1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,000 TALKING TO WITNESSES, 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 ACQUAINTANCES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS, ANYONE THEY CAN FIND TO 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 GIVE THEM A SENSE OF WHAT THE 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 MOTIVE MIGHT HAVE BEEN. BUT THE 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 STARK REALITY IS THAT A LONE 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,000 ACTOR WHO IS WILLING TO USE A 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 GUN IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 DETECT AND TO STOP. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,000 >> AARON KATERSKY, THANK YOU SO 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 MUCH. AS WE COME UP ON THE TOP 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 OF THE HOUR HERE, 9 P.M. IN THE 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,000 EAST, I'M WHIT JOHNSON IN NEW 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 YORK. AND IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 US, WE ARE FOLLOWING ALL OF 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 THESE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS AFTER 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,000 THE SHOOTING AT A CAMPAIGN 17 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,000 RALLY, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 BUTLER, PENNSYLVANIA, WAS 19 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 SLIGHTLY WOUNDED IN THE RIGHT 20 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 EAR. BUT WE'RE TOLD BY HIS 21 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 CAMPAIGN, BY HIS FAMILY THAT 22 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 HE'S DOING FINE. AUTHORITIES SAY 23 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 THE SHOTS WERE FIRED FROM A 24 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 ROOFTOP ADJACENT TO THE VENUE, 25 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 SOME 200 TO 300 YARDS AWAY, 26 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,000 EIGHT ROUNDS FIRED FROM AN AR 27 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 STYLE RIFLE. THAT INFORMATION, 28 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 JUST REPORTED BY OUR AARON KATERSKY AND THE SHOOTER WAS 29 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 NEUTRALIZED BY THE SECRET 30 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 SERVICE. THE SHOOTER WAS KILLED. 31 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 AUTHORITIES SAY A SECOND PERSON, 32 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 A BYSTANDER, IS ALSO DEAD. ALSO 33 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 GETTING REPORTS THAT THAT 34 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 ANOTHER SPECTATOR MAY HAVE BEEN 35 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 CRITICALLY INJURED. THE INCIDENT 36 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 IS BEING INVESTIGATED NOW AS A 37 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,000 POSSIBLE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT. 38 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S SON, DON 39 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 JR, SAYS HIS FATHER IS UNDER 40 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 OBSERVATION AT THE HOSPITAL AND 41 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 IN GOOD SPIRITS. PRESIDENT BIDEN 42 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,000 TONIGHT COMING BEFORE THE 43 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 CAMERAS CONDEMNING THE INCIDENT, 44 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 SAYING THERE'S NO PLACE IN THIS 45 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 COUNTRY FOR VIOLENCE. A FORMER 46 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,000 PRESIDENT HIMSELF ALSO RELEASING 47 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 A STATEMENT MOMENTS AGO THANKING 48 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 THE SECRET SERVICE AND LAW 49 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000 ENFORCEMENT FOR THEIR RAPID 50 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 RESPONSE, DESCRIBING THE 51 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 INCIDENT, SAYING HE HEARD A 52 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,000 WHIZZING SOUND AND SHOTS. AND 53 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN, AS WE ALSO 54 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 NOTED THERE COMING BEFORE THE 55 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,000 CAMERAS, HE WAS CONDEMNING THE 56 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 VIOLENCE, SAYING ALL FEDERAL 57 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 AGENCIES ARE NOW ENGAGED. HE 58 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 ALSO TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE 59 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 FORMER PRESIDENT PERSONALLY TO 60 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 SPEAK WITH HIM TONIGHT, THE 61 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 INCIDENT ALL PLAYING OUT BEFORE 62 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 THE CAMERAS THAT HAVE THE 63 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 HORRIFIC MOMENT HERE, THE LOUD 64 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 NOISES POPPING, THE FORMER 65 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 PRESIDENT APPEARING TO GRAB HIS 66 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 RIGHT EAR IN THAT MOMENT, SECRET 67 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,000 SERVICE AGENTS THEN RUSHING THE 68 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 STAGE, PROTECTING HIM WITH THEIR 69 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 BODIES LIKE A HUMAN SHIELD. 70 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 THOSE ANXIOUS MOMENTS AS 71 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 EVERYONE WAS WAITING TO SEE IF 72 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 TRUMP WAS OKAY. 73 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 >> THIS IS THE SHOCKING MOMENT. 74 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 CHAOS ERUPTED AT DONALD TRUMP'S 75 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000 RALLY IN BUTLER, PENNSYLVANIA. 76 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 IF YOU WANT TO REALLY SEE 77 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000 SOMETHING THAT SAID, TAKE A LOOK 78 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,000 AT WHAT HAPPENED. YOU CAN HEAR 79 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 SEVERAL POPS AND SEE THE FORMER 80 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 PRESIDENT GRABBING HIS EAR, 81 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 DUCKING FOR COVER BEHIND THE 82 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,000 PODIUM. SECRET SERVICE AGENTS 83 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,000 RUSHING THE STAGE SURROUNDING 84 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 TRUMP, SHIELDING HIM, TAKING HIM 85 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 DOWN TO THE GROUND. THE 86 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 SCREAMING CROWD LOOKING ON IN 87 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 HORROR. A SHORT TIME LATER, 88 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,000 AGENTS CAREFULLY LIFTING THE 89 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 FORMER PRESIDENT UP. 90 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 >> SIR, I GOT YOU, SIR. LET ME 91 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 GET MY SHOES ON. 92 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 >> HOLD THAT IN YOUR HEAD. 93 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 BLOODY BLOOD CLEARLY SEEN ON HIS 94 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,000 FACE. >> TRUMP PUMPING HIS FIST. 95 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 AGENTS WHISKING THE FORMER 96 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,000 PRESIDENT OFF THE STAGE. DOWN 97 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 THE STAIRS TO A WAITING ARMORED 98 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 SUV RUSHING HIM TO A LOCAL 99 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 MEDICAL CENTER. WE HEARD WHAT WE 100 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 APPEARED TO BE. GUNFIRE COMING. 101 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS RUSHED 102 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 OFF THE STAGE. RIGHT NOW WITH 103 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 SECRET SERVICE. HE'S BEING 104 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 ESCORTED INTO HIS VEHICLE. THIS 105 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 WAS A CHAOTIC MOMENT THAT JUST 106 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 PLAYED OUT RIGHT HERE IN 107 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 PENNSYLVANIA. PEOPLE RUNNING AND 108 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,000 RUSHING TO THE GROUND AS THEY 109 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 HEARD THOSE APPARENT SHOTS FIRED 110 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 TONIGHT, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN 111 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 RELEASING A STATEMENT SAYING THE 112 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 FORMER PRESIDENT IS FINE AND 113 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 BEING CHECKED OUT AT A LOCAL 114 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 MEDICAL FACILITY. JUST HOURS 115 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 AGO, THIS AREA WAS LINED WITH 116 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 TRUMP SUPPORTERS. THEY ENTERED 117 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 THAT TENT RIGHT THERE TO BE 118 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 SCREENED BY SECRET SERVICE, 119 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,000 GOING THROUGH METAL DETECTORS, 120 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 THEIR BELONGINGS TESTED NOW, 121 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 THIS IS THE SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE 122 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 TRUMP SUPPORTERS THAT ARE 123 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 LEAVING PANICKED AND CONFUSED AS 124 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 SECRET SERVICE AGENTS RUSH US 125 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 OUT OF THIS AREA AND BACK TO OUR 126 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 CARS TONIGHT, THE CROWD STILL IN 127 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 DISBELIEF. TELL ME WHAT YOU SAW 128 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 AND WHAT YOU HEARD. YOU SAID 129 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 THAT YOU HEARD THE POPPING 130 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 SOUNDS AND YOU GOT DOWN SOUNDS. 131 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 >> FIRST YOU THINK LIKE MAYBE 132 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 FIRECRACKERS, BUT IT CONTINUED, 133 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 IT CONTINUED, AND THEN SOMEBODY 134 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 YELLED, GET DOWN! >> WE GOT DOWN, WE GOT DOWN AND 135 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 WE HUDDLED AND WE STARTED 136 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 PRAYING. >> TONIGHT, LOCAL OFFICIALS 137 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 TELLING ABC NEWS THOSE SOUNDS 138 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 WERE, IN FACT, GUNSHOTS. LIVE 139 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 ROUNDS FIRED FROM OUTSIDE THE 140 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 SECURITY PERIMETER. THIS IS 141 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 BEING INVESTIGATED AS AN 142 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION. AND 143 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,000 TONIGHT, THE LOCAL DISTRICT 144 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 ATTORNEY TELLING ABC NEWS AT 145 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 LEAST ONE PERSON IS DEAD. AND 146 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 THE SHOOTER IS DEAD AS WELL. 147 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 TONIGHT, PRESIDENT BIDEN 148 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 ADDRESSING THE NATION. >> I HAVE TRIED TO GET A HOLD OF 149 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 DONALD. HE'S WITH HIS DOCTORS. 150 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 THEY APPARENTLY HE'S DOING WELL. 151 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,000 I PLAN ON TALKING TO HIM 152 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 SHORTLY. I HOPE WHEN I GET BACK 153 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 TO THE TELEPHONE. LOOK, THERE'S 154 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 NO PLACE IN AMERICA FOR THIS 155 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,000 KIND OF VIOLENCE. IT'S SICK. 156 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 IT'S SICK. IT'S ONE OF THE 157 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 REASONS WHY WE HAVE TO UNITE 158 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 THIS COUNTRY. WE CANNOT ALLOW 159 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,000 FOR THIS TO BE HAPPENING. WE 160 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 CANNOT BE LIKE THIS. WE CANNOT 161 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 CONDONE THIS. BUT THE IDEA, THE 162 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 IDEA THAT THERE'S POLITICAL 163 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,000 VIOLENCE OR VIOLENCE IN AMERICA 164 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 LIKE THIS IS JUST UNHEARD OF. 165 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 IT'S JUST NOT APPROPRIATE. AND 166 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 WE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY MUST 167 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 CONDEMN IT. 168 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 >> THOSE WORDS FROM PRESIDENT 169 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 BIDEN TONIGHT SAYING EVERYONE 170 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 MUST CONDEMN IT, SOMETHING THAT 171 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM 172 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 POLITICIANS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE 173 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 AISLE. AND RACHEL SCOTT IS BACK 174 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 WITH US NOW. RACHEL, YOU'VE BEEN 175 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING. 176 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,000 TONIGHT WE WERE TALKING TO EACH 177 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 OTHER DURING WORLD NEWS AS THE 178 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 RALLY WAS JUST GETTING UNDERWAY. 179 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 AND YOU'VE BEEN GETTING THESE 180 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 HORRIFIC STORIES FROM WITNESSES. 181 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 AND YOU'RE WITH ANOTHER ONE 182 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 TONIGHT. >> YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE WITH 183 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 ANOTHER GROUP OF WITNESSES THAT 184 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 SAW WHAT HAPPENED. 185 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 >> I WILL TELL YOU HOURS AGO, 186 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WAS FILLED 187 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 WITH TRUMP SUPPORTERS EAGER, 188 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 WAITING TO GO INSIDE OF THAT 189 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 RALLY RIGHT NOW, TONIGHT. THIS 190 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 IS AN AREA WHERE TRUMP 191 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 SUPPORTERS ARE GATHERING. 192 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 THEY'RE LEFT WITH SHOCK ABOUT 193 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 WHAT HAPPENED. TELL ME WHAT YOU 194 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 SAW INSIDE. >> YEAH, I WAS JUST ABOUT LIKE 195 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 30FT FROM TRUMP. AND THEN I SAW 196 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 THE PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN SHOT 197 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 AND THEY WERE BRINGING THEM DOWN 198 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 IN THE STANDS RIGHT ABOVE ME, 199 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 AND I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET 200 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 DOWN. I JUST KEPT STANDING. BUT 201 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 I SAW YEAH, I SAW THE MAN THAT 202 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 WAS HIT IN THE HEAD. AND HE WAS 203 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 A LOT OF BLOOD, AND I KNEW THERE 204 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 WAS NO WAY HE WAS GOING TO 205 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 SURVIVE THAT. AND THEN THERE 206 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 WERE TWO OF THEM THAT THEY 207 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 BROUGHT DOWN. BUT IT WAS LIKE 208 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,000 REAL CHAOS AND CHAOTIC. BUT I 209 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 DIDN'T GET DOWN. AND SO IT WAS 210 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,000 VERY INTERESTING. WE WERE JUST 211 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 RIGHT, RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, 212 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH 213 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 YOUR MIND AS YOU SAW THAT PERSON 214 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 WITH TONS OF BLOOD ON THEM? 215 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 >> YEAH. 216 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 >> AT FIRST I WAS THINKING, I 217 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 THOUGHT DIFFERENT THOUGHTS, 218 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 LIKE, MAYBE THIS WAS THE SHOOTER. AND THEN HE COMMITTED 219 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 SUICIDE. OR MAYBE SOMEONE SHOT 220 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 HIM. THAT'S WHAT MY FIRST 221 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 THOUGHTS WERE. I DIDN'T THINK 222 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,000 ABOUT. JUST LIKE SOMEONE THAT 223 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 WAS IN THE STANDS. YEAH THAT'S 224 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 WHAT I THOUGHT. 225 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 >> AND NOW KNOWING THAT THIS IS 226 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 SOMEONE THAT WAS IN THE STANDS, 227 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 HOW ARE YOU PROCESSING THIS? 228 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 >> NO, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN 229 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 SHOCK. YEAH WE'RE IN NUMB THAT 230 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 THIS HAPPENED. I SAY, WHEN I 231 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 HEARD THIS GOING ON, I THOUGHT 232 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,000 IT WAS A FIRECRACKER. IT'S LIKE 233 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 WITH KENNEDY, PEOPLE THOUGHT IT 234 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 WAS A FIRECRACKER, AND I LOOKED. 235 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 WE WERE 20 YARDS AWAY FROM 236 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 TRUMP, AND THEN WE WERE 20 YARDS 237 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 AWAY FROM WHERE I THOUGHT IT WAS 238 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 A FIRECRACKER. BUT THEN NOW I'M 239 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 THINKING MAYBE THOSE WERE 240 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 BULLETS THAT WERE GOING OVER OUR 241 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 HEAD. AND THEN THEY WERE SAYING, 242 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 GET DOWN, GET DOWN, GET OUT. WAS 243 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 I JUST WASN'T PROCESSING 244 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,000 SOMETHING LIKE TWO MINUTES. AND 245 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 I FINALLY HIT THE DECK. BUT I 246 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 THINK IT'S JUST LIKE YOU'RE IN 247 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 SHOCK. AND HOW DID THE GUY GET 248 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 THE GUN IN THERE? HOW DID HE GET 249 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 THE GUN? MIGHT HAVE BEEN. 250 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 >> YEAH, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU 251 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 THIS BECAUSE IS THIS YOUR FIRST 252 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000 TRUMP RALLY? NO NO. SO WE I'VE 253 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 BEEN I'VE COVERED A NUMBER OF 254 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 TRUMP RALLIES. I'VE BEEN TO 255 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TRUMP RALLY 256 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,000 THIS CYCLE. YOU'VE BEEN TO A 257 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 NUMBER AS WELL. YOU'RE FULLY 258 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 AWARE OF THE SECURITY PRECAUTIONS TRUMP SUPPORTERS AS 259 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,000 THEY'RE MAKING THEIR WAY IN. 260 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH 261 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 MAGNETOMETERS. YOUR BAGS ARE 262 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 SEARCHED, YOUR POCKETS ARE 263 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 SEARCHED AS WELL. AND SO ANY 264 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 AREA WHERE YOU'RE AROUND THE 265 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 FORMER PRESIDENT, THERE IS A 266 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 SENSE OF SAFETY AND SO TO HAVE 267 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 THIS OCCUR, WHAT WAS GOING 268 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 THROUGH YOUR MIND AS YOU HEARD 269 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 GUNFIRE? GET DOWN, GET DOWN. 270 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 >> I THINK FIRST I WAS IN SHOCK, 271 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 BUT I DO THINK I KIND OF I'M 272 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 DRAWN TO SOME OF THIS KIND OF I 273 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 TRIED OUT FOR THE SECRET SERVICE 274 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,000 AND I PASSED EVERYTHING, BUT 275 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 THEN THEY SAID, TAKE YOUR 276 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 GLASSES OFF. THAT WAS THE END OF 277 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 IT. SO MY WHOLE LIFE WOULD HAVE 278 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 BEEN CHANGED BECAUSE I COULDN'T 279 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 SEE. BUT I GUESS I LIKE TO BE 280 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 WHERE THE ACTION IS IN SOME 281 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 WAYS. SO BUT I MEAN, NOT NOT 282 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 THIS. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS 283 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 IS JUST HORRIBLE, JUST 284 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 HORRIFYING. BUT, TRUMP SURVIVED. 285 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. IT WOULD 286 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE NEWS, HAD 287 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 WORSE NEWS IF HE HAD BEEN 288 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 KILLED. SO THAT'S GOOD. YOU 289 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 KNOW, AT LEAST WE HAD THAT. BUT 290 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE ALL IN SHOCK. 291 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING I JUST 292 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 GOT DONE SAYING EVERY GENERATION 293 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 THINKS, WELL, WE'RE PAST THAT. 294 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE 295 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS. AND THEN 296 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. AND 297 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 MAYBE THAT'S REALLY HARD TO 298 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 STALK. I THOUGHT IT WAS 299 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 FIRECRACKERS. >> YEAH. YOU THOUGHT IT WAS 300 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 FIRECRACKERS? YEAH. I MEAN, SO 301 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 MANY PEOPLE DID INITIALLY WHEN 302 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 THAT FIRST HAPPENED, THERE WAS A 303 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 LOT OF CONFUSION FOR EVERYONE 304 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 THAT WAS INSIDE OF THAT 305 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 FAIRGROUND NEAR. WE HEARD THE 306 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 POP POP POP, POP, POP SOUNDS. WE 307 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 HEARD SHOUTS OF GUNFIRE, BUT WE 308 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 DID NOT KNOW FOR SURE. WE WERE 309 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 JUST ALL TOLD TO GET DOWN AND 310 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 THEN FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT 311 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,000 WAS ALSO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT 312 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 TOLD YOU ALL TO JUST STAY DOWN. 313 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 EVEN THOUGH THE FORMER PRESIDENT 314 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 WAS ALREADY ESCORTED TO MAKE 315 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 SURE THAT THEY HAD THE SITUATION 316 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 UNDER CONTROL. >> THEY JUST KEPT SAYING, STAY 317 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 DOWN, STAY DOWN. BUT THEN 318 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 CURIOSITY OVERCAME. AFTER ABOUT 319 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 FIVE MINUTES, THEY STOOD UP AND 320 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 THERE WERE LIKE 6 OR 7 MEN WITH 321 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 AR 15 OR WHATEVER. THEY, YOU 322 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 KNOW, WERE THEY A AK 47 OR AR 323 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 15? AND THEY WERE JUST LIKE 324 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 HAWKS. THEY WERE LOOKING AROUND, 325 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 STARING AT EVERYBODY AND THEIR 326 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 GUNS READY. AND ONE GUY LOOKED 327 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 KIND OF NERVOUS. I MEAN, IT WAS 328 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 JUST I WAS JUST KEPT THINKING 329 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF 330 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 HISTORY HERE, YOU KNOW? SO BUT 331 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 IT'S JUST IT'S HORRIBLE. THAT 332 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 GUY THAT WAS SHOT BECAUSE THERE 333 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 WAS SO MUCH BLOOD IN THINGS. SO, 334 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 YOU KNOW, HE WAS RIGHT ABOVE ME. 335 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 SO I THOUGHT, OH, THERE'S NO WAY 336 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 HE SURVIVED THAT. BUT YEAH, WHAT 337 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 A DAY. 338 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 >> A HARD THING TO WITNESS. AND 339 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 I SO APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING 340 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH ME. AND 341 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 I'M GLAD THAT ALL OF YOU ARE 342 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 SAFE. PLEASE GET HOME SAFE AGAIN 343 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 WITH JUST THE SENSE OF 344 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 DISBELIEF, TRYING TO PROCESS 345 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 REPLAYING THOSE EVENTS OVER AND 346 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 OVER IN YOUR HEAD. THAT'S WHAT 347 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 EVERYONE HERE THAT THAT WAS 348 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 INSIDE OF THAT TRUMP RALLY IS 349 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 STILL HAVING TO CONTEND WITH AS 350 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 THEY PROCESS THE MOMENTS THAT 351 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 HAPPENED, THOSE FRANTIC AND 352 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 CHAOTIC MOMENTS OF WHAT THEY 353 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 WITNESSED INSIDE WITH. 354 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 >> YEAH, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT 355 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT 356 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,000 OF TRAUMA AFTER THIS EVENT FOR 357 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 ALL OF THOSE WITNESSES WHO WERE 358 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,000 THERE. WATCH THIS UNFOLD BEFORE 359 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 THEIR VERY EYES. AND ALSO 360 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW, ONE OF 361 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 THEIR ONE OF THEIR FELLOW 362 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 SUPPORTERS, SOMEBODY WHO WAS 363 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 JUST THERE, PART OF THE RALLY, 364 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 AT LEAST ONE PERSON LOST THEIR 365 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 LIFE TODAY. RACHEL SCOTT. AND TO 366 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 YOU, WE CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH 367 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 FOR ALL YOUR REPORTING 368 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. STAND B. 369 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IF NEWS 370 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 DEVELOPS. BUT LET'S BRING IN 371 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,000 JOHN COHEN TONIGHT, ABC NEWS 372 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 CONTRIBUTOR, FORMER FBI. JOHN, 373 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS 374 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS NOW WITH THIS 375 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 INVESTIGATION. TAKE US THROUGH 376 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 THIS PROCESS. WHERE DO THEY 377 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 BEGIN? 378 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 >> WELL, THE FIRST THING THEY'RE 379 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GOING TO 380 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 IDENTIFY THE SUSPECT. THEY'RE 381 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 GOING TO TRY TO DETERMINE 382 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 THROUGH BY EVALUATING THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA, THEIR 383 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 COMMUNICATIONS, THEIR 384 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE 385 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 THAT THEY ARE ASSOCIATES WITH, 386 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 WHETHER THIS WAS AN ACT OF A 387 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 LONE OFFENDER OR WHETHER IT WAS 388 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 PART OF A BROADER CONSPIRACY. 389 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING 390 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 FOR ANY TYPE OF FOLLOW ON 391 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 EVENTS, PART OF THE DANGER IN A 392 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 SITUATION LIKE THIS IS THAT 393 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 PEOPLE MAY VIEW THIS AS EITHER 394 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 AN ACT TO BE REPLICATED OR MAY 395 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 SEEK TO RESPOND. SO LAW 396 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 ENFORCEMENT VERY QUICKLY ACROSS 397 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 THE COUNTRY, QUITE FRANKLY, IS 398 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO 399 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 PREVENT ANY RESIDUAL EVENTS 400 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 FOLLOWING THIS INCIDENT. 401 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 >> JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 402 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 AND WE DO KNOW THAT THE FBI IS 403 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 JOINING THE SECRET SERVICE IN 404 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 THIS INVESTIGATION. LET'S GO 405 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 BACK TO MARTHA RADDATZ. MARTHA, 406 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOURCES, 407 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 ALSO A MILITARY SOURCES, AND YOU 408 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 HAVE SOME NEW INFORMATION. WHAT 409 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 YOU'RE LEARNING ABOUT THE 410 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 WEAPON. >> WELL, WE KNOW FROM OUR OWN 411 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 REPORTING FROM AARON KATERSKY 412 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 AND OTHERS HERE AT ABC THAT THEY 413 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 BELIEVE IT WAS AN AR 15 AND THAT 414 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 THE SHOOTER GOT OFF EIGHT ROUNDS 415 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 TALKING TO A MILITARY SOURCE WHO 416 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,000 SAID IT IS THE SAME THING AS AN 417 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 M4, WHICH THEY USE IN THE 418 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 MILITARY. WE TRAIN TO SHOOT AT 419 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 OUR RANGES OUT TO 300M WITHOUT 420 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,000 OPTICS OR A SCOPE. A GOOD 421 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 SHOOTER CAN EASILY SHOOT FURTHER 422 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 WITH AN OPTIC THAT'S ABOUT 330 423 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 YARDS, AND IT'S BELIEVED THE 424 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,000 SHOOTER WAS 200 TO 300 YARDS OU. 425 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 THIS MILITARY OFFICER SAID THE 426 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 300 YARDS IS DEFINITELY IN RANG. 427 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 NOT AN EASY SHOT, BUT 100% IN 428 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 RANGE. AND THIS IS VERY SOBERING 429 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 WIT, HE SAID. I AM SURPRISED HE 430 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,000 DIDN'T HIT HIM. WE DO KNOW THAT 431 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 HIS EAR WAS GRAZED AND NOT 432 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 CERTAIN EXACTLY HOW THAT 433 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 HAPPENED AT THIS POINT, ALTHOUGH 434 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 DONALD TRUMP SAID HE BELIEVED IT 435 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 WAS A BULLET GOING BY HIM. BUT I 436 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 AM SURPRISED HE DIDN'T HIT HIM. 437 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 THIS THIS MILITARY OFFICER ALSO 438 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 SAYS THAT IT WAS LIKELY, GIVEN 439 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 THE SOUNDS HE HAS BEEN LISTENING 440 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 TO ALL DAY ON THAT. ON THAT TAPE 441 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,000 THAT WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING AND 442 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000 THAT DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF HEARD 443 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 AND EVERYBODY THERE WHO WAS 444 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 THERE THAT IT WAS FAR AWAY, BUT 445 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 THAT PERHAPS THE SHOOTER TRIED 446 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 ONE SHOT, MISSED AND THEN GOT 447 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 OFF SEVERAL VERY RAPIDLY JUST 448 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 INTO THE CROWD. 449 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 >> YEAH, 2 TO 300 YARDS AWAY. 450 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 AND THAT SHOOTER ON TOP OF A 451 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 ROOF. AND MARTHA, TO YOUR POINT, 452 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 IT IS WORTH EMPHASIZING THAT I 453 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 MEAN, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP 454 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,000 SAYS THAT HE HEARD THE BULLET 455 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 WHIZZING BY AND THAT IT PIERCED 456 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 THE TOP OF HIS EAR, LITERALLY 457 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 INCHES AWAY FROM TAKING HIS 458 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,000 LIFE. >> IT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE BEEN 459 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 IF IT, IN FACT, HAS PROVEN TO BE 460 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 A BULLET THAT WENT RIGHT BY HIS 461 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,000 EAR. MILLIMETERS. MILLIMETERS 462 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 AND, YOU KNOW, THE WAY YOU TURN 463 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 YOUR HEAD OR YOU DON'T TURN YOUR 464 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 HEAD. AND AGAIN, THAT WE HAVE TO 465 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,000 EMPHASIZE THIS WAS CLEARLY IN 466 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 RANGE FOR A WEAPON LIKE THAT, 467 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 WHETHER THE SHOOTER HAD A SCOPE, 468 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 WHETHER THE SHOOTER DID NOT HAVE 469 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 A SCOPE, EVEN WITHOUT A SCOPE, 470 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 THIS MILITARY OFFICER SAYS, YOU 471 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,000 CAN YOU CAN TAKE SOMEONE OUT AT 472 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 THAT RANGE. AGAIN, THE DANGERS 473 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,000 OF THESE KINDS OF EVENTS WITH 474 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 PEOPLE WAY OUTSIDE OF THE EVENT 475 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 ITSELF, WAY OUTSIDE SECURITY. 476 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE SECRET 477 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000 SERVICE IS GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK 478 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 AT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WEL. 479 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 HOW THIS PERSON GOT ON THAT ROOF 480 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 UNDETECTED BY POLICE OR ANYONE 481 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 ELSE CARRYING A RIFLE UP THERE 482 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,000 CARRYING AN AR 15. 483 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 >> AND AGAIN, WE STILL DON'T 484 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000 HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE 485 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000 THREAT ITSELF. THE MOTIVE WHO 486 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 THE SHOOTER WAS. WE HAVEN'T EVEN 487 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 BEEN TOLD BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, 488 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY THINK THE 489 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 THREAT IS OVER. SO STILL A LOT 490 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,000 MORE INFORMATION TO COME. 491 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 MARTHA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE 492 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 APPRECIATE IT. AS ALWAYS. AND 493 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 THROUGHOUT THE EVENING HERE, 494 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000 WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH MANY 495 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 OTHER EYEWITNESSES. YOU HEARD 496 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 FROM RACHEL EARLIER. WE SPOKE TO 497 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 SOME LIVE ON THE AIR WHO WERE AT 498 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 THE RALLY, DESCRIBING HOW THE 499 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,000 FORMER PRESIDENT HAD JUST 500 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,000 STARTED TO SPEAK. AND THEN THE 501 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 SHOTS RANG OUT. 502 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,000 >> WHAT YOU SAW AND WHAT YOU 503 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 HEARD, YOU SAID THAT YOU HEARD 504 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 THE POPPING SOUNDS AND YOU GOT 505 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 DOWN SOUNDS. 506 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 >> AT FIRST YOU THINK LIKE MAYBE 507 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 FIRECRACKERS, BUT IT CONTINUED. 508 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 IT CONTINUED. AND THEN SOMEBODY 509 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 YELLED, GET DOWN! WE GOT DOWN, 510 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 WE GOT DOWN AND WE HUDDLED AND 511 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,000 WE STARTED PRAYING. AND WE JUST 512 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 STARTED PRAYING. AND THANK GOD, 513 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 A LITTLE WHILE LATER, WE GOT UP 514 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 WHEN WE SAW OTHER PEOPLE GET UP, 515 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 WE SAW TRUMP GET UP, RAISE HIS 516 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 FIST LIKE LIKE, I'M OKAY. AND WE 517 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 WERE JUST WE JUST WE JUST WE 518 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 KEPT PRAYING. >> I FELT REALLY BAD. I, I'M 519 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 WORRIED ABOUT OUR GRANDCHILDREN. 520 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 WHAT KIND OF WHAT KIND OF LIFE 521 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE IF THIS 522 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 GOES ON? IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE 523 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT? 524 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,000 >> YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE 525 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 NEAR THE VERY FRONT. YOU WEREN'T 526 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,000 VERY FAR. NO. 527 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 >> WE WERE LIKE, FROM HERE TO 528 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 WHERE THAT DUST THING IS, IT'S. 529 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,000 AND IT'S. 530 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,000 >> AND YOU GOT DOWN. YOU SAID 531 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 YOU GOT DOWN IMMEDIATELY. YEAH, 532 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 YEAH. >> EVERYBODY YELLED GET DOWN. MY 533 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 I SAID TO TRUMP MY DAUGHTER IN 534 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 LAW LISA. SHE SAID FOR US TO 535 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 HURRY UP AND GET DOWN. 536 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 >> WELL I MEAN I SAW LIKE EVERY, 537 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 ALL THE LIKE SECRET SERVICE LIKE 538 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 KIND OF COVER TRUMP. THEY DID A 539 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,000 REALLY GOOD JOB ABOUT THAT. 540 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 MAKING MAKING SURE HE WAS 541 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 PROTECTED, TELLING EVERYONE TO 542 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,000 GET DOWN. SO I THINK THEY DID 543 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 TAKE A GOOD CARE OF LIKE MAKING 544 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 SURE EVERYONE WAS LIKE UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS GOING ON 545 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 AND LIKE BEING SERIOUS, BUT NOT 546 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000 FREAKING EVERYBODY OUT. 547 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 >> WHAT WAS YOUR INITIAL 548 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD THOSE 549 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 POPPING NOISES, 550 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,000 >> TO GET DOWN? YEAH. SO I 551 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 ACTUALLY LIKE MY BOYFRIEND 552 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 PUSHED ME ON THE GROUND AND 553 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 LIKE, WENT ON TOP OF ME, WHICH 554 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,000 WAS LIKE REALLY NICE. BUT I 555 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 THINK, A LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK 556 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000 WERE A LITTLE, LIKE, TOO SHOCKED 557 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON 558 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,000 ORIGINALLY, FOR SURE. BUT I 559 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,000 THINK, I THINK EVERYONE LISTENED 560 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 PRETTY WELL. AND IT IT WAS 561 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,000 HANDLED PRETTY WELL. 562 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 >> DID YOU SEE SOME OF THAT 563 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000 COMMOTION THAT WAS PLAYING OUT 564 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,000 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 565 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 BLEACHER, WHERE WE SAW LAW 566 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,000 ENFORCEMENT AGENTS SORT OF SWARM 567 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000 AROUND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, OR 568 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 DID YOU ULTIMATELY JUST RUSH OU, 569 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 >> NO. WE WERE THERE FOR A 570 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 MINUTE BECAUSE THEY DID TELL US 571 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 TO GO BACK DOWN AGAIN, JUST IN 572 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 CASE. I THINK THAT WAS GOOD 573 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 BECAUSE IT HELPED. LIKE CALM 574 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 PEOPLE DOWN, BUT I THINK ONE OF 575 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 THE STANDS THAT I WAS NEXT TO, 576 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,000 THEY DID LIKE CARRY OUT A MAN, 577 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT 578 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,000 MIGHT HAVE BEEN INJURED. I'M NOT 579 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000 100% SURE, BUT DEFINITELY ONE AT 580 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 LEAST. AND ON THE OTHER, STAND 581 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 ON THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE I WAS 582 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 ON THE RIGHT. ON THE LEFT, THERE 583 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 WERE LIKE A BUNCH OF, LIKE MEN 584 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000 IN UNIFORM, LIKE SURROUNDING 585 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,000 SOMEONE. SO THAT WAS INTERESTING 586 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,000 TO SEE. 587 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,000 >> YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE VERY 588 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 IMPRESSED BY THE SPEED IN WHICH 589 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,000 SECRET SERVICE WAS ABLE TO GET 590 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,000 ON THAT STAGE. WITHIN SECONDS OF 591 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 ALL OF US HEARING THOSE POPPING 592 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,000 SOUNDS. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THEY DID A 593 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 GREAT JOB. I DEFINITELY FELT 594 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 PROTECTED IN THE SITUATION. THE 595 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,000 SNIPER WAS ON IT, WATCHING ON 596 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 GUARD. EVERYONE ON THE SCENE 597 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 LIKE DID A GREAT JOB. I MEAN, 598 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 LIKE, OF COURSE IT WAS LIKE 599 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 NERVE WRACKING IN THE MOMENT, 600 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 BUT I NEVER FELT LIKE I WAS LIKE 601 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,000 IN DANGER, WHICH WAS COOL. THEY 602 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 WERE ON THE PRESIDENT, WHICH I'M 603 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 VERY THANKFUL OF, AND THEY DID A 604 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,000 GREAT JOB, LIKE PROTECTING HIM 605 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 AND GETTING HIM OUT AS QUICK AS 606 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000 POSSIBLE, HE IS DOING GOOD, 607 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,000 WHICH IS GOOD. YEAH. 608 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 >> I WAS, I'M THE REPUBLICAN 609 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 NOMINEE FOR, FOR THE SENATE IN 610 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 PENNSYLVANIA. I WAS IN THE FRONT 611 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,000 ROW, AND, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP 612 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 HAD JUST, ANNOUNCED ME AND SAID 613 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,000 HE WAS GOING TO HAVE ME COME UP 614 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 ON THE STAGE AND SAID, WELL, 615 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 WE'LL WAIT A MINUTE. AND THEN 616 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 THERE WERE A NUMBER OF SHOTS. I 617 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 THINK PROBABLY 7 OR 8 SHOTS. IT 618 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 IT WASN'T CLEAR WHETHER THEY 619 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 WERE COMING FROM A ONE PLACE OR 620 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 TWO PLACES AT LEAST. I COULDN'T 621 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 TELL. AND IMMEDIATELY THERE WAS 622 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 A SWARM OF SECRET SERVICE 623 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 OFFICERS THAT, YOU KNOW, GOT ON 624 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 TOP OF AND KNOCKED DOWN 625 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000 PRESIDENT TRUMP AND GOT ON TOP 626 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,000 OF HIM. AND, AND THEN HE, THEY 627 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 HE STOOD BACK UP AND YOU SORT OF 628 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 SAW THIS FIST COME OUT SORT OF, 629 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 DEFIANT THAT, THAT IT LOOKED 630 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 LIKE HE WAS OKAY, BUT BUT I, YOU 631 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 KNOW, YOU COULDN'T TELL FOR SUR. 632 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS SOME 633 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 BLOOD, BUT IT WASN'T OBVIOUS. 634 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 AND THEN THE ENTIRE CROWD WENT 635 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 TO THE GROUND BECAUSE WE WEREN'T 636 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 SURE WHETHER THE SHOTS WERE 637 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 DONE. AND THEN, UNFORTUNATELY, 638 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,000 OVER MY SHOULDER, SOMEONE HAD 639 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000 CLEARLY BEEN HIT. I WAS ON THE I 640 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 WAS IN THE ON THE GROUND AND UP 641 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 IN THE BLEACHERS, PROBABLY 3 OR 642 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 4 BLEACHERS UP BEHIND ME, IT 643 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A MAN WHO 644 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,000 WAS IT WAS SEVERELY INJURED. 645 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 THERE WAS A LOT OF BLOOD. AND, 646 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 AND HIS PEOPLE AROUND HIM WERE 647 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 TRYING TO ADMINISTER FIRST AID. 648 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 AND THEN, THE POLICE, SOME 649 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 POLICE OFFICERS CAME IN AND 650 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 CARRIED HIM OUT AND PRESUMABLY 651 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,000 TOOK HIM TO GET, FIRST, YOU 652 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 KNOW, FIRST AID. THAT'S REALLY 653 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 ALL I COULD SEE. I DON'T KNOW IF 654 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE INJURED, 655 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,000 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS 656 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 ANYBODY APPREHENDED, BECAUSE, AS 657 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 YOU MIGHT IMAGINE IT, ONCE THAT 658 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,000 HAPPENED, THE CROWD WAS, IT WAS 659 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 VERY CHAOTIC, AND IT WAS VERY 660 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 HARD TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 661 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 AND WE'RE STILL THERE AT THE 662 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 RALLY, JUST SITTING, TRYING TO 663 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 GET OUT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS 664 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000 SO BACKED UP. 665 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 >> AND DAVE, YOUR, YOUR ACCOUNT 666 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000 SEEMS TO CONFIRM SOME OF THIS 667 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 REPORTING THAT WE'RE GETTING 668 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 ABOUT A SHOOTER AND POTENTIAL 669 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 BYSTANDERS WHO WERE HURT, JUST 670 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 TALK MORE ABOUT YOUR INITIAL 671 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000 REACTION. I MEAN, SEEING THIS, 672 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 YOU'RE RUNNING FOR SENATE IN THE 673 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. YOU'RE 674 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 ABOUT TO WALK UP ON THE STAGE, 675 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 YOU'RE GETTING INTRODUCED BY THE 676 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,000 FORMER PRESIDENT, AND THEN YOU 677 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 HEAR THESE SHOTS RING OUT AND 678 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 THE CHAOS IN THE CROWD, WHAT WAS 679 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND IN THAT 680 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,000 MOMENT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT TAKES 681 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 A MINUTE TO PROCESS YOU PEOPLE 682 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 STARTED TO PANIC, ALL AROUND. 683 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 YOU COULD FEEL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE 684 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 WERE VERY SCARED AND SO, YOU 685 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 KNOW, EVERYBODY JUST DROPPED TO 686 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 THE GROUND AND, YOU KNOW, IT 687 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 FELT VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE 688 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000 PRESIDENT WAS UNDER ASSAULT, YOU 689 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 KNOW, AND VERY MUCH AT RISK. AND 690 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 IT WASN'T CLEAR THAT HE WAS OKAY 691 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 TO BEGIN WITH. AND THEN, YOU 692 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000 KNOW, ONCE IT STARTED TO SINK 693 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 IN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THINKING, 694 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000 ARE THERE STILL SHOOTERS OUT 695 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000 THERE? YOU KNOW, ARE THEY, YOU 696 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000 KNOW, ARE THEY GOING TO TARGET 697 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 OTHER PEOPLE? AND, YOU KNOW, IT 698 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 WAS JUST LIKE THESE, YOU KNOW, 699 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 SITUATIONS I WAS IN I WAS IN THE 700 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000 MILITARY PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, 701 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 YOU REALIZE OVER TIME THAT THE 702 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000 FACTS START TO COME TOGETHER. SO 703 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO 704 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000 DRAW TOO MANY CONCLUSIONS EARLY 705 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 ON. BUT I THINK WHAT WE ALL FELT 706 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 WAS A SENSE OF, OH, MY LORD, 707 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,000 WE'RE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S IN 708 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 DANGER BECAUSE THERE'S CLEARLY A 709 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,000 SHOOTER, AT LEAST ONE SHOOTER IN 710 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000 THE CROWD AND MAYBE MORE. AND, 711 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 YOU KNOW, REALLY, I THINK SCARY 712 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 FOR EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE AND 713 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 SHOCKING MORE, EVEN MORE THAN 714 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 SCARY. JUST SHOCKING BECAUSE 715 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,000 YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS 716 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000 RALLY AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND 717 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 OF FUN. AND PEOPLE WERE, YOU 718 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 KNOW, ENTHUSIASTIC AND, AND, AND 719 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 ALL OF A SUDDEN THE, YOU KNOW, 720 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 THE TURN WAS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. 721 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 >> WHAT DOES THIS SAY TO YOU 722 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 ABOUT OUR STATE OF DIVISION AND 723 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 THE POLITICS IN THIS COUNTRY 724 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,000 RIGHT NOW? 725 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT 726 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 TO DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS BEFORE I 727 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000 KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU 728 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000 KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, 729 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 IF YOU'RE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, IF 730 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 YOU'RE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE 731 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 AND YOU KNOW, YOUR SAFETY IS AT 732 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 RISK, THAT'S SCARY FOR ALL OF 733 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 US. NO MATTER WHAT PARTY YOU'RE 734 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 IN. AND SO I THINK IT'S, YOU 735 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A 736 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 MOMENT TO TAKE STOCK AND, YOU 737 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 KNOW, YOU HAD 15,000. IT SEEMED, 738 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 YOU KNOW, IT WAS A HUGE CROWD. I 739 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 WAS TOLD BY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT 740 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 PEOPLE THERE, 15,000 PEOPLE WHO 741 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000 WERE ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTING THEIR CANDIDATE. AND ALL OF A 742 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000 SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER 743 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 PRESIDENT, HIS LIFE IS AT RISK. 744 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 AND WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE 745 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 PEACEFUL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE 746 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE ARE WOUNDED, 747 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000 POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, FATALLY. 748 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I MEAN, THAT'S A THAT'S 749 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000 UNACCEPTABLE. AND IT'S NOT A 750 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,000 MATTER OF PARTY. THAT'S JUST 751 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 UNACCEPTABLE IN OUR IN OUR GREAT 752 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 COUNTRY. 753 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 >> I DO WANT TO GO TO LEONARD 754 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 VERDEJO, WHO IS AN EYEWITNESS 755 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000 WHO WAS THERE AT THE RALLY 756 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,000 TODAY. HE'S JOINING US NOW ON 757 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 THE PHONE. LEONARD, CAN YOU HEAR 758 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000 ME? 759 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 >> YES, I CAN HEAR YOU, SIR. HOW 760 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000 ARE YOU DOING? THANKS FOR HAVING 761 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000 ME ON. 762 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000 >> ABSOLUTELY. LEONARD. WE'RE SO 763 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 WE'RE SO GRATEFUL THAT THAT YOU 764 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000 ARE. OKAY, CAN YOU JUST WALK US 765 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000 THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT 766 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000 YOU SAW? >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY. SO 767 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED TO SEE THE 768 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000 FORMER PRESIDENT COMING OUT. YOU 769 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000 KNOW, WE WERE WE WERE ALL, YOU 770 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 KNOW, EXCITED. AND, YOU KNOW, WE 771 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 WERE ALL HAPPY. WE WERE ALL 772 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 JOYFUL. YOU KNOW, WE WERE YOU 773 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 KNOW, WE WERE ALL THERE FOR EACH 774 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,000 OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEN THE FORMER 775 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,000 PRESIDENT WAS GIVING HIS SPEECH. 776 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000 THEN MOMENTS LATER, THERE WAS 777 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 SOME, YOU KNOW, POPPING SOUNDS 778 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000 THAT WERE GOING OFF. THERE WERE 779 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000 ABOUT MAYBE SIX OR 7 TO 8 SHOTS 780 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000 THAT WERE HAPPENING. NO ONE, 781 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000 NONE OF US REALLY REGISTERED AT 782 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 THE TIME. BUT THEN PEOPLE WERE 783 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 SAYING, GET DOWN, GET DOWN. EVEN 784 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 I WAS SAYING GET DOWN. OTHER 785 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000 PEOPLE WERE SAYING GET DOWN AS 786 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000 WELL. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL 787 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 PRAYING. WE WERE PRAYING TO 788 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 YESHUA, THE LORD JESUS AND WE 789 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 WERE PRAYING TO HIM TO KEEP US 790 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 SAFE, KEEP US PROTECTED. BUT 791 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENED 792 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,000 WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DID GET 793 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 SHOT. WHAT I DO HEAR IS THAT I 794 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 THINK TWO PEOPLE DID GET SHOT. 795 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 YOU KNOW THAT TO THE BEST OF MY 796 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000 KNOWLEDGE, AND I BELIEVE THAT 797 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 YOU KNOW, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, 798 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000 WHICH I'M GLAD HE IS SAFE. SO 799 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 NOW, LEONARD, AND AGAIN, WE 800 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000 DON'T HAVE ALL THESE THINGS 801 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 CONFIRMED YET. >> SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS 802 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 YOUR PERSPECTIVE HERE. BUT WHEN 803 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000 YOU SAY THAT, YOU BELIEVE THAT 804 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 TWO PEOPLE WERE SHOT, COULD YOU 805 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000 ACTUALLY SEE PEOPLE, POTENTIAL 806 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000 VICTIMS WHAT TO WHAT I, WHAT I 807 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 SEEN AND TO THE BEST OF MY 808 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 KNOWLEDGE, SIR, IS THAT, YOU 809 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 KNOW AND AGAIN, I WAS HEARING IT 810 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 FROM OTHER NEWS SOURCES AS WELL. 811 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 >> BUT WHAT THAT I SEEN WHAT I 812 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000 PERSONALLY SEEN THAT THERE WAS 813 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 BLOOD ON A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, YOU 814 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 KNOW, SOMEONE WAS SHOT JUST LIKE 815 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 ABOUT FIVE FEET RIGHT BEHIND US, 816 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO WE 817 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 WERE THAT CLOSE. AND THANK GOD 818 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 WE WEREN'T SHOT EITHER. >> AND WHERE WERE YOU LOCATED? 819 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 WERE YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE 820 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 VIDEO RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE 821 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000 FORMER PRESIDENT BEING BROUGHT 822 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000 BACK TO HIS FEET AFTER THOSE 823 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 SHOTS WERE FIRED. WERE YOU ON ON 824 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 THE STANDS BEHIND DONALD TRUMP 825 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000 OR WERE YOU IN FRONT OF HIM? 826 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000 >> IF YOU WERE LOOKING EXACTLY 827 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000 AT HIM, WE'LL BE ON THE LEFT 828 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 SIDE. ACTUALLY, WE WERE THE LEFT 829 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000 SIDE OF THE OTHER STANDS WHERE 830 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 YOU'VE SEEN THOSE BIG TVS. 831 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000 >> SO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE 832 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 STANDS FACING THE PRESIDENT OR 833 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000 BEHIND THE FORMER PRESIDENT, 834 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000 FACING THE PRESIDENT. >> WE WERE MORE ON THE SIDES 835 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 LOOKING ON THE SIDE OF THE 836 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 PRESIDENT. SO FACING HIM. 837 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 >> AND, LEONARD, LET ME JUST ASK 838 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000 YOU TO OBVIOUSLY, YOU GO TO THIS 839 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 IS THIS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 840 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000 THIS, THE DIVISION IN THIS 841 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 COUNTRY, THE POLARIZATION. BUT 842 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 HERE YOU ARE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE 843 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 YOU'RE EXERCISING YOUR RIGHT TO, 844 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000 YOU KNOW, SUPPORT WHICHEVER 845 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,000 POLITICIAN YOU BELIEVE IN. AND 846 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000 YOU GO TO AN EVENT LIKE THIS, 847 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 YOU DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE 848 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,000 VIOLENCE. WHAT'S IN YOUR HEART 849 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 RIGHT NOW? >> WELL, WHAT'S IN THE HEART 850 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 RIGHT NOW AS I'M ENCOURAGING THE 851 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PRAY TO LORD 852 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000 JESUS BECAUSE, RIGHT NOW OUR 853 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 COUNTRY IS DIVIDED. 854 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000 >> AGAIN, THOSE WORDS FROM SOME 855 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 OF THE WITNESSES THAT WE HEARD 856 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 FROM THROUGHOUT THE HOURS THIS 857 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 EVENING, WHO WERE THERE INSIDE 858 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 THIS VENUE IN BUTLER, 859 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 PENNSYLVANIA, THE VENUE THE 860 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000 EVENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SORT OF 861 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 A PRECURSOR FOR THE BIG WEEK AT 862 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL 863 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 CONVENTION. FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HAD BEEN HINTING 864 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 THAT HE WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE 865 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000 HIS RUNNING MATE IN THE COMING 866 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 DAYS. SO ALL EYES WERE ON THIS 867 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,000 EVENT WHEN THE GUNFIRE RANG OUT. 868 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 AND THEN THOSE TERRIFYING 869 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000 MOMENTS AND THESE IMAGES, YOU 870 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000 CONTINUE TO SEE HERE WITH THE 871 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000 FORMER PRESIDENT BEING ESCORTED 872 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 OFF THE STAGE WITH THE BLOOD 873 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 TRICKLING DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE OF 874 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000 HIS FACE, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, 875 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,000 IN A STATEMENT ONCE AGAIN SAYING 876 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000 THAT HE WAS SHOT WITH A BULLET 877 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,000 THAT PIERCED THE UPPER PART OF 878 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 HIS RIGHT EAR AND HE IMMEDIATELY 879 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000 KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG 880 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,000 WHEN HE HEARD THE WHIZZING 881 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,000 SOUNDS AND THE SHOTS, SOME OF 882 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 OUR OTHER REPORTERS GETTING 883 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 INFORMATION FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT 884 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 THAT THEY NOW CONFIRM THAT THE 885 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 SHOOTER FIRED AS MANY AS EIGHT 886 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 ROUNDS FROM AN AR STYLE RIFLE 887 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 WHILE PERCHED ON A ROOFTOP 888 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 ADJACENT TO THE VENUE. THE 889 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 SHOOTER WAS 200 TO 300 YARDS 890 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000 AWAY AT THE TIME OF THE GUNFIRE, 891 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 AND THAT SHOOTER WAS SHOT AND 892 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 KILLED BY THE US SECRET SERVICE. 893 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,000 WE KNOW AT LEAST ONE SPECTATOR, 894 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 POSSIBLY TWO, WERE SHOT AND 895 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000 KILLED. ONE OF THEM WE KNOW WAS 896 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,000 CONFIRMED DEAD. ANOTHER ONE 897 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 SUSTAINED SERIOUS INJURIES. 898 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 WE'RE STILL WAITING TO GET MORE 899 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000 INFORMATION ON THAT. LAW 900 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000 ENFORCEMENT ALSO UNABLE TO TELL 901 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 US AT THIS TIME WHAT THE 902 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000 MOTIVATION WAS, WHO THE SHOOTER 903 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000 WAS, WHETHER IT WAS A MAN OR A 904 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 WOMAN, AND WHETHER THE THREAT 905 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 FULLY HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED OR 906 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 WHETHER IT WAS A LONE ACTOR. SO 907 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 STILL, SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT 908 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 WE NEED TO LEARN THROUGHOUT THE 909 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 COURSE OF THE EVENING AND IN THE 910 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 COMING DAYS. WELL, LET'S GO BACK 911 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 TO OUR ENTIRE TEAM WHO'VE BEEN 912 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 WITH US ON THE AIR FOR SEVERAL 913 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 HOURS NOW. JOHN KARL IS IN 914 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000 MILWAUKEE BECAUSE THAT WAS 915 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 SUPPOSED TO BE THE LOCATION FOR 916 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000 ALL THE NEWS THIS WEEK AT THE 917 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION. 918 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 JOHN, YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO 919 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 REPUBLICAN SOURCES THERE. IN 920 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 FACT, YOU WERE IN AN INTERVIEW 921 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 WHEN REPORTS OF THESE SHOTS 922 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000 FIRST CAME OUT. 923 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 >> I WASN'T IN A FORMAL 924 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 INTERVIEW, BUT I WAS STANDING ON 925 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,000 THE FLOOR OF THE CONVENTION WITH 926 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 THE PERSON WHO WAS RUNNING THIS 927 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 CONVENTION, MICHAEL WHATLEY, THE 928 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 CHAIRMAN OF THE REPUBLICAN 929 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,000 NATIONAL COMMITTEE. WE WERE 930 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000 JUST, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT 931 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 THE BIG WEEKS PLANS AHEAD, 932 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 SPECULATING ON WHEN TRUMP WILL 933 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 ACTUALLY MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT 934 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 OF HIS RUNNING MATE WHEN THIS 935 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000 NEWS BROKE. AND AS YOU CAN 936 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000 IMAGINE, SHOCK WAVES THROUGHOUT 937 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000 THE HALL. NOBODY REALLY HAD ANY 938 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 IDEA YET WHAT HAD HAPPENED OTHER 939 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,000 THAN THOSE INITIAL REPORTS AND 940 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 THAT SHOCKING LIVE VIDEO. HE 941 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 TOOK A CALL FROM ONE OF HIS 942 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 AIDES AND WAS WHISKED OFF THE 943 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000 FLOOR TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 944 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 WAS GOING ON. THIS HAS 945 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000 EFFECTIVELY PUT A FREEZE ON THE 946 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000 CAMPAIGN, AT LEAST FOR THE 947 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 MOMENT, AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE 948 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 IN MILWAUKEE WHERE, ALTHOUGH THE 949 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000 CONVENTION IS STARTING ON 950 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 MONDAY, YOU ARE ALREADY SEEING 951 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 REPUBLICANS FROM ACROSS THE 952 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000 COUNTRY GATHER HERE. IN FACT, 953 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000 THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG 954 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000 WELCOME RECEPTION TONIGHT. AS 955 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT HAS BEEN 956 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 CANCELED. ALL EVENTS, THE 957 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000 PRE-CONVENTION EVENTS HAVE BEEN 958 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000 CANCELED OVER ON THE DEMOCRATIC 959 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000 SIDE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE BIDEN 960 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 CAMPAIGN THAT THEY HAVE STOPPED 961 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 OUTGOING COMMUNICATIONS. THEY 962 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 SAY THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO 963 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 PULL DOWN ALL OF THE POLITICAL 964 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000 AD TELEVISION ADVERTISING, ALL 965 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000 THE POLITICAL ADVERTISING THAT 966 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,000 IS UP, AS AS THIS CAMPAIGN IS 967 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 EFFECTIVELY PUT IN A STATE OF 968 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 DEEP FREEZE AND THEN WIT, WE'RE 969 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 HEARING STATEMENTS ACROSS THE 970 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 POLITICAL SPECTRUM. I THINK MOST 971 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 PROMINENTLY FROM FORMER PRESIDENTS. WE HEARD FROM 972 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000 PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH, WHO 973 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 SAID THAT LAURA AND I ARE 974 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 GRATEFUL THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 975 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 IS SAFE FOLLOWING THE COWARDLY 976 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,000 ATTACK ON HIS LIFE. HE COMMENDS 977 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000 THE SECRET SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, 978 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000 AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS ALSO 979 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000 PROTECTED BY THE SECRET SERVICE. 980 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 WE HEARD A SIMILAR STATEMENT 981 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 FROM BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA, 982 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 SIMILAR STATEMENT FROM BILL AND 983 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,000 HILLARY CLINTON. WE'VE HEARD A 984 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 STATEMENT, STATEMENTS FROM THE 985 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 PRESIDENT'S ALLIES AND FROM HIS 986 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 POLITICAL OPPONENTS, ALL SAYING 987 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000 THAT VIOLENCE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO 988 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000 PLACE IN AMERICAN POLITICS. 989 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,000 UNIFORMLY CONDEMNING THIS. BUT I 990 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 HAVE TO ALSO SAY WHAT WE ARE 991 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000 STARTING TO HEAR SOME VERY, 992 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000 UNFORTUNATE SIGNS OF EFFORTS TO 993 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 POLITICIZE THIS HORRIFIC EVENT. 994 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 >> THAT'S RIGHT. WE NOTED 995 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 BEFORE, THIS WILL BE A BIG TEST 996 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000 TO SEE HOW THE COUNTRY RESPONDS. 997 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000 YOU KNOW, POLITICALLY AND IN AND 998 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 IN LIVING ROOMS AND WORKPLACES 999 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000 ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. JOHN THANK 1000 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000 YOU SO MUCH. I DO WANT TO HEAR 1001 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000 FROM ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS 1002 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 THERE AT THE EVENT, WITNESSED 1003 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 THE GUNFIRE. RICO ELMORE IS 1004 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000 JOINING US NOW. RICO, IF YOU CAN 1005 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 HEAR ME, JUST TELL US WHERE YOU 1006 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000 WERE WHEN YOU FIRST HEARD THE 1007 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000 SHOTS, >> WAIT. >> THANK YOU. SO MUCH, 1008 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000 >> AND ALSO, WITH ALL DUE 1009 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 RESPECT, I MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO 1010 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000 THE FAMILY. WHEN THIS ALL 1011 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 OCCURRED, I KNOW IT'S VERY 1012 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 ROUGH, SO I WAS POSITIONED 1013 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000 PROBABLY ABOUT MAYBE 20FT AWAY 1014 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 FROM, THE PRESIDENT AT THE POINT 1015 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 IN TIME WHEN HE WAS MAKING HIS 1016 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 ADDRESS, I WAS TO THE RIGHT OF 1017 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000 THE STAGE DUE TO ME BEING A I 1018 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000 WAS A I WAS A SPEAKER AT THE 1019 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000 EVENT, SO I DID MY SPEECH 1020 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000 EARLIER TODAY, DOING A 1021 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000 PREPROGRAM. AND I WAS A FEW FEET 1022 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 FROM WHERE THIS ALL OCCURRED, WE 1023 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 HEARD THE SHOTS AND I THOUGHT IT 1024 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000 WAS FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS 1025 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000 FIREWORKS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 1026 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 PEOPLE WERE ON EDGE AND ANY KIND 1027 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000 OF LOUD BOOM YOU HEAR, YOU'RE 1028 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 GOING TO THINK GUNSHOTS 1029 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000 IMMEDIATELY. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE 1030 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 OF THE ENVIRONMENT OF WHAT WAS 1031 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,000 GOING ON. AND I TURNED AROUND 1032 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,000 AND SOMEONE YELLED, MEDIC! AND I 1033 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 LOOKED, AND THERE WAS NO WAY A 1034 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 MEDIC COULD HAVE GOT TO THAT 1035 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 PERSON IN TIME. SO I LEFT MY 1036 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000 SEAT, TOOK MY TIE OFF, I JUMPED 1037 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000 OVER THE BARRIER AND I RAN TO 1038 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 THE INDIVIDUAL. BUT WHEN I GOT 1039 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 THERE, IT WAS TOO LATE. THE 1040 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000 PERSON HAD WAS BLEEDING OUT, 1041 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000 THROUGH THEIR HEAD AND LIKE I 1042 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000 SAID, ONCE AGAIN, RESPECTS THE 1043 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000 FAMILY, BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS 1044 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 IS A VERY TOUGH TIME, BUT THEY 1045 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000 WERE SHOT AND I TRIED TO YOU