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REMEMBER THE SPIN STOPS HERE. WE
ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING OUT
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FOR YOU.
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GOOD EVENING, I'M MEGYN KELLY.
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WELCOME TO MY FIRST PRIMETIME NETWORK
SPECIAL.
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HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE IN FOR.
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(OVERLAPPING VOICES) DONALD TRUMP...
DONALD TRUMP... DONALD TRUMP...
DONALD TRUMP.
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IT'S BEEN A LONG NINE MONTHS. IT
HAS BEEN A LONG TIME.
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THIS IS THE FIRST YOU AND I
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HAVE EVER DISCUSSED WHAT HAPPENED.
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(KELLY) IT'S ON.
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YOU'VE CALLED WOMEN YOU DON'T LIKE
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FAT PIGS, DOGS, SLOBS AND DISGUSTING
ANIMALS.
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I THOUGHT IT WAS A FAIR QUESTION.
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I THOUGHT IT WAS UNFAIR.
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YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A COCKTAIL PARTY.
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I WANT TO TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT
THE TWEETING.
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YOU WOULD BE AMAZED AT THE ONES
I DON'T RETWEET.
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"BIMBO"? DID I SAY THAT?
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MANY TIMES. OOH, OKAY.
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¶ I DON'T WANT NO DISSENSION...
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AND, FM ROCKY CHILDHOOD
TO "ROCKY HORROR,"
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TRANSGENDER STAR LAVERNE COX
IS TELLING HER STORY.
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DID YOU EVER WORRY THAT YOUR MOM
DIDN'T LOVE YOU?
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THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WORRIED ABOUT.
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I, UM... MEGYN...
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ALSO, IT'S BEEN NEARLY
TWO DECADES
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SINCE O.J.'S FIRST DEFENSE
LAWYER, ROBERT SHAPIRO,
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HAS SPOKEN.
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MOMENTS AFTER THE VERDICT, O.J.
SIMPSON LEANED OVER
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AND WHISPERED SOMETHING IN YOUR
EAR.
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WHAT DID HE SAY?
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DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE KILLER
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HAS NEVER FACED TRIAL?
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AND WHY CAN'T MICHAEL DOUGLAS
EVER CATCH A BREAK
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WITH THE TABLOIDS?
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WELL, I WAS THINKING WHEN I HEARD
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THAT YOU HAD THREE MONTHS TO LIVE
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AND YOU WERE SITTING FOR THIS INTERVIEW
FOR ME
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THAT MAYBE I WAS ON YOUR BUCKET
LIST.
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(LAUGHS) I'M HONORED.
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TICK-TOCK. (LAUGHS)
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¶
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LET'S JUST DIVE RIGHT IN.
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IT'S BEEN OVER NINE MONTHS
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SINCE THE FIRST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL
DEBATE,
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AND AN ELECTRIC EXCHANGE BETWEEN
YOURS TRULY AND DONALD TRUMP.
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WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN US THEN--
AND AFTER--
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WOULD MAKE HEADLINES AROUND THE
GLOBE.
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FOR THOSE NINE LONG MONTHS, HE
AND I DID NOT SPEAK.
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NOR DID I EVER RESPOND TO HIS ATTACKS.
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TONIGHT, FOR THE FIRST TIME, I'LL
ASK HIM ABOUT THAT...
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AND ABOUT HIS SEEMINGLY UNSTOPPABLE
RISE
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TO THE TOP OF THE REPUBLICAN TICKET.
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AND NOTHING IS OFF-LIMITS.
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AMERICA HAS NEVER SEEN ANYTHING
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LIKE THE POLITICAL JUGGERNAUT
CALLED DONALD TRUMP.
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A BUSINESSMAN AND REALITY
TV STAR
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WITH NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE
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BURST ONTO THE SCENE AND
ELECTRIFIED VOTERS
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WITH BIG THREATS...
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WE'RE GONNA KNOCK THE HELL OUT
OF ISIS.
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...AND BIG PROMISES.
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WE ARE GOING TO WIN IN EVERY ASPECT
OF OUR LIVES.
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WHILE EXPLAINING THE
ART OF THE DEAL...
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WE'RE GONNA MAKE GREAT TRADE DEALS.
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...HE PERFECTED THE ART
OF THE INSULT...
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IT'S RUBIO!
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(CROWD CHEERING)
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...AGAINST RIVALS...
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LITTLE MARCO, LITTLE MARCO.
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LYIN' TED, LYIN' TED.
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...DETRACTORS...
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HE'S A WAR HERO BECAUSE HE WAS
CAPTURED.
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I LIKE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T CAPTURED.
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...AND THE PRESS...
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I WOULD NEVER KILL 'EM.
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BUT I DO HATE 'EM.
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...INCLUDING YOURS TRULY,
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BEGINNING WITH THE VERY FIRST
REPUBLICAN DEBATE.
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MR. TRUMP.
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ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE LOVE ABOUT
YOU
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IS YOU SPEAK YOUR MIND
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AND YOU DON'T USE A POLITICIAN'S
FILTER.
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YOU'VE CALLED WOMEN YOU DON'T LIKE
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FAT PIGS, DOGS, SLOBS AND DISGUSTING
ANIMALS.
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YOUR TWITTER ACCOUNT INCLUDES SEVERAL--
ONLY ROSIE O'DONNELL.
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(LAUGHTER) MR. TRUMP DID NOT
LIKE THE QUESTION--
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NO, IT WASN'T. AT ALL.
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FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS WELL BEYOND
ROSIE O'DONNELL.
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YES, I'M SURE IT WAS.
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DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU LIKE THE
TEMPERAMENT OF A MAN
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WE SHOULD ELECT AS PRESIDENT?
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WHAT I SAY IS WHAT I SAY
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AND HONESTLY, MEGYN, IF YOU DON'T
LIKE IT, I'M SORRY.
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I'VE BEEN VERY NICE TO YOU,
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ALTHOUGH I COULD PROBABLY MAYBE
NOT BE
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BASED ON THE WAY YOU HAVE TREATED
ME,
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BUT I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
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AND HE SENT OUT A TWEET
THAT NIGHT...
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(ANDREA MITCHELL) "WOW, @MEGYNKELLY
REALLY BOMBED TONIGHT."
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AND... A RE-TWEET.
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(MAN) "FOX VIEWERS GIVE LOW MARKS
TO BIMBO @MEGYNKELLY."
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THEN HE MADE THIS REMARK...
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ALL SORTS OF RIDICULOUS
QUESTIONS AND, YOU KNOW,
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YOU COULD SEE THERE WAS BLOOD
COMING OUT OF HER EYES.
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BLOOD COMING OUT OF HER...
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WHEREVER.
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(KELLY) AND HE EXPLAINED IT
THIS WAY.
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(TRUMP ON PHONE) I WAS GOING
TO SAY NOSE AND/OR EARS,
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BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY
COMMON STATEMENT.
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BLOOD POURING OUT OF SOMEBODY'S
NOSE--
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IT'S A STATEMENT SHOWING ANGER.
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(KELLY) THAT SET OFF A FIRESTORM.
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THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO HAS REALLY
HAD A HISTORY
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OF SOME MISOGYNISTIC STATEMENTS.
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(WOMAN) WE'VE SEEN DONALD TRUMP
DO THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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THE PUNDITS SAID HIS ATTACKS
WERE POLITICAL SUICIDE.
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(WOMAN) MORE FALLOUT FROM THE LATEST
REPUBLICAN DEBATE.
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(WOMAN) I DON'T KNOW HOW HE THINKS
HE'S GOING TO WIN AN ELECTION.
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(WOMAN) HIS UNFAVORABILITY WITH
WOMEN IS SKYWARD.
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THIS WEEKEND SURELY SIGNALED THE
END OF TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN.
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THE PUNDITS... WERE WRONG.
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(WOMAN) AN NBC NEWS/SURVEYMONKEY
POLL SHOWS TRUMP WITH 23%.
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(MAN) NEW POLL NUMBERS SHOW THAT
DONALD TRUMP IS SURGING.
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(MAN) THE MORE TRUMP SPEAKS, THE
MORE HE SPIKES.
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IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT HE
SAID... OR HOW HE SAID IT.
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"DONALD J. TRUMP IS CALLING FOR
A TOTAL AND COMPLETE SHUTDOWN
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OF MUSLIMS ENTERING THE UNITED
STATES."
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WHEN MEXICO SENDS ITS PEOPLE...
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THEY'RE BRINGING DRUGS, THEY'RE
BRINGING CRIME,
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THEY'RE RAPISTS...
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VOTERS WERE ANGRY AND THEY
LIKED THAT HE WAS ANGRY TOO.
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IN JANUARY, HE SKIPPED THE
NEXT FOX NEWS DEBATE...
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MEGYN KELLY'S REALLY BIASED AGAINST
ME.
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DO YOU REALLY THINK SHE CAN BE
FAIR AT A DEBATE?
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...WHICH SET OFF A NEW
TORRENT OF TWEETS.
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80,000 TWEETS DIRECTED TOWARDS
MEGYN KELLY.
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VOCATIV BROKE IT DOWN
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TO SEE WHAT THE MOST POPULAR WORDS
WERE.
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(OVERLAPPING VOICES) CRAZY MEGYN
KELLY... SICK... CRAZY... OVERRATED...
WHORE...
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BIMBO... BLONDE... BIMBO... SKANK...
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MEGYN KELLY... SLUT... HOOKER.
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DAYS LATER, HE LOST THE
IOWA CAUCUSES...
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BUT TRUMP WENT ON TO WIN...
AND WIN SOME MORE.
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(MAN) ANOTHER BIG WIN FOR DONALD
TRUMP.
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(MAN) A HUGE WIN FOR DONALD TRUMP.
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AND THEN... A NEW DEBATE...
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NICE TO BE WITH YOU, MEGYN.
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GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
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YOU'RE LOOKING WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING
WELL.
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AS ARE YOU.
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FOLLOWED BY MORE FALLOUT--
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AND A CALL TO BOYCOTT "THE
KELLY FILE".
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(MAN) CAN'T WATCH CRAZY MEGYN ANYMORE.
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¶
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FINALLY IN APRIL-- A
MEETING AT TRUMP TOWER.
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THE MEETING WAS AT MY REQUEST
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AND MR. TRUMP WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH
TO AGREE TO IT.
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(WOMAN) DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ARCH-NEMESIS
MEGYN KELLY
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ARE MAKING PEACE.
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(CHARLIE ROSE) THERE ARE SIGNS
OF A TRUCE THIS MORNING BETWEEN
TRUMP...
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(MAN) THEIR FEUD APPARENTLY DIFFUSED.
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YOU MET WITH MEGYN KELLY TODAY.
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HOW DID THAT GO?
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(CROWD BOOING)
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17 CANDIDATES DOWN AND TRUMP
IS THE LAST MAN STANDING...
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THE PRESUMPTIVE REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE.
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LET'S BEGIN.
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THANK YOU FOR SITTING DOWN WITH
ME.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT'S MY HONOR.
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BEEN A LONG NINE MONTHS...
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IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME, I AGREE.
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I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE BEGINNING
OF YOUR CAMPAIGN.
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THERE HAD TO BE A MOMENT--
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ON STAGE AT A CAMPAIGN RALLY, OR
ONE NIGHT AFTER A WIN--
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WHERE IT OCCURRED TO YOU:
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"I COULD ACTUALLY BE THE PRESIDENT."
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WHEN WAS THAT?
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WELL, I THINK THE DEBATES WERE
REALLY A BIG THING.
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AND NOT TO BRING UP AN UNPLEASANT
DEBATE,
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BUT YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST DEBATE
WAS PRETTY AMAZING.
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AND 24 MILLION PEOPLE WATCHING
IT,
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A RECORD ON CABLE TELEVISION.
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AND I THINK THAT MEANT SOMETHING.
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I THINK THAT FIRST DEBATE MEANT
SOMETHING...
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BECAUSE I FELT VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE
WITH THE SUBJECT
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AND I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE
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WITH THE PEOPLE I WAS COMPETING
AGAINST.
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LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT,
UM, LITIGATION,
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BECAUSE YOU, YOU HAVE THREATENED
TO SUE MANY PEOPLE
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IN THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN.
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BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU WIND UP PRESIDENT,
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YOU ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO
THAT EITHER.
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WELL, YOU ACTUALLY COULD... CAN,
CAN YOU GO FOUR YEARS
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WITHOUT THREATENING TO SUE ANYBODY?
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WELL, WHAT CHINA HAS DONE TO US
HAS BEEN...
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MAYBE YOU DO THE WORLD... (LAUGHS)
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YOU KNOW, YOU DO THREE...
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YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE METHODS OF
SUING COUNTRIES, OKAY?
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IT'S GONNA BE A BUSY LAW FIRM...
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NO, NO, IT'S GONNA BE BUSY, BUT,
UH, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
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AND IT'S ALSO A TACTIC FOR ME,
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IT'S A BUSINESS FOR ME, AND I'VE
BEEN SUCCESSFUL,
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AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, USED LITIGATION.
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AND SOMETIMES I USE IT MAYBE WHEN
I SHOULDN'T,
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AND SOMETIMES I DON'T.
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HAVE YOU MADE ANY MISTAKES IN THIS
CAMPAIGN?
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YOU HAD SAID PUBLICLY YOU THOUGHT
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THE RETWEET ABOUT HEIDI CRUZ WAS
A MISTAKE.
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LET ME JUST...
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WELL, I SAID I COULD HAVE DONE
WITHOUT IT, TO BE EXACT.
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I MEAN, I COULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT
IT...
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WELL, YOU SAID "A MISTAKE."
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ARE YOU WALKING THAT BACK?
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WELL, I DID... NO, NO, I AM NOT
WALKING IT BACK.
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BUT I, BUT I, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T
SAY IT THAT WAY.
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I SAID, UH, I COULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT
IT. I MEAN...
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BUT IT WAS A MISTAKE, WASN'T IT?
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I MEAN, THAT... YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE
DONE THAT, RIGHT?
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I, I WISH I DIDN'T DO IT.
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ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU
COULD SAY SHE'S FAIR GAME
222
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'CAUSE SHE'S VERY MUCH INVOLVED
WITH THE CAMPAIGN.
223
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BUT I DON'T KNOW, SHE JUST SEEMS
LIKE A NICE WOMAN...
224
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BUT THAT, THAT TWEET MOCKED HER
LOOKS...
225
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WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
226
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I HAVE MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS @REALDONALDTRUMP.
227
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I HAVE MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS, I
HAVE MILLIONS OF FACEBOOK...
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I'M, I'M FAMILIAR... YES, YOU ARE.
229
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THE THING THAT GETS ME IN TROUBLE
IS RETWEETS.
230
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THE RETWEET IS REALLY MORE OF A
KILLER THAN THE TWEETS.
231
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THE TWEETS I SEEM TO DO PRETTY
WELL WITH.
232
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SO THAT'S ONE, THE HEIDI CRUZ THING.
233
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LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE...
234
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GO AHEAD, SURE. ...A LIST OF A
COUPLE...
235
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SURE, GO AHEAD. ...AND TELL ME...
236
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...WHETHER YOU HAVE ANY REGRETS
ON IT...
237
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THE, THE COMMENT ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN,
238
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YOU PREFER PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T CAPTURED.
239
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UM, THE COMMENT ABOUT CARLY FIORINA'S
FACE.
240
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BUT DO YOU REGRET ANY OF THOSE
COMMENTS?
241
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UH, YEAH, I GUESS SO, BUT YOU HAVE
TO GO FORWARD, YOU HAVE...
242
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MAKE A MISTAKE, YOU GO FORWARD
243
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AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CORRECT
A MISTAKE...
244
00:08:30,350 --> 00:08:32,16
BUT TO LOOK BACK AND SAY,
245
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"GEE WHIZ, I WISH I DIDN'T DO THIS
OR THAT,"
246
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I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD... I
DON'T EVEN THINK...
247
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IN A CERTAIN WAY, I DON'T EVEN
THINK THAT'S HEALTHY.
248
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I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
YOUR FAMILY.
249
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YOUR, YOUR OLDER BROTHER FRED JR.
250
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WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND DIED AT A
RELATIVELY YOUNG AGE.
251
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WHEN I SAY HIS NAME, WHAT DOES
THAT BRING UP FOR YOU?
252
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WELL, HE WAS GREAT.
253
00:08:52,739 --> 00:08:55,39
UH, HE WAS THE MOST HANDSOME PERSON.
254
00:08:55,41 --> 00:08:58,375
HE WAS A, UH, REALLY SMART GUY.
255
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REALLY, REALLY SMART GUY. HE HAD
EVERYTHING.
256
00:09:01,736 --> 00:09:05,294
BUT AT A CERTAIN AGE, HE STARTED
DRINKING A LITTLE BIT,
257
00:09:05,296 --> 00:09:05,561
A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE,
258
00:09:05,563 --> 00:09:07,511
AND ULTIMATELY IT WAS A BIG PROBLEM.
259
00:09:07,513 --> 00:09:09,862
AND HE'D SAY, "DON'T EVER, EVER
DRINK AND DON'T EVER..."
260
00:09:09,864 --> 00:09:11,21
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT:
261
00:09:11,23 --> 00:09:13,424
I NEVER... I'VE NEVER HAD A GLASS
OF ALCOHOL...
262
00:09:13,427 --> 00:09:18,95
NEVER? I HAVE, I HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS,
OKAY?
263
00:09:18,97 --> 00:09:18,689
BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD... WHAT ARE
THEY? GET SPECIFIC.
264
00:09:18,691 --> 00:09:20,62
I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
THAT.
265
00:09:20,64 --> 00:09:20,898
(LAUGHS) THAT, THAT I CAN'T TALK
ABOUT.
266
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THAT WOULD BE TOO GOOD.
267
00:09:21,884 --> 00:09:23,820
YOU'VE BEEN DIVORCED TWICE.
268
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YES.
269
00:09:24,835 --> 00:09:25,87
DID YOU LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS,
270
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ABOUT LOVE, ABOUT YOURSELF?
271
00:09:26,572 --> 00:09:28,906
WELL, YOU HAVE TO PUT MORE INTO
IT...
272
00:09:28,908 --> 00:09:30,642
I PUT SO MUCH INTO MY BUSINESS
273
00:09:30,644 --> 00:09:33,377
THAT I DIDN'T PUT ENOUGH INTO THE
RELATIONSHIP.
274
00:09:33,380 --> 00:09:35,80
AND I SEE THAT, AND I'VE LEARNED
THAT.
275
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I MEAN, I HAVE LEARNED THAT.
276
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SOMETIMES THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN
DO ABOUT THAT
277
00:09:38,85 --> 00:09:39,517
BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY YOU ARE.
278
00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:42,86
I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY TOLD YOU THAT
YOU HAVE TO EASE UP,
279
00:09:42,88 --> 00:09:43,755
YOU CAN ONLY WORK HALF THE NUMBER
OF HOURS
280
00:09:43,757 --> 00:09:44,989
THAT YOU'RE WORKING,
281
00:09:44,992 --> 00:09:46,958
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D BE ABLE TO
DO THAT...
282
00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,958
I'D GIVE IT A TRY.
283
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,226
NO. BUT EVEN IF THEY SAID,
284
00:09:49,229 --> 00:09:50,895
"YOU'D HAVE AN EVEN BETTER RELATIONSHIP
285
00:09:50,897 --> 00:09:52,596
WITH YOUR HUSBAND"-- AND I HEAR
IT'S JUST GREAT.
286
00:09:52,598 --> 00:10:02,383
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN... (LAUGHS)
287
00:10:02,385 --> 00:10:07,234
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'D BE ABLE
TO DO THAT.
288
00:10:07,236 --> 00:10:10,879
HAS ANYONE EVER HURT YOU EMOTIONALLY?
289
00:10:10,881 --> 00:10:09,785
WELL, I THINK THE BIG THING
290
00:10:09,787 --> 00:10:11,419
WOULD BE MAYBE THE DEATH OF MY
BROTHER.
291
00:10:11,421 --> 00:10:12,398
THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE HARDEST
THING FOR ME, UH, TO TAKE.
292
00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,569
THAT WAS VERY TOUGH BECAUSE IT'S,
YOU KNOW, UNNATURAL.
293
00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:13,465
AND HE SAW A CERTAIN POTENTIAL
IN ME,
294
00:10:13,467 --> 00:10:17,750
AND HE WOULD SAY, "DON'T EVER HAVE
A DRINK."
295
00:10:17,752 --> 00:10:17,877
NOW, I DON'T CARRY IT THAT FAR
WITH PEOPLE, I DON'T.
296
00:10:17,879 --> 00:10:18,576
I NEVER HAD A DRINK.
297
00:10:18,578 --> 00:10:19,700
BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN HAVE A
DRINK
298
00:10:19,702 --> 00:10:20,776
AND THEY CAN DO IT SOCIALLY.
299
00:10:20,778 --> 00:10:23,111
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT CAN LEAD...
300
00:10:23,113 --> 00:10:23,875
YOU TELL ME IF I AM WRONG.
301
00:10:23,877 --> 00:10:25,195
I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET
OUT OF BOUNDS
302
00:10:25,197 --> 00:10:27,898
ON THE EMOTIONAL QUESTION
303
00:10:27,901 --> 00:10:31,268
TO THE, THE SUBJECT OF ALCOHOLISM,
WHICH WE DISCUSSED.
304
00:10:31,270 --> 00:10:33,604
HAS IT HAPPENED THAT SOMEBODY HAS,
305
00:10:33,606 --> 00:10:34,906
HAS DONE SOMETHING TO YOU?
306
00:10:34,908 --> 00:10:36,408
YOU KNOW, NOT A DEATH IN THE FAMILY.
307
00:10:36,410 --> 00:10:39,310
BUT HAS DONE SOMETHING TO YOU,
TO WOUND YOU.
308
00:10:39,312 --> 00:10:42,814
WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW...
I, I CAN SAY THIS.
309
00:10:42,816 --> 00:10:44,882
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING I COULD CERTAINLY
THINK ABOUT
310
00:10:44,885 --> 00:10:47,651
AND, YOU KNOW, COME BACK WITH AN
ANSWER.
311
00:10:47,653 --> 00:10:49,754
NO, IT'S OKAY, I MEAN... BUT, BUT
I, I WILL SAY THIS.
312
00:10:49,756 --> 00:10:56,460
UM, WHEN I'M WOUNDED, I GO AFTER
PEOPLE HARD, OKAY?
313
00:10:56,463 --> 00:10:59,830
AND I TRY AND "UN-WOUND" MYSELF.
314
00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:02,500
MOST KIDS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 6
AND 16
315
00:11:02,502 --> 00:11:05,437
HAVE BEEN BULLIED AT SOME POINT
IN THEIR LIVES.
316
00:11:05,439 --> 00:11:06,471
WERE YOU EVER BULLIED?
317
00:11:06,473 --> 00:11:07,671
NO, I WASN'T.
318
00:11:07,674 --> 00:11:09,406
BUT, BUT I HAVE SEEN BULLYING.
319
00:11:09,408 --> 00:11:11,609
AND BULLYING DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST
BE AS A CHILD.
320
00:11:11,611 --> 00:11:12,811
I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE BULLIED
321
00:11:12,813 --> 00:11:14,638
WHEN THEY'RE 55 YEARS OLD...
322
00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,587
IT CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU ARE 45.
323
00:11:16,589 --> 00:11:17,731
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S... YOU
KNOW, IT HAPPENS, RIGHT?
324
00:11:17,733 --> 00:11:20,593
BUT... YOU GOTTA GET OVER IT.
325
00:11:20,595 --> 00:11:22,219
YOU HAVE TO FIGHT BACK, DO WHATEVER
YOU HAVE TO DO.
326
00:11:22,221 --> 00:11:25,952
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT,
327
00:11:25,954 --> 00:11:27,582
BECAUSE MOST AMERICAN PARENTS TRY
TO RAISE THEIR KIDS
328
00:11:27,584 --> 00:11:30,214
TO NOT BULLY, TO NOT NAME-CALL,
TO NOT TEASE, NOT TAUNT.
329
00:11:30,216 --> 00:11:34,527
HOW CAN THEY EFFECTIVELY BRING
THAT MESSAGE
330
00:11:34,529 --> 00:11:36,500
WHEN THE FRONTRUNNER FOR THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION
331
00:11:36,502 --> 00:11:38,169
DOES ALL OF THOSE THINGS?
332
00:11:38,171 --> 00:11:41,773
WELL, I, I DO IT... REALLY, IT...
333
00:11:41,775 --> 00:11:43,607
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SAYING DURING
THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN
334
00:11:43,609 --> 00:11:45,476
THAT I'M A COUNTERPUNCHER, YOU
UNDERSTAND THAT.
335
00:11:45,479 --> 00:11:47,347
I'M RESPONDING.
336
00:11:47,349 --> 00:11:55,404
NOW, I THEN RESPOND AT TIMES--
MAYBE TEN, I DON'T KNOW--
337
00:11:55,406 --> 00:11:57,160
I MEAN, I RESPOND PRETTY STRONGLY.
338
00:11:57,162 --> 00:11:59,219
BUT IN JUST ABOUT ALL CASES,
339
00:11:59,221 --> 00:12:00,993
I'VE BEEN RESPONDING TO WHAT THEY
DID TO ME.
340
00:12:00,995 --> 00:12:01,292
SO IT'S NOT A ONE-WAY STREET.
341
00:12:01,294 --> 00:12:02,736
LET'S TALK ABOUT US.
342
00:12:02,738 --> 00:12:02,627
OKAY.
343
00:12:02,629 --> 00:12:06,64
I ASKED YOU A TOUGH QUESTION ABOUT
WOMEN.
344
00:12:06,66 --> 00:12:07,65
"BIMBO"?
345
00:12:07,67 --> 00:12:08,65
OVER YOUR LIFE, MEGYN,
346
00:12:08,67 --> 00:12:09,533
YOU BEEN CALLED A LOT WORSE.
347
00:12:09,536 --> 00:12:12,169
NOW, IF YOU COULD GO BACK AND WAVE
A MAGIC WAND,
348
00:12:12,171 --> 00:12:15,205
AND HAVE BEEN BORN WITH A FEMALE
BODY,
349
00:12:15,208 --> 00:12:16,341
WOULD YOU DO THAT?
350
00:12:16,343 --> 00:12:18,88
¶
351
00:12:18,90 --> 00:12:53,143
WOULD YOU DO THAT? WHAT ARE YOU
DOING?
352
00:12:53,145 --> 00:12:54,578
SARA, I LOVE YOU, AND...
353
00:12:54,580 --> 00:12:55,747
[PHONE RINGS]
354
00:12:55,749 --> 00:12:58,81
AH, IT'S MY BROTHER. KEEP GOING...
355
00:12:58,83 --> 00:12:59,83
SARA, WILL YOU MARRY...
356
00:12:59,85 --> 00:13:01,252
[PHONE RINGS AGAIN]
357
00:13:01,254 --> 00:13:03,588
WHAT DO YOU WANT, TODD????
358
00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:04,922
[CROWD CHEERING]
359
00:13:04,924 --> 00:13:06,190
KEEP IT GOING!!!!
360
00:13:06,192 --> 00:13:08,258
IF YOU SIT ON YOUR PHONE, YOU
BUTT-DIAL PEOPLE.
361
00:13:08,260 --> 00:13:09,494
IT'S WHAT YOU DO. TODD!
362
00:13:09,496 --> 00:13:10,594
IF YOU WANT TO SAVE FIFTEEN
PERCENT OR MORE
363
00:13:10,596 --> 00:13:12,596
ON CAR INSURANCE, YOU SWITCH
TO GEICO.
364
00:13:12,598 --> 00:13:15,40
IT'S WHAT YOU DO.
365
00:13:15,42 --> 00:13:26,240
I KNOW WE JUST MET LIKE, TWO MONTHS
AGO...
366
00:13:26,242 --> 00:13:27,407
YES!
367
00:13:27,409 --> 00:13:28,408
[CROWD CHEERING]
368
00:13:28,411 --> 00:13:31,278
[CROWD CHEERING OVER PHONE]
369
00:13:31,280 --> 00:15:34,783
LET'S TALK ABOUT US.
370
00:15:34,785 --> 00:15:36,464
OKAY.
371
00:15:36,466 --> 00:15:36,351
WE WERE ALWAYS FRIENDLY.
372
00:15:36,353 --> 00:15:39,351
RIGHT. GOOD RELATIONSHIP. RIGHT?
373
00:15:39,353 --> 00:15:41,671
AND THEN CAME THE AUGUST 6, 2015
DEBATE,
374
00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:45,55
AND I ASKED YOU A TOUGH QUESTION
ABOUT WOMEN,
375
00:15:45,57 --> 00:15:46,625
USING ONLY THE WORDS THAT YOU HAD
USED.
376
00:15:46,627 --> 00:15:48,127
I THOUGHT IT WAS A FAIR QUESTION.
377
00:15:48,129 --> 00:15:49,294
WHY DIDN'T YOU?
378
00:15:49,296 --> 00:15:51,797
I THOUGHT IT WAS UNFAIR, I THOUGHT
IT...
379
00:15:51,799 --> 00:15:53,598
FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T THINK IT
WAS REALLY A QUESTION.
380
00:15:53,601 --> 00:15:55,200
I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF A STATEMENT.
381
00:15:55,203 --> 00:15:56,335
THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION
382
00:15:56,338 --> 00:15:58,638
THAT I'VE EVER BEEN ASKED DURING
A DEBATE.
383
00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,739
AND I'VE NEVER DEBATED BEFORE.
384
00:15:59,741 --> 00:16:00,906
I MEAN, MY WHOLE LIFE IS A DEBATE,
385
00:16:00,908 --> 00:16:02,908
BUT I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY DEBATED
BEFORE.
386
00:16:02,911 --> 00:16:05,111
AND I'M SAYING TO MYSELF, "MAN,
WHAT A QUESTION."
387
00:16:05,113 --> 00:16:07,580
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEN YOU HAVE
BRET DOING HIS THING.
388
00:16:07,582 --> 00:16:10,882
SO I'M SAYING TO MYSELF, "I GOT
TWO HOURS OF THIS?"
389
00:16:10,885 --> 00:16:13,853
I DON'T REALLY BLAME YOU BECAUSE
YOU'RE DOING YOUR THING.
390
00:16:13,855 --> 00:16:17,90
BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T
HAVE TO LIKE IT...
391
00:16:17,92 --> 00:16:18,523
AFTERWARD, YOU SAID
392
00:16:18,526 --> 00:16:20,859
THAT YOU DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE MODERATORS
HAD BEEN "NICE."
393
00:16:20,861 --> 00:16:24,697
BUT DO YOU THINK IT'S THE JOURNALIST'S
ROLE TO BE "NICE"
394
00:16:24,699 --> 00:16:26,231
TO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AT A
DEBATE?
395
00:16:26,234 --> 00:16:28,166
NO, FAIR. I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE
NICE.
396
00:16:28,169 --> 00:16:29,835
BUT YOU USED THE WORD "NICE."
397
00:16:29,838 --> 00:16:32,905
WELL, OKAY. UH, NO, I DON'T THINK
SO.
398
00:16:32,907 --> 00:16:34,172
I MEAN, I MIGHT HAVE SAID THEY
WEREN'T NICE,
399
00:16:34,174 --> 00:16:35,875
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE
TO BE NICE.
400
00:16:35,877 --> 00:16:36,875
I MEAN, I'VE KNOWN MANY...
401
00:16:36,877 --> 00:16:38,111
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A COCKTAIL PARTY...
402
00:16:38,113 --> 00:16:39,846
NO, NO, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IN
A CERTAIN WAY,
403
00:16:39,848 --> 00:16:41,347
WHAT YOU DID MIGHT HAVE BEEN A
FAVOR,
404
00:16:41,349 --> 00:16:45,333
BECAUSE I FELT SO GOOD ABOUT HAVING
GOTTEN THROUGH...
405
00:16:45,335 --> 00:16:48,606
I SAID, "IF I CAN GET THROUGH THIS
DEBATE,
406
00:16:48,608 --> 00:16:55,870
WITH THOSE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN GET
THROUGH ANYTHING."
407
00:16:55,872 --> 00:16:59,579
YOU SEEMED TO STAY ANGRY FOR MONTHS.
408
00:16:59,581 --> 00:17:00,130
YEAH.
409
00:17:00,132 --> 00:17:01,631
WAS THAT REAL, OR WAS THAT STRATEGY?
410
00:17:01,633 --> 00:17:01,691
WELL, I'M A REAL PERSON.
411
00:17:01,693 --> 00:17:02,172
I DON'T SAY, "OH, GEE, I'M ANGRY
TONIGHT,
412
00:17:02,174 --> 00:17:03,711
BUT TOMORROW YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND."
413
00:17:03,713 --> 00:17:04,388
SEE, I DO, I DO HAVE A THEORY
414
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:04,972
THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY DOES...
415
00:17:04,974 --> 00:17:06,906
AND THIS COULD HAPPEN AGAIN WITH
US...
416
00:17:06,908 --> 00:17:11,265
I MEAN, IT COULD BE, UH, EVEN DOING
THIS PARTICULAR INTERVIEW.
417
00:17:11,267 --> 00:17:11,584
I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR YOU,
418
00:17:11,586 --> 00:17:12,955
THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO CALL ME AND
SAY,
419
00:17:12,957 --> 00:17:14,792
"LET'S GET TOGETHER AND LET'S TALK."
420
00:17:14,794 --> 00:17:19,330
TO ME... I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE
THAT.
421
00:17:19,332 --> 00:17:21,350
I DON'T SAY THAT AS AN, YOU KNOW,
AS A POSITIVE;
422
00:17:21,352 --> 00:17:22,363
I THINK IT'S A NEGATIVE, FOR ME.
423
00:17:22,365 --> 00:17:23,824
AND YOU WALK INTO TRUMP TOWER,
YOU DIDN'T...
424
00:17:23,826 --> 00:17:25,611
WE DIDN'T HAVE, LIKE, ON A NEUTRAL
SITE
425
00:17:25,613 --> 00:17:29,216
OR OVER AT FOX OR SOMETHING.
426
00:17:29,218 --> 00:17:30,338
THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT
THING
427
00:17:30,339 --> 00:17:31,746
AND I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.
428
00:17:31,748 --> 00:17:33,369
I THINK THE DOORMEN ARE STILL RECOVERING...
429
00:17:33,371 --> 00:17:36,167
I, I THINK THE WHOLE BUILDING IS
RECOVERING. (LAUGHS)
430
00:17:36,169 --> 00:17:38,118
THERE ARE PEOPLE GOING LIKE, "THIS
CAN'T BE POSSIBLE," RIGHT?
431
00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:38,419
AND THIS IS THE FIRST YOU AND I
HAVE EVER DISCUSSED
432
00:17:38,421 --> 00:17:42,974
WHAT HAPPENED... THAT'S TRUE.
433
00:17:42,976 --> 00:17:47,700
...BETWEEN US, OVER THE PAST NINE
MONTHS...
434
00:17:47,702 --> 00:17:48,209
...'CAUSE YOU AND I DID NOT TALK
ABOUT THAT
435
00:17:48,211 --> 00:17:49,317
AT OUR MEETING. WE DIDN'T DISCUSS
IT.
436
00:17:49,318 --> 00:17:50,616
NO, WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT.
437
00:17:50,618 --> 00:17:50,938
SO WHEN YOU LOOK BACK
438
00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:51,786
ON THE, ON THE PAST NINE MONTHS,
439
00:17:51,788 --> 00:17:55,390
FROM THAT FIRST DEBATE TO NOW,
ANY REGRETS?
440
00:17:55,392 --> 00:17:53,861
UH, ABSOLUTELY I HAVE REGRETS.
441
00:17:53,863 --> 00:17:54,812
I DON'T THINK I WANT TO DISCUSS
442
00:17:54,814 --> 00:17:57,599
WHAT THE REGRETS ARE, BUT ABSOLUTELY.
443
00:17:57,601 --> 00:17:59,934
I, I COULD HAVE DONE CERTAIN THINGS
DIFFERENTLY...
444
00:17:59,936 --> 00:18:03,206
I COULD HAVE MAYBE USED DIFFERENT
LANGUAGE,
445
00:18:03,208 --> 00:18:04,561
UH, IN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES...
446
00:18:04,562 --> 00:18:06,576
BUT OVERALL I HAVE TO BE VERY HAPPY
WITH THE OUTCOME...
447
00:18:06,578 --> 00:18:10,401
AND I THINK IF I DIDN'T CONDUCT
MYSELF IN THE WAY I'VE DONE IT,
448
00:18:10,403 --> 00:18:12,357
I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL ACTUALLY.
449
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,790
IF I WERE SOFT... IF I WERE, YOU
KNOW, "PRESIDENTIAL."
450
00:18:16,792 --> 00:18:18,726
OKAY, "PRESIDENTIAL."
451
00:18:18,728 --> 00:18:20,169
IT'S... IN A WAY, IT'S A BAD WORD,
452
00:18:20,171 --> 00:18:22,240
BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH
BEING "PRESIDENTIAL,"
453
00:18:22,242 --> 00:18:25,436
BUT IF I WOULD NOT HAVE FOUGHT
BACK THE WAY I FOUGHT BACK,
454
00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:38,449
I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL.
455
00:18:38,451 --> 00:18:40,637
YOU'RE NO LONGER JUST DONALD TRUMP,
BUSINESSMAN,
456
00:18:40,639 --> 00:18:43,284
OR DONALD TRUMP, HOST OF "CELEBRITY
APPRENTICE".
457
00:18:43,286 --> 00:18:48,632
NOW YOU'RE STEPS AWAY FROM THE
PRESIDENCY.
458
00:18:48,634 --> 00:18:49,204
HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT, IN
THIS POSITION,
459
00:18:49,206 --> 00:18:57,345
TO THE POWER THAT YOUR MESSAGING
HAS
460
00:18:57,347 --> 00:19:00,365
ON THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE YOU
TARGET
461
00:19:00,367 --> 00:19:03,269
AND ON THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO
TAKE THEIR CUE FROM YOU?
462
00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:05,652
I HAVE, I HAVE.
463
00:19:05,654 --> 00:19:07,854
AND I SEE SUFFERING.
464
00:19:07,855 --> 00:19:09,393
I MEAN, I SEE TREMENDOUS SUFFERING,
AND I UNDERSTAND IT.
465
00:19:09,395 --> 00:19:09,697
I HAVE A VERY BIG HEART.
466
00:19:09,699 --> 00:19:10,475
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
THAT,
467
00:19:10,477 --> 00:19:12,413
BUT PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME DO.
468
00:19:12,415 --> 00:19:12,608
AND WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR
COUNTRY.
469
00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:13,223
AND I DO FEEL AMERICA FIRST.
470
00:19:13,225 --> 00:19:14,258
I MEAN, AMERICA HAS BEEN FOURTH
471
00:19:14,260 --> 00:19:14,985
AND FIFTH AND NINTH, I MEAN...
472
00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:15,586
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
473
00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:16,715
WHEN DONALD TRUMP... I DO.
474
00:19:16,717 --> 00:19:18,189
...TARGETS SOMEBODY AND SAYS,
475
00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:19,597
"THIS PERSON IS BAD, THAT PERSON
IS BAD,"
476
00:19:19,599 --> 00:19:21,132
IT CREATES A FIRESTORM IN THOSE
PEOPLE'S LIVES.
477
00:19:21,134 --> 00:19:21,680
AND MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO-CALLED
"CIVILIANS"
478
00:19:21,682 --> 00:19:21,892
WHO HAVEN'T PUT THEMSELVES OUT
THERE AS PUBLIC FIGURES.
479
00:19:21,894 --> 00:19:24,692
BUT IT'S IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING
THAT THEY DID.
480
00:19:24,694 --> 00:19:25,719
OR IT'S IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING...
481
00:19:25,721 --> 00:19:28,55
BUT YOU ARE SO POWERFUL... YOU
ARE SO POWERFUL NOW...
482
00:19:28,57 --> 00:19:29,390
I DON'T VIEW MYSELF AS THAT.
483
00:19:29,391 --> 00:19:32,58
I MEAN, I VIEW MYSELF AS A PERSON
THAT--
484
00:19:32,60 --> 00:19:34,395
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE-- IS FIGHTING
FOR SURVIVAL.
485
00:19:34,396 --> 00:19:36,97
I, THAT'S ALL I VIEW MYSELF AS.
486
00:19:36,98 --> 00:19:39,866
AND I REALLY VIEW MYSELF NOW AS
SOMEWHAT OF A MESSENGER...
487
00:19:39,868 --> 00:19:40,868
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM...
488
00:19:40,869 --> 00:19:42,837
THIS IS A MASSIVE THING THAT'S
GOING ON.
489
00:19:42,838 --> 00:19:44,604
THESE ARE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE
490
00:19:44,606 --> 00:19:52,226
THAT HAVE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED
FROM THIS COUNTRY.
491
00:19:52,228 --> 00:19:54,206
I WAS IN FRONT OF A GROUP THE OTHER
DAY,
492
00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:56,659
25,000... AT LEAST 25,000 PEOPLE.
493
00:19:56,661 --> 00:19:56,665
THE PLACE WAS GOING CRAZY.
494
00:19:56,667 --> 00:19:59,218
AND I SAID, I'M LIKE THE MESSENGER.
495
00:19:59,219 --> 00:20:00,287
IT'S TRUE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE
LISTENING TO YOU...
496
00:20:00,289 --> 00:20:02,970
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING THEIR
CUE FROM YOU...
497
00:20:02,972 --> 00:20:06,434
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION,
498
00:20:06,436 --> 00:20:11,692
IS WHETHER, NOW, SO CLOSE TO THE
OVAL OFFICE,
499
00:20:11,694 --> 00:20:15,177
WHETHER YOU WILL TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY
SERIOUSLY,
500
00:20:15,178 --> 00:20:17,275
AND CHANGE YOUR TONE TO TRY TO
BE MORE UNIFYING
501
00:20:17,277 --> 00:20:16,533
AND LESS DIVISIVE.
502
00:20:16,535 --> 00:20:17,387
I DO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
503
00:20:17,389 --> 00:20:18,572
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
504
00:20:18,574 --> 00:20:19,807
AND WHEN I SEE THE FERVOR...
505
00:20:19,808 --> 00:20:22,876
WHEN I SEE 25,000 PEOPLE THAT HAVE
SEATS,
506
00:20:22,878 --> 00:20:24,946
AND NOT ONE PERSON-- DURING A,
AN HOUR SPEECH--
507
00:20:24,947 --> 00:20:26,180
WILL SIT DOWN.
508
00:20:26,182 --> 00:20:27,647
I SAY, "SIT DOWN, EVERYBODY, SIT
DOWN."
509
00:20:27,649 --> 00:20:28,715
AND THEY DON'T SIT DOWN.
510
00:20:28,717 --> 00:20:29,884
THEY REFUSE TO SIT DOWN.
511
00:20:29,885 --> 00:20:31,385
I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT COMPLIMENT.
512
00:20:31,386 --> 00:20:33,553
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE POWER OF
THE MESSAGE.
513
00:20:33,555 --> 00:20:35,723
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
514
00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:37,291
I WANT TO TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT
THE TWEETING.
515
00:20:37,292 --> 00:20:39,93
OKAY. SET THE SCENE FOR ME.
516
00:20:39,94 --> 00:20:41,128
BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE I WAS WHEN
I WAS
517
00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:42,996
ON THE RECEIVING END OF A LOT OF
THOSE TWEETS.
518
00:20:42,998 --> 00:20:45,333
BUT I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED WHERE
YOU WERE.
519
00:20:45,334 --> 00:20:49,235
I'M PICTURING, LIKE, A CRUSHED
VELVET SMOKING JACKET, YOU KNOW,
520
00:20:49,237 --> 00:20:50,972
CHAISE LOUNGE, SLIPPERS...
521
00:20:50,973 --> 00:20:52,707
MAYBE, MAYBE NOT AS FANCY AS THAT...
522
00:20:52,708 --> 00:20:54,342
MAYBE PROBABLY A LOT LESS FANCY...
WALK US THROUGH IT.
523
00:20:54,343 --> 00:20:56,811
YOU SAID IT'S YOU, IF IT'S PAST
7:00 IN THE EVENING...
524
00:20:56,812 --> 00:20:58,713
THIS WEEKEND, I PICKED UP 114,000
PEOPLE...
525
00:20:58,714 --> 00:21:00,714
BUT WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU PICK
UP YOUR IPHONE...?
526
00:21:00,716 --> 00:21:01,948
YES. ...AND ACTUALLY TWEET YOURSELF?
527
00:21:01,950 --> 00:21:03,917
USUALLY AFTER 7:00 OR 8:00, I'LL
DO IT MYSELF.
528
00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:06,453
BUT DURING THE DAY, IF I'M IN THE
OFFICE...
529
00:21:06,455 --> 00:21:09,422
I HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT
I'LL JUST CALL OUT A TWEET TO.
530
00:21:09,424 --> 00:21:10,724
IT'S ALWAYS MY WRITING.
531
00:21:10,726 --> 00:21:12,426
DO YOU CALL OUT "EXCLAMATION POINT"?
532
00:21:12,427 --> 00:21:15,296
I DO. I SAY, "EXCLAMATION POINT!"
(LAUGHS) THAT'S SAD!
533
00:21:15,297 --> 00:21:16,597
YOU KNOW ME WELL; YOU KNOW ME WELL.
534
00:21:16,598 --> 00:21:17,598
NO, I'LL SAY "EXCLAMATION POINT."
535
00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:18,633
LIKE... I'M FAMILIAR.
536
00:21:18,635 --> 00:21:20,401
SO THEY'LL TYPE IT OUT FOR ME REAL
FAST,
537
00:21:20,402 --> 00:21:21,802
BRING IT IN, I'LL BE IN A MEETING.
538
00:21:21,803 --> 00:21:23,69
BLAH BLAH BLAH, BOOM,
539
00:21:23,71 --> 00:21:24,871
"PUT AN EXCLAMATION POINT HERE,"
AND THEY'LL SEND IT OUT.
540
00:21:24,873 --> 00:21:26,506
SO, SO I DON'T DO THE PHYSICAL.
541
00:21:26,508 --> 00:21:29,510
NOW, AFTER, AFTER LIKE 7:00 OR
8:00,
542
00:21:29,511 --> 00:21:32,213
IF I'M HOME, I'LL DO IT MYSELF.
543
00:21:32,214 --> 00:21:34,814
AND I HAVE FANS-- AND YOU'VE PROBABLY
LEARNED--
544
00:21:34,816 --> 00:21:36,217
AND I DIDN'T DO THIS FOR THIS REASON.
545
00:21:36,218 --> 00:21:38,519
BUT WHEN YOU AND I WERE HAVING
OUR LITTLE DIFFICULTY,
546
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:51,459
UM, YOU PROBABLY HAD
547
00:21:51,461 --> 00:21:53,877
SOME PRETTY NASTY TWEETS SENT YOUR
WAY.
548
00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:56,10
I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY, BUT I'VE
HEARD THAT.
549
00:21:56,12 --> 00:21:57,924
I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN,
550
00:21:57,926 --> 00:22:01,247
BUT I HAVE FANS, THEY REALLY LOVE...
551
00:22:01,249 --> 00:22:01,275
WE HAVE AN UNBELIEVABLE BOND,
552
00:22:01,277 --> 00:22:02,633
WE HAVE AN UNBELIEVABLE RELATIONSHIP.
553
00:22:02,635 --> 00:22:04,111
BUT YOU RETWEET SOME OF THOSE...
IT'S NOT JUST THE FANS.
554
00:22:04,113 --> 00:22:04,528
YEAH, BUT NOT THE MORE NASTY ONES.
555
00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:06,52
YOU WOULD BE AMAZED AT THE ONES
I DON'T RETWEET.
556
00:22:06,53 --> 00:22:06,141
"BIMBO"?
557
00:22:06,143 --> 00:22:07,263
UH, WELL, THAT WAS A RETWEET, YEAH.
558
00:22:07,265 --> 00:22:07,171
DID I SAY THAT?
559
00:22:07,173 --> 00:22:08,198
MANY TIMES.
560
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,181
OOH, OKAY.
561
00:22:09,183 --> 00:22:15,14
EXCUSE ME. (LAUGHS)
562
00:22:15,16 --> 00:22:14,310
WHAT DO YOU THINK WITH, I MEAN...?
563
00:22:14,312 --> 00:22:15,785
NOT THE MOST HORRIBLE THING--
564
00:22:15,787 --> 00:22:17,109
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, POLITICALLY--
BUT NOT THE MOST...
565
00:22:17,111 --> 00:22:18,5
OVER YOUR LIFE, MEGYN, YOU'VE BEEN
CALLED A LOT WORSE,
566
00:22:18,7 --> 00:22:18,324
IS THAT RIGHT, WOULDN'T YOU SAY?
567
00:22:18,326 --> 00:22:19,427
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD A LIFE
568
00:22:19,428 --> 00:22:21,362
THAT'S NOT BEEN THAT EASY AND...
569
00:22:21,364 --> 00:22:22,762
IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. IT'S NOT, IT'S
NOT ABOUT ME.
570
00:22:22,764 --> 00:22:23,764
IT'S ABOUT THE MESSAGING...
571
00:22:23,765 --> 00:22:25,66
NO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT,
NO, NO.
572
00:22:25,67 --> 00:22:26,567
...TO, TO YOUNG GIRLS AND TO OTHER
WOMEN...
573
00:22:26,568 --> 00:22:28,269
BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF FIGHTING BACK.
574
00:22:28,270 --> 00:22:30,104
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A MODERN-DAY
FORM
575
00:22:30,105 --> 00:22:32,206
OF FIGHTING BACK; I MEAN, IT REALLY
IS.
576
00:22:32,208 --> 00:22:33,406
BUT, UM...
577
00:22:33,408 --> 00:22:35,241
ARE YOU GONNA STOP THAT, AS PRESIDENT?
578
00:22:35,243 --> 00:22:37,478
WELL, I AM GONNA STOP IT ABOUT
YOU NOW, BECAUSE... (LAUGHS)
579
00:22:37,479 --> 00:22:40,246
...I, I THINK... I LIKE OUR RELATIONSHIP
RIGHT NOW.
580
00:22:40,248 --> 00:22:42,416
SO I AM CERTAINLY NOT GONNA DO
IT WITH YOU.
581
00:22:42,417 --> 00:22:44,185
YEAH, I, I THINK SO... NOW YOU
HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER...
582
00:22:44,187 --> 00:22:45,686
I, I WILL SAY THIS... THAT IS ACTUALLY
MUCH MORE EFFICIENT...
583
00:22:45,687 --> 00:22:46,921
I DO, AND YOU GAVE ME YOUR CELL
PHONE NUMBER...
584
00:22:46,922 --> 00:22:48,55
AND YOU PROMISED YOU WOULD NOT
USE IT FOR EVIL.
585
00:22:48,57 --> 00:22:49,623
NO NO NO, I PROMISE, I PROMISE.
586
00:22:49,625 --> 00:22:51,157
YOU'LL NEVER SEE THAT; YOU'LL NEVER
SEE THAT.
587
00:22:51,159 --> 00:22:55,129
IF YOU DON'T BECOME PRESIDENT,
588
00:22:55,130 --> 00:23:02,400
WILL THIS ALL HAVE BEEN FOR NOTHING,
589
00:23:02,402 --> 00:23:03,572
OR WILL YOU HAVE CHANGED AMERICA?
590
00:23:03,574 --> 00:23:05,201
SO I GOT A CALL FROM A GREAT WRITER,
591
00:23:05,203 --> 00:23:06,822
WHO SAID TO ME, "CONGRATULATIONS."
592
00:23:06,824 --> 00:23:07,708
I SAY, "CONGRATULATIONS ON WHAT?"
593
00:23:07,709 --> 00:23:10,578
HE SAID, "WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HAS
NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE."
594
00:23:10,579 --> 00:23:11,979
I SAID, "WHAT HAVE I DONE?"
595
00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:13,781
AND HE SAID, THEN HE TALKED ABOUT
DIFFERENT THINGS...
596
00:23:13,782 --> 00:23:16,850
AND I SAID, "WELL, UNLESS I WIN,
I CAN'T DO THE CHANGES.
597
00:23:16,852 --> 00:23:18,619
"I CAN'T MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
598
00:23:18,620 --> 00:23:22,422
"I CAN'T LOWER TAXES AND, AND MAKE
OUR MILITARY STRONG.
599
00:23:22,424 --> 00:23:24,90
"AND GET ALONG WITH OTHER NATIONS,
FRANKLY,
600
00:23:24,92 --> 00:23:25,792
"THAT WE DON'T GET ALONG WITH RIGHT
NOW.
601
00:23:25,794 --> 00:23:27,128
"BUT DO BETTER WITH THEM, YOU KNOW,
602
00:23:27,130 --> 00:23:30,97
SO THAT THEY'RE NOT RIPPING US
OFF LIKE THEY ARE."
603
00:23:30,98 --> 00:23:32,399
BUT I SAID, "UNLESS I WIN, I CAN'T
DO THAT."
604
00:23:32,401 --> 00:23:33,868
HE SAID, "NO, NO, YOU'RE WRONG.
605
00:23:33,869 --> 00:23:36,770
"WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HAS NEVER BEEN
DONE BEFORE,
606
00:23:36,772 --> 00:23:38,239
AND IT'LL GO DOWN IN HISTORY."
607
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,973
AND I APPRECIATE...
608
00:23:39,975 --> 00:23:41,141
AND I DON'T WANT TO REALLY TALK
HIM OUT OF IT,
609
00:23:41,143 --> 00:23:42,375
'CAUSE IN CASE IT DOESN'T WORK
OUT,
610
00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:43,777
I GUESS I'D RATHER HAVE THAT NARRATIVE.
611
00:23:43,779 --> 00:23:46,713
BUT I WILL SAY THIS: IF I DON'T
GO ALL THE WAY,
612
00:23:46,715 --> 00:23:49,583
AND IF I DON'T WIN, I WILL CONSIDER
IT TO BE
613
00:23:49,584 --> 00:23:54,220
A TOTAL AND COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME,
ENERGY AND MONEY.
614
00:23:54,222 --> 00:23:56,890
MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
615
00:23:56,892 --> 00:23:58,458
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S BEEN
FASCINATING.
616
00:23:58,460 --> 00:23:59,727
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE
IT.
617
00:23:59,729 --> 00:24:01,161
THANKS, MEGYN.
618
00:24:01,163 --> 00:24:04,464
WHEN YOU TOLD YOUR MOTHER THAT
YOU IDENTIFIED AS FEMALE,
619
00:24:04,466 --> 00:24:05,666
WHAT WAS HER REACTION?
620
00:24:05,667 --> 00:24:06,866
THE FIRST THING MY MOTHER SAID
WAS,
621
00:24:06,868 --> 00:24:08,635
"BUT YOU HAVE SUCH BIG HANDS AND
FEET."
622
00:24:08,637 --> 00:24:10,537
YOU WOULD THINK IF SHE WAS GONNA
OBJECT TO A BODY PART,
623
00:24:10,539 --> 00:24:11,871
SHE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN SOMETHING
624
00:24:11,873 --> 00:24:13,374
OTHER THAN THE HANDS AND THE FEET.
(LAUGHING)
625
00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,409
AND LATER IN THE SHOW, MORE
DONALD TRUMP,
626
00:24:15,411 --> 00:24:17,311
WITH A STUNNING ADMISSION.
627
00:24:17,312 --> 00:24:18,444
I KNEW IT!
628
00:24:18,446 --> 00:24:20,213
¶
629
00:24:20,215 --> 00:24:25,52
WE SHOWED THESE HEY YEVERYDAY
EXPERTS...IDE?T!
630
00:24:25,53 --> 00:24:26,20
I'M A POLICE OFFICER.
631
00:24:26,21 --> 00:24:26,786
PARAMEDIC.
632
00:24:26,788 --> 00:24:28,21
THE VALUE OF NISSAN'S...
633
00:24:28,23 --> 00:24:28,989
[SAFETY BEEPING]
634
00:24:28,990 --> 00:24:30,990
INTELLIGENT SAFETY SHIELD
TECHNOLOGIES.
635
00:24:30,992 --> 00:24:41,185
WHOA!
636
00:24:41,187 --> 00:24:43,786
LIKE FORWARD EMERGENCY BRAKING
637
00:24:43,788 --> 00:24:46,766
THAT COULD STOP BONUS
CASH THIS MEMORIAL DAY,Y
638
00:24:46,768 --> 00:24:49,135
DURING NISSAN'S SAFETY
TODAY EVENT.
639
00:24:49,137 --> 00:24:52,572
FOR A LIMITED TIME, SAVE UP TO
$1,500 ON THE 2016 NISSAN ROGUE
640
00:24:52,574 --> 00:24:54,673
WITH $500 MEMORIAL DAY BONUS
CASH.
641
00:24:54,675 --> 00:24:55,741
WHERE CAN I BUY IT?
642
00:24:55,743 --> 00:24:57,9
SIGN ME UP!
643
00:24:57,11 --> 00:25:00,78
SHOP YOUR LOCAL NISSAN STORE
AND CHOOSENISSAN.COM TODAY.
644
00:25:00,80 --> 00:25:01,113
¶
645
00:25:01,114 --> 00:25:12,692
¶JAKE REESE, "DAY TO FEEL ALIVE"¶
646
00:25:12,694 --> 00:25:24,703
¶JAKE REESE, "DAY TO FEEL ALIVE"¶
647
00:25:24,705 --> 00:25:30,742
¶JAKE REESE, "DAY TO FEEL ALIVE"¶
648
00:25:30,744 --> 00:26:04,709
OUR CUSTOMER IS A OUR 21-YEAR-OLD
FEMALE.
649
00:26:04,711 --> 00:26:05,778
HEAVILY INTO BASKETBALL.
650
00:26:05,780 --> 00:26:07,46
WAIT. DATA JUST CHANGED...
651
00:26:07,48 --> 00:26:08,848
NOW SHE'S INTO DISC SPORTS.
652
00:26:08,849 --> 00:26:09,981
AH, NO SHE'S NOT.
653
00:26:09,983 --> 00:26:10,750
SINCE WHEN?
654
00:26:10,752 --> 00:26:11,851
SINCE NOW. SHE'S INTO TAI CHI.
655
00:26:11,853 --> 00:26:13,252
SHE FOUND DISC SPORTS TOO STRESSFUL.
656
00:26:13,254 --> 00:26:14,353
HOLD ON. LET ME ASK YOU THIS...
657
00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:17,88
WHAT'S SHE GONNA LIKE SIX MONTHS
FROM NOW?
658
00:26:17,90 --> 00:26:24,363
WHO DO WE HAVE ON AERIAL KARATE?
659
00:26:24,364 --> 00:26:24,796
STEVE.
660
00:26:24,798 --> 00:26:25,197
STEVE. STEVE.
661
00:26:25,199 --> 00:26:25,898
AND ALEXIS.
662
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:26,933
UH, NO. JUST STEVE.
663
00:26:26,935 --> 00:26:27,500
JUST STEVE.
664
00:26:27,501 --> 00:26:28,234
JUST STEVE.
665
00:26:28,235 --> 00:26:29,734
LIVE BUSINESS, POWERED BY SAP.
666
00:26:29,736 --> 00:27:33,332
WHEN YOU RUN LIVE, YOU
RUN SIMPLE.
667
00:27:33,333 --> 00:27:39,505
THE E-CLASS HAS 11 INTELLIGENT
IT RECOGNIZES PEDESTRIANSS.
AND ALERTS YOU.
668
00:27:39,506 --> 00:27:43,509
WARNS YOU ABOUT INCOMING
CROSS-TRAFFIC.
669
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:45,742
CAMERAS AND RADAR DETECT
DANGERS YOU DON'T.
670
00:27:45,744 --> 00:27:47,638
AND IT CAN EVEN STOP
BY ITSELF.
671
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,836
SO IN THIS CRASH TEST, ONE
THING'S MISSING:
672
00:27:49,838 --> 00:27:50,887
A CRASH.
673
00:27:50,889 --> 00:27:52,675
THE 2016 E-CLASS.
674
00:27:52,677 --> 00:27:53,79
LEASE THE E350 FOR $499
A MONTH AT YOUR LOCAL
675
00:27:53,81 --> 00:27:56,651
MERCEDES-BENZ DEALER.
676
00:27:56,653 --> 00:28:10,200
AND IN THE FALL, THERE WILL BE
A SPLASHY NEW TV VERSION
677
00:28:10,202 --> 00:28:12,922
OF "THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW".
678
00:28:12,924 --> 00:28:16,386
BOTH OF THESE PRODUCTIONS HAVE
SOMETHING IN COMMON.
679
00:28:16,388 --> 00:28:19,570
THEY FEATURE THE FIRST TRANSGENDER
ACTRESS
680
00:28:19,572 --> 00:28:23,364
EVER TO BE ON THE BRINK OF SUPERSTARDOM.
681
00:28:23,366 --> 00:28:25,99
LAVERNE COX HAS A UNIQUE AMERICAN
SUCCESS STORY--
682
00:28:25,101 --> 00:28:26,435
ONE THAT TRANSCENDS TRANSGENDER.
683
00:28:26,437 --> 00:28:26,277
¶
684
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:27,774
WHEN YOU'RE A SIX-FOOT-TWO
AFRICAN-AMERICAN TRANS WOMAN,
685
00:28:27,776 --> 00:28:29,133
YOU GET CALLED A LOT
OF THINGS--
686
00:28:29,135 --> 00:28:31,64
GLAMOROUS...
687
00:28:31,66 --> 00:28:32,197
SEXY...
688
00:28:32,199 --> 00:28:33,364
BEAUTIFUL.
689
00:28:33,366 --> 00:28:34,735
DO YOU EVER GET TIRED OF BEING
CALLED BEAUTIFUL?
690
00:28:34,737 --> 00:28:37,291
NO. IT'S LOVELY TO HEAR.
691
00:28:37,293 --> 00:28:37,712
I DIDN'T GROW UP FEELING BEAUTIFUL,
692
00:28:37,714 --> 00:28:39,656
SO IT'S KIND OF NICE.
693
00:28:39,658 --> 00:28:42,509
BUT WHAT MADE HER THE FIRST
TRANSGENDER TV STAR
694
00:28:42,511 --> 00:28:47,423
IS HER BREAKOUT ROLE AS SOPHIA
ON "ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK".
695
00:28:47,425 --> 00:28:50,811
I'M HERE... BECAUSE I REALIZED
YOU MIGHT BE MY ONLY FRIEND.
696
00:28:50,813 --> 00:28:51,651
ONE OF THE MODELS FOR
HER CHARACTER SOPHIA
697
00:28:51,653 --> 00:28:54,421
IS CECE MCDONALD, A TRANSGENDER
WOMAN
698
00:28:54,422 --> 00:28:55,889
WHO WAS IMPRISONED FOR
MANSLAUGHTER
699
00:28:55,890 --> 00:28:58,859
AFTER DEFENDING HERSELF
FROM AN ATTACK.
700
00:28:58,860 --> 00:29:00,193
LAVERNE IS THE EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER
701
00:29:00,195 --> 00:29:02,796
OF AN UPCOMING DOCUMENTARY
ABOUT MCDONALD
702
00:29:02,797 --> 00:29:12,538
CALLED "FREE CECE".
703
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:16,361
AND SHE MAY WELL BE ON HER WAY
TO BECOMING A TRANS ICON.
704
00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:19,262
SHE'S TAKING ON THE ROLE
MADE FAMOUS BY TIM CURRY
705
00:29:19,264 --> 00:29:20,570
IN A REMAKE OF "THE ROCKY
HORROR PICTURE SHOW".
706
00:29:20,572 --> 00:29:22,476
¶ WHOO, OOH, OOH...
707
00:29:22,478 --> 00:29:24,712
¶ SHAKE MAKES ME WANNA TAKE...
708
00:29:24,714 --> 00:29:22,891
SO YOU GREW UP IN MOBILE, ALABAMA--
709
00:29:22,893 --> 00:29:23,451
YES. --WITH A SINGLE MOTHER
710
00:29:23,453 --> 00:29:27,990
AND AN IDENTICAL TWIN BROTHER.
YES.
711
00:29:27,992 --> 00:29:30,231
I READ THAT YOU SAID YOU DID NOT
SEE A DIFFERENCE,
712
00:29:30,233 --> 00:29:29,897
YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
WAS A DIFFERENCE
713
00:29:29,899 --> 00:29:32,248
BETWEEN A BOY AND A GIRL.
714
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:34,283
NO... WHICH IS SO FASCINATING...
715
00:29:34,285 --> 00:29:35,346
EVERYONE WAS TELLING ME THAT I
WAS A BOY,
716
00:29:35,348 --> 00:29:35,954
BUT I KNEW THAT I WAS A GIRL.
717
00:29:35,956 --> 00:29:39,207
I IDENTIFIED WITH THINGS THAT WERE...
718
00:29:39,209 --> 00:29:39,298
I JUST FELT LIKE I WAS A GIRL.
719
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:44,406
MY THIRD-GRADE TEACHER, ACTUALLY,
MISS RIDGEWAY,
720
00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:45,605
CALLED MY MOTHER ON THE PHONE AND
SAID,
721
00:29:45,607 --> 00:29:48,428
"YOUR SON IS GOING TO END UP IN
NEW ORLEANS WEARING A DRESS
722
00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:51,562
IF WE DON'T GET HIM INTO THERAPY
RIGHT AWAY."
723
00:29:51,564 --> 00:29:53,503
WHAT DID THE THERAPY CONSIST OF?
724
00:29:53,505 --> 00:29:55,748
THE WHOLE IDEA WAS THAT WE MUST
"FIX" ME.
725
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:55,496
THAT, THAT I WAS... THAT THERE
WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME...
726
00:29:55,498 --> 00:29:56,384
THE THERAPIST TALKED TO MY MOTHER
727
00:29:56,385 --> 00:29:57,371
ABOUT INJECTING ME WITH TESTOSTERONE,
728
00:29:57,373 --> 00:29:58,352
TO MAKE ME MORE MASCULINE.
729
00:29:58,354 --> 00:30:00,119
SO, LUCKILY FOR ME, A RED FLAG
WENT UP FOR MY MOTHER;
730
00:30:00,121 --> 00:30:01,722
SOMETHING DIDN'T SEEM QUITE RIGHT
TO HER
731
00:30:01,723 --> 00:30:04,90
ABOUT INJECTING HER THIRD-GRADER
WITH TESTOSTERONE
732
00:30:04,92 --> 00:30:05,458
TO MAKE THEM MORE MASCULINE,
733
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:06,827
SO WE DISCONTINUED THE THERAPY.
734
00:30:06,828 --> 00:30:07,961
AND WHEN YOU WERE 11...
735
00:30:07,963 --> 00:30:08,962
MM-HMM.
736
00:30:08,963 --> 00:30:10,30
...YOU TOOK A BOTTLE OF PILLS.
737
00:30:10,31 --> 00:30:12,98
YEAH. WHY?
738
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:13,766
OH...
739
00:30:13,768 --> 00:30:14,868
(LAUGHS)
740
00:30:14,869 --> 00:30:16,203
I DIDN'T THINK WE'D BE GOING THERE...
741
00:30:16,204 --> 00:30:17,203
OH, SORRY.
742
00:30:17,205 --> 00:30:20,774
UM...
743
00:30:20,776 --> 00:30:24,610
41% OF ALL TRANSGENDER PEOPLE REPORT
HAVING ATTEMPTED SUICIDE,
744
00:30:24,612 --> 00:30:26,446
AND WHEN I WAS 11, I DID AS WELL.
745
00:30:26,447 --> 00:30:32,270
WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS THAT, AS PUBERTY
STARTED,
746
00:30:32,271 --> 00:30:35,22
I ALSO... IN ADDITION TO BEING
VERY FEMININE,
747
00:30:35,24 --> 00:30:36,263
I REALIZED I WAS ATTRACTED TO BOYS.
748
00:30:36,265 --> 00:30:37,988
AND, UM, I LEARNED IN CHURCH THAT
THIS WAS A SIN.
749
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:38,370
AND THEN MY GRANDMOTHER,
750
00:30:38,372 --> 00:30:39,954
HAD ALSO PASSED AWAY WHEN I WAS
IN SIXTH GRADE.
751
00:30:39,956 --> 00:30:40,302
SHE WAS AN AMAZING WOMAN.
752
00:30:40,303 --> 00:30:41,963
SHE WAS A DOMESTIC WORKER.
753
00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:44,584
SHE WORKED IN THE, UM, HOMES OF
WHITE FOLKS
754
00:30:44,586 --> 00:30:45,961
IN THE SEGREGATED SOUTH, COOKING
AND CLEANING,
755
00:30:45,963 --> 00:30:48,902
AND SHE WAS THIS DIGNIFIED WOMAN.
756
00:30:48,904 --> 00:30:49,635
AND SO I THOUGHT SHE WAS UP IN
HEAVEN
757
00:30:49,637 --> 00:30:50,428
LOOKING DOWN ON ME,
758
00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:52,139
AND I IMAGINED SHE WAS EXTREMELY
DISAPPOINTED
759
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:54,6
THAT I WAS HAVING THESE THOUGHTS
ABOUT BOYS...
760
00:30:54,8 --> 00:30:57,411
AND THE IDEA OF DISAPPOINTING HER
MADE ME NOT TO WANT TO LIVE.
761
00:30:57,412 --> 00:30:59,412
AND SO I WENT TO A MEDICINE CABINET
762
00:30:59,414 --> 00:31:02,348
AND, UM, TOOK A BOTTLE OF PILLS
AND SWALLOWED THEM.
763
00:31:02,350 --> 00:31:05,751
AND I WENT TO SLEEP, HOPING NOT
TO WAKE UP.
764
00:31:05,753 --> 00:31:10,479
DID YOU EVER WORRY THAT YOUR MOM
DIDN'T LOVE YOU?
765
00:31:10,481 --> 00:31:13,859
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, UM...
766
00:31:13,860 --> 00:31:14,527
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WORRIED ABOUT.
767
00:31:14,529 --> 00:31:18,98
I, UM... MEGYN... (LAUGHS)
768
00:31:18,99 --> 00:31:22,202
UM, YEAH, UM, THAT WAS... THAT'S
THE ONLY...
769
00:31:22,203 --> 00:31:23,803
THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER WANTED,
770
00:31:23,805 --> 00:31:25,505
IS FOR MY MOTHER TO LOVE ME...
771
00:31:25,506 --> 00:31:27,907
AND WHEN I WAS BEING SENT TO A
THERAPIST...
772
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:29,875
IT FELT AS IF THAT SHE, SHE MIGHT
NOT...
773
00:31:29,877 --> 00:31:31,311
SO WHEN YOU TOLD YOUR MOTHER
774
00:31:31,312 --> 00:31:33,246
THAT YOU IDENTIFIED AS FEMALE,
WHAT WAS HER REACTION?
775
00:31:33,248 --> 00:31:35,82
I CALLED MY MOM AND TOLD HER,
776
00:31:35,83 --> 00:31:36,949
"I'M, I'M A, I'M A GIRL, AND I...
777
00:31:36,951 --> 00:31:38,452
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH ME
MY WHOLE LIFE."
778
00:31:38,453 --> 00:31:39,619
THE FIRST THING MY MOTHER SAID
WAS,
779
00:31:39,621 --> 00:31:41,20
"BUT YOU HAVE SUCH BIG HANDS AND
FEET."
780
00:31:41,22 --> 00:31:43,670
YOU WOULD THINK, IF SHE WAS GONNA
OBJECT TO A BODY PART,
781
00:31:43,671 --> 00:31:44,937
SHE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN SOMETHING
OTHER
782
00:31:44,939 --> 00:31:46,307
(LAUGHING) THAN THE HANDS AND THE
FEET.
783
00:31:46,309 --> 00:31:48,762
BUT I THINK HER WHOLE THING WAS
LIKE,
784
00:31:48,764 --> 00:31:58,944
"YOU'LL NEVER PULL THIS OFF."
785
00:31:58,946 --> 00:32:00,629
I MEAN, THAT WAS-- FOR ME--
786
00:32:00,630 --> 00:32:01,285
IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD HER IMPLICATION
WAS:
787
00:32:01,287 --> 00:32:02,150
"YOU'LL NEVER PULL THIS OFF."
788
00:32:02,152 --> 00:32:03,275
UM, AND IT WAS HARD FOR MANY YEARS,
789
00:32:03,277 --> 00:32:06,445
AND WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS
AND ARGUMENTS.
790
00:32:06,447 --> 00:32:04,791
UM, BUT WE'RE IN A REALLY GREAT
PLACE NOW,
791
00:32:04,793 --> 00:32:05,978
WHERE SHE ACCEPTS ME AS HER DAUGHTER.
792
00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:09,215
THIS IS MY MOTHER.
793
00:32:09,217 --> 00:32:08,971
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
794
00:32:08,973 --> 00:32:09,935
YOU HAVE AN IDENTICAL TWIN BROTHER.
795
00:32:09,937 --> 00:32:10,916
YES.
796
00:32:10,918 --> 00:32:12,619
TELL US ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP.
797
00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:15,288
HE'S JUST... HE'S MY EVERYTHING.
798
00:32:15,290 --> 00:32:17,124
I... HE'S MY BROTHER, UM...
799
00:32:17,125 --> 00:32:20,894
HER NOT-SO-IDENTICAL-AND-MORE
TWIN BROTHER, M LAMAR,
800
00:32:20,895 --> 00:32:24,297
PLAYS HER CHARACTER SOPHIA,
PRE-TRANSITION
801
00:32:24,299 --> 00:32:25,832
ON "ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK".
802
00:32:25,833 --> 00:32:27,199
WHAT'S WONDERFUL ABOUT HAVING A
TWIN BROTHER
803
00:32:27,201 --> 00:32:29,36
IS THAT HE'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE
WOMB,
804
00:32:29,37 --> 00:32:31,537
AND SO HE'S LIKE, "YOU'RE THE SAME
PERSON YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN.
805
00:32:31,539 --> 00:32:34,173
THE SHELL HAS CHANGED, BUT YOU'VE
ALWAYS BEEN THIS PERSON."
806
00:32:34,175 --> 00:32:36,243
LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT ROMANCE.
807
00:32:36,244 --> 00:32:37,276
(BOTH LAUGHING)
808
00:32:37,278 --> 00:32:38,511
OH, REALLY?
809
00:32:38,513 --> 00:32:39,880
CAN WE TALK ABOUT YOUR ROMANTIC
LIFE, MEGYN?
810
00:32:39,881 --> 00:32:40,880
LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU.
811
00:32:40,882 --> 00:32:42,249
UH-HUH. ARE YOU DATING ANYONE?
812
00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:45,885
I DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT WHO I'M
DATING, MEGYN.
813
00:32:45,887 --> 00:32:47,821
OH, COME ON, GIVE US A LITTLE SOMETHING.
814
00:32:47,822 --> 00:32:51,767
DATING AS A TRANS WOMAN IS REALLY
HARD.
815
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:53,693
IT'S BEEN... I FEEL REALLY LUCKY
RIGHT NOW
816
00:32:53,695 --> 00:32:55,421
AT THIS STAGE OF MY LIFE THAT,
UM...
817
00:32:55,423 --> 00:32:56,562
THINGS ARE GOOD ON THAT FRONT.
818
00:32:56,564 --> 00:32:58,205
WHAT KIND OF MEN DO YOU LIKE?
819
00:32:58,207 --> 00:33:00,588
(LAUGHING) WHAT KIND OF MEN DO
YOU DATE?
820
00:33:00,590 --> 00:33:04,438
A GUY WHO'S KIND OF CREATIVE, I'VE
FOUND,
821
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,786
IS, UM, BETTER FOR ME.
822
00:33:07,788 --> 00:33:08,717
LOOKS ARE IMPORTANT.
823
00:33:08,718 --> 00:33:10,448
I LIKE TO... I LOVE, UM, WAKING
UP IN THE MORNING
824
00:33:10,450 --> 00:33:12,3
AND SEEING A BEAUTIFUL MAN NEXT
TO ME.
825
00:33:12,5 --> 00:33:13,832
THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE BEST THINGS
IN THE WORLD. AMEN.
826
00:33:13,833 --> 00:33:18,777
(BOTH LAUGHING)
827
00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:32,16
SO I ENJOY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING OVER
AND SEEING A BEAUTIFUL MAN.
828
00:33:32,18 --> 00:33:34,719
NOW, IF YOU COULD GO BACK AND WAVE
A MAGIC WAND...
829
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:38,170
MM-HMM. ...AND HAVE BEEN BORN WITH
A FEMALE BODY,
830
00:33:38,172 --> 00:33:38,933
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU DO THAT?
831
00:33:38,935 --> 00:33:40,436
I WOULDN'T; I WOULDN'T.
832
00:33:40,437 --> 00:33:45,673
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE...
I THINK...
833
00:33:45,675 --> 00:33:47,541
I NOW BELIEVE THAT BEING TRANSGENDER
IS BEAUTIFUL.
834
00:33:47,543 --> 00:33:49,994
DO YOU FEEL THAT...
835
00:33:49,996 --> 00:33:51,928
MAKING THE TRANSITION SOLVED A
LOT OF YOUR PROBLEMS
836
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:52,231
OR CREATED NEW ONES?
837
00:33:52,233 --> 00:33:57,840
BEING... BEING A BLACK TRANSGENDER
WOMAN IN AMERICA
838
00:33:57,842 --> 00:34:00,88
IS REALLY HARD. IT'S BEEN REALLY
HARD FOR ME.
839
00:34:00,90 --> 00:34:02,265
BUT FOR ME, LIVING A LIE WAS MUCH
WORSE.
840
00:34:02,267 --> 00:34:02,363
I NEED TO BE IN MY TRUTH.
841
00:34:02,365 --> 00:34:03,512
UM... AND I'VE BEEN VERY, VERY
LUCKY
842
00:34:03,514 --> 00:34:03,25
AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LIVE MY DREAMS,
843
00:34:03,26 --> 00:34:05,129
AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE
THE RIGHT
844
00:34:05,131 --> 00:34:05,161
TO LIVE THEIR DREAMS.
845
00:34:05,163 --> 00:34:06,665
THIS IS AMERICA. (LAUGHS)
846
00:34:06,667 --> 00:34:09,105
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ALL HAVE THAT
RIGHT.
847
00:34:09,107 --> 00:34:17,888
TO ACTUALLY PUT YOUR HAND IN A
GLOVE
848
00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:18,966
THAT MAY HAVE TAKEN TWO LIVES--
I CAN'T IMAGINE.
849
00:34:18,968 --> 00:34:20,379
AS YOU SAY IT NOW, IT IS CHILLING.
850
00:34:20,381 --> 00:34:22,61
YOU'VE ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH A
LOT
851
00:34:22,63 --> 00:34:22,876
IN RECENT YEARS.
852
00:34:22,878 --> 00:34:25,694
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WAS YOUR DARKEST
MOMENT?
853
00:34:25,696 --> 00:34:26,941
¶
854
00:34:26,943 --> 00:35:10,368
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WAS YOUR DARKEST
MOMENT?
855
00:35:10,370 --> 00:35:15,101
WHEN THEY THOUGHT THEY SHOULD WESTART
SAVING FOR RETIREMENT.LE
856
00:35:15,103 --> 00:35:16,403
THEN WE ASKED SOME OLDER PEOPLE
857
00:35:16,405 --> 00:35:19,506
WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DID START SAVING.
858
00:35:19,508 --> 00:35:21,975
THIS GAP BETWEEN WHEN WE SHOULD
START SAVING
859
00:35:21,977 --> 00:35:24,343
AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO IS ONE
OF THE REASONS
860
00:35:24,345 --> 00:35:27,480
WHY TOO MANY OF US AREN'T PREPARED
FOR RETIREMENT.
861
00:35:27,482 --> 00:35:29,448
JUST START AS EARLY AS YOU CAN.
862
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:30,916
IT'S GOING TO PAY OFF IN THE FUTURE.
863
00:35:30,918 --> 00:35:33,419
IF WE ALL START SAVING A LITTLE
MORE TODAY,
864
00:35:33,421 --> 00:35:37,189
WE'LL ALL BE BETTER PREPARED TOMORROW.
865
00:35:37,191 --> 00:35:39,325
PRUDENTIAL. BRING YOUR CHALLENGES.
866
00:35:39,327 --> 00:37:28,968
[ BOSS ] IT IS A VERY SMART
PLAN. SO WE'RE ALL ON BOARD?
867
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:31,470
[ PAUL ] NO. THIS IS A STUPID PLAN.
868
00:37:31,472 --> 00:37:33,772
HATE DRAMA? GO TO CARS.COM.
869
00:37:33,774 --> 00:37:35,908
RESEARCH. PRICE. FIND.
870
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:38,43
ONLY CARS.COM HELPS YOU
GET THE RIGHT CAR
871
00:37:38,45 --> 00:37:39,312
WITHOUT ALL THE DRAMA.
872
00:37:39,313 --> 00:38:00,65
I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL.
873
00:38:00,67 --> 00:38:01,367
AND LIKE THE REST OF AMERICA,
874
00:38:01,369 --> 00:38:03,969
I WATCHED THE TRIAL GAVEL TO GAVEL.
875
00:38:03,971 --> 00:38:06,239
WELL, THE SMASH SUCCESS OF THE
FX MINI-SERIES
876
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,241
"THE PEOPLE VS. O.J. SIMPSON: AMERICAN
CRIME STORY"
877
00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:12,579
HAS PROVEN ONCE AGAIN THAT EVERYONE
STILL LIKES TO TALK
878
00:38:12,581 --> 00:38:14,581
ABOUT THE TRIAL OF THE CENTURY.
879
00:38:14,583 --> 00:38:17,816
WELL, ALMOST EVERYONE.
880
00:38:17,818 --> 00:38:20,252
FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS, ROBERT SHAPIRO,
881
00:38:20,254 --> 00:38:22,455
O.J. SIMPSON'S FIRST DEFENSE ATTORNEY,
882
00:38:22,457 --> 00:38:25,225
HAS REMAINED SILENT... UNTIL NOW.
883
00:38:25,227 --> 00:38:26,760
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
884
00:38:26,761 --> 00:38:27,826
WHY DO YOU THINK THE STORY
885
00:38:27,828 --> 00:38:29,829
STILL BRINGS OUT SO MUCH PASSION?
886
00:38:29,831 --> 00:38:32,999
I THINK BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE,
887
00:38:33,0 --> 00:38:37,70
SIMPSON HIMSELF, GREAT ALL-AMERICAN
HERO,
888
00:38:37,72 --> 00:38:39,706
ONE OF THE GREATEST FOOTBALL PLAYERS
WHO EVER LIVED.
889
00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:42,375
FIRST TIME DNA WAS EVER USED IN
A TRIAL,
890
00:38:42,376 --> 00:38:43,909
UH, OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE,
891
00:38:43,911 --> 00:38:47,312
VERY INTERESTING LAWYERS ON BOTH
SIDES,
892
00:38:47,314 --> 00:38:51,750
AND A HORRIBLE, DEVASTATING LOSS
TO, TO TWO FAMILIES.
893
00:38:51,752 --> 00:38:54,687
(MAN) MR. SIMPSON IS A WANTED MURDER
SUSPECT,
894
00:38:54,689 --> 00:38:56,122
TWO COUNTS OF MURDER.
895
00:38:56,124 --> 00:38:57,757
(KELLY) WHEN O.J. SIMPSON
WAS FIRST ARRESTED
896
00:38:57,759 --> 00:39:00,793
FOR KILLING HIS WIFE NICOLE
AND HER FRIEND RON GOLDMAN,
897
00:39:00,795 --> 00:39:04,464
PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE THOUGHT
HE WOULD BE CONVICTED.
898
00:39:04,466 --> 00:39:06,633
NOT ATTORNEY ROBERT SHAPIRO.
899
00:39:06,635 --> 00:39:09,635
SHAPIRO WAS SO FAMOUS, HE'S
PORTRAYED BY JOHN TRAVOLTA
900
00:39:09,637 --> 00:39:13,173
IN THE FX SERIES "THE PEOPLE
VERSUS O.J. SIMPSON".
901
00:39:13,175 --> 00:39:14,974
SHAPIRO NOW SAYS THAT
A LOT
902
00:39:14,976 --> 00:39:18,210
OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW
ABOUT THE TRIAL IS WRONG.
903
00:39:18,212 --> 00:39:21,13
FIRST: SHAPIRO SAYS HE
OUTMANEUVERED MARCIA CLARK
904
00:39:21,15 --> 00:39:23,949
BY MAKING HER BELIEVE HE
WASN'T READY.
905
00:39:23,951 --> 00:39:27,386
THE JUDGE ASKED "MR. SHAPIRO, WHAT'S
YOUR POSITION?"
906
00:39:27,388 --> 00:39:29,855
"YOUR HONOR, WE'RE READY FOR TRIAL."
907
00:39:29,857 --> 00:39:33,959
LOOKS AT MARCIA CLARK AND SAYS,
"CALL YOUR FIRST WITNESS."
908
00:39:33,961 --> 00:39:36,795
AND YOU COULD SEE THE BLOOD COME
OUT OF HER FACE,
909
00:39:36,797 --> 00:39:39,933
AND FROM THAT DAY ON, I KNEW, THERE
WOULD BE NO CONVICTION.
910
00:39:39,935 --> 00:39:42,268
THESE ARE NOT EFFICIENT MURDERS.
911
00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:45,337
THESE ARE MURDERS THAT ARE REALLY
SLAUGHTERS.
912
00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:47,373
SECOND: SHAPIRO BELIEVES
THE PROSECUTION
913
00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:50,9
DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE
EVIDENCE.
914
00:39:50,10 --> 00:39:52,44
DID THE DREAM TEAM WIN THAT CASE,
915
00:39:52,46 --> 00:39:54,146
OR DID THE PROSECUTION LOSE IT?
916
00:39:54,148 --> 00:39:55,814
I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
917
00:39:55,816 --> 00:39:58,852
THE PROSECUTION WEDDED THEMSELVES
918
00:39:58,854 --> 00:40:04,424
TO "ONE KNIFE, ONE KILLER" THEORY.
919
00:40:04,426 --> 00:40:05,958
I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR
920
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,197
THAT IT WAS WITHIN REASONABLE MEDICAL
PROBABILITY
921
00:40:11,198 --> 00:40:13,532
THAT MORE THAN ONE KNIFE WAS USED.
922
00:40:13,534 --> 00:40:16,402
THERE IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY
923
00:40:16,404 --> 00:40:18,404
THAT MORE THAN ONE PERSON WAS INVOLVED.
924
00:40:18,406 --> 00:40:19,438
AND YOU BELIEVE
925
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,306
THE KILLER OF NICOLE BROWN SIMPSON
926
00:40:21,308 --> 00:40:22,976
AND RON GOLDMAN
927
00:40:22,978 --> 00:40:24,843
HAS NEVER FACED TRIAL?
928
00:40:24,845 --> 00:40:26,645
I THINK THERE'S A STRONG POSSIBILITY
929
00:40:26,647 --> 00:40:27,881
THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
930
00:40:27,883 --> 00:40:30,717
IF IT DOESN'T FIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT.
931
00:40:30,718 --> 00:40:34,788
AND FINALLY: SHAPIRO HAD A PLAN
FOR THAT BLOODY GLOVE.
932
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:36,221
I TRIED THE GLOVE ON.
933
00:40:36,223 --> 00:40:38,391
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT WIDE IN MY
PALM
934
00:40:38,393 --> 00:40:40,760
AND A LITTLE BIT LONG IN MY FINGERS.
935
00:40:40,761 --> 00:40:44,297
O.J. SIMPSON HAS ENORMOUS HANDS
936
00:40:44,299 --> 00:40:47,666
AND I KNEW THAT THAT GLOVE WOULD
NOT FIT HIM.
937
00:40:47,668 --> 00:40:48,902
REALLY?
938
00:40:48,904 --> 00:40:50,202
WOULDN'T EVEN BE CLOSE.
939
00:40:50,204 --> 00:40:51,538
DID YOU FEEL IN THAT MOMENT,
940
00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:53,540
WHEN YOU PUT YOUR HAND IN THE GLOVE,
941
00:40:53,541 --> 00:40:55,574
THAT YOU WERE TRYING ON THE GLOVE
OF THE PERSON
942
00:40:55,576 --> 00:40:57,277
WHO MURDERED THESE TWO PEOPLE?
943
00:40:57,279 --> 00:40:59,178
AS YOU SAY IT NOW, IT IS CHILLING.
944
00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:02,81
BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR ONE THING
AND ONE THING ONLY:
945
00:41:02,83 --> 00:41:03,649
THE SIZE OF THAT GLOVE.
946
00:41:03,651 --> 00:41:05,985
SO, WHEN O.J. SIMPSON WAS ASKED
947
00:41:05,987 --> 00:41:08,154
TO TRY ON THAT GLOVE IN THAT COURTROOM,
948
00:41:08,156 --> 00:41:09,489
DID YOU REALIZE
949
00:41:09,490 --> 00:41:11,690
IT WAS A CRITICAL MISTAKE BY THE
PROSECUTION?
950
00:41:11,692 --> 00:41:13,826
HERE'S WHAT I TOLD O.J. SIMPSON:
951
00:41:13,828 --> 00:41:18,298
"I WANT YOU TO WALK AS CLOSE TO
THE JURY AS YOU CAN,
952
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:21,601
"HOLD UP YOUR HAND LIKE YOU'RE
HOLDING THE OLYMPIC TORCH
953
00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:25,705
AND PULL AND TUG ON THAT GLOVE,
BECAUSE IT WILL NOT FIT."
954
00:41:25,707 --> 00:41:27,40
AND CLEARLY IT DIDN'T.
955
00:41:27,41 --> 00:41:29,708
(WOMAN) WE THE JURY IN THE ABOVE-ENTITLED
ACTION
956
00:41:29,710 --> 00:41:31,710
FIND THE DEFENDANT, ORENTHAL JAMES
SIMPSON,
957
00:41:31,712 --> 00:41:33,413
NOT GUILTY OF THE CRIME OF MURDER.
958
00:41:33,415 --> 00:41:36,982
(CROWD CHEERING)
959
00:41:36,984 --> 00:41:40,252
MOMENTS AFTER THE VERDICT, O.J.
SIMPSON LEANED OVER
960
00:41:40,254 --> 00:41:42,956
AND WHISPERED SOMETHING IN YOUR
EAR.
961
00:41:42,958 --> 00:41:44,523
WHAT DID HE SAY?
962
00:41:44,525 --> 00:41:50,496
"YOU HAD TOLD ME THIS WOULD BE
THE RESULT FROM THE BEGINNING.
963
00:41:50,498 --> 00:41:52,97
YOU WERE RIGHT."
964
00:41:52,99 --> 00:41:54,199
HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU SAW O.J.
965
00:41:54,201 --> 00:41:56,436
LAUGHING AND POSING FOR PICTURES
966
00:41:56,437 --> 00:41:57,737
SHORTLY AFTER THE VERDICT?
967
00:41:57,739 --> 00:41:59,205
I THOUGHT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE.
968
00:41:59,207 --> 00:42:03,676
TWO PEOPLE WERE DEAD AND THERE
SHOULD STILL BE SOME RESPECT,
969
00:42:03,677 --> 00:42:05,912
CERTAINLY FOR YOUR EX-WIFE.
970
00:42:05,914 --> 00:42:07,145
NOW, WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED
971
00:42:07,147 --> 00:42:10,282
FOR ARMED ROBBERY AND KIDNAPPING,
YEARS LATER,
972
00:42:10,284 --> 00:42:11,384
DID HE CALL YOU?
973
00:42:11,385 --> 00:42:13,719
NO. WHY NOT? DO YOU KNOW?
974
00:42:13,721 --> 00:42:15,187
UP TO HIM.
975
00:42:15,189 --> 00:42:17,189
I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THE CASE,
IN ANY EVENT.
976
00:42:17,191 --> 00:42:18,190
WHY?
977
00:42:18,192 --> 00:42:19,191
HE STILL OWED ME MONEY
978
00:42:19,193 --> 00:42:20,193
FROM THE FIRST ONE.
979
00:42:20,195 --> 00:42:21,793
REALLY?
980
00:42:21,795 --> 00:42:23,295
AFTER THE VERDICT,
981
00:42:23,297 --> 00:42:26,132
SHAPIRO WENT ON TO CREATE
THE POPULAR WEBSITE LEGALZOOM,
982
00:42:26,134 --> 00:42:29,769
FAST-FOOD-LIKE LEGAL ADVICE,
QUICK AND AFFORDABLE.
983
00:42:29,770 --> 00:42:31,604
WE PUT THE LAW ON YOUR SIDE.
984
00:42:31,605 --> 00:42:35,708
BUT IN 2005, SHAPIRO'S LIFE
WENT INTO A TAILSPIN
985
00:42:35,709 --> 00:42:41,179
WHEN HIS 24-YEAR-OLD SON BRENT
DIED FROM A DRUG OVERDOSE.
986
00:42:41,181 --> 00:42:43,148
WHEN YOU WENT TO THE HOSPITAL THAT
MORNING,
987
00:42:43,150 --> 00:42:44,583
DID THEY LET YOU SEE HIM?
988
00:42:44,585 --> 00:42:57,530
THE MOST DIFFICULT THING THAT A
PARENT WILL EVER ENDURE
989
00:42:57,531 --> 00:43:01,0
IS SEEING A CHILD ON LIFE SUPPORT
990
00:43:01,1 --> 00:43:03,835
WITH THEIR EYES TAPED CLOSED
991
00:43:03,837 --> 00:43:07,206
AND STANDING NEXT TO HIS MOTHER
992
00:43:07,208 --> 00:43:10,810
AND KNOWING THAT YOU'LL NEVER SEE
HIM AGAIN.
993
00:43:10,812 --> 00:43:12,711
THE SHAPIRO FAMILY CHANNELED
THEIR GRIEF
994
00:43:12,713 --> 00:43:14,980
INTO THE BRENT SHAPIRO
FOUNDATION,
995
00:43:14,982 --> 00:43:17,449
WHICH LOBBIED HARD FOR
A GOOD SAMARITAN LAW
996
00:43:17,451 --> 00:43:19,785
THAT SAYS ANYONE CAN
REPORT A DRUG OVERDOSE
997
00:43:19,787 --> 00:43:23,55
WITHOUT FEAR OF GETTING
INTO TROUBLE THEMSELVES.
998
00:43:23,57 --> 00:43:25,558
HE WANTS THIS TO BE HIS
LEGACY,
999
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,662
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT
PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER HIM FOR.
1000
00:43:29,664 --> 00:43:32,332
WHAT'S THE TAKEAWAY FROM THE TRIAL
OF THE CENTURY?
1001
00:43:32,333 --> 00:43:35,768
THERE'S MORAL JUSTICE AND THERE'S
LEGAL JUSTICE.
1002
00:43:35,770 --> 00:43:40,6
AND WHEN THAT NOT-GUILTY VERDICT,
UH, WAS RENDERED,
1003
00:43:40,8 --> 00:43:42,908
I FELT LEGAL JUSTICE WAS DONE.
1004
00:43:42,910 --> 00:43:45,344
AS FAR AS MORAL JUSTICE,
1005
00:43:45,346 --> 00:43:48,847
I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT WITH ANYONE,
INCLUDING MY WIFE.
1006
00:43:48,849 --> 00:43:51,351
I ASSUME YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING
1007
00:43:51,353 --> 00:43:53,52
THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
1008
00:43:53,53 --> 00:43:55,53
OH, IS THERE AN ELECTION GOING
ON?
1009
00:43:55,55 --> 00:43:57,790
PLUS, MORE OF MY INTERVIEW
WITH DONALD TRUMP.
1010
00:43:57,791 --> 00:43:58,891
LET'S HAVE SOME FUN.
1011
00:43:58,893 --> 00:43:59,926
GO AHEAD. OKAY.
1012
00:43:59,927 --> 00:44:01,660
¶
1013
00:44:01,662 --> 00:47:18,891
EVEN THOUGH HIS FATHER TURNS 100
THIS YEAR,
1014
00:47:18,893 --> 00:47:22,160
NO ONE IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED
ABOUT KIRK DOUGLAS'S HEALTH.
1015
00:47:22,162 --> 00:47:24,763
MICHAEL DOUGLAS, ON THE
OTHER HAND, CAN'T SNEEZE
1016
00:47:24,765 --> 00:47:26,632
WITHOUT SOMEONE WRITING AN OBIT.
1017
00:47:26,634 --> 00:47:28,33
IN A WAY, IT'S A COMPLIMENT.
1018
00:47:28,35 --> 00:47:29,468
YOU KNOW YOU'RE STILL RELEVANT
1019
00:47:29,469 --> 00:47:32,837
WHEN THE TABLOIDS HAVEN'T LEFT
YOU ALONE... FOR HALF A CENTURY.
1020
00:47:32,839 --> 00:47:35,641
SO, I READ IN THE TABLOIDS A FEW
WEEKS AGO
1021
00:47:35,643 --> 00:47:37,476
THAT YOU ONLY HAD THREE MONTHS
TO LIVE.
1022
00:47:37,478 --> 00:47:38,978
TELL ME THAT IS NOT TRUE.
1023
00:47:38,979 --> 00:47:41,313
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THESE TABLOIDS
1024
00:47:41,315 --> 00:47:43,382
IS THEY ACTUALLY CALL YOU TO CHECK.
1025
00:47:43,384 --> 00:47:45,483
THEY SAY, "WE JUST KNOW WE'RE GOING
WITH A STORY."
1026
00:47:45,485 --> 00:47:46,885
AND THE STORY CAME OUT,
1027
00:47:46,887 --> 00:47:48,687
AND PEOPLE WERE CALLING ME SAYING
"HI, HOW YOU DOING?"
1028
00:47:48,689 --> 00:47:50,55
I SAID, "GOOD." THEY SAID, "YOU
OKAY?"
1029
00:47:50,57 --> 00:47:52,258
I SAID, "YEAH, I'M OKAY."
1030
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:53,491
WELL, I WAS THINKING
1031
00:47:53,493 --> 00:47:54,727
WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU HAD THREE
MONTHS TO LIVE
1032
00:47:54,729 --> 00:47:56,395
AND YOU WERE SITTING FOR THIS INTERVIEW
FOR ME
1033
00:47:56,396 --> 00:47:58,197
THAT MAYBE I WAS ON YOUR BUCKET
LIST.
1034
00:47:58,198 --> 00:47:59,764
(LAUGHS) I'M HONORED!
1035
00:47:59,766 --> 00:48:01,467
TICK-TOCK. (LAUGHS)
1036
00:48:01,468 --> 00:48:04,403
MICHAEL DOUGLAS HAS LIVED
A BIG LIFE--
1037
00:48:04,405 --> 00:48:07,873
THE SON OF A MOVIE LEGEND
WHO BECAME A MOVIE LEGEND.
1038
00:48:07,875 --> 00:48:09,809
A TYPE A PERSONALITY,
1039
00:48:09,811 --> 00:48:12,10
HE WAS ALWAYS THE COOLEST
GUY IN THE ROOM...
1040
00:48:12,12 --> 00:48:13,345
AND A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS.
1041
00:48:13,347 --> 00:48:15,480
AND I MEAN THAT IN A GOOD WAY.
1042
00:48:15,482 --> 00:48:17,550
FOR 71 YEARS, MICHAEL DOUGLAS
1043
00:48:17,552 --> 00:48:20,85
HAS HAD ASTONISHING GOOD
FORTUNE
1044
00:48:20,87 --> 00:48:22,121
MIXED WITH SOME VERY BAD LUCK.
1045
00:48:22,123 --> 00:48:23,855
IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN EASY
TO WATCH...
1046
00:48:23,857 --> 00:48:26,358
YEAH, I GOT CANCER.
1047
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,394
SO, UM, I'VE GOT CANCER.
1048
00:48:28,395 --> 00:48:32,864
I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT THREE WEEKS
AGO.
1049
00:48:32,866 --> 00:48:34,300
STAGE FOUR ORAL CANCER
1050
00:48:34,302 --> 00:48:36,468
HAS A WAY OF GETTING YOUR
ATTENTION, TRUE.
1051
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:40,39
BUT THINGS ARE SLOWLY TURNING
AROUND FOR MICHAEL.
1052
00:48:40,41 --> 00:48:41,940
HIS SON CAMERON, AFTER
BEING IN PRISON
1053
00:48:41,942 --> 00:48:44,443
FOR SEVEN LONG YEARS ON
DRUG CHARGES,
1054
00:48:44,445 --> 00:48:47,246
IS DUE TO BE RELEASED NEXT
YEAR.
1055
00:48:47,248 --> 00:48:48,748
MARRIAGE TO CATHERINE
ZETA-JONES,
1056
00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:50,383
ONCE RUMORED TO BE ON
THE ROCKS,
1057
00:48:50,385 --> 00:48:53,486
SEEMS TO HAVE FOUND SOLID
GROUND.
1058
00:48:53,488 --> 00:48:56,989
AND TODAY, MICHAEL IS
CANCER-FREE.
1059
00:48:56,990 --> 00:49:00,25
YOU'VE ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH A
LOT IN RECENT YEARS.
1060
00:49:00,27 --> 00:49:03,195
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WAS YOUR DARKEST
MOMENT?
1061
00:49:03,197 --> 00:49:08,900
PROBABLY THE COMBINATION AROUND
THE TIME JUST BEFORE MY CANCER,
1062
00:49:08,902 --> 00:49:14,540
WAS MY OLDEST SON, CAMERON, WHO
IS 37 NOW,
1063
00:49:14,541 --> 00:49:18,910
HAS STRUGGLED WITH ADDICTION FOR
MOST OF HIS LIFE
1064
00:49:18,912 --> 00:49:21,447
AND WAS A SERIOUS HEROIN ADDICT,
1065
00:49:21,448 --> 00:49:25,17
WHICH EVENTUALLY BROUGHT HIM INTO
FEDERAL PRISON.
1066
00:49:25,19 --> 00:49:27,218
IT BROKE MY HEART, THE COMBINATION,
1067
00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:30,656
WHEN HE WAS SENTENCED-- I KNEW
THE AMOUNT OF TIME
1068
00:49:30,657 --> 00:49:32,892
HE WAS GONNA BE SPENDING IN FEDERAL
PRISON
1069
00:49:32,894 --> 00:49:36,294
COMBINED WITH MY EARLY CANCER AT
THE SAME TIME.
1070
00:49:36,296 --> 00:49:38,697
THAT WAS A ONE-TWO SHOT
1071
00:49:38,699 --> 00:49:42,701
THAT WAS PROBABLY A PRETTY DARK
MOMENT.
1072
00:49:42,703 --> 00:49:44,737
WHEN HE WAS GROWING UP, YOU'RE
A BIG MOVIE STAR,
1073
00:49:44,739 --> 00:49:46,372
YOU HAVE INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITIES
1074
00:49:46,374 --> 00:49:49,741
THAT NOBODY ELSE ON THIS EARTH
TYPICALLY GETS.
1075
00:49:49,743 --> 00:49:53,779
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE TOUGH
TO LOOK BACK AND REGRET THAT.
1076
00:49:53,781 --> 00:49:54,914
BUT DO YOU?
1077
00:49:54,916 --> 00:49:56,314
DO I HAVE GUILTS? ABSOLUTELY.
1078
00:49:56,316 --> 00:49:58,650
YOU HAVE GUILTS. WE ALL DO.
1079
00:49:58,652 --> 00:50:01,454
YOU'RE WORKING HARD, YOU'VE GOT
THREE YOUNG CHILDREN.
1080
00:50:01,456 --> 00:50:02,788
YOU'RE JEWISH! YOU HAVE GUILT!
1081
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:04,389
(LAUGHS) EXACTLY.
1082
00:50:04,391 --> 00:50:05,591
I CAN RELATE, I'M CATHOLIC.
1083
00:50:05,593 --> 00:50:07,927
EXACTLY, THERE YOU ARE, EXACTLY.
WE HAVE IT TOO.
1084
00:50:07,928 --> 00:50:10,595
NOW, YOU'RE A MAN WHO LIKES TO
STAY ON TOP OF THINGS.
1085
00:50:10,597 --> 00:50:12,731
HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU HEARD
TED CRUZ
1086
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:15,333
START TO QUOTE THE LINES YOU HAD
SAID
1087
00:50:15,335 --> 00:50:17,1
WHEN YOU PLAYED THE PRESIDENT
1088
00:50:17,3 --> 00:50:18,336
IN THE FILM "THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT"?
1089
00:50:18,338 --> 00:50:20,605
IT WAS THE MOST DéJà--
1090
00:50:20,607 --> 00:50:23,708
THE WEIRDEST SENSATION I, I EVER
SAW.
1091
00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:26,845
AND I THOUGHT PROBABLY ONE OF THE
MOST EMBARRASSING.
1092
00:50:26,847 --> 00:50:43,962
WHEN CRUZ DID THAT, IT WAS FUNNY.
1093
00:50:43,964 --> 00:50:45,331
LIFE IMITATES ART.
1094
00:50:45,333 --> 00:50:47,833
¶
1095
00:50:47,834 --> 00:50:50,436
FOR DECADES NOW, MICHAEL
DOUGLAS HAS GENERALLY BEEN CAST
1096
00:50:50,437 --> 00:50:53,739
AS MORALLY, SOMETIMES
FATALLY, FLAWED.
1097
00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:54,906
HE TAKES YOUR MONEY...
1098
00:50:54,908 --> 00:50:56,775
I COULD SELL IT TODAY FOR 600.
1099
00:50:56,777 --> 00:50:58,811
...OR YOUR LIFE...
1100
00:50:58,812 --> 00:51:00,446
...CHEATS ON HIS WIFE...
1101
00:51:00,447 --> 00:51:02,847
I DON'T THINK HAVING DINNER WITH
ANYBODY'S A CRIME.
1102
00:51:02,849 --> 00:51:05,818
...SEDUCES YOUR WOMAN...
1103
00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:06,819
...OR MAN...
1104
00:51:06,821 --> 00:51:08,386
WELL, THIS MUST BE FATE.
1105
00:51:08,388 --> 00:51:10,89
...AND DOES IT WITH A SMILE.
1106
00:51:10,91 --> 00:51:12,524
IF HE HAS NEVER BEEN A
TRADITIONAL LEADING MAN,
1107
00:51:12,526 --> 00:51:15,861
HE HAS COMMITTED HIMSELF NOW
TO LEADING A TRADITIONAL LIFE.
1108
00:51:15,863 --> 00:51:18,62
HE CLS THIS HIS THIRD ACT,
1109
00:51:18,64 --> 00:51:20,599
AND HE WANTS IT TO BE
DIFFERENT.
1110
00:51:20,601 --> 00:51:22,534
HE'S A U.N. MESSENGER OF PEACE,
1111
00:51:22,536 --> 00:51:25,336
CONCENTRATING ON NUCLEAR
DISARMAMENT.
1112
00:51:25,338 --> 00:51:27,305
WE'LL SEE THE ELIMINATION OF WEAPONS.
1113
00:51:27,307 --> 00:51:29,809
HE'S FOCUSED ON PROVIDING
SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING
1114
00:51:29,811 --> 00:51:32,177
TO JEWISH PEOPLE IN INTERFAITH
MARRIAGES,
1115
00:51:32,179 --> 00:51:33,845
MUCH LIKE HIS OWN.
1116
00:51:33,847 --> 00:51:36,549
AND HE'S STILL TRYING TO
BE A GOOD SON.
1117
00:51:36,551 --> 00:51:40,84
MY FATHER IS 99 YEARS OLD.
1118
00:51:40,86 --> 00:51:42,20
I JUST SAW HIM.
1119
00:51:42,22 --> 00:51:43,888
HE'S GONNA BE A HUNDRED-- WOW.
1120
00:51:43,890 --> 00:51:44,889
--IN DECEMBER.
1121
00:51:44,891 --> 00:51:46,125
AND I BET YOU RIGHT NOW
1122
00:51:46,126 --> 00:51:47,726
HE'S IN BETTER SHAPE THAN HE WAS
FIVE YEARS AGO.
1123
00:51:47,728 --> 00:51:48,993
HE'S GOING TO A HUNDRED AND TWO.
1124
00:51:48,995 --> 00:51:50,229
(LAUGHS)
1125
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:51,797
HE GREW THIS REALLY LONG PONYTAIL...
1126
00:51:51,799 --> 00:51:53,933
HALFWAY DOWN HIS BACK.
1127
00:51:53,935 --> 00:51:57,1
I WENT OUT THIS LAST TIME AND IT
WAS GONE.
1128
00:51:57,3 --> 00:51:58,136
LITTLE BIT LIKE YOU.
1129
00:51:58,138 --> 00:51:59,538
I WAS GONNA SAY, I KNOW THE FEELING.
1130
00:51:59,540 --> 00:52:00,840
(LAUGHS) A LITTLE BIT LIKE YOU.
1131
00:52:00,842 --> 00:52:03,208
AND I SAID, "DAD, WHAT DID YOU
DO?
1132
00:52:03,210 --> 00:52:05,243
YOU CUT-- I LOVED YOUR-- LOVED
YOUR PONYTAIL, IT WAS GREAT."
1133
00:52:05,245 --> 00:52:08,247
HE SAID, "THIS MAKES ME LOOK YOUNGER."
1134
00:52:08,249 --> 00:52:09,447
HE SAYS...
1135
00:52:09,449 --> 00:52:10,883
YOU'VE GOTTA BE PLANNING SOMETHING
1136
00:52:10,885 --> 00:52:11,916
FOR HIS HUNDREDTH BIRTHDAY, NO?
1137
00:52:11,918 --> 00:52:13,152
WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT IT JUST NOW--
1138
00:52:13,154 --> 00:52:14,954
HE'S SORT OF LIKE, "WELL, YOU KNOW,
I MEAN, IT'S--
1139
00:52:14,956 --> 00:52:17,623
IT'LL BE IN THE AFTERNOON." YEAH.
1140
00:52:17,625 --> 00:52:19,791
THEY SAY IT SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE
PARTY AT THAT LEVEL.
1141
00:52:19,793 --> 00:52:22,594
MY NANA JUST HAD ONE OF THESE--
DON'T MAKE IT A SURPRISE.
1142
00:52:22,596 --> 00:52:24,62
HOW OLD WAS-- HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
1143
00:52:24,64 --> 00:52:25,96
YOU'RE KIDDING! MM-HMM.
1144
00:52:25,98 --> 00:52:26,431
I MEAN, I KNOW HE'S STILL MARRIED,
1145
00:52:26,433 --> 00:52:27,600
BUT YOU KNOW-- SHE'S FREE.
1146
00:52:27,602 --> 00:52:28,801
SO IF HE HAS ANY FRIENDS...
1147
00:52:28,802 --> 00:52:31,403
RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT... OKAY.
1148
00:52:31,405 --> 00:52:32,404
A HUNDRED? YEAH.
1149
00:52:32,406 --> 00:52:33,672
CONGRATULATIONS.
1150
00:52:33,674 --> 00:52:37,610
YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE
AT FATHERHOOD.
1151
00:52:37,612 --> 00:52:39,311
NAME ONE SPECIFIC THING
1152
00:52:39,312 --> 00:52:43,448
THAT YOU'RE DOING DIFFERENTLY THIS
TIME AROUND.
1153
00:52:43,450 --> 00:52:44,550
LISTENING.
1154
00:52:44,552 --> 00:52:47,620
WITH THE KIDS NOW I AM A MUCH BETTER
LISTENER.
1155
00:52:47,622 --> 00:52:50,54
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I REMEMBER
THAT HAPPENED
1156
00:52:50,56 --> 00:52:54,360
IS WHEN MY MOTHER GOT TOGETHER
WITH MY STEPFATHER EARLY ON
1157
00:52:54,362 --> 00:52:56,327
AND HE ASKED ME A QUESTION ONE
DAY--
1158
00:52:56,329 --> 00:52:59,965
HE WAS TALKING, I WAS TALKING AND
I WAS PRETTY... INWARD--
1159
00:52:59,967 --> 00:53:03,968
AND I LOOKED UP AND HE WAS LISTENING
TO ME.
1160
00:53:03,970 --> 00:53:06,539
HE WAS ACTUALLY LISTENING TO ME.
1161
00:53:06,541 --> 00:53:09,574
AND I JUST SWELLED UP AND STARTED
CRYING.
1162
00:53:09,576 --> 00:53:10,976
IT WAS THE WEIRDEST THING THAT
CAME OVER,
1163
00:53:10,978 --> 00:53:14,947
JUST BECAUSE I HAD SOMEBODY-- A
MALE FIGURE, UH--
1164
00:53:14,948 --> 00:53:16,81
WHO LISTENED TO ME.
1165
00:53:16,83 --> 00:53:18,551
SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST,
IS--
1166
00:53:18,552 --> 00:53:20,285
NOT ONLY WITH MY KIDS, LISTENING.
1167
00:53:20,287 --> 00:53:21,553
WITH CATHERINE, I LISTEN BETTER.
1168
00:53:21,555 --> 00:53:23,289
IT HELPS IN A MARRIAGE TOO. A LOT.
1169
00:53:23,291 --> 00:53:25,857
IT DOES. IT HELPS A LOT. HOW IS
SHE DOING?
1170
00:53:25,859 --> 00:53:27,125
SHE'S WONDERFUL.
1171
00:53:27,127 --> 00:53:28,326
SHE'S JUST GREAT.
1172
00:53:28,328 --> 00:53:30,496
I KNOW YOU RECENTLY WENT BACK TO
THE PLACE
1173
00:53:30,498 --> 00:53:31,997
THAT YOU PROPOSED TO HER.
1174
00:53:31,999 --> 00:53:33,332
YOU'RE GETTING A LITTLE SAPPY,
AREN'T YOU?
1175
00:53:33,333 --> 00:53:35,0
YOU'RE KIND OF A ROMANTIC.
1176
00:53:35,1 --> 00:53:37,535
MEGYN, YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH HOMEWORK
ON ALL THIS STUFF.
1177
00:53:37,537 --> 00:53:38,970
COME ON. I KNOW WHAT I SAW.
1178
00:53:38,972 --> 00:53:41,139
I JUST LOVE HER MORE AND MORE.
1179
00:53:41,141 --> 00:53:44,108
LOVE CAN ACTUALLY BECOME DEEPER.
1180
00:53:44,110 --> 00:53:45,577
WAS THERE A MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE
1181
00:53:45,579 --> 00:53:47,780
WHEN YOU THOUGHT, "THIS IS IT.
1182
00:53:47,781 --> 00:53:49,415
"I AM FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS.
1183
00:53:49,416 --> 00:53:50,615
THIS IS MY MOMENT."
1184
00:53:50,617 --> 00:53:52,851
PROBABLY NOW IS, IS AS CLOSE AS
IT COMES
1185
00:53:52,853 --> 00:53:55,253
IN TERMS OF PUTTING THE WHOLE PACKAGE
TOGETHER,
1186
00:53:55,255 --> 00:53:58,90
YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF YOUR, YOUR
PERSONAL LIFE
1187
00:53:58,92 --> 00:54:00,59
AND I'M STILL WORKING.
1188
00:54:00,61 --> 00:54:01,560
GETTING A CHANCE TO TALK WITH YOU
1189
00:54:01,562 --> 00:54:02,695
ON YOUR FIRST, UH, YOUR FIRST SHOW.
1190
00:54:02,697 --> 00:54:05,129
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EXCELLENT.
1191
00:54:05,131 --> 00:54:06,764
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU!
1192
00:54:06,766 --> 00:54:10,903
A SHOCKING ADMISSION FROM
DONALD TRUMP WHEN WE RETURN.
1193
00:54:10,905 --> 00:54:12,71
I KNEW IT!
1194
00:54:12,72 --> 00:54:13,771
¶
1195
00:54:13,773 --> 00:55:49,400
THIS CLEAN WAS LIKE - POW. EVERYTHING
WELL? I KNEW IT!
1196
00:55:49,402 --> 00:55:51,636
IT FELT LIKE I HAD JUST GONE TO
THE DENTIST.
1197
00:55:51,638 --> 00:55:54,673
MY TEETH ARE GLOWING. THEY ARE
SO WHITE.
1198
00:55:54,675 --> 00:55:57,41
6X CLEANING*, 6X WHITENINGá*
1199
00:55:57,43 --> 00:55:59,278
IN THE CERTAIN SPOTS THAT I GET
VERY SENSITIVE...
1200
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,80
...I REALLY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE.
1201
00:56:01,82 --> 00:56:04,750
AND AT TWO WEEKS SUPERIOR SENSITIVITY
RELIEF TO SENSODYNE
1202
00:56:04,751 --> 00:56:06,518
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THE TWO
STEPS!
1203
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,221
STEP 1 CLEANS AND RELIEVES SENSITIVITY,
STEP 2 WHITENS.
1204
00:56:10,223 --> 00:56:12,624
IT'S THE WHOLE PACKAGE. NO ONE'S
DONE THIS.
1205
00:56:12,625 --> 00:56:45,990
CREST - HEALTHY, BEAUTIFUL SMILES
FOR LIFE.
1206
00:56:45,992 --> 00:56:48,793
...ONE OF MANY PIECES IN MY I HAVLIFE.HMA...
1207
00:56:48,795 --> 00:56:50,762
SO WHEN MY ASTHMA SYMPTOMS KEPT
COMING BACK
1208
00:56:50,764 --> 00:56:52,831
ON MY LONG-TERM CONTROL MEDICINE.
1209
00:56:52,833 --> 00:56:55,134
I TALKED TO MY DOCTOR AND FOUND
A MISSING PIECE
1210
00:56:55,135 --> 00:56:56,701
IN MY ASTHMA TREATMENT WITH BREO.
1211
00:56:56,703 --> 00:56:59,37
ONCE-DAILY BREO PREVENTS ASTHMA
SYMPTOMS.
1212
00:56:59,39 --> 00:57:00,72
BREO IS FOR ADULTS
1213
00:57:00,73 --> 00:57:01,439
WITH ASTHMA NOT WELL CONTROLLED
1214
00:57:01,441 --> 00:57:03,142
ON A LONG-TERM ASTHMA CONTROL MEDICINE,
1215
00:57:03,144 --> 00:57:04,943
LIKE AN INHALED CORTICOSTEROID.
1216
00:57:04,945 --> 00:57:06,612
BREO WON'T REPLACE A RESCUE INHALER
1217
00:57:06,614 --> 00:57:08,212
FOR SUDDEN BREATHING PROBLEMS.
1218
00:57:08,214 --> 00:57:09,447
BREO OPENS UP AIRWAYS
1219
00:57:09,449 --> 00:57:12,750
TO HELP IMPROVE BREATHING FOR A
FULL 24 HOURS.
1220
00:57:12,752 --> 00:57:14,319
BREO CONTAINS A TYPE OF MEDICINE
1221
00:57:14,321 --> 00:57:15,287
THAT INCREASES THE RISK OF DEATH
1222
00:57:15,289 --> 00:57:16,354
FROM ASTHMA PROBLEMS
1223
00:57:16,356 --> 00:57:18,156
AND MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF HOSPITALIZATION
IN
1224
00:57:18,158 --> 00:57:19,291
CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS.
1225
00:57:19,292 --> 00:57:21,25
BREO IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WHOSE
1226
00:57:21,27 --> 00:57:22,493
ASTHMA IS WELL CONTROLLED ON A
1227
00:57:22,495 --> 00:57:23,395
LONG-TERM ASTHMA CONTROL MEDICINE,
1228
00:57:23,396 --> 00:57:24,962
LIKE AN INHALED CORTICOSTEROID.
1229
00:57:24,964 --> 00:57:26,799
ONCE YOUR ASTHMA IS WELL CONTROLLED,
1230
00:57:26,801 --> 00:57:27,966
YOUR DOCTOR WILL DECIDE IF YOU
1231
00:57:27,968 --> 00:57:30,1
CAN STOP BREO AND PRESCRIBE A
1232
00:57:30,3 --> 00:57:30,968
DIFFERENT ASTHMA CONTROL MEDICINE,
1233
00:57:30,970 --> 00:57:32,637
LIKE AN INHALED CORTICOSTEROID.
1234
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:34,639
DO NOT TAKE BREO MORE THAN PRESCRIBED.
1235
00:57:34,641 --> 00:57:36,175
SEE YOUR DOCTOR IF YOUR ASTHMA
1236
00:57:36,177 --> 00:57:37,643
DOES NOT IMPROVE OR GETS WORSE.
1237
00:57:37,645 --> 00:57:39,978
ASK YOUR DOCTOR IF 24-HOUR BREO
1238
00:57:39,979 --> 00:57:41,646
COULD BE A MISSING PIECE FOR YOU.
1239
00:57:41,648 --> 00:57:42,980
SEE IF YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR
1240
00:57:42,982 --> 00:57:45,17
12 MONTHS FREE AT MYBREO.COM.
1241
00:57:45,19 --> 00:57:59,798
RAPID-FIRE QUESTIONS ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP.
1242
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,366
NUMBER ONE: FAVORITE MOVIE.
1243
00:58:02,368 --> 00:58:04,1
"CITIZEN KANE".
1244
00:58:04,3 --> 00:58:05,871
FAVORITE BOOK, OTHER THAN THE BIBLE
1245
00:58:05,873 --> 00:58:06,971
OR "THE ART OF THE DEAL".
1246
00:58:06,973 --> 00:58:10,908
UM... "ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN
FRONT".
1247
00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:12,311
WHAT WAS THE LAST BOOK YOU READ?
1248
00:58:12,312 --> 00:58:13,645
DO YOU GET ANY TIME TO READ?
1249
00:58:13,646 --> 00:58:16,147
OH, NO, IT'S SO LONG, BECAUSE NOW
I READ PASSAGES,
1250
00:58:16,149 --> 00:58:19,450
I READ, I READ AREAS, I'LL READ
CHAPTERS.
1251
00:58:19,452 --> 00:58:21,118
I JUST... I DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
1252
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,256
YOU KNOW, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME
I WATCHED A BASEBALL GAME? MM-HMM.
1253
00:58:24,258 --> 00:58:25,990
I'M WATCHING YOU ALL THE TIME,
OKAY?
1254
00:58:25,992 --> 00:58:27,358
I KNEW IT!
1255
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,760
I'M WATCHING O'REILLY ALL THE TIME,
1256
00:58:28,761 --> 00:58:30,461
I'M WATCHING HANNITY. BE HONEST.
1257
00:58:30,463 --> 00:58:32,396
I'M WATCHING GRETA... YOU DIDN'T
REALLY BOYCOTT.
1258
00:58:32,398 --> 00:58:35,333
UH... A LITTLE BIT.
1259
00:58:35,335 --> 00:58:36,534
NOT AS MUCH AS...
1260
00:58:36,536 --> 00:58:38,169
NOT AS MUCH AS I WANT PEOPLE TO
BELIEVE.
1261
00:58:38,171 --> 00:58:39,503
BUT I DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
1262
00:58:39,505 --> 00:58:41,272
I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND READ
A BOOK,
1263
00:58:41,274 --> 00:58:43,407
BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME
ANYMORE.
1264
00:58:43,409 --> 00:58:44,775
WELL, IN ADDITION TO "THE KELLY
FILE,"
1265
00:58:44,777 --> 00:58:46,577
I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A PROJECT,
1266
00:58:46,579 --> 00:58:49,847
A BOOK WHICH I'M UNVEILING RIGHT
NOW.
1267
00:58:49,849 --> 00:58:51,683
IT'S CALLED "SETTLE FOR MORE"--
1268
00:58:51,685 --> 00:58:55,720
MY LIFE MOTTO EVER SINCE I WAS
AN UNHAPPY LAWYER YEARS AGO.
1269
00:58:55,722 --> 00:58:57,923
THE BOOK SHOWS HOW I DID JUST THAT,
1270
00:58:57,925 --> 00:59:00,524
WITH SOME TEARS AND LAUGHS ALONG
THE WAY.
1271
00:59:00,526 --> 00:59:02,728
AND, YES, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
1272
00:59:02,729 --> 00:59:06,597
I WILL SPEAK OPENLY ABOUT MY YEAR
WITH DONALD TRUMP.
1273
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:09,400
YOU CAN PRE-ORDER IT NOW WHEREVER
BOOKS ARE SOLD.
1274
00:59:09,402 --> 00:59:11,770
IT HITS STORES NOVEMBER 15TH.
1275
00:59:11,771 --> 00:59:13,638
MY THANKS TO DONALD TRUMP,
1276
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,341
LAVERNE COX, ROBERT SHAPIRO, AND
MICHAEL DOUGLAS
1277
00:59:16,343 --> 00:59:18,843
FOR SITTING DOWN WITH ME ON MY
FIRST SPECIAL.
1278
00:59:18,845 --> 00:59:20,711
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR WATCHING.
1279
00:59:20,713 --> 00:59:22,47
GOOD NIGHT.
1280
00:59:22,49 --> 00:59:25,50
IS IT EVEN TOUGHER WHEN YOU'RE
WITH CATHERINE?
1281
00:59:25,52 --> 00:59:26,685
THEN IT'S THE DOUBLE.
1282
00:59:26,687 --> 00:59:28,120
I MEAN, A LITTLE BIT, BUT I MEAN...
1283
00:59:28,122 --> 00:59:30,322
THAT'S A HIGH-QUALITY PRODUCT.
1284
00:59:30,323 --> 00:59:34,92
¶
1285
00:59:34,93 --> 00:59:38,896
...PART OF THE SPEAR?
1286
00:59:38,898 --> 00:59:41,266
YOU ARE AT THE POINTY PART OF THE
SPEAR, MY FRIEND.
1287
00:59:41,268 --> 00:59:42,333
(LAUGHING)
1288
00:59:42,335 --> 00:59:44,502
IT'S GREAT.
1289
00:59:44,504 --> 00:59:45,570
OH, YEAH, SORRY.
1290
00:59:45,572 --> 00:59:47,539
WE'RE HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME.
1291
00:59:47,541 --> 00:59:48,606
WATCH THE WHOLE THING.
1292
00:59:48,608 --> 00:59:49,774
PEOPLE LOVE...
1293
00:59:49,776 --> 00:59:51,843
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S DIFFERENT. YES,
YES.
1294
00:59:51,844 --> 00:59:54,345
THEY LOVE THE RINK, THEY LOVE THE
GRAND HYATT...
1295
00:59:54,347 --> 01:00:07,125
WELL, IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR
YOU TALK ABOUT,
1296
01:00:07,126 --> 01:00:11,629
WELCOME TO THIS SPECIAL EDITION
OF "HANNITY: CLINTON
1297
01:00:11,631 --> 01:00:13,731
VERSUS TRUMP." THESE TWO CANDIDATES
APPEAR TO
1298
01:00:13,733 --> 01:00:17,635
BE HEADED FOR A HISTORIC CLASH
IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
1299
01:00:17,637 --> 01:00:19,971
TONIGHT FOR THE HOUR, WE'RE GOING
TO SHOW YOU WHAT A CLINTON
1300
01:00:19,973 --> 01:00:21,540
VERSUS TRUMP 2016 MATCHUP WOULD
LOOK LIKE.
1301
01:00:21,541 --> 01:00:25,876
TAKE A LOOK. ¶
1302
01:00:25,878 --> 01:00:28,714
HE DOESN'T MIND IF OTHER COUNTRIES
GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
1303
01:00:28,716 --> 01:00:31,717
HE HAS SAID, LET'S GO BACK TO TORTURING
PEOPLE.
1304
01:00:31,718 --> 01:00:33,784
I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED WITH CROOKED
HILLARY YET.
1305
01:00:33,786 --> 01:00:41,25
WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED. WHAT TRUMP
SAYS ABOUT FOREIGN