HARVEY LEVIN: THE OBJECTS PEOPLE
KEEP IN THEIR HOME DEFINE
WHO THEY ARE.
THIS IS "OBJECTIFIED:
DONALD TRUMP."
THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT.
I'M HARVEY LEVIN. YOU'RE ABOUT
TO SEE DONALD TRUMP LIKE YOU'VE
NEVER SEEN HIM BEFORE--IN HIS
HOME, TALKING ABOUT HIS LIFE,
THE HIGH POINTS AND THE LOW.
TOLD THROUGH TREASURED OBJECTS
HE'S CHOSEN TO KEEP. I SAT DOWN
WITH TRUMP A MONTH AND A HALF
AGO IN HIS PENTHOUSE HIGH ABOVE
FIFTH AVENUE IN TRUMP TOWER.
[CROWD CHANTING "USA, USA"]
WE WANT YOU TO SEE THE NEXT
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES--
THE FATHER, THE ASPIRING MOVIE
PRODUCER, THE SPORTS FANATIC,
THE MAN WHO STILL GRIEVES OVER
HIS BROTHER'S DEATH, AND THE
FUTURE POLITICIAN.
OPRAH WINFREY: THIS SOUNDS LIKE
POLITICAL PRESIDENTIAL TALK.
LEVIN: WHO WAS SECRETLY EGGED ON
BY A UNITED STATES PRESIDENT.
SO, I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. OK. SO,
YOU KNOW, YOU GET ON--ONSTAGE
AND YOU DO SPEECHES EVERY DAY.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
DONALD TRUMP THE GUY WHO BECAME
WHAT YOU ARE TODAY AND HOW THAT
HAPPENED. BUT IT'S GONNA BE TOLD
THROUGH OBJECTS THAT SPAN FROM
YOUR CHILDHOOD UNTIL NOW.
SO, I'D LIKE TO START. I'M GONNA
GO PICK A PICTURE. I'M GONNA
FIND YOU YOUNG AND I'LL BE
RIGHT BACK.
TRUMP: OK.
LEVIN: I'M ASSUMING THIS IS YOU.
TRUMP: YEAH.
LEVIN: SO, HOW OLD
WERE YOU THEN?
TRUMP: WHAT DO YOU THINK? IT LOOKS, LIKE 3, HUH? MAYBE 3?
LEVIN: WERE YOU RICH THEN?
TRUMP: YEAH. MY FATHER WAS A
BUILDER.
LEVIN: RIGHT. TRUMP: AND HE WAS A VERY GOOD
BUILDER, TOO. HE KNEW HOW TO
BUILD A HOUSE. AND WHEN HE
SOLD THE HOUSE ... THEY STILL
TELL ME, "I LIVED IN A HOUSE
YOUR FATHER BUILT."
LEVIN: RIGHT. DID YOU LIVE
OPULENTLY AS A KID?
TRUMP: NO, BECAUSE QUEENS IS,
YOU KNOW, QUEENS IS, YOU MIGHT
HAVE--I'M SURE YOU HAVE A LOT OF
FRIENDS THAT GREW UP IN QUEENS.
SO, IT WASN'T OPULENT BUT IT WAS
GOOD. IT WAS A GREAT
ENVIRONMENT. VERY DIFFERENT, I
THINK, MAYBE, THAN TODAY, BUT
IT WAS A GREAT ENVIRONMENT.
LEVIN: HOW SO? BECAUSE YOU ARE
THE--YOU ARE A VERY MANHATTAN
KIND OF GUY.
TRUMP: I VIEW IT SO DIFFERENTLY.
HERE WE SIT OVERLOOKING CENTRAL
PARK. NOW WHEN I GO THERE,
IT SEEMS VERY QUAINT. EVERY
ONCE IN A WHILE, I'LL GO... LEVIN: AND YOU DON'T SEEM LIKE
A QUAINT GUY.
TRUMP: WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M
MORE QUAINT THAN YOU WOULD
THINK. SOMETIMES ON MY WAY OUT
TO WHEREVER I MAY BE GOING, I'LL
STOP. BECAUSE IT'S AN EXIT,
RIGHT? UTOPIA PARKWAY.
LEVIN: RIGHT.
TRUMP: AND I GET OFF THE EXIT
AND I'LL STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AT
MY HOUSE WHERE I GREW UP WITH MY
PARENTS AND BROTHERS AND SISTERS
AND HAD A GOOD EARLY LIFE.
LEVIN: WERE YOU SPOILED?
TRUMP: PROBABLY.
LEVIN: HOW SO?
TRUMP: WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAD
PARENTS WHO SPOILED ME. MY
FATHER WAS TOUGH. MY MOTHER
MAYBE IN HER OWN WAY WAS
TOUGHER, BUT SHE SPOILED ME.
LEVIN: I UNDERSTAND YOU ACTUALLY
WORKED AS A CHILD.
TRUMP: I DID.
LEVIN: A PAPER ROUTE?
TRUMP: I DID. I DID THE PAPER
THING. I CLEANED LAUNDRY ROOMS
BECAUSE MY FATHER HAD A BUILDING
OR SOMETHING. WE HAD A LITTLE LAUNDRY ROOM.
LEVIN: RIGHT.
TRUMP: AND COLLECT SOMETIMES
THE COINS FROM THE MACHINE.
LEVIN: I READ THAT WHEN IT
RAINED, YOU TOOK YOUR DAD'S
LIMO TO DELIVER PAPERS.
TRUMP: NO, THAT IS A STORY
THAT'S OUT THERE. I DON'T
BELIEVE SO.
LEVIN: THERE IS A STORY OUT
ABOUT A MUSIC TEACHER YOU DIDN'T
THINK KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT MUSIC
AND YOU HIT THE MUSIC TEACHER
BECAUSE YOU WERE LIKE, "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING."
TRUMP: WELL, IT GETS A
LITTLE EXAGGERATED.
LEVIN: BUT YOU WERE
STRONG-WILLED.
TRUMP: YEAH, I WAS
STRONG-WILLED. YEAH,
THAT STORY IS VERY EXAGGERATED.
THAT STORY IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. I HATE THAT STORY. BUT
NO, THAT'S NOT
SOMETHING I WOULD DO.
LEVIN: HOW WERE YOU PUNISHED AS
A KID? I MENTION IT BECAUSE YOUR
DAD WAS A DISCIPLINARIAN.
TRUMP: HE WAS, AND SO WAS MY
MOTHER, BUT THE WOODEN SPOON,
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU USE TO STIR?
MY MOTHER WOULD SAY, "OH, I'M
GONNA GET THE WOODEN SPOON," BUT
SHE'D NEVER USE IT.
SHE WAS A TALKER IN THAT SENSE.
LEVIN: SO, YOU NEVER--THERE WAS
NO CORPORAL PUNISHMENT. TRUMP: NO, NO, THERE WEREN'T--
THAT WASN'T THEIR WORLD.
THEY WERE FIRM.
LEVIN: RIGHT.
TRUMP: LOVING. GREAT PARENTS.
MY FATHER WAS A VERY STRONG GUY
BUT HE WAS A VERY LOVING GUY.
VERY GOOD GUY. VERY KIND. VERY
BIG HEART. YOU KNOW,
BUT A TOUGH GUY.
LEVIN: SO, FOR THE FIRST 12
YEARS OF YOUR LIFE, WHAT'S YOUR
TAKEAWAY FROM IT? I MEAN, WHAT
KIND OF STICKS WITH YOU TODAY?
TRUMP: I THINK I REALIZE THE
VALUE OF HAVING GREAT FAMILY,
GREAT PARENTS. I HAD
GREAT PARENTS.
[DRUMBEAT]
TRUMP: SUCCESS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT THING. IT'S CERTAINLY
BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. AND I
CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE
GREAT CHOICES I EVER MADE IN
TERMS OF SUCCESS WAS THE CHOICE
OF GOING TO NYMA--NEW YORK
MILITARY ACADEMY. THIS IS
AN OLD YEARBOOK FROM WHERE I
WENT TO SCHOOL. HERE'S MY
PICTURE.
LEVIN: HA!
TRUMP: SORT OF FUNNY.
LEVIN: WOW, YOU ARE--YOU ARE
FULL MILITARY THERE.
TRUMP: NO, THAT WAS A REALLY
GOOD PLACE, ACTUALLY, YEAH.
I MET PEOPLE UP THERE. ONE OF
THEM WAS A DRILL SERGEANT, I
GUESS, AND HE WAS ROUGH. AND I
REMEMBER THE FIRST DAY I WENT UP
AND HE SAID, "STAND UP AT
ATTENTION" TO EVERYBODY.
AND I'M GOING LIKE, "OH,
GIVE ME A BREAK."
LEVIN: HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN
YOU WENT TO MILITARY SCHOOL?
TRUMP: I WAS THERE 5 YEARS, SO,
I WENT TO--THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL,
SO, I GRADUATED, I GUESS, AROUND
17, SOMETHING.
LEVIN: SO, YOU WERE THERE--
13--YOU WENT TO MILITARY SCHOOL.
WHERE WAS IT?
TRUMP: RIGHT, AND IT WAS UPSTATE
NEW YORK, CALLED NEW YORK
MILITARY ACADEMY. GOOD PLACE.
LEVIN: BUT YOUR FAMILY STILL
LIVED IN QUEENS.
TRUMP: THEY STILL LIVED IN
QUEENS. LEVIN: WHY'D YOU GO?
TRUMP: WELL, MY FATHER THOUGHT
IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR
DISCIPLINE REASONS.
LEVIN: THAT'S A PRETTY EXTREME
THING, TO SEND YOUR KID AWAY
TO UPSTATE NEW YORK. WHAT KIND
OF DISCIPLINE PROBLEMS
WERE YOU HAVING?
TRUMP: WELL, I WAS JUST SOMEBODY
THAT WAS REBELLIOUS. COMPARED TO
WHAT YOU'RE READING ABOUT TODAY,
THIS IS MINOR STUFF,
BUT I WAS REBELLIOUS.
LEVIN: HOW DID THAT
REBELLIOUSNESS MANIFEST ITSELF?
TRUMP: WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW,
IN CLASS, I WAS A SMART PERSON,
BUT I WOULD BE VERY
RAMBUNCTIOUS. I'D TALK
WAY OUT OF TURN.
LEVIN: DID YOU RESENT YOUR DAD
WHEN HE SENT YOU?
TRUMP: NO, NOT AT ALL.
I UNDERSTOOD.
LEVIN: DID HE SIT YOU DOWN
AND SAY, "HERE'S WHY"?
TRUMP: WELL, HE SAID, "I WANT TO SHAPE YOU UP."
LEVIN: I WANT TO GET INTO YOUR
HEAD JUST A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY, LOOK, I MEAN, KIDS
REBEL AND YOUR DAD OBVIOUSLY
FELT AT A POINT...
TRUMP: YEAH. LEVIN: YOU NEEDED THAT KIND OF
STRUCTURE.
TRUMP: YEAH, I MEAN, MAYBE--YOU
JUST MENTIONED THE WORD.
IT WAS "STRUCTURE."
IT WAS GREAT STRUCTURE FOR ME.
IT STRUCTURALIZED MY THINKING
AND MY LIFE. IT HAD A GOOD
IMPACT ON ME. I WAS ABLE TO
GET IT. ... I WAS A CAPTAIN.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD--I GRADUATED
AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL
IN TERMS OF A MILITARY RANK.
I WAS THE CAPTAIN OF THE
BASEBALL TEAM AND I WAS ALWAYS,
YOU KNOW, GOOD AT THAT STUFF.
I LOVED THE ENVIRONMENT.
THAT WHOLE MILITARY ENVIRONMENT.
TO THIS DAY, I HAVE A FEELING
FOR THE MILITARY, AND I GUESS
MAYBE IT WAS PARTIALLY
BECAUSE OF THAT.
LEVIN: TELL ME ABOUT THE CAR.
TRUMP: WELL, IT'S BARRON'S CAR.
BARRON WHEN HE WAS LITTLE.
LEVIN: YEAH, THIS IS NOT BARRON'S CAR TODAY, BECAUSE
BARRON'S 5' 10" AND
10 YEARS OLD.
TRUMP: YEAH. THAT WAS HIS CAR
WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE BOY.
LEVIN: YOU HAVE RAISED KIDS WHO
EVERYBODY SAYS, WHETHER THEY
SUPPORT YOU OR OPPOSE YOU, THEY
ALL SAY ALL OF YOUR KIDS ARE
GREAT, THEY'RE FOCUSED, THEY'RE
SUCCESSFUL, AND THEY LOVE YOU.
TRUMP: YEAH. I HAVE GREAT KIDS.
MAN: I THINK BEING TRUMPS AND
HAVING THE TRUMP GENETICS, WE'VE
WANTED TO BE IN THIS FAMILY
BUSINESS REALLY SINCE ALMOST
WE WERE BORN.
WOMAN: I THINK STARTING VERY
EARLY JUST SPENDING A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF TIME WATCHING HIM
ENGAGED IN BUSINESS WAS--
WAS VERY HELPFUL.
LEVIN: HOW DO YOU SCORE
100% ON THAT?
HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
TRUMP: WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S
ALSO--I DON'T KNOW. IT'S ALSO--
AND SO IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, YOU
CAN BE STRICT, YOU CAN LAY DOWN
THE RULES. YOU HAVE TO BE--
YOU ARE BORN A CERTAIN WAY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE BORN, YOU HAVE
SMART CHILDREN, YOU DON'T HAVE
SMART CHILDREN. YOU LOVE THEM
THE SAME. AND THERE'S SOMETHING
VERY NICE ABOUT THAT. THERE
REALLY IS SOMETHING NICE
ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO MAKE CHILDREN
UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THE
DOLLAR. THE VALUE OF WORK.
THE VALUE OF MONEY.
THE VALUE OF ACHIEVEMENT.
LEVIN: DO YOU THINK THAT'S
REALLY CRITICAL IN TERMS OF
HOW YOUR KIDS TURNED OUT?
TRUMP: HARVEY, IT'S SO
IMPORTANT. THEY HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND VALUES AND THEY HAVE
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS
TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
MAN: I DIDN'T HAVE A
CONVENTIONAL FATHER-SON
RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER
GROWING UP. WE DIDN'T GO PLAY
BALL. I FOLLOWED HIM AROUND JOB
SITES AND REAL ESTATE AND
WATCHING HIM DO THESE THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, NOW I'M WORKING.
IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN THE
CULMINATION OF ALL OF THAT
EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE AND
GETTING TO WORK WITH HIM
HAND-IN-HAND, THAT'S JUST BEEN
AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
LEVIN: DO YOU SPOIL YOUR KIDS?
TRUMP: I GUESS THEY'RE SPOILED,
BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T LET THEM
BELIEVE TOO MUCH. WHEN YOU GROW
UP IN A PLACE LIKE THIS AND
YOU--YOU SEE LIFE FROM MAYBE
A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE, BUT
I TRY NOT TO SPOIL THEM.
LEVIN: SO, BARRON. IS HE
KIND OF CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH
AS YOUR OTHER KIDS OR IS HE
A LITTLE DIFFERENT?
TRUMP: I THINK HE'S VERY
SIMILAR. HE'S SMART AND STRONG
AND GOOD. HE'S GOT A GOOD HEART.
LEVIN: STRONG-WILLED.
TRUMP: STRONG-WILLED, YES.
LEVIN: HE IS HIS DAD.
THEY CALL HIM "LITTLE DONALD"
AROUND HERE.
TRUMP: OH, REALLY? WELL, I DON'T
KNOW, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT
WISH THAT ON HIM.
LEVIN: HA HA!
TRUMP: BUT HE'S--HE'S A GOOD GUY.
LEVIN: HE CAN'T GO ON THE
INTERNET, RIGHT? TRUMP: HE ACTUALLY DOES. I MEAN,
HE'S PRETTY ADVANCED, I'LL TELL
YOU WHAT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE
COMPUTERS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU
TALK ABOUT BULLYING AND CYBER
BULLYING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT
KIDS HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
I THINK IT'S A LOT TOUGHER
FOR CHILDREN TODAY.
LEVIN: HOW'S HE DOING?
TRUMP: HE'S DOING GOOD. I HOPE.
LEVIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
HAVE HARD RULES FOR YOUR KIDS.
TRUMP: NO DRUGS, NO ALCOHOL,
NO CIGARETTES.
LEVIN: I HEAR YOU ADDED
NO TATTOOS.
TRUMP: THE THING IS, LOOK,
I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS THAT HAVE
TATTOOS. WOULD I DO IT, NO,
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD.
LEVIN: HOW INVOLVED ARE YOU
IN CHILDREARING?
TRUMP: NOT TOO MUCH. I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY A LOT. I TALK TO ALL
MY CHILDREN, BUT NOT IN THE
SENSE OF THAT MUCH INVOLVEMENT.
NOTHING I'M PROUD OF, I JUST--
THE MOTHERS HAVE DONE
SUCH A GOOD JOB.
THIS IS THE CHAIR THAT I USED
IN THE BOARDROOM OF "THE
APPRENTICE." WE HAD A LOT OF
GOOD LUCK WITH THIS CHAIR.
14 SEASONS.
LEVIN: IF IT WEREN'T FOR
THIS SHOW, WOULD YOU BE IN A
POSITION TO RUN
AND DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE?
TRUMP: I DON'T KNOW. A LOT OF
PEOPLE ASK THAT QUESTION.
IT MAY HAVE HELPED ME DEVELOP
A CERTAIN SKILL.
LEVIN: WHAT IS THAT SKILL?
ARE YOU A SORE LOSER?
TRUMP: I DON'T WANT TO LOSE IT, HARVEY. JUST DON'T WANT TO
BE THE ONE.
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TRUMP: WELCOME TO THE BOARDROOM.
IT WON'T BE EASY, BUT YOU'RE
GONNA HAVE SOME INTERESTING
EXPERIENCES.
THIS IS THE CHAIR THAT I USED
IN THE BOARDROOM OF
"THE APPRENTICE." AND WE HAD A
LOT OF GOOD LUCK WITH THIS
CHAIR. 14 SEASONS.
I THINK THAT IS SO STUPID...
YOU'RE FIRED. GO.
MAN: OK. ALL RIGHT.
TRUMP: TERRIBLE.
LEVIN: IF IT WEREN'T FOR
THIS SHOW, WOULD YOU BE IN A
POSITION TO RUN AND
DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE?
TRUMP: I DON'T KNOW. A LOT OF
PEOPLE ASK THAT QUESTION.
LEVIN: IT CHANGED YOU.
TRUMP: WELL, IT MAY HAVE.
LEVIN: IT CHANGED THE PERCEPTION
OF YOU IN THE PUBLIC.
TRUMP: ARE YOU READY?
[ALL TALKING AT ONCE]
TRUMP: BUT BEFORE WE FIND OUT
WHO WON. YOU KNOW IT IS MY HAIR.
YOU KNOW THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
AND IT MAY HAVE HELPED ME
DEVELOP A CERTAIN SKILL.
TELEVISION. WHO KNOWS, FOR
WHATEVER THAT IS. BUT I WILL SAY
VERY, VERY STRONGLY THAT IF IT
WEREN'T FOR "THE APPRENTICE,"
I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN TO ME
A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
LEVIN: YOU SAY YOU DEVELOPED
A SKILL FROM THE SHOW.
UM...THAT TRANSLATES
INTO POLITICS.
WHAT IS THAT SKILL?
TRUMP: WELL, I THOUGHT I HAD
THAT SKILL AT THE VERY BEGINNING, FROM THE FIRST
EPISODE. I WANT TO PASS ALONG MY
KNOWLEDGE TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
I'M LOOKING FOR THE APPRENTICE.
LEVIN: BUT SOMEHOW, IT CONNECTED
WITH PEOPLE. TRUMP: I FEEL THAT THAT'S A
NATURAL TALENT AND--BUT YOU CAN
ALWAYS GET BETTER AT SOMETHING,
HARVEY. AND NOW ARNOLD WILL DO
THE SHOW AND WE'LL SEE HOW
ARNOLD DOES.
ARNOLD: LET'S GET DOWN TO
BUSINESS.
LEVIN: YOU COME OFF ON THAT SHOW
AS A SUPREMELY CONFIDENT
DECISION-MAKER WHO IS
GRUFF AND TOUGH.
MAN: TO ME, I'M BACK HERE AS A
FIGHTER. I'M BACK HERE
AS A WINNER.
TRUMP: BUT BRET, YOU'VE BEEN A WINNER. YOU ARE A WINNER.
YOU'RE GREAT. BRET,
YOU'RE FIRED.
LEVIN: AND NO NONSENSE AND IT'S
MY WAY AND IT'S THE HIGHWAY.
TRUMP: WOULDN'T YOU SAY YOU
CROSSED THE LINE?
MAN: UM...I CROSSED THE LINE.
TRUMP: THIS IS WHY THE COUNTRY'S
GOTTEN INTO SUCH TROUBLE.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THINKING
THAT WE'VE BEEN WITNESSING ON
WALL STREET FOR THE LAST
5 YEARS.
LEVIN: DID THAT CARRY OVER
TO POLITICS?
TRUMP: I THINK THAT WHAT YOU
HAVE TO DO IN SHOW BUSINESS AND
IN POLITICS IS BE YOURSELF,
AND--UNLESS YOU'RE PLAYING
ANOTHER CHARACTER, BUT IN MY
CASE, I WAS PLAYING MYSELF, SO,
YOU KNOW, I HAD SORT OF AN EASY
JOB. ALL I HAD TO DO IS BE
MYSELF. YOU'VE BEEN LAZY. YOU'VE
BEEN NOTHING BUT TROUBLE. YOU
CLAIMED TO BE LIKE ME. THE
DIFFERENCE IS I WORK HARD.
THE SHOW, TO ME, IT WAS--IT WAS
JUST--IT WAS A GREAT HONOR
TO HAVE DONE IT. 14 SEASONS.
THAT'S A LONG TIME. AND I WILL
SAY THIS, HARVEY, TURNING IT
DOWN WAS ONE OF THE--TURNING
DOWN A CONTINUATION WAS A TOUGH
DECISION FOR ME. THAT WAS A--
ONE OF THE TOUGHER DECISIONS.
I REMEMBER MARK BURNETT SAID,
"THEY WANT TO RENEW YOU."
EVERYBODY IN SHOW BUSINESS SAYS
YES. I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY
NO? BUT I SAID NO. I DON'T WANT
TO BE RENEWED. WE ARE
GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
GET LUCKY.
LEVIN: WHAT IS THIS?
TRUMP: IT'S A CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP
TROPHY, AND--
LEVIN: THAT YOU WON.
TRUMP: YEAH. I'VE WON A LOT OF
CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS OVER
THE YEARS.
LEVIN: SPORTS HAS BEEN A
BIG PART OF YOUR LIFE.
TRUMP: YES.
LEVIN: WHY HAS IT JUST CONNECTED
WITH YOU THE WAY IT--THE WAY IT
HAS BECAUSE YOU ARE INTENSELY
A SPORTS GUY.
TRUMP: I'VE ALWAYS LOVED PLAYING
SPORTS AND I'VE ALWAYS LOVED
MAYBE THE COMPETITION OF SPORTS.
BUT IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR ME. IT'S
BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR ME, I
THINK, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
WAYS, BUT SPORTS TO ME
IS VERY IMPORTANT.
MAN: BATTER UP. BATTER UP.
[CROWD CHEERING]
LEVIN: HAS IT HELPED YOU WITH
DISCIPLINE AND KIND OF JUST
GETTING THINGS DONE?
TRUMP: YEAH, PROBABLY SO.
I MEAN, WHO REALLY KNOWS?
I DON'T THINK OF IT IN THAT WAY.
I DO IT BECAUSE I ENJOY IT,
WHETHER IT'S TENNIS OR GOLF OR
WHATEVER YOU MAY PLAY. YOU KNOW,
AS YOU GET OLDER, YOU SORT
OF--YOUR CHOICES ARE MORE
LIMITED. YOU CAN'T PUT TOGETHER,
LIKE, 18 PEOPLE ON A BASEBALL
FIELD. BUT I'VE JUST ALWAYS
LOVED BEING A SPORTSMAN OR
PLAYING SPORTS.
♪ FOR IT'S 1, 2, 3 STRIKES
YOU'RE OUT AT THE OLD
BALL GAME ♪
LEVIN: YOU ADMIRE ATHLETES.
TRUMP: WELL, I RESPECT ATHLETES.
I RESPECT WINNERS. I RESPECT
GREAT ATHLETES, AND SOME--
YOU KNOW, YOU LEARN SO MUCH
FROM SPORTS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST
SORT OF A MICROCOSM OF LIFE,
EXCEPT ONE THING--YOU HAVE A
WINNER AND YOU HAVE A LOSER
AND IT TAKES PLACE IN A SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME. WITH LIFE, IT'S
MEANDERING. YOU DON'T KNOW
AND YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
IT IS AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO
WINS, WHO LOSES, BUT IT IS
A MICROCOSM OF LIFE.
LEVIN: WHAT ABOUT TOM BRADY?
YOU SEEM TO CONNECT WITH HIM.
TRUMP: WELL, HE'S A FRIEND OF
MINE. HE'S A GREAT GUY AND HE'S
A GREAT ATHLETE, OBVIOUSLY,
BUT HE'S A WINNER.
REPORTER: HE'S A GUY WHO LIKES
WINNING LIKE YOU. YOU THINK
HE'S GOT WHAT IT TAKES?
BRADY: I HOPE SO.
THAT'D BE GREAT.
BE A PUTTING GREEN ON THE WHITE
HOUSE LAWN, I'M SURE OF THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
LEVIN: WHAT DID YOU THINK OF
DEFLATEGATE?
TRUMP: WELL, YOU KNOW, HE PLAYED
BETTER WHEN HE HAD THE OTHER
BALL. I THINK TOM IS TOTALLY
INNOCENT. I THINK TOM IS--
FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW HIM. HE'S SUCH AN HONORABLE GUY. AND I'M
WITH HIM ALL THE WAY.
LEVIN: SHAQ HAS ACTUALLY SAID
THAT YOU INTIMIDATE HIM.
SHAQ: DONALD'S LIKE A STRAIGHT-UP GUY. LIKE, IF HE
SEES YOUR SHIRT TUCKED OUT,
HE WON'T ... HE'LL BE LIKE,
"TUCK YOUR [BLEEP] SHIRT IN." TRUMP: I DON'T THINK ANYBODY
INTIMIDATES SHAQ, OK?
INCLUDING ME.
LEVIN: YOU'VE USED GOLF
TO REALLY KIND OF CEMENT DEALS
AND DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS.
WOULD YOU END UP USING GOLF
AS A WAY OF KIND OF CEMENTING
RELATIONSHIPS WITH LEADERS?
TRUMP: WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW.
I MUST SAY I'VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING
SO MUCH I'VE PLAYED VERY LITTLE
GOLF OVER THE LAST--
PRETTY LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
LEVIN: SO, YOU'RE ABOUT TO
TELL ME YOU'D LOSE?
TRUMP: GOLF--GOLF ... RIGHT NOW.
GOLF IS A VERY--IT'S A GREAT
GAME FOR GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE,
BOTH GOOD AND BAD, BY THE WAY.
YOU CAN LEARN SOME BAD THINGS
ABOUT PEOPLE, BUT MOSTLY GOOD.
YOU CAN NEVER, EVER GET TO KNOW
PEOPLE AT LUNCH OR DINNER
LIKE YOU CAN ON A GOLF COURSE.
LEVIN: THE PHILLIES AND RED SOX
SCOUTED YOU AT A POINT. YOU WERE
A GREAT BASEBALL PLAYER.
HAD YOU BEEN PICKED TO JOIN
THE TEAM, EITHER ONE, WOULD YOU
HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD OF
GOING INTO BUSINESS?
TRUMP: I LOVE BASEBALL. LOOK, I
JUST LOVE SPORTS. BUT I WAS A
GOOD BASEBALL PLAYER. I DON'T
KNOW. I THINK PROBABLY NOT.
I GUESS NOT. WELL, I REMEMBER
I WAS HAVING SOME TRYOUTS AND
THERE WERE SOME PLAYERS THAT
ACTUALLY MADE THE MAJOR LEAGUES
AND THEY WERE WITH ME, AND I
REMEMBER SAYING TO MY FRIENDS,
"THEY ARE VERY GOOD." YOU KNOW,
SO, YOU NEVER KNOW.
I MEAN, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. LEVIN: WELL, IF YOU HAD THE
SHOT, I MEAN, BAD NEWS--
TRUMP: LOOK, WHEN YOU'RE 20
YEARS OLD OR YOU'RE 18 YEARS
OLD, YOU'D PROBABLY SAY
ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW?
LEVIN: ARE YOU A SORE LOSER
IN SPORTS?
TRUMP: WELL, I DON'T LIKE
LOSING. I DON'T THINK I'M A SORE
LOSER. YOU KNOW, IT'S
INTERESTING--IF SOMEBODY ELSE
PLAYS GREAT OR DOES SOMETHING
GREAT, I FEEL MUCH BETTER THAN
IF I LOSE IT.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE IT, HARVEY.
YOU KNOW THAT FEELING. YOU JUST
DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE.
I'VE NEVER HAD A DRINK
BECAUSE OF MY BROTHER.
LEVIN: DOES IT WORRY YOU
THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT GENE?
DOES IT SCARE YOU?
TRUMP: I DO HAVE A PERSONALITY
THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D
CARRY ME OUT OF THIS ROOM
ONE DAY, OK.
LEVIN: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
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HEADQUARTERS, I'M KRISTIN
FISHER. TRAGEDY IN SYRIA THIS
THANKSGIVING DAY.
AN AMERICAN SOLDIER KILLED IN
THE WAR-TORN COUNTRY.
U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND SAYS THE
SOLDIER DIED WHEN AN IMPROVISED
EXPLOSIVE BLUE UP.
HE IS BELIEVED TO BE THE FIRST
U.S. CASUALTY SINCE THE START OF
THE GROUND WAR IN SYRIA.
THE U.S. LED AIR COALITION ALSO
PROVIDING SUPPORT.
AND IN IRAQ, AN ISIS CAR BOMB
KILLS AT LEAST 56 PEOPLE
INCLUDING 20 IRANIANS.
THE BOMB EX PLOELDED AT A GAS
STATION SOUTH OF BAGHDAD.
AUTHORITIES SAY AT LEAST ANOTHER
45 PEOPLE WERE INJURED.
MOST OF THE DEAD AND INJURED WERE SHIITES.
THE GAS STATION DESTROYED AND
SEVERAL CARS SET ON FIRE.
2016 MACY'S THANKSGIVING DAY
PARADE IS NOW HISTORY.
A MASSIVE SECURITY PRESENCE KEPT
THE PARADE SAFE FOR THE MILLIONS
LINING THE STREETS OF NEW YORK
CITY.
ONE WOMAN SAID THERE WERE SO
MANY POLICE OFFICERS SHE SAID,
YOU COULDN'T HELP BUT FEEL SAFE.
MORE THAN 3,000 OFFICERS ON THE
STREETS AND IN THE AIR PROTECTED
THE PARADE OF BALLOONS AND
FLOATS. A GIANT CHARLIE BROWN BALLOON
GOT THE PARADE STARTED.
OF COURSE, IT'S BLACK FRIDAY.
COMPETITION INTENSE THIS HOLIDAY
SEASON, WITH THOUSANDS OF
AMERICANS HITTING THE STORES
TODAY TO GET A JUMP ON BLACK
FRIDAY STARTING.
MER KMANTS LIKE MACY'S, JCPENNY
OPENING THEIR DOORS AFTER 5:00
THIS EVENING.
EVERY CHEERFUL MOTHER ON THE
BRADY BUNCH HAS DIED.
HER MANAGER SAID SHE WAS
SURROUNDED BY FRIENDS AND
FAMILY.
FLORENCE HENDERSON WAS 82 YEARS
OLD. I'M KRISTIN FISHER.
THOSE WERE YOUR HEADLINES.
NOW BACK TO "OBJECTIFIED, DONALD
TRUMP."
LEVIN: SO, THOSE ARE YOUR
BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
TRUMP: RIGHT.
LEVIN: YOU GOT A BIG FAMILY.
TRUMP: WELL, A GREAT FAMILY.
5--IN TERMS OF CHILDREN, 5.
AND A GREAT FATHER AND A
GREAT MOTHER.
LEVIN: FREDDY IS STANDING
IN THE MIDDLE THERE. TRUMP: RIGHT.
LEVIN: TELL ME ABOUT FREDDY.
TRUMP: UNBELIEVABLE PERSONALITY.
THE BEST. A VERY HANDSOME GUY.
EVERYBODY LOVED HIM.
MUCH BETTER PERSON THAN ME, I
GUESS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN,
IN A LOT OF WAYS.
LEVIN: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?
TRUMP: WELL, HE JUST HAD A TREMENDOUS HEART. AND I HAVE
HEART. YOU KNOW, I LOVE PEOPLE.
BUT HE HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS
VERY SPECIAL, AND SMART.
HE HAD THE WHOLE PACKAGE, AND HE
GOT INTO TROUBLE WITH THE
ALCOHOL.
LEVIN: HE REALLY BECAME,
YOU KNOW, HORRIBLY
ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL. TRUMP: WELL, HE DID AND HE,
YOU KNOW, HE DIED OF THAT,
AND--AND I TELL PEOPLE. I TELL
MY FAMILY. WE CAN NOT TALK ABOUT
IT OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. I
THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING BY
TALKING ABOUT IT IS FREDDY IS--
IS REALLY HELPING PEOPLE.
HE'S REALLY A LEGACY. HE'S
HELPING PEOPLE. BECAUSE I'VE
NEVER HAD A DRINK BECAUSE OF MY
BROTHER. IF YOU DON'T START,
YOU'RE NEVER GONNA HAVE A
PROBLEM. IF YOU DO START,
YOU MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM.
AND IT'S A TOUGH PROBLEM
TO STOP.
LEVIN: DID YOU TRY TO
HELP HIM STOP?
TRUMP: OH, YEAH, WE TRIED TO
HELP HIM AND IT WAS JUST A
VERY--YOU KNOW, IT WAS A VERY
TOUGH PERIOD OF TIME. WE TRIED
TO HELP HIM.
LEVIN: HE DIED AT 42, REALLY,
FROM ALCOHOLISM.
HOW DID IT AFFECT YOU?
TRUMP: AMAZINGLY, BECAUSE IT'S
NOT A NATURAL PROGRESSION. YOU
KNOW, YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR YOUNG
BROTHER WITH SO MUCH LIFE AND SO
MANY--YOU KNOW, SO MUCH
POTENTIAL.
LEVIN: YOU ARE REALLY ADAMANT
ABOUT THAT WITH YOUR KIDS, I
KNOW. DONALD JR., YOUR SON,
HAS BEEN OPEN THAT DURING
COLLEGE, HE DRANK TOO MUCH,
AND HE DECIDED TO STOP. DID IT
SCARE YOU WHEN HE
STARTED DRINKING?
TRUMP: YEAH, WELL, I HEARD ABOUT
IT, AND I WAS A LITTLE
SURPRISED, BECAUSE I WAS HEAVY
WITH THEM WHEN--I MEAN, EVERY
DAY, EVERY TIME THAT, YOU KNOW,
LEAVE THE HOUSE. NO DRUGS, NO
ALCOHOL, NO CIGARETTES. SO, I
WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED,
BUT--
LEVIN: DID YOU INTERVENE WHEN
YOU KNEW HE WAS DRINKING?
TRUMP: I SPOKE TO HIM, BUT HE
NEVER HAD, YOU KNOW, THE BIG
PROBLEM. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT
COULD'VE BEEN ON THE WAY.
LEVIN: YOU SAID SOMETHING
INTERESTING. YOU SAID, "IF YOU
DON'T START, YOU'RE NOT
GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM." TRUMP: THE EASIEST IS DON'T
START.
LEVIN: DOES IT WORRY YOU THAT
YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT GENE,
SOMETHING INSIDE OF YOU THAT IF
YOU TOOK A DRINK, YOU WOULDN'T
STOP? YOU MIGHT TURN INTO WHAT
HAPPENED TO FRED, AND
DOES IT SCARE YOU?
TRUMP: YEAH, BUT THE NICE PART
IS THAT IF YOU DON'T DRINK,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
IT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE
THING. SO, IF I SAID, "OK,
MAYBE I HAVE THAT GENE, SO, I'LL
DRINK VERY, VERY LITTLE." BUT IF
YOU HAVE THAT GENE, YOU'RE
NEVER GONNA STOP.
LEVIN: YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE.
TRUMP: AND I DO HAVE A
PERSONALITY THAT MAYBE,
YOU KNOW, YOU'D CARRY ME OUT OF
THIS ROOM ONE DAY, OK,
I MEAN, WHO KNOWS? I SAW
A FRIEND OF MINE--
LEVIN: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
TRUMP: WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE
GONNA DRINK JUST A LITTLE BIT,
YOU KNOW, IN MODERATION, BUT IF
YOU
THAT YOU CAN MODERATE
VERY EASILY.
LEVIN: SO, DO YOU NOT DRINK
OUT OF FEAR OR OUT OF CHOICE?
TRUMP: BOTH.
LEVIN: I HAD DINNER WITH A FRIEND THIS WEEK WHO WAS IN YOUR
OFFICE A LONG TIME AGO. IVANKA
WAS 23. AND SHE WALKED IN AND
SAID, "DAD, I'M GOING--I'M
GOING OUT WITH SOME OF MY
FRIENDS TONIGHT," AND YOU GAVE
HER A SPEECH IN FRONT OF THE
PERSON THAT I HAD DINNER WITH,
AND THE SPEECH WAS "I DO NOT
WANT YOU TO DRINK. BOYS WILL
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.
IT'S A BAD THING."
TRUMP: WELL, AGAIN, I LEARNED
FROM MY BROTHER, AND YEAH, I'VE
BEEN VERY TOUGH ON MY CHILDREN
WITH RESPECT TO THAT. AND WHEN
PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MY
CHILDREN ARE DOING NICELY AND
PEOPLE RESPECT MY CHILDREN, AND
SOMETIMES EVEN VERY SUCCESSFUL
PEOPLE WOULD SAY, "COULD YOU
TALK TO MY CHILD AND"--
LEVIN: DO YOU DO THAT?
TRUMP: I DO. I DO FOR PEOPLE.
LEVIN: BACK TO FRED, THOUGH.
IS THAT PAINFUL FOR YOU TO
TALK ABOUT?
TRUMP: LESS THAN I WOULD THINK,
BECAUSE I REALLY THINK BY YOU
AND I TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE'RE
HELPING--SOMEBODY'S OUT THERE.
MAYBE IT'S ONE PERSON, AND THAT
WOULD BE OK, TOO. BUT SOMEBODY'S
OUT THERE THAT'S WATCHING YOU
AND I HAVE THIS CONVERSATION
WHO'S NOT GONNA BE DRINKING OR
NOT GONNA BE TAKING DRUGS OR
MAYBE NOT START SMOKING
CIGARETTES BECAUSE OF THE
CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING
RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S SOMETHING
REALLY COOL ABOUT THAT,
DON'T YOU THINK?
LEVIN: BUSINESS SCHOOL WAS NOT
YOUR FIRST CHOICE.
TRUMP: WELL, I WANTED TO BE
IN A BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE VERY
FAMILIAR WITH. I WANTED TO MAKE
MOTION PICTURES.
LEVIN: WHAT WAS IT ABOUT--
I MEAN, THAT'S SHOCKING.
TELL ME WHAT THE TRUMP
WHITE HOUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE,
BECAUSE YOUR PLACE IS
A LITTLE LIKE VERSAILLES. HA!
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LEVIN: SO, TELL ME ABOUT
WHAT THIS IS.
TRUMP: THAT IS THE ENTREPRENEUR
OF THE YEAR AWARD FROM THE
WHARTON SCHOOL OF FINANCE,
WHICH, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS A
NICE THING TO GET FROM THAT
KIND OF A SCHOOL.
LEVIN: YOU GOT THAT WHEN YOU
WERE IN SCHOOL?
TRUMP: I GOT THAT A LITTLE BIT
AFTER THAT. I GUESS I GOT THAT
FROM DOING DEALS. I WAS
AWARDED THAT.
LEVIN: SO, THIS WAS--OVERALL,
THEY LOOKED AROUND THE COUNTRY
AND THEY SAID, "THIS IS THE GUY."
TRUMP: I GUESS. I DIDN'T ASK.
I PICKED IT UP AND I WAS OUT OF
THERE, SO--
LEVIN: MY UNDERSTANDING IS
BUSINESS SCHOOL
WAS NOT YOUR FIRST CHOICE.
TRUMP: WELL, I WANTED TO BE IN A
BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE VERY
FAMILIAR WITH. I WANTED TO MAKE
MOTION PICTURES. I ABSOLUTELY
DID. I WAS GOING TO APPLY
TO USC.
LEVIN: USC FILM SCHOOL.
TRUMP: AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY
GOING TO DO THAT. I LOVED IT.
WADE.
WADE: TRUMP.
TRUMP: I HEAR KELSON
FINALLY DUMPED YOU.
WADE: NOT EXACTLY, NO. WE JUST
CAME TO A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING
THAT SHE COULDN'T BEAR ME
FOR ANOTHER SECOND, THAT'S ALL.
LEVIN: WHAT WAS IT ABOUT--
I MEAN, THAT'S SHOCKING. WHY--
WHAT WAS IT THAT LITERALLY WAS
GONNA MAKE YOU BREAK FROM WHAT
YOUR DAD DID AND START
A CAREER IN FILM?
TRUMP: I JUST LIKED IT. I ALWAYS
LIKED IT. I LIKED THE GLAMOUR
OF MOVIES.
THE THING THAT'S HARD WITH THAT
BUSINESS IS YOU NEVER KNOW
WHAT'S GONNA HIT, AND LIKE, WE
DO "THE APPRENTICE." WHO
WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT WAS GONNA
BE SUCH A BIG HIT, RIGHT?
WELL, IT'S BEEN GREAT, AND YOU
KNOW, IT BECAME THE NUMBER-ONE
SHOW ON TELEVISION, AND NOW IT'S
YET ANOTHER BIG HIT. NOW, IN
REAL ESTATE, THERE'S ALWAYS
RISKS IN EVERYTHING, BUT IF I
GET THE BEST LOCATION, I DO THE
BEST-LOOKING BUILDING, I GET IT
UP ON TIME AND ON BUDGET, I DO
THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A
PRETTY GOOD CHANCE OF SUCCESS.
WITH A MOVIE, YOU SEE, THEY
SPEND 200 MILLION ON A MOVIE
AND IT'S A BOMB AND THEY SPEND
$500,000 ON IT, IT'S A
TREMENDOUS SUCCESS,
SO, YOU NEVER REALLY--
LEVIN: I GOTTA TELL YOU, JUST
BASED ON WHAT I KNOW ABOUT YOUR
PERSONALITY, THAT REALLY
SURPRISES ME, BECAUSE I HAVE
NEVER HEARD YOU RISK-AVERSE.
I'VE NEVER HEARD YOU SAY,
"IT'S JUST TOO RISKY.
I'M FEARFUL OF IT." AND IT
SOUNDS LIKE MOVIES ARE ALMOST
TOO BIG A GAMBLE.
TRUMP: I THINK THEY ARE A
GAMBLE. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT.
I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF MAKING
MOVIES. I LOVE THE OLD GREAT
MOVIES--"SUNSET BOULEVARD."
LEVIN: COULD YOU HAVE CUT IT?
TRUMP: I DON'T KNOW. YOU NEVER
KNOW. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID IF YOU
CAN MAKE IT IN ONE BUSINESS, YOU CAN MAKE IT IN ANOTHER
BUSINESS.
LEVIN: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
TRUMP: YEAH, I DO. IF YOU LIKE
IT, IF YOU HAVE AN APTITUDE FOR
IT. AND YOU HAVE TO BE
INTERESTED IN IT. BUT I'VE
ALWAYS FELT, HARVEY, THAT IF
YOU CAN MAKE IT IN ONE, YOU'LL
MAKE IT IN ANOTHER, IF YOU LIKE
IT. YOU HAVE TO LIKE IT.
YOU HAVE TO LOVE IT.
WE CAN'T BE DEFENDING JAPAN
AND WE CAN'T BE DEFENDING SAUDI
ARABIA AND THE PERSIAN GULF AND
EVERYBODY ELSE. OTHER COUNTRIES
HAVE TO PAY US FOR THE SERVICES
WE'RE RENDERING OR THIS
COUNTRY'S GONNA GO RIGHT DOWN
THE TUBES, AND THAT IS A SHAME.
PHIL DONAHUE: AND WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.
[APPLAUSE]
TRUMP: SO, YOU SPOTTED THIS, BUT
IT'S A LETTER FROM
RICHARD NIXON.
LEVIN: WRITTEN 1987.
TRUMP: AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING
THAT HE WROTE. YOU CAN READ IT.
LEVIN: "I DID NOT SEE THE
PROGRAM BUT MRS. NIXON TOLD ME
THAT YOU WERE GREAT ON THE
"DONAHUE" SHOW. AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE, SHE IS AN EXPERT ON
POLITICS AND SHE PREDICTS THAT
WHENEVER YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR
OFFICE YOU WILL BE A WINNER!
WITH WARM REGARDS, SINCERELY,
DICK." DID YOU KNOW HIM?
TRUMP: NOT WELL, NO, I DIDN'T
KNOW HIM, BUT HE WOULD WRITE ME
LETTERS. IT WAS VERY
INTERESTING. HE ALWAYS WANTED ME
TO RUN FOR OFFICE, BUT--
LEVIN: WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT
BACK THEN? TRUMP: NOT REALLY.
OPRAH WINFREY: THIS SOUNDS LIKE
POLITICAL PRESIDENTIAL TALK TO
ME, AND I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE
TALKED TO YOU ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT YOU WANT TO RUN. WOULD
YOU--WOULD YOU EVER?
TRUMP: PROBABLY NOT, BUT I--
I DO GET TIRED OF SEEING
THE COUNTRY...
WINFREY: WHY WOULD YOU NOT?
TRUMP: I JUST DON'T THINK
I REALLY HAVE THE INCLINATION
TO DO IT. I LOVE WHAT I'M DOING.
I REALLY LIKE IT.
WINFREY: ALSO IT DOESN'T PAY
AS WELL. [LAUGHTER]
TRUMP: I JUST PROBABLY WOULDN'T
DO IT, OPRAH, I PROBABLY
WOULDN'T, BUT I DO GET TIRED OF
SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
THIS COUNTRY, AND IF IT GOT SO
BAD, I WOULD NEVER WANT TO
RULE IT OUT TOTALLY.
HONESTLY, THE FIRST TIME I REALLY STARTED THINKING ABOUT
DOING IT WAS 4 YEARS AGO.
LEVIN: BUT THIS IS A GUY WHO
CLEARLY SAW YOU AFTER YOU WROTE
YOUR BOOK, WHEN YOU WERE A
SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN, AND HE
PROJECTED YOU INTO POLITICS.
TRUMP: WELL, HE--AND HE HAD SOME
ROUGH LIFE. I MEAN, WHEN YOU
THINK OF HIS LIFE, THAT WAS A
LIFE OF ANGUISH AND TURMOIL,
WOULDN'T YOU SAY? BUT IT WAS
INTERESTING BECAUSE HE WROTE
THIS LETTER AND I JUST...
LEVIN: AND YOU REALLY DIDN'T
KNOW HIM AT ALL. TRUMP: I DIDN'T KNOW HIM WELL,
NO. I DIDN'T KNOW HIM WELL.
LEVIN: DOES BUSINESS TRAIN YOU
FOR POLITICS?
TRUMP: YEAH, I THINK TO A
CERTAIN EXTENT. I THINK YOU NEED
HEART, MORE HEART, MAYBE, IN
POLITICS, WHICH I THINK I HAVE,
ACTUALLY, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN
THINGS IN POLITICS. YOU HAVE TO
BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. MAYBE
YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT
SOFTER IN A CERTAIN WAY,
CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF YOUR
THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT--
LEVIN: SOFTER IN POLITICS
THAN BUSINESS?
TRUMP: LOOK, I MEAN, THINK OF
THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE
MADE WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT
SENDING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN
INTO WAR. OK? INTO WAR.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF A
DECISION IF YOU'RE RUNNING A
COMPANY OR IF IT'S BUSINESS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE SUCH
MONUMENTAL DECISIONS. IT'S A
TOUGH--THERE'S NO--THERE'S
NOTHING EASY ABOUT IT,
THAT I CAN TELL YOU.
I AM OFFICIALLY RUNNING...
[CROWD CHEERING]
FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
LEVIN: YOU ARE A VERY
HEADSTRONG GUY. WHEN YOU
MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN THIS
BUILDING THAT YOU WERE RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT, HOW IMPROBABLE
DID IT SEEM THAT YOU WOULD GET
TO THIS POINT?
TRUMP: YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK
I WAS GONNA DO IT AND LOSE.
I MEAN, YOU DO IT TO WIN, RIGHT?
LEVIN: WELL, SOME PEOPLE DO IT
TO MAKE A STATEMENT,
REALLY KNOWING THEY'RE NOT GONNA
GET THIS FAR.
TRUMP: I DID IT BECAUSE I
THOUGHT I COULD WIN.
LEVIN: SO, THIS DOESN'T SURPRISE
YOU AT ALL, WHAT'S HAPPENED?
TRUMP: WELL, IT SURPRISES A LOT
OF PEOPLE. MAYBE IT DOESN'T
SURPRISE ME. IT DOESN'T--
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THIS IN A
BRAGGADOCIOUS WAY. IT DOESN'T
SURPRISE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
THAT KNOW ME.
LEVIN: THE DAY YOU WENT DOWN
THAT ESCALATOR, YOU THOUGHT YOU
WERE GONNA BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES.
TRUMP: I THINK SO, BECAUSE IF I
DIDN'T THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK
I WOULD'VE GONE DOWN
THE ESCALATOR.
LEVIN: TELL ME WHAT THE TRUMP
WHITE HOUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE,
BECAUSE YOUR PLACE IS...
A LITTLE LIKE VERSAILLES. HA!
WHAT'S GONNA CHANGE
AT THE WHITE HOUSE?
TRUMP: I THINK THE WHITE HOUSE IS SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE AND IT
HAS SUCH A SPECIAL MEANING FOR
AMERICAN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY, BUT
FOR THE WORLD. IT'S A WORLD
MEANING. AND NOTHING WOULD
CHANGE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE WHITE HOUSE WILL REMAIN THE
WAY IT IS. IT'S A VERY SPECIAL
PLACE. IN TERMS OF
REPRESENTATION OR MEANING,
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT.
LEVIN: WHAT ATTRACTED YOU
TO MELANIA?
SHE IS STUNNING, BUT
THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE THAN THAT
FOR IT TO LAST THIS LONG.
TRUMP: LOOK, BEAUTY IS, YOU
KNOW, A VERY NICE THING, BUT
AFTER THE FIRST HOUR, YOU STILL
HAVE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.
Can I give it to you straight?
That airline credit card you have... it could be better.
It's time to shake things up.
With the Capital One Venture card, you get double miles on
EVERYTHING YOU BUY, not just airline purchases.
Seriously, think of all the things you buy.
Great...is this why you asked me to coffee?
Well yeah... but also to catch-up.
What's in your wallet?
TRUMP: WELL, MY FATHER WAS A
VERY SPECIAL GUY. HE WAS
STRONG AND KIND AND GOOD
AND VERY SMART, AND I ENJOYED
MY FATHER A LOT.
LEVIN: HOW IMPORTANT WAS HE
IN TERMS OF WHO YOU'VE BECOME?
TRUMP: I THINK HE WAS LIKE
SORT OF EVERYTHING. HE WAS FOR
ME THE MENTOR, MY BEST FRIEND.
HE JUST HAD THE WHOLE--THE WHOLE
BALLGAME...
LEVIN: SO, GIVE ME THE QUALITIES
THAT YOU THINK ARE EMBODIED
IN YOU FROM HIM.
TRUMP: WELL, I THINK I HAVE A
CERTAIN SIMILARITY. WE LOVED
DETAIL, WE LOVED ORDER. WHEN WE
BUILT, WE BUILT ON TIME. WE GOT
PEOPLE TO WORK. HE WAS A GOOD
LEADER. HE BELIEVED MEN AND
WOMEN--NOW, IN THOSE DAYS, IT
WAS MEN--BUT HE'D LEAD THEM TO
GETTING A BUILDING DONE OR
GETTING A HOME BUILT OR WHATEVER
HE WAS DOING. AND YOU KNOW,
I HAVE THAT SAME QUALITY.
LEVIN: IT SEEMS, THOUGH, AS MUCH
AS HE INFLUENCED YOU, YOU WANTED
TO OUTDO HIM. HE WAS IN QUEENS.
HE DID HOUSING PROJECTS.
YOU WERE IN MANHATTAN.
YOU BUILT SKYSCRAPERS.
TRUMP: I DON'T THINK I WANTED
TO OUTDO HIM, BUT MAYBE
PSYCHOLOGICALLY, I DID. I WOULD
NEVER BE ABLE TO SAY TO YOU,
"OH, I DID," BUT YOU KNOW, IT
COULD BE YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING
TO DO MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER THAN
YOUR PARENTS OR WHATEVER IT MAY
BE, BUT I DON'T THINK I--
CERTAINLY, I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT
IN TERMS OF OVERTLY, BUT MAYBE
DEEP DOWN INSIDE, MAYBE I DID,
AND HE WAS VERY PROUD OF ME.
HE WAS VERY PROUD OF THE
BUILDINGS I BUILT. HE WAS VERY
PROUD OF THE SUCCESS THAT I'VE
HAD. I'VE HAD THIS INCREDIBLE
SUCCESS, AND HE WAS SO PROUD,
AND HE LIVED TO BE ALMOST 94
YEARS OLD, SO, HE GOT TO SEE
A LOT OF IT.
LEVIN: WHERE DID YOU GET
THE SHOWMANSHIP FROM?
TRUMP: I THINK MY MOTHER HAD A
NATURAL SHOWMANSHIP. SHE WAS
BORN IN SCOTLAND. ALWAYS
RESPECTED THE QUEEN. ALWAYS
LIKED POMP AND CEREMONY. SO, I
FIGURE MAYBE THAT'S WHERE IT
HAPPENED. I DON'T KNOW. BUT MY
MOTHER LOVED
THE BUCKINGHAM PALACE THING.
SHE THOUGHT IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL.
THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD.
LEVIN: WITH QUEEN ELIZABETH?
TRUMP: WITH QUEEN ELIZABETH.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
SHE HAD A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE
QUEEN. ALWAYS THOUGHT SHE WAS A
TERRIFIC PERSON.
LEVIN: YOUR DAD WAS KIND OF
CYNICAL OF THAT.
TRUMP: YEAH, MY FATHER WOULD'VE
BEEN A LITTLE BIT THE OPPOSITE,
BUT IT WAS VERY--IT WAS AN
INTERESTING COMBINATION.
WELL, THAT IS THE WEDDING
INVITATION. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL
DAY AT THE MAR-A-LAGO CLUB IN
PALM BEACH. LEVIN: 2005?
TRUMP: YEAH. THAT WAS VERY NICE.
LEVIN: WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO
MELANIA?
TRUMP: WELL, SHE'S A VERY, VERY
GOOD PERSON. VERY KIND. GREAT
MOTHER. UNBELIEVABLE MOTHER.
AND WE HAD A VERY IMMEDIATE
ATTRACTION, ABSOLUTELY.
LEVIN: SHE IS STUNNING. BUT
THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE THAN THAT
FOR IT TO LAST THIS LONG.
TRUMP: LOOK, BEAUTY IS, YOU
KNOW, A VERY NICE THING, BUT
AFTER THE FIRST HOUR, YOU STILL
HAVE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY. BUT
NO, SHE'S BEEN--SHE'S BEEN
TERRIFIC.
LEVIN: SHE IS KIND OF A
TRADITIONAL WIFE...
TRUMP: TOTALLY. LEVIN: AND IT SEEMS LIKE
THAT SUITS YOU.
TRUMP: I THINK IT DOES. IT DOES.
BUT SHE'S VERY TRADITIONAL.
WOULD RATHER STAY AT HOME
THAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S VERY
TRADITIONAL. I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
LEVIN: AND, YOU KNOW, I HEAR
SHE'S INCREDIBLY INVOLVED WITH
BARRON AND DRIVES HIM
TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
TRUMP: SHE TAKES HIM TO SCHOOL.
SHE'S VERY INVOLVED WITH HIM.
SHE--SHE LOVES FAMILY. I MEAN,
HER WHOLE THING, AND HER PARENTS
ARE HERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
THEY'LL COME OVER FROM EUROPE
AND SHE LOVES HAVING THEM HERE.
SHE'S A VERY GOOD PERSON.
LEVIN: WHEN YOU DECIDED TO RUN
FOR THE WHITE HOUSE,
DID SHE WINCE?
TRUMP: WELL, SHE DID, AND YOU
KNOW, RIGHTFULLY SO, I MEAN,
AND THEY WERE SAYING SHE'S AN
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, AND YOU KNOW,
IT'S LIKE THE--OH,
DID SHE GET HIT.
LEVIN: WHEN YOU SIT DOWN WITH
HER, WILL SHE ARGUE WITH YOU?
DOES SHE WIN?
TRUMP: I MEAN, SHE HAS GREAT
SENSE, COMMON SENSE,
BUT GREAT SENSE.
LEVIN: IS SHE IN YOUR EAR A LOT
IN TERMS OF--
TRUMP: WELL, SHE--SHE HAS--
YEAH. SHE HAS A CERTAIN
UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
SHE COMES FROM EUROPE.
LEVIN: DOES THAT HELP?
TRUMP: SPEAKS LANGUAGES.
LEVIN: DOES THAT HELP FOR YOU,
THAT IT'S SOMEBODY FROM A
DIFFERENT BACKGROUND?
TRUMP: WELL, MAYBE. I MEAN,
I'M NOT SURE I CAN REALLY DEFINE
THAT, BUT MAYBE IT DOES HELP.
BUT SHE IS SOMEBODY THAT
HAS--HAS REAL--SHE HAS SENSE.
LEVIN: SHE'S PRETTY MUCH THE
DOMINANT FACTOR IN
RAISING BARRON.
TRUMP: YES. OH, YES, SHE IS.
I MEAN, I--I'M A GOOD FATHER,
BUT SHE'S VERY DOMINANT WHEN IT
COMES TO RAISING OUR SON.
LEVIN: IS SHE LOOKING FORWARD TO
LIFE AS A FIRST LADY IN THE
WHITE HOUSE? THERE ARE SOME
PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO EMBRACE IT
AND OTHERS, LIKE PAT NIXON,
NEVER DID.
TRUMP: OH, I KNOW, AND THERE ARE
SOME WOMEN THAT WOULDN'T LIKE
IT, SOME WOMEN--I THINK MAYBE--
I THINK SHE'D DO A GREAT JOB.
I THINK SHE'D BE VERY, VERY
HELPFUL TO CHARITIES, DIFFERENT
CHARITIES. BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU
YET WHETHER OR NOT SHE'D
EMBRACE IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT
EASY TO EMBRACE.
LEVIN: YOU HAVE PUT YOUR NAME
ON ALL YOUR BUILDINGS.
THAT NAME MEANS A LOT TO YOU.
THAT'S EGO. I MEAN, DO YOU VIEW
EGO AS A BAD THING?
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LEVIN: WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?
HA!
TRUMP: THESE ARE MAGAZINE COVERS
OVER THE LAST 6 MONTHS,
AND I THINK 5 OR 6 TIMES ON THE
COVER OF "TIME," AND IT'S CRAZY.
LEVIN: SO, WHAT STRIKES ME ABOUT
THIS IS THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE
NOT EVEN PARTICULARLY
FLATTERING, BUT YOU'VE GOT THEM
PROUDLY DISPLAYED.
TRUMP: BOY, I HAVE A LOT OF
THEM. SOME ARE NOT FLATTERING,
BUT THEY'RE THERE.
LEVIN: THIS MUST GIVE YOU SOME
GRATIFICATION TO SEE THAT YOU'RE
ON EVERY MAGAZINE COVER.
TRUMP: WELL, IT DOESN'T.
NOT ALL GOOD STORIES.
LEVIN: IS HAVING THE STORIES
MORE IMPORTANT AND RELEVANT TO
YOU THAN-- TRUMP: NO, I'M NOT A BELIEVER IN
ALL PUBLICITY IS GOOD PUBLICITY.
I THINK--I'M NOT A BELIEVER
IN THAT AT ALL. A LOT OF PEOPLE
SAY I LIKE THAT AND I THINK IT'S
GREAT, BUT IT'S--IT'S NOT.
LEVIN: WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND
YOUR CITY AND YOU SEE YOUR NAME
ON ALL THESE BUILDINGS, THAT
MUST GIVE YOU A REAL SENSE
OF SATISFACTION.
TRUMP: IT DOES. I MEAN, I'VE
ALWAYS LOVED NEW YORK. IT'S
SPECIAL. AND YOU KNOW, TO HAVE
DONE SO WELL IN THIS CITY IS,
LIKE, TO ME, IT'S A GREAT HONOR.
THERE'S SOMETHING GREAT
ABOUT IT.
LEVIN: THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAY
THAT THIS AND THE BUILDINGS AND
EVERYTHING ELSE IS EGO.
TO THAT YOU SAY WHAT?
TRUMP: NO, IT'S NOT EGO. I LOVE
DOING IT. I JUST HAVE FUN.
WE HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME THAT
WE'RE ON EARTH, AND WE LIKE TO
DO A GOOD JOB, BUT I LOVE DOING
IT. I'VE HAD SUCH AN INCREDIBLE
TIME. I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT
THAT IF I RUN FOR OFFICE, I WAS
GONNA END UP WITH THIS. THIS IS,
BY THE WAY, A SMALL SAMPLE
OF WHAT'S TAKEN PLACE.
TRUMP STEAKS ARE BY FAR THE
BEST-TASTING, MOST FLAVORFUL
BEEF YOU'VE EVER HAD. TRULY
IN A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.
MAN: "TRUMP: THE GAME." BECAUSE
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WIN OR LOSE,
IT'S WHETHER YOU WIN.
LEVIN: THAT'S EGO. I MEAN, DO
YOU VIEW EGO AS A BAD THING?
TRUMP: NO, I DON'T. I MEAN,
I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH EGO.
THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE. THEY'RE BAD
PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T
KNOW. BUT I DO SEE A LOT OF
PEOPLE THAT WIN HAVE A BIG EGO.
LEVIN: WHO ARE YOU? WHO'S DONALD TRUMP?
TRUMP: I MEAN, ALWAYS A VERY
TOUGH QUESTION, BUT I'M SOMEBODY
THAT LIKES TO HELP PEOPLE.
I LIKE TO SEE THINGS DONE RIGHT.
BUT YOU KNOW, ABOVE ALL, I WANT
TO MAKE LIFE GOOD FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE, NOT JUST MYSELF. I DON'T
WANT TO--I'VE WON SO MUCH.
I'VE WON ENOUGH FOR MYSELF.
I WANT TO WIN FOR THE COUNTRY
NOW. I HATE SEEING, HARVEY,
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY.
LEVIN: IF YOU HAD TO DEFINE
YOURSELF AS A SMART PERSON, A
SAVVY PERSON, YOU KNOW, A
TENACIOUS PERSON, WHICH OF THOSE
MOST SUITS YOU IN TERMS OF
WHO YOU ARE AS A GUY?
TRUMP: I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK,
I'M SMART, I WENT TO GOOD
SCHOOLS, I DID WELL, SO, I GUESS
I'M SMART. I'M VERY TENACIOUS.
I WON'T GIVE UP, CERTAINLY,
AND NEVER GIVE UP. I ALWAYS TELL
PEOPLE, "NEVER, EVER QUIT,
NEVER, EVER GIVE UP, ALWAYS DO
SOMETHING YOU LOVE." BUT,
YOU KNOW, NEVER QUIT. NEVER
QUIT. YOU'D HAVE SO MUCH MORE
SUCCESS IF PEOPLE WOULD
JUST KEEP GOING.
LEVIN: EVEN AGAINST ODDS.
TRUMP: EVEN AGAINST ODDS.
MAN: LET'S GO BACK TO
[INDISTINCT].
TRUMP: I'M LEAVING FOR NEW
HAMPSHIRE. SO, WE WON'T BE TOO
MUCH LONGER. I'M GOING UP TO DO
A SPEECH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
NOW, SO--
LEVIN: TODAY? TRUMP: YEAH. AM I GOING? RONA?
RONA: NO, YOU HAVE FALLON NEXT.
TRUMP: OH, I HAVE JIMMY FALLON.
ARE YOU GONNA COME WITH ME?
LEVIN: TO FALLON? TRUMP: YEAH. JIMMY FALLON.
I'M ON--WHAT TIME DO I
HAVE TO BE THERE?
OH, I'M NOT DOING NEW HAMPSHIRE
TODAY?
RONA: YOU ARE AFTER FALLON.
TRUMP: HOW ABOUT THAT FOR A
SCHEDULE?
LEVIN: JESUS. TRUMP: HARV, I'M GONNA HAVE TO
GO AFTER THIS ONE.
CAN WE--IS THIS THE LAST ONE?
LEVIN: NO. TRUMP: THIS IS PRETTY INTENSE.
LEVIN: AH, NO, IT'S NOT.
TRUMP: HOW MUCH--HOW MUCH MORE
DO WE-- LEVIN: I NEED 45 MINUTES.
IT'S AN HOUR SHOW.
WHERE AM I STANDING, GUYS?
TRUMP: ARE YOU GOING OVER TO FALLON?
LEVIN: NO.
TRUMP: ARE YOU FRIENDLY WITH HIM
AT ALL OR NOT?
LEVIN: I DON'T REALLY KNOW HIM. I MEAN...
TRUMP: LET ME GET--I'LL GET ON
THIS SIDE, MAYBE, IF IT'S COOL.
THAT IS THE LONGEST INTERVIEW
I HAVE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE--
AND INTENSE. COME HERE.
LEVIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TRUMP: BELIEVE ME!
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