TO
REGISTER BECAUSE OF THE RULES.
ARE THE RULES OF NEW YORK UNFAIR
AS WELL? >> NO.
THEY HAD A LONGTIME REGISTER AND
THEY WERE YOU KNOW UNAWARE OF
THE RULES, AND THEY DIDN'T
REGISTER IN TIME.
SO THEY FEEL VERY VERY GUILTY.
THEY FEEL VERY GUILTY.
BUT IT'S FINE. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK THEY HAVE TO REGISTER A
YEAR IN ADVANCE AND THEY DIDN'T.
SO ERIC AND IVANKA I GUESS,
WON'T BE VOTING.
>> ARE YOU CUTTING OFF THEIR
ALLOWANCE?
>> YES. NO MORE ALLOWANCE.
>> DOES THAT MEAN WHAT IF YOU
DECIDED TO CHOOSE IVANKA TO BE
YOUR VP IF YOU DID GET THE
NOMINATION. DOES THAT MEAN SHE COULDN'T
BECOME A VICE PRESIDENT?
>> WELL NUMBER ONE I WOULDN'T
BE DOING THAT.
ALTHOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THAT.
>> WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS.
SHE'S 34 RIGHT NOW BUT SHE WILL
BE 35 AND THE RULES SAY SHE HAS
TO BE 35. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE
THAT CHOICE.
BUT IT WON'T HAPPEN OKAY?
THAT I WILL TELL YOU, IT WON'T
HAPPEN.
>> SHE HAS A LOT GOING ON.
SHE HAS THREE BABIES TO RAISE.
>> SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB.
ABSOLUTELY. >> THA