1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 REMEMBER THE SPIN STOPS HERE. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING OUT 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:11,000 FOR YOU. Good evening, I'm Megyn Kelly. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Welcome to my first primetime network special. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Here's what you're in for. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 (overlapping voices) Donald Trump... Donald Trump... Donald Trump... Donald Trump. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 It's been a long nine months. It has been a long time. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,000 This is the first you and I 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 have ever discussed what happened. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,000 (Kelly) It's on. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 You've called women you don't like 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 I thought it was a fair question. 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 I thought it was unfair. 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 You know, it's not a cocktail party. 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 I want to talk for a minute about the tweeting. 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 You would be amazed at the ones I don't retweet. 18 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 "Bimbo"? Did I say that? 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Many times. Ooh, okay. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,000 ♪ I don't want no dissension... ♪ 21 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 And, fm rocky childhood to "Rocky Horror," 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 transgender star Laverne Cox is telling her story. 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Did you ever worry that your mom didn't love you? 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 That's exactly what I worried about. 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 I, um... Megyn... 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Also, it's been nearly two decades 27 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 since O.J.'s first defense lawyer, Robert Shapiro, 28 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 has spoken. 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Moments after the verdict, O.J. Simpson leaned over 30 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,000 and whispered something in your ear. 31 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 What did he say? 32 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Do you believe that the killer 33 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 has never faced trial? 34 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 And why can't Michael Douglas ever catch a break 35 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 with the tabloids? 36 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Well, I was thinking when I heard 37 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,000 that you had three months to live 38 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 and you were sitting for this interview for me 39 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 that maybe I was on your bucket list. 40 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 (laughs) I'm honored. 41 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Tick-tock. (laughs) 42 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 ♪ 43 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Let's just dive right in. 44 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 It's been over nine months 45 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 since the first Republican presidential debate, 46 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,000 and an electric exchange between yours truly and Donald Trump. 47 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 What happened between us then-- and after-- 48 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 would make headlines around the globe. 49 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 For those nine long months, he and I did not speak. 50 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Nor did I ever respond to his attacks. 51 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Tonight, for the first time, I'll ask him about that... 52 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 and about his seemingly unstoppable rise 53 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 to the top of the Republican ticket. 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 And nothing is off-limits. 55 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 America has never seen anything 56 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 like the political juggernaut called Donald Trump. 57 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 A businessman and reality TV star 58 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 with no political experience 59 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 burst onto the scene and electrified voters 60 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 with big threats... 61 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 We're gonna knock the hell out of ISIS. 62 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 ...and big promises. 63 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 We are going to win in every aspect of our lives. 64 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 While explaining the art of the deal... 65 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 We're gonna make great trade deals. 66 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 ...he perfected the art of the insult... 67 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 It's Rubio! 68 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 (crowd cheering) 69 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 ...against rivals... 70 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Little Marco, Little Marco. 71 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Lyin' Ted, Lyin' Ted. 72 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 ...detractors... 73 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 He's a war hero because he was captured. 74 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 I like people that weren't captured. 75 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 ...and the press... 76 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,000 I would never kill 'em. 77 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,000 But I do hate 'em. 78 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 ...including yours truly, 79 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 beginning with the very first Republican debate. 80 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Mr. Trump. 81 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 One of the things people love about you 82 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 is you speak your mind 83 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 and you don't use a politician's filter. 84 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 You've called women you don't like 85 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,000 fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. 86 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Your Twitter account includes several-- Only Rosie O'Donnell. 87 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 (laughter) Mr. Trump did not like the question-- 88 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 No, it wasn't. at all. 89 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O'Donnell. 90 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Yes, I'm sure it was. 91 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man 92 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 we should elect as president? 93 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 What I say is what I say 94 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 and honestly, Megyn, if you don't like it, I'm sorry. 95 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 I've been very nice to you, 96 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 although I could probably maybe not be 97 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 based on the way you have treated me, 98 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 but I wouldn't do that. 99 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 And he sent out a tweet that night... 100 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 (Andrea Mitchell) "Wow, @MegynKelly really bombed tonight." 101 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 And... a re-tweet. 102 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 (man) "Fox viewers give low marks to bimbo @MegynKelly." 103 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Then he made this remark... 104 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 all sorts of ridiculous questions and, you know, 105 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. 106 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Blood coming out of her... 107 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 wherever. 108 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,000 (Kelly) And he explained it this way. 109 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 (Trump on phone) I was going to say nose and/or ears, 110 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 because that's a very common statement. 111 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Blood pouring out of somebody's nose-- 112 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 it's a statement showing anger. 113 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 (Kelly) That set off a firestorm. 114 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 This is a candidate who has really had a history 115 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 of some misogynistic statements. 116 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,000 (woman) We've seen Donald Trump do this over and over again. 117 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 The pundits said his attacks were political suicide. 118 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 (woman) More fallout from the latest Republican debate. 119 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 (woman) I don't know how he thinks he's going to win an election. 120 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,000 (woman) His unfavorability with women is skyward. 121 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 This weekend surely signaled the end of Trump's campaign. 122 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 The pundits... were wrong. 123 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,000 (woman) An NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll shows Trump with 23%. 124 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 (man) New poll numbers show that Donald Trump is surging. 125 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 (man) The more Trump speaks, the more he spikes. 126 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 It didn't matter what he said... or how he said it. 127 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown 128 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 of Muslims entering the United States." 129 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 When Mexico sends its people... 130 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, 131 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 they're rapists... 132 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Voters were angry and they liked that he was angry too. 133 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,000 In January, he skipped the next Fox News debate... 134 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Megyn Kelly's really biased against me. 135 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Do you really think she can be fair at a debate? 136 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 ...which set off a new torrent of tweets. 137 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,000 80,000 tweets directed towards Megyn Kelly. 138 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Vocativ broke it down 139 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 to see what the most popular words were. 140 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 (overlapping voices) Crazy Megyn Kelly... sick... crazy... overrated... whore... 141 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 bimbo... blonde... bimbo... skank... 142 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Megyn Kelly... slut... hooker. 143 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Days later, he lost the Iowa caucuses... 144 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 But Trump went on to win... and win some more. 145 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 (man) Another big win for Donald Trump. 146 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 (man) A huge win for Donald Trump. 147 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 And then... A new debate... 148 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Nice to be with you, Megyn. 149 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Great to have you here. 150 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 You're looking well, you're looking well. 151 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 As are you. 152 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Followed by more fallout-- 153 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 and a call to boycott "The Kelly File". 154 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 (man) Can't watch Crazy Megyn anymore. 155 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 ♪ 156 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Finally in April-- a meeting at Trump Tower. 157 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 The meeting was at my request 158 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 and Mr. Trump was gracious enough to agree to it. 159 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 (woman) Donald Trump and his arch-nemesis Megyn Kelly 160 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 are making peace. 161 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,000 (Charlie Rose) There are signs of a truce this morning between Trump... 162 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 (man) Their feud apparently diffused. 163 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 You met with Megyn Kelly today. 164 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 How did that go? 165 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 (crowd booing) 166 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,000 17 candidates down and Trump is the last man standing... 167 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,000 the presumptive Republican nominee. 168 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Let's begin. 169 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Thank you for sitting down with me. 170 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Thank you very much, it's my honor. 171 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Been a long nine months... 172 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 It has been a long time, I agree. 173 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 I want to ask you about the beginning of your campaign. 174 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 There had to be a moment-- 175 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,000 on stage at a campaign rally, or one night after a win-- 176 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 where it occurred to you: 177 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 "I could actually be the president." 178 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 When was that? 179 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Well, I think the debates were really a big thing. 180 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,000 And not to bring up an unpleasant debate, 181 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 but you know, that first debate was pretty amazing. 182 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 And 24 million people watching it, 183 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 a record on cable television. 184 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,000 And I think that meant something. 185 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 I think that first debate meant something... 186 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 because I felt very, very comfortable with the subject 187 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 and I felt very comfortable 188 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 with the people I was competing against. 189 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Let's talk a little bit about, um, litigation, 190 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 because you, you have threatened to sue many people 191 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 in the course of the campaign. 192 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 But of course, if you wind up president, 193 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 you are not gonna be able to do that either. 194 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Well, you actually could... Can, can you go four years 195 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 without threatening to sue anybody? 196 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Well, what China has done to us has been... 197 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Maybe you do the world... (laughs) 198 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,000 You know, you do three... 199 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 You know, you do have methods of suing countries, okay? 200 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 It's gonna be a busy law firm... 201 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 No, no, it's gonna be busy, but, uh, it's a little different. 202 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 And it's also a tactic for me, 203 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 it's a business for me, and I've been successful, 204 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 and I've, you know, used litigation. 205 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 And sometimes I use it maybe when I shouldn't, 206 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 and sometimes I don't. 207 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Have you made any mistakes in this campaign? 208 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 You had said publicly you thought 209 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 the retweet about Heidi Cruz was a mistake. 210 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Let me just... 211 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Well, I said I could have done without it, to be exact. 212 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 I mean, I could have done without it... 213 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Well, you said "a mistake." 214 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Are you walking that back? 215 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Well, I did... No, no, I am not walking it back. 216 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 But I, but I, I actually didn't say it that way. 217 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 I said, uh, I could have done without it. I mean... 218 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,000 But it was a mistake, wasn't it? 219 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 I mean, that... You shouldn't have done that, right? 220 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 I, I wish I didn't do it. 221 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Although, you know, I guess you could say she's fair game 222 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 'cause she's very much involved with the campaign. 223 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 But I don't know, she just seems like a nice woman... 224 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 But that, that tweet mocked her looks... 225 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Well, you know what? 226 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 I have millions of followers @realDonaldTrump. 227 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 I have millions of followers, I have millions of Facebook... 228 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I'm, I'm familiar... Yes, you are. 229 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 The thing that gets me in trouble is retweets. 230 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 The retweet is really more of a killer than the tweets. 231 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 The tweets I seem to do pretty well with. 232 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 So that's one, the Heidi Cruz thing. 233 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Let me just give you a couple... 234 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Go ahead, sure. ...a list of a couple... 235 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Sure, go ahead. ...and tell me... 236 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 ...whether you have any regrets on it... 237 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 The, the comment about John McCain, 238 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 You prefer people who weren't captured. 239 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Um, the comment about Carly Fiorina's face. 240 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 But do you regret any of those comments? 241 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Uh, yeah, I guess so, but you have to go forward, you have... 242 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Make a mistake, you go forward 243 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 and you, you know, you can correct a mistake... 244 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 But to look back and say, 245 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 "Gee whiz, I wish I didn't do this or that," 246 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 I don't think that's good... I don't even think... 247 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 In a certain way, I don't even think that's healthy. 248 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I want to talk a little bit about your family. 249 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Your, your older brother Fred Jr. 250 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,000 was an alcoholic and died at a relatively young age. 251 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 When I say his name, what does that bring up for you? 252 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Well, he was great. 253 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Uh, he was the most handsome person. 254 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 He was a, uh, really smart guy. 255 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Really, really smart guy. He had everything. 256 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,000 But at a certain age, he started drinking a little bit, 257 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,000 a little more, a little more, 258 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 and ultimately it was a big problem. 259 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 And he'd say, "Don't ever, ever drink and don't ever..." 260 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 And I'll tell you what: 261 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 I never... I've never had a glass of alcohol... 262 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Never? I have, I have other problems, okay? 263 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 But I have never had... What are they? Get specific. 264 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 I don't want to talk to you about that. 265 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 (laughs) That, that I can't talk about. 266 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 That would be too good. 267 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 You've been divorced twice. 268 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Yes. 269 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Did you learn something about relationships, 270 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 about love, about yourself? 271 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Well, you have to put more into it... 272 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 I put so much into my business 273 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 that I didn't put enough into the relationship. 274 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 And I see that, and I've learned that. 275 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,000 I mean, I have learned that. 276 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Sometimes there's nothing you can do about that 277 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 because that's the way you are. 278 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 I mean, if somebody told you that you have to ease up, 279 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 you can only work half the number of hours 280 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 that you're working, 281 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 I don't know if you'd be able to do that... 282 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 I'd give it a try. 283 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 No. But even if they said, 284 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 "You'd have an even better relationship 285 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 with your husband"-- and I hear it's just great. 286 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 But you know what I mean... (laughs) 287 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 I don't know that you'd be able to do that. 288 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Has anyone ever hurt you emotionally? 289 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Well, I think the big thing 290 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 would be maybe the death of my brother. 291 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 That was, you know, the hardest thing for me, uh, to take. 292 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 That was very tough because it's, you know, unnatural. 293 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 And he saw a certain potential in me, 294 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 and he would say, "Don't ever have a drink." 295 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Now, I don't carry it that far with people, I don't. 296 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I never had a drink. 297 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 But you know, people can have a drink 298 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 and they can do it socially. 299 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 But you know, that can lead... 300 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,000 You tell me if I am wrong. 301 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 I feel like you are trying to get out of bounds 302 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 on the emotional question 303 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,000 to the, the subject of alcoholism, which we discussed. 304 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Has it happened that somebody has, 305 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 has done something to you? 306 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 You know, not a death in the family. 307 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 But has done something to you, to wound you. 308 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Well, you know, I don't know... I, I can say this. 309 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 It would be something I could certainly think about 310 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 and, you know, come back with an answer. 311 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 No, it's okay, I mean... But, but I, I will say this. 312 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Um, when I'm wounded, I go after people hard, okay? 313 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 And I try and "un-wound" myself. 314 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Most kids between the ages of 6 and 16 315 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000 have been bullied at some point in their lives. 316 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Were you ever bullied? 317 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 No, I wasn't. 318 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 But, but I have seen bullying. 319 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,000 And bullying doesn't have to just be as a child. 320 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 I mean, I know people are bullied 321 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 when they're 55 years old... 322 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 It can happen when you are 45. 323 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 I mean, it's, it's, it's... you know, it happens, right? 324 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 But... you gotta get over it. 325 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 You have to fight back, do whatever you have to do. 326 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Let me ask you about that, 327 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 because most American parents try to raise their kids 328 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,000 to not bully, to not name-call, to not tease, not taunt. 329 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 How can they effectively bring that message 330 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 when the frontrunner for the Republican nomination 331 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 does all of those things? 332 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Well, I, I do it... Really, it... 333 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 You know, I've been saying during this whole campaign 334 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 that I'm a counterpuncher, you understand that. 335 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I'm responding. 336 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Now, I then respond at times-- maybe ten, I don't know-- 337 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 I mean, I respond pretty strongly. 338 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 But in just about all cases, 339 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 I've been responding to what they did to me. 340 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 So it's not a one-way street. 341 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Let's talk about us. 342 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Okay. 343 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 I asked you a tough question about women. 344 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 "Bimbo"? 345 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Over your life, Megyn, 346 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 you been called a lot worse. 347 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Now, if you could go back and wave a magic wand, 348 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 and have been born with a female body, 349 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,000 would you do that? 350 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:37,000 ♪ 351 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 would you do that? What are you doing? 352 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Sara, I love you, and... 353 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 [PHONE RINGS] 354 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Ah, it's my brother. Keep going... 355 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Sara, will you marry... 356 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 [PHONE RINGS AGAIN] 357 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 WHAT DO YOU WANT, TODD???? 358 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 [CROWD CHEERING] 359 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Keep it going!!!! 360 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 If you sit on your phone, you butt-dial people. 361 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 It's what you do. Todd! 362 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 If you want to save fifteen percent or more 363 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 on car insurance, you switch to GEICO. 364 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 It's what you do. 365 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 I know we just met like, two months ago... 366 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 YES! 367 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 [CROWD CHEERING] 368 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,000 [CROWD CHEERING OVER PHONE] 369 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Let's talk about us. 370 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Okay. 371 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 We were always friendly. 372 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Right. Good relationship. Right? 373 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,000 And then came the August 6, 2015 debate, 374 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,000 and I asked you a tough question about women, 375 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 using only the words that you had used. 376 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 I thought it was a fair question. 377 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Why didn't you? 378 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 I thought it was unfair, I thought it... 379 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 First of all, I didn't think it was really a question. 380 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I thought it was more of a statement. 381 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,000 That's the first question 382 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 that I've ever been asked during a debate. 383 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 And I've never debated before. 384 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 I mean, my whole life is a debate, 385 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 but I've never actually debated before. 386 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 And I'm saying to myself, "Man, what a question." 387 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 And then, of course, then you have Bret doing his thing. 388 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 So I'm saying to myself, "I got two hours of this?" 389 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 I don't really blame you because you're doing your thing. 390 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,000 But from my standpoint, I don't have to like it... 391 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Afterward, you said 392 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 that you didn't feel that the moderators had been "nice." 393 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,000 But do you think it's the journalist's role to be "nice" 394 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 to presidential candidates at a debate? 395 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 No, fair. I don't care if they're nice. 396 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,000 But you used the word "nice." 397 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Well, okay. Uh, no, I don't think so. 398 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 I mean, I might have said they weren't nice, 399 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 but that doesn't mean they have to be nice. 400 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 I mean, I've known many... 401 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 You know, it's not a cocktail party... 402 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000 No, no, I'll tell you what, in a certain way, 403 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 what you did might have been a favor, 404 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 because I felt so good about having gotten through... 405 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 I said, "If I can get through this debate, 406 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 with those questions, you can get through anything." 407 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,000 You seemed to stay angry for months. 408 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Yeah. 409 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Was that real, or was that strategy? 410 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Well, I'm a real person. 411 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 I don't say, "Oh, gee, I'm angry tonight, 412 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 but tomorrow you're my best friend." 413 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 See, I do, I do have a theory 414 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,000 that, you know, when somebody does... 415 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 And this could happen again with us... 416 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 I mean, it could be, uh, even doing this particular interview. 417 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 I have great respect for you, 418 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 that you were able to call me and say, 419 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 "Let's get together and let's talk." 420 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 To me... I would not have done that. 421 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,000 I don't say that as an, you know, as a positive; 422 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 I think it's a negative, for me. 423 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 And you walk into Trump Tower, you didn't... 424 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000 We didn't have, like, on a neutral site 425 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 or over at Fox or something. 426 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,000 That would be a whole different thing 427 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 and I wouldn't have done it. 428 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 I think the doormen are still recovering... 429 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 I, I think the whole building is recovering. (laughs) 430 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 There are people going like, "This can't be possible," right? 431 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 And this is the first you and I have ever discussed 432 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 what happened... That's true. 433 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 ...between us, over the past nine months... 434 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 ...'cause you and I did not talk about that 435 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 at our meeting. We didn't discuss it. 436 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,000 No, we didn't discuss it. 437 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,000 So when you look back 438 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 on the, on the past nine months, 439 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 from that first debate to now, any regrets? 440 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Uh, absolutely I have regrets. 441 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 I don't think I want to discuss 442 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 what the regrets are, but absolutely. 443 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 I, I could have done certain things differently... 444 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 I could have maybe used different language, 445 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 uh, in a couple of instances... 446 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 But overall I have to be very happy with the outcome... 447 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,000 And I think if I didn't conduct myself in the way I've done it, 448 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 I don't think I would have been successful actually. 449 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 If I were soft... if I were, you know, "presidential." 450 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Okay, "presidential." 451 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 It's... in a way, it's a bad word, 452 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 because there's nothing wrong with being "presidential," 453 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 but if I would not have fought back the way I fought back, 454 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,000 I don't think I would have been successful. 455 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 You're no longer just Donald Trump, businessman, 456 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 or Donald Trump, host of "Celebrity Apprentice". 457 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Now you're steps away from the presidency. 458 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Have you given any thought, in this position, 459 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,000 to the power that your messaging has 460 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 on the lives of the people you target 461 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,000 and on the millions of people who take their cue from you? 462 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 I have, I have. 463 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 And I see suffering. 464 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 I mean, I see tremendous suffering, and I understand it. 465 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 I have a very big heart. 466 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 A lot of people don't understand that, 467 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,000 but people that know me do. 468 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 And we have to take care of our country. 469 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,000 And I do feel America first. 470 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 I mean, America has been fourth 471 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 and fifth and ninth, I mean... 472 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 But you know what I am saying. 473 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 When Donald Trump... I do. 474 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 ...targets somebody and says, 475 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 "This person is bad, that person is bad," 476 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,000 it creates a firestorm in those people's lives. 477 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000 And many of these people are so-called "civilians" 478 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 who haven't put themselves out there as public figures. 479 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 But it's in response to something that they did. 480 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Or it's in response to something... 481 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,000 But you are so powerful... You are so powerful now... 482 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 I don't view myself as that. 483 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 I mean, I view myself as a person that-- 484 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 like everybody else-- is fighting for survival. 485 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 I, that's all I view myself as. 486 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 And I really view myself now as somewhat of a messenger... 487 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 You know, this is, um... 488 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 This is a massive thing that's going on. 489 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 These are millions and millions of people 490 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 that have been disenfranchised from this country. 491 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000 I was in front of a group the other day, 492 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 25,000... at least 25,000 people. 493 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000 The place was going crazy. 494 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,000 And I said, I'm like the messenger. 495 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 It's true, but they're, they're listening to you... 496 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 And they're, they're taking their cue from you... 497 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 So that's the question, 498 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 is whether, now, so close to the Oval Office, 499 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 whether you will take that responsibility seriously, 500 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 and change your tone to try to be more unifying 501 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 and less divisive. 502 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 I do take it very seriously. 503 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 And I understand what's going on. 504 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 And when I see the fervor... 505 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000 When I see 25,000 people that have seats, 506 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 and not one person-- during a, an hour speech-- 507 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 will sit down. 508 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 I say, "Sit down, everybody, sit down." 509 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 And they don't sit down. 510 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,000 They refuse to sit down. 511 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 I mean, that's a great compliment. 512 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 But I do understand the power of the message. 513 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 There's no question about it. 514 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000 I want to talk for a minute about the tweeting. 515 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Okay. Set the scene for me. 516 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Because I know where I was when I was 517 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 on the receiving end of a lot of those tweets. 518 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,000 But I have always wondered where you were. 519 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,000 I'm picturing, like, a crushed velvet smoking jacket, you know, 520 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 chaise lounge, slippers... 521 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Maybe, maybe not as fancy as that... 522 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Maybe probably a lot less fancy... Walk us through it. 523 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 You said it's you, if it's past 7:00 in the evening... 524 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 This weekend, I picked up 114,000 people... 525 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 But what do you do? Do you pick up your iPhone...? 526 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Yes. ...and actually tweet yourself? 527 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Usually after 7:00 or 8:00, I'll do it myself. 528 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,000 But during the day, if I'm in the office... 529 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 I have a number of people that I'll just call out a tweet to. 530 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 It's always my writing. 531 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Do you call out "exclamation point"? 532 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 I do. I say, "Exclamation point!" (laughs) That's sad! 533 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 You know me well; you know me well. 534 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000 No, I'll say "Exclamation point." 535 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 Like... I'm familiar. 536 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 So they'll type it out for me real fast, 537 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 bring it in, I'll be in a meeting. 538 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Blah blah blah, boom, 539 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000 "Put an exclamation point here," and they'll send it out. 540 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 So, so I don't do the physical. 541 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Now, after, after like 7:00 or 8:00, 542 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 if I'm home, I'll do it myself. 543 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 And I have fans-- and you've probably learned-- 544 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 and I didn't do this for this reason. 545 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 But when you and I were having our little difficulty, 546 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 um, you probably had 547 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 some pretty nasty tweets sent your way. 548 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 I, I don't want to say, but I've heard that. 549 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000 I don't want that to happen, 550 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 but I have fans, they really love... 551 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000 We have an unbelievable bond, 552 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000 we have an unbelievable relationship. 553 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,000 But you retweet some of those... It's not just the fans. 554 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Yeah, but not the more nasty ones. 555 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000 You would be amazed at the ones I don't retweet. 556 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 "Bimbo"? 557 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Uh, well, that was a retweet, yeah. 558 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Did I say that? 559 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Many times. 560 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Ooh, okay. 561 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Excuse me. (laughs) 562 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000 What do you think with, I mean...? 563 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Not the most horrible thing-- 564 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 you know, again, politically-- but not the most... 565 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Over your life, Megyn, you've been called a lot worse, 566 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 is that right, wouldn't you say? 567 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000 You know, you've had a life 568 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,000 that's not been that easy and... 569 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000 It's not about me. It's not, it's not about me. 570 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000 It's about the messaging... 571 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 No, no, no, I understand that, no, no. 572 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 ...to, to young girls and to other women... 573 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 But again, it's, it's a certain amount of fighting back. 574 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 You know, it's, it's a modern-day form 575 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 of fighting back; I mean, it really is. 576 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 But, um... 577 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Are you gonna stop that, as president? 578 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Well, I am gonna stop it about you now, because... (laughs) 579 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,000 ...I, I think... I like our relationship right now. 580 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 So I am certainly not gonna do it with you. 581 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Yeah, I, I think so... Now you have my cell phone number... 582 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 I, I will say this... That is actually much more efficient... 583 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000 I do, and you gave me your cell phone number... 584 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 And you promised you would not use it for evil. 585 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000 No no no, I promise, I promise. 586 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 You'll never see that; you'll never see that. 587 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,000 If you don't become president, 588 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 will this all have been for nothing, 589 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,000 or will you have changed America? 590 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,000 So I got a call from a great writer, 591 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 who said to me, "Congratulations." 592 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 I say, "Congratulations on what?" 593 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 He said, "What you have done has never been done before." 594 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 I said, "What have I done?" 595 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 And he said, then he talked about different things... 596 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,000 And I said, "Well, unless I win, I can't do the changes. 597 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 "I can't make America great again. 598 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,000 "I can't lower taxes and, and make our military strong. 599 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 "And get along with other nations, frankly, 600 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 "that we don't get along with right now. 601 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 "But do better with them, you know, 602 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000 so that they're not ripping us off like they are." 603 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 But I said, "Unless I win, I can't do that." 604 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 He said, "No, no, you're wrong. 605 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 "What you have done has never been done before, 606 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000 and it'll go down in history." 607 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000 And I appreciate... 608 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 And I don't want to really talk him out of it, 609 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 'cause in case it doesn't work out, 610 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000 I guess I'd rather have that narrative. 611 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000 But I will say this: If I don't go all the way, 612 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,000 and if I don't win, I will consider it to be 613 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,000 a total and complete waste of time, energy and money. 614 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Mr. Trump, thank you very much. 615 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Thank you very much. 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Just Steve. 658 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Just Steve. 659 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Just Steve. 660 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Live Business, powered by SAP. 661 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,000 When you run live, you run simple. 662 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,000 The E-Class has 11 intelligent It recognizes pedestrianss. and alerts you. 663 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Warns you about incoming cross-traffic. 664 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. 665 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000 And it can even stop by itself. 666 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000 So in this crash test, one thing's missing: 667 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 A crash. 668 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 The 2016 E-Class. 669 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Lease the E350 for $499 a month at your local 670 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Mercedes-Benz dealer. 671 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 and in the fall, there will be a splashy new TV version 672 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000 of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". 673 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Both of these productions have something in common. 674 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 They feature the first transgender actress 675 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 ever to be on the brink of superstardom. 676 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Laverne Cox has a unique American success story-- 677 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 one that transcends transgender. 678 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000 ♪ 679 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 When you're a six-foot-two African-American trans woman, 680 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000 you get called a lot of things-- 681 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Glamorous... 682 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Sexy... 683 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 Beautiful. 684 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Do you ever get tired of being called beautiful? 685 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000 No. It's lovely to hear. 686 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 I didn't grow up feeling beautiful, 687 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000 so it's kind of nice. 688 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 But what made her the first transgender TV star 689 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,000 is her breakout role as Sophia on "Orange is the New Black". 690 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,000 I'm here... because I realized you might be my only friend. 691 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 One of the models for her character Sophia 692 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000 is CeCe McDonald, a transgender woman 693 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000 who was imprisoned for manslaughter 694 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 after defending herself from an attack. 695 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Laverne is the executive producer 696 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 of an upcoming documentary about McDonald 697 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 called "Free CeCe". 698 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 And she may well be on her way to becoming a trans icon. 699 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 She's taking on the role made famous by Tim Curry 700 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000 in a remake of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". 701 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 ♪ Whoo, ooh, ooh... 702 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,000 ♪ Shake makes me wanna take... 703 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000 So you grew up in Mobile, Alabama-- 704 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Yes. --with a single mother 705 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000 and an identical twin brother. Yes. 706 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000 I read that you said you did not see a difference, 707 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000 you didn't understand that there was a difference 708 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000 between a boy and a girl. 709 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 No... Which is so fascinating... 710 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Everyone was telling me that I was a boy, 711 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000 but I knew that I was a girl. 712 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000 I identified with things that were... 713 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 I just felt like I was a girl. 714 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 My third-grade teacher, actually, Miss Ridgeway, 715 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 called my mother on the phone and said, 716 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 "Your son is going to end up in New Orleans wearing a dress 717 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 if we don't get him into therapy right away." 718 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000 What did the therapy consist of? 719 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000 The whole idea was that we must "fix" me. 720 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 That, that I was... That there was something wrong with me... 721 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000 The therapist talked to my mother 722 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000 about injecting me with testosterone, 723 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000 to make me more masculine. 724 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 So, luckily for me, a red flag went up for my mother; 725 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000 something didn't seem quite right to her 726 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000 about injecting her third-grader with testosterone 727 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 to make them more masculine, 728 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 so we discontinued the therapy. 729 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 And when you were 11... 730 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Mm-hmm. 731 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 ...you took a bottle of pills. 732 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Yeah. Why? 733 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,000 Oh... 734 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000 (laughs) 735 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000 I didn't think we'd be going there... 736 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Oh, sorry. 737 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Um... 738 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,000 41% of all transgender people report having attempted suicide, 739 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 and when I was 11, I did as well. 740 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 What had happened is that, as puberty started, 741 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000 I also... in addition to being very feminine, 742 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000 I realized I was attracted to boys. 743 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 And, um, I learned in church that this was a sin. 744 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 And then my grandmother, 745 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000 had also passed away when I was in sixth grade. 746 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 She was an amazing woman. 747 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000 She was a domestic worker. 748 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 She worked in the, um, homes of white folks 749 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000 in the segregated South, cooking and cleaning, 750 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000 and she was this dignified woman. 751 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 And so I thought she was up in heaven 752 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000 looking down on me, 753 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 and I imagined she was extremely disappointed 754 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000 that I was having these thoughts about boys... 755 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000 And the idea of disappointing her made me not to want to live. 756 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000 And so I went to a medicine cabinet 757 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 and, um, took a bottle of pills and swallowed them. 758 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 And I went to sleep, hoping not to wake up. 759 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Did you ever worry that your mom didn't love you? 760 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000 That's exactly what, um... 761 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000 That's exactly what I worried about. 762 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,000 I, um... Megyn... (laughs) 763 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Um, yeah, um, that was... That's the only... 764 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 the only thing I've ever wanted, 765 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 is for my mother to love me... 766 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000 And when I was being sent to a therapist... 767 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000 it felt as if that she, she might not... 768 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000 So when you told your mother 769 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 that you identified as female, what was her reaction? 770 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 I called my mom and told her, 771 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 "I'm, I'm a, I'm a girl, and I... 772 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 This has been going on with me my whole life." 773 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 The first thing my mother said was, 774 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000 "But you have such big hands and feet." 775 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000 You would think, if she was gonna object to a body part, 776 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 she would have chosen something other 777 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000 (laughing) than the hands and the feet. 778 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000 But I think her whole thing was like, 779 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 "You'll never pull this off." 780 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 I mean, that was-- for me-- 781 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000 is what I understood her implication was: 782 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000 "You'll never pull this off." 783 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Um, and it was hard for many years, 784 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,000 and we had a lot of difficult discussions and arguments. 785 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Um, but we're in a really great place now, 786 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 where she accepts me as her daughter. 787 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000 This is my mother. 788 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000 (cheering and applause) 789 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 You have an identical twin brother. 790 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Yes. 791 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Tell us about that relationship. 792 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 He's just... he's my everything. 793 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000 I... he's my brother, um... 794 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Her not-so-identical-and-more twin brother, M Lamar, 795 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000 plays her character Sophia, pre-transition 796 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000 on "Orange is the New Black". 797 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000 What's wonderful about having a twin brother 798 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000 is that he's been there since the womb, 799 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000 and so he's like, "You're the same person you've always been. 800 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 The shell has changed, but you've always been this person." 801 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 Let's, let's talk about romance. 802 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000 (both laughing) 803 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Oh, really? 804 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Can we talk about your romantic life, Megyn? 805 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Let's talk about you. 806 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Uh-huh. Are you dating anyone? 807 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000 I don't really talk about who I'm dating, Megyn. 808 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Oh, come on, give us a little something. 809 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Dating as a trans woman is really hard. 810 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 It's been... I feel really lucky right now 811 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 at this stage of my life that, um... 812 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,000 things are good on that front. 813 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000 What kind of men do you like? 814 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 (laughing) What kind of men do you date? 815 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000 A guy who's kind of creative, I've found, 816 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 is, um, better for me. 817 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Looks are important. 818 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 I like to... I love, um, waking up in the morning 819 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 and seeing a beautiful man next to me. 820 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000 That's like one of the best things in the world. Amen. 821 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000 (both laughing) 822 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000 So I enjoy, you know, looking over and seeing a beautiful man. 823 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Now, if you could go back and wave a magic wand... 824 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Mm-hmm. ...and have been born with a female body, 825 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,000 would you, would you do that? 826 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 I wouldn't; I wouldn't. 827 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,000 And the reason for that is because... I think... 828 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 I now believe that being transgender is beautiful. 829 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Do you feel that... 830 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000 making the transition solved a lot of your problems 831 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000 or created new ones? 832 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Being... being a black transgender woman in America 833 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000 is really hard. It's been really hard for me. 834 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,000 But for me, living a lie was much worse. 835 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 I need to be in my truth. 836 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Um... and I've been very, very lucky 837 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000 and I've been able to live my dreams, 838 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000 and I believe everyone should have the right 839 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 to live their dreams. 840 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 This is America. (laughs) 841 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 We are supposed to all have that right. 842 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000 To actually put your hand in a glove 843 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 that may have taken two lives-- I can't imagine. 844 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 As you say it now, it is chilling. 845 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 You've actually gone through a lot 846 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 in recent years. 847 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000 What would you say was your darkest moment? 848 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,000 ♪ 849 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000 What would you say was your darkest moment? 850 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000 when they thought they should Westart saving for retirement.le 851 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Then we asked some older people 852 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,000 when they actually did start saving. 853 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 This gap between when we should start saving 854 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 and when we actually do is one of the reasons 855 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000 why too many of us aren't prepared for retirement. 856 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Just start as early as you can. 857 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 It's going to pay off in the future. 858 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000 If we all start saving a little more today, 859 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000 we'll all be better prepared tomorrow. 860 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Prudential. Bring Your Challenges. 861 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000 [ BOSS ] IT IS A VERY SMART PLAN. SO WE'RE ALL ON BOARD? 862 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 [ PAUL ] NO. THIS IS A STUPID PLAN. 863 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 HATE DRAMA? GO TO CARS.COM. 864 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000 RESEARCH. PRICE. FIND. 865 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000 ONLY CARS.COM HELPS YOU GET THE RIGHT CAR 866 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,000 WITHOUT ALL THE DRAMA. 867 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 I was in law school. 868 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 And like the rest of America, 869 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 I watched the trial gavel to gavel. 870 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Well, the smash success of the FX mini-series 871 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000 "The People vs. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story" 872 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000 has proven once again that everyone still likes to talk 873 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 about the Trial of the Century. 874 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Well, almost everyone. 875 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000 For nearly 20 years, Robert Shapiro, 876 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 O.J. Simpson's first defense attorney, 877 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000 has remained silent... until now. 878 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Thank you very much for being here. 879 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Why do you think the story 880 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 still brings out so much passion? 881 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000 I think because, number one, 882 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Simpson himself, great all-American hero, 883 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 one of the greatest football players who ever lived. 884 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,000 First time DNA was ever used in a trial, 885 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000 uh, of any significance, 886 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,000 very interesting lawyers on both sides, 887 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000 and a horrible, devastating loss to, to two families. 888 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000 (man) Mr. Simpson is a wanted murder suspect, 889 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000 two counts of murder. 890 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,000 (Kelly) When O.J. Simpson was first arrested 891 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 for killing his wife Nicole and her friend Ron Goldman, 892 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000 pretty much everyone thought he would be convicted. 893 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Not attorney Robert Shapiro. 894 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 Shapiro was so famous, he's portrayed by John Travolta 895 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,000 in the FX series "The People versus O.J. Simpson". 896 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Shapiro now says that a lot 897 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,000 of what you think you know about the trial is wrong. 898 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000 First: Shapiro says he outmaneuvered Marcia Clark 899 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000 by making her believe he wasn't ready. 900 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,000 The judge asked "Mr. Shapiro, what's your position?" 901 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 "Your Honor, we're ready for trial." 902 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Looks at Marcia Clark and says, "Call your first witness." 903 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000 And you could see the blood come out of her face, 904 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000 and from that day on, I knew, there would be no conviction. 905 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000 These are not efficient murders. 906 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000 These are murders that are really slaughters. 907 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Second: Shapiro believes the prosecution 908 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000 did not understand the evidence. 909 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Did the Dream Team win that case, 910 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000 or did the prosecution lose it? 911 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,000 I think it's a combination of both. 912 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 The prosecution wedded themselves 913 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,000 to "one knife, one killer" theory. 914 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000 I think it's pretty clear 915 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,000 that it was within reasonable medical probability 916 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 that more than one knife was used. 917 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000 There is a strong possibility 918 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000 that more than one person was involved. 919 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 And you believe 920 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 the killer of Nicole Brown Simpson 921 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 and Ron Goldman 922 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 has never faced trial? 923 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 I think there's a strong possibility 924 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000 that that's the case. 925 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000 If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. 926 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,000 And finally: Shapiro had a plan for that bloody glove. 927 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000 I tried the glove on. 928 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000 It was a little bit wide in my palm 929 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 and a little bit long in my fingers. 930 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000 O.J. Simpson has enormous hands 931 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000 and I knew that that glove would not fit him. 932 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Really? 933 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Wouldn't even be close. 934 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Did you feel in that moment, 935 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000 when you put your hand in the glove, 936 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000 that you were trying on the glove of the person 937 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000 who murdered these two people? 938 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 As you say it now, it is chilling. 939 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000 But I was looking for one thing and one thing only: 940 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000 the size of that glove. 941 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000 So, when O.J. Simpson was asked 942 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000 to try on that glove in that courtroom, 943 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000 did you realize 944 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 it was a critical mistake by the prosecution? 945 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 Here's what I told O.J. Simpson: 946 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,000 "I want you to walk as close to the jury as you can, 947 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,000 "hold up your hand like you're holding the Olympic torch 948 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000 and pull and tug on that glove, because it will not fit." 949 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000 And clearly it didn't. 950 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 (woman) We the jury in the above-entitled action 951 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000 find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, 952 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000 not guilty of the crime of murder. 953 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000 (crowd cheering) 954 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Moments after the verdict, O.J. Simpson leaned over 955 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 and whispered something in your ear. 956 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,000 What did he say? 957 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,000 "You had told me this would be the result from the beginning. 958 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000 You were right." 959 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000 How did you feel when you saw O.J. 960 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000 laughing and posing for pictures 961 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,000 shortly after the verdict? 962 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000 I thought it was inappropriate. 963 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,000 Two people were dead and there should still be some respect, 964 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 certainly for your ex-wife. 965 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Now, when he was arrested 966 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000 for armed robbery and kidnapping, years later, 967 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000 did he call you? 968 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 No. Why not? Do you know? 969 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000 Up to him. 970 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 I wouldn't have taken the case, in any event. 971 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Why? 972 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000 He still owed me money 973 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000 from the first one. 974 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Really? 975 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000 After the verdict, 976 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000 Shapiro went on to create the popular website LegalZoom, 977 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000 fast-food-like legal advice, quick and affordable. 978 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000 We put the law on your side. 979 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,000 But in 2005, Shapiro's life went into a tailspin 980 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,000 when his 24-year-old son Brent died from a drug overdose. 981 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 When you went to the hospital that morning, 982 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,000 did they let you see him? 983 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,000 The most difficult thing that a parent will ever endure 984 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,000 is seeing a child on life support 985 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000 with their eyes taped closed 986 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,000 and standing next to his mother 987 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000 and knowing that you'll never see him again. 988 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000 The Shapiro family channeled their grief 989 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,000 into the Brent Shapiro Foundation, 990 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,000 which lobbied hard for a Good Samaritan law 991 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 that says anyone can report a drug overdose 992 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,000 without fear of getting into trouble themselves. 993 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000 He wants this to be his legacy, 994 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,000 but that's probably not what people will remember him for. 995 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000 What's the takeaway from the Trial of the Century? 996 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000 There's moral justice and there's legal justice. 997 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,000 And when that not-guilty verdict, uh, was rendered, 998 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000 I felt legal justice was done. 999 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000 As far as moral justice, 1000 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,000 I haven't discussed it with anyone, including my wife. 1001 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000 I assume you have been following 1002 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000 the 2016 presidential election. 1003 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Oh, is there an election going on? 1004 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000 Plus, more of my interview with Donald Trump. 1005 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000 Let's have some fun. 1006 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000 Go ahead. Okay. 1007 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,000 ♪ 1008 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Even though his father turns 100 this year, 1009 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,000 no one is particularly concerned about Kirk Douglas's health. 1010 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,000 Michael Douglas, on the other hand, can't sneeze 1011 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000 without someone writing an obit. 1012 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000 In a way, it's a compliment. 1013 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,000 You know you're still relevant 1014 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000 when the tabloids haven't left you alone... for half a century. 1015 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,000 So, I read in the tabloids a few weeks ago 1016 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000 that you only had three months to live. 1017 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Tell me that is not true. 1018 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000 What I love about these tabloids 1019 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000 is they actually call you to check. 1020 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000 They say, "We just know we're going with a story." 1021 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,000 And the story came out, 1022 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,000 and people were calling me saying "Hi, how you doing?" 1023 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000 I said, "Good." They said, "You okay?" 1024 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000 I said, "Yeah, I'm okay." 1025 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Well, I was thinking 1026 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000 when I heard that you had three months to live 1027 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000 and you were sitting for this interview for me 1028 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,000 that maybe I was on your bucket list. 1029 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,000 (laughs) I'm honored! 1030 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000 Tick-tock. (laughs) 1031 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000 Michael Douglas has lived a big life-- 1032 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000 the son of a movie legend who became a movie legend. 1033 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000 A Type A personality, 1034 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,000 he was always the coolest guy in the room... 1035 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000 and a little bit dangerous. 1036 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000 And I mean that in a good way. 1037 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 For 71 years, Michael Douglas 1038 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,000 has had astonishing good fortune 1039 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000 mixed with some very bad luck. 1040 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,000 It hasn't always been easy to watch... 1041 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000 Yeah, I got cancer. 1042 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,000 So, um, I've got cancer. 1043 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,000 I found out about it three weeks ago. 1044 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000 Stage four oral cancer 1045 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,000 has a way of getting your attention, true. 1046 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000 But things are slowly turning around for Michael. 1047 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,000 His son Cameron, after being in prison 1048 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000 for seven long years on drug charges, 1049 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,000 is due to be released next year. 1050 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Marriage to Catherine Zeta-Jones, 1051 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,000 once rumored to be on the rocks, 1052 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,000 seems to have found solid ground. 1053 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,000 And today, Michael is cancer-free. 1054 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,000 You've actually gone through a lot in recent years. 1055 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,000 What would you say was your darkest moment? 1056 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,000 Probably the combination around the time just before my cancer, 1057 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,000 was my oldest son, Cameron, who is 37 now, 1058 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000 has struggled with addiction for most of his life 1059 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000 and was a serious heroin addict, 1060 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,000 which eventually brought him into federal prison. 1061 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000 It broke my heart, the combination, 1062 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,000 when he was sentenced-- I knew the amount of time 1063 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000 he was gonna be spending in federal prison 1064 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,000 combined with my early cancer at the same time. 1065 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000 That was a one-two shot 1066 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,000 that was probably a pretty dark moment. 1067 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000 When he was growing up, you're a big movie star, 1068 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000 you have incredible opportunities 1069 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,000 that nobody else on this earth typically gets. 1070 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,000 I would think it would be tough to look back and regret that. 1071 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,000 But do you? 1072 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Do I have guilts? Absolutely. 1073 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000 You have guilts. We all do. 1074 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000 You're working hard, you've got three young children. 1075 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,000 You're Jewish! You have guilt! 1076 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000 (laughs) Exactly. 1077 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,000 I can relate, I'm Catholic. 1078 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000 Exactly, there you are, exactly. We have it too. 1079 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,000 Now, you're a man who likes to stay on top of things. 1080 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000 How did you feel when you heard Ted Cruz 1081 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000 start to quote the lines you had said 1082 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000 when you played the president 1083 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000 in the film "The American President"? 1084 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000 It was the most déjà-- 1085 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000 the weirdest sensation I, I ever saw. 1086 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,000 And I thought probably one of the most embarrassing. 1087 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,000 When Cruz did that, it was funny. 1088 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Life imitates art. 1089 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000 ♪ 1090 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000 For decades now, Michael Douglas has generally been cast 1091 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,000 as morally, sometimes fatally, flawed. 1092 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,000 He takes your money... 1093 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 I could sell it today for 600. 1094 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,000 ...or your life... 1095 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000 ...cheats on his wife... 1096 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,000 I don't think having dinner with anybody's a crime. 1097 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000 ...seduces your woman... 1098 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000 ...or man... 1099 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,000 Well, this must be fate. 1100 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,000 ...and does it with a smile. 1101 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,000 If he has never been a traditional leading man, 1102 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000 he has committed himself now to leading a traditional life. 1103 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,000 He cls this his third act, 1104 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,000 and he wants it to be different. 1105 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000 He's a U.N. Messenger of Peace, 1106 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,000 concentrating on nuclear disarmament. 1107 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000 We'll see the elimination of weapons. 1108 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000 He's focused on providing support and understanding 1109 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,000 to Jewish people in interfaith marriages, 1110 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000 much like his own. 1111 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,000 And he's still trying to be a good son. 1112 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,000 My father is 99 years old. 1113 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000 I just saw him. 1114 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,000 He's gonna be a hundred-- Wow. 1115 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,000 --in December. 1116 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,000 And I bet you right now 1117 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,000 he's in better shape than he was five years ago. 1118 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,000 He's going to a hundred and two. 1119 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000 (laughs) 1120 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000 He grew this really long ponytail... 1121 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000 halfway down his back. 1122 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,000 I went out this last time and it was gone. 1123 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,000 Little bit like you. 1124 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,000 I was gonna say, I know the feeling. 1125 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000 (laughs) A little bit like you. 1126 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000 And I said, "Dad, what did you do? 1127 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000 You cut-- I loved your-- loved your ponytail, it was great." 1128 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,000 He said, "This makes me look younger." 1129 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,000 He says... 1130 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,000 You've gotta be planning something 1131 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,000 for his hundredth birthday, no? 1132 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000 Well, we talked about it just now-- 1133 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000 he's sort of like, "Well, you know, I mean, it's-- 1134 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,000 It'll be in the afternoon." Yeah. 1135 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000 They say it shouldn't be a surprise party at that level. 1136 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,000 My nana just had one of these-- don't make it a surprise. 1137 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000 How old was-- Hundred years old. 1138 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,000 You're kidding! Mm-hmm. 1139 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,000 I mean, I know he's still married, 1140 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,000 but you know-- she's free. 1141 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,000 So if he has any friends... 1142 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,000 Right, right, right... okay. 1143 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000 A hundred? Yeah. 1144 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,000 Congratulations. 1145 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,000 You've been given a second chance at fatherhood. 1146 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Name one specific thing 1147 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,000 that you're doing differently this time around. 1148 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,000 Listening. 1149 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,000 With the kids now I am a much better listener. 1150 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,000 And one of the things I remember that happened 1151 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,000 is when my mother got together with my stepfather early on 1152 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,000 and he asked me a question one day-- 1153 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,000 he was talking, I was talking and I was pretty... inward-- 1154 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,000 and I looked up and he was listening to me. 1155 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,000 He was actually listening to me. 1156 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000 And I just swelled up and started crying. 1157 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,000 It was the weirdest thing that came over, 1158 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000 just because I had somebody-- a male figure, uh-- 1159 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,000 who listened to me. 1160 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000 So I think it's probably the biggest, is-- 1161 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000 not only with my kids, listening. 1162 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,000 With Catherine, I listen better. 1163 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000 It helps in a marriage too. A lot. 1164 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000 It does. It helps a lot. How is she doing? 1165 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000 She's wonderful. 1166 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,000 She's just great. 1167 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,000 I know you recently went back to the place 1168 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,000 that you proposed to her. 1169 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000 You're getting a little sappy, aren't you? 1170 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000 You're kind of a romantic. 1171 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000 Megyn, you're doing too much homework on all this stuff. 1172 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,000 Come on. I know what I saw. 1173 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,000 I just love her more and more. 1174 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,000 Love can actually become deeper. 1175 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Was there a moment in your life 1176 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000 when you thought, "This is it. 1177 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000 "I am firing on all cylinders. 1178 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,000 This is my moment." 1179 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000 Probably now is, is as close as it comes 1180 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,000 in terms of putting the whole package together, 1181 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000 you know, in terms of your, your personal life 1182 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,000 and I'm still working. 1183 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,000 Getting a chance to talk with you 1184 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,000 on your first, uh, your first show. 1185 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Thank you very much. Excellent. 1186 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,000 Thank you very much. Thank you! 1187 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,000 A shocking admission from Donald Trump when we return. 1188 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000 I knew it! 1189 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,000 ♪ 1190 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000 This clean was like - POW. everything well? I knew it! 1191 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000 It felt like I had just gone to the dentist. 1192 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000 My teeth are glowing. They are so white. 1193 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000 6x cleaning*, 6x whiteningá* 1194 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000 In the certain spots that I get very sensitive... 1195 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000 ...I really notice a difference. 1196 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,000 And at two weeks superior sensitivity relief to Sensodyne 1197 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000 I actually really like the two steps! 1198 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,000 Step 1 cleans and relieves sensitivity, step 2 whitens. 1199 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,000 It's the whole package. 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"All Quiet on the Western Front". 1241 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,000 What was the last book you read? 1242 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,000 Do you get any time to read? 1243 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,000 Oh, no, it's so long, because now I read passages, 1244 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,000 I read, I read areas, I'll read chapters. 1245 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000 I just... I don't have the time. 1246 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,000 You know, when was the last time I watched a baseball game? Mm-hmm. 1247 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,000 I'm watching you all the time, okay? 1248 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000 I knew it! 1249 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,000 I'm watching O'Reilly all the time, 1250 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,000 I'm watching Hannity. Be honest. 1251 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,000 I'm watching Greta... You didn't really boycott. 1252 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,000 Uh... a little bit. 1253 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,000 Not as much as... 1254 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,000 Not as much as I want people to believe. 1255 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,000 But I don't have the time. 1256 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000 I would love to sit down and read a book, 1257 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000 but I just don't have the time anymore. 1258 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,000 Well, in addition to "The Kelly File," 1259 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000 I have been working on a project, 1260 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,000 a book which I'm unveiling right now. 1261 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,000 It's called "Settle for More"-- 1262 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,000 my life motto ever since I was an unhappy lawyer years ago. 1263 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000 The book shows how I did just that, 1264 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,000 with some tears and laughs along the way. 1265 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000 And, yes, for the first time, 1266 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,000 I will speak openly about my year with Donald Trump. 1267 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,000 You can pre-order it now wherever books are sold. 1268 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000 It hits stores November 15th. 1269 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000 My thanks to Donald Trump, 1270 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,000 Laverne Cox, Robert Shapiro, and Michael Douglas 1271 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,000 for sitting down with me on my first special. 1272 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,000 And thank you all for watching. 1273 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,000 Good night. 1274 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,000 Is it even tougher when you're with Catherine? 1275 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,000 Then it's the double. 1276 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,000 I mean, a little bit, but I mean... 1277 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000 that's a high-quality product. 1278 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:51,000 ♪ 1279 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,000 ...part of the spear? 1280 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,000 You are at the pointy part of the spear, my friend. 1281 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,000 (laughing) 1282 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,000 It's great. 1283 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,000 Oh, yeah, sorry. 1284 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000 We're having such a good time. 1285 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,000 Watch the whole thing. 1286 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,000 People love... 1287 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,000 First of all, it's different. Yes, yes. 1288 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,000 They love the rink, they love the Grand Hyatt... 1289 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,000 Well, it's interesting to hear you talk about, 1290 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,000 >>> WELCOME TO THIS SPECIAL 1291 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000 EDITION OF "HANNITY: CLINTON 1292 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000 VERSUS TRUMP." 1293 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,000 THESE TWO CANDIDATES APPEAR TO 1294 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,000 BE HEADED FOR A HISTORIC CLASH 1295 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,000 IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. 1296 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,000 TONIGHT FOR THE HOUR, WE'RE 1297 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,000 GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT A CLINTON 1298 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,000 VERSUS TRUMP 2016 MATCHUP WOULD 1299 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,000 LOOK LIKE. TAKE A LOOK. 1300 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,000 ♪ 1301 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000 >> HE DOESN'T MIND IF OTHER COUNTRIES GET NUCLEAR WEAPONS. 1302 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,000 HE HAS SAID, LET'S GO BACK TO 1303 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,000 TORTURING PEOPLE. >> I HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED WITH 1304 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,000 CROOKED HILLARY YET. WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED. 1305 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,000 >> WHAT TRUMP SAYS ABOUT FOREIGN 1306 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,000 POLICY IS NOT JUST OFFENSIVE,