HOLIDAYS WE SAT DOWN WITH DONALD TRUMP TO TALK ABOUT HIS
PROSPECTS IN THE HOTLY CONTESTED
IOWA CAUCUS.
>> LOVE TO WIN IOWA.
I COULD HAVE SAID, NO, I WANT TO
WIN IOWA.
>> Dickerson: HIS THOUGHTS ABOUT NEW TERROR VIDEO FEATURING HIS
CONTROVERSIAL POSITION ON
MUSLIMS. >> TOTAL AND COMPLETE SHUT DOWN
OF MUSLIMS ENTERING THE UNITED
STATES.
>> Dickerson: DOES IT CONCERN
YOU THAT YOU'RE BEING USED IN
RECRUITMENT VIDEO BY TERRORISTS?
>> THEY USE OTHER PEOPLE, TOO.
I HAVE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO
SAY.
>> Dickerson: WEIGHS IN AN HILLARY CLINTON AND TED CHRIS
AND TALKS ABOUT PRIORITIES AND
STYLE AS PRESIDENT. >> I WOULD BE A MUCH DIFFERENT
PERSON I THINK AS PRESIDENT.
>> Dickerson: LOOK AHEAD AT WHAT
2016 WILL HOLD FOR THE BARGAINS
ISIS, U.S. FOREIGN POLICY AND
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S LAST YEAR IN
OFFICE.
IT'S ALL COMING UP ON "FACE THE
NATION."
Captioning sponsored by CBS
GOOD MORNING WELCOME TO "FACE THE NATION" I'M JOHN DICKERSON.
WE BEGIN THE NEW YEAR WITH
CAMPAIGN 2016 AND ONE OF THE
PEOPLE WHO CONTINUES TO SHAKE UP
THE POLITICAL WORLD, DONALD
TRUMP. WE CAUGHT UP WITH HIM AT HIS
HOME IN PALM BEACH ON NEW YEAR'S
DAY STARTED OUR CONVERSATION
WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA'S EXPECTED
PLAN FOR NEW EXECUTIVE ACTIONS
ON GUNS.
INCLUDING EXPANDING BACKGROUND
CHECKS PURCHASES AT GUN SHOWS WE
ASKED ALREADY TRUMP WHAT HE
THOUGHT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S
PLAN.
>> WELLY LIKE IT.
I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING HAVING TO
DO WITH CHANGING OUR SECOND
AMENDMENT. WE HAVE PLENTY OF RULES AND
REGULATIONS, THERE'S PLENTY OF
THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO RIGHT
NOW THAT ARE ALREADY THERE THAT.
WE HAVE TREMENDOUS MENTAL HEALTH
PROBLEM, WE'RE CLOSING PLACES
ALL OVER THE WORLD ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY THEY'RE CLOSING.
ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS BAN THE
GUNS.
IT'S NOT THE GUN THAT PULLS THE
TRIGGER. I DON'T LIKE IT. I DON'T LIKE WHAT HE'S DOING.
I THINK THAT HE'S LOOKING TO DO
EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO DO SOMETHING
HAVING TO DO WITH GUNS.
>> Dickerson: BACKGROUND CHECKS HAPPEN FOR NORMAL GUN PURCHASES
THAT ARE NORMAL STORE.
HIS ARGUMENT WOULD BE JUST DO IT
HERE, THIS LOOPHOLE YOU WANT TO
MAKE IT THE SAME EVERYWHERE.
>> BUT I DON'T LIKE CHANGING
ANYTHING. RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE PLENTY OF
RULES AND REGULATIONS THEY
SHOULD BE LOOKING AT MENTAL
HEALTH.
WE SHOULD BE INSTITUTIONS FOR
PEOPLE THAT ARE SICKOS ALL OVER
THE PLACE THAT'S THE PLACE HERE
IS THE PROBLEM.
I WOULD SPEND MORE MONEY ON
THIS. HERE IS THE PROBLEM, THE BAD
GUYS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GET THE
GUNS. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE
RESTRICTIONS YOU WANT.
THE BAD GUYS WILL ALWAYS HAVE
THE GUNS.
>> Dickerson: LET ME ASK YOU
ABOUT EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN
GENERAL, LIKE THEM, DON'T LIKE
THEM, THE PRESIDENT USES THEM TO
GO AROUND CONGRESS. >> WELL, I DON'T LIKE THEM.
OUR COUNTRY WASN'T BASED ON
EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
NOBODY REALLY KNEW WE EVEN HAD
EXECUTIVE ORDER SUCH A THING.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE YOU GET
ALONG WITH CONGRESS, YOU CAJOLE,
GO BACK AND FORTH ARE EVERYBODY
GETS IN A ROOM AND END UP WITH
DEALS. HIS COMPROMISE ON LOTS OF OTHER
THINGS, HE GIVING UP ON THE
PROCESS AN SIGNS EXECUTIVE
ORDERS. >> Dickerson: IF YOU WERE
PRESIDENT YOU SEEM LIKE KIND OF
GUY IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT YOU
MIGHT USE EXECUTIVE ORDER OR
TWO.
>> LOT OF PRECEDENT THAT HE'S
DOING. AMAZINGLY THE COURTS TOOK THAT
PACK A STEP AND DID SOMETHING
THAT WAS VERY SURPRISING WHICH
IS, THEY DID THE RIGHT THING.
SO THAT MAYBE THAT ONE I WOULD
BE RESCINDING A LOT OF EXECUTIVE
ORDERS THAT HE'S DONE.
ONLY GOOD ABOUT EXECUTIVE ORDER
THE NEW PRESIDENT COMES IN,
FIRST DAY FIRST HOUR, FIRST
MINUTE YOU CAN RESCIND THEM.
>> Dickerson: LET ME ASK YOU
ABOUT VIDEO BEING PUT OUT BY
ISIS GROUP DONALD J. TRUMP
CALLING FOR TOTAL AND COMPLETE
SHUT DOWN.
OF MUSLIMS ENTERING THE UNITED
STATES.
[ Cheering and Applause ]
CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT [BLEEP] IS
GOING ON.
>> Dickerson: THEN VIDEO GOES ON
SAYS, THE WEST WILL EVENTUALLY
TURN AGAINST ITS MUSLIM
CITIZENS. THEY ARE SAYING TO MUSLIMS
EITHER YOU JOIN JIHAD OR LEAVE
THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE OF
WHAT MR. TRUMP IS PROPOSING.
>> LOOK, HERE IS THE PROBLEM.
I BRING IT UP, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
CALLED ME THEY SAY YOU HAVE
GUTS TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE
FRANKLY IT'S TRUE.
BUT NOBODY WANTS TO GET
INVOLVED. NOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING INVOLVED.
PEOPLE THAT ARE ON DIFFERENT
PERSUASIONS THAN ME RIGHT NOW
JOHN, ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE TRUMP ISN'T WRONG.
WE WANT TO EXAMINE IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF BAD STUFF GOING
ON. I'M WATCHING THE NEWS TONIGHT
ACTUALLY CBS AND SO MANY OF
THE ELEMENTS, YOU LOOK AT
GERMANY, YOU LOOK AT BRUSSELS,
YOU LOOK ALL OVER THE WORLD
SHUTTING DOWN CITIES THAT NEVER
HAD A PROBLEM BEFORE.
THEY'RE SHUTTING DOWN COUNTRIES
THAT NEVER HAD A PROBLEM BEFORE.
YOU LOOK AT PARIS, WHAT
HAPPENED.
YOU LOOK AT CALIFORNIA, WHAT
HAPPENED.
MAYBE IT'S NOT POLITICALLY
CORRECT, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM NOW
WE HAVE TO SELL OFF THE PROBLEM
IDEA YOU'RE BEING USED IN
ESSENTIALLY RECRUITMENT VIDEO BY
TERRORIST ORGANIZATION?
>> THEY USE OTHER PEOPLE, TOO
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO.
I HAVE TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO
SAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO SAY
THERE'S A PROBLEM.
WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE
PROBLEM AND SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
>> Dickerson: DO YOU THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT -- THAT THE WEST
IS ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH
RADICAL ISLAM OR IS THIS JUST
ISIS IS THE PROBLEM?
>> I THINK RADICAL ISLAM MAY BE
ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH US.
YOU COULD CAKE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IT IS A VERY, VERY DEEP
SEEDED HATRED THAT'S GOING ON.
YOU HAVE A HATRED LIKE PEOPLE
WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIVES, I
HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT IS SO BIG
IT IS THE BIGGEST THING THERE IS
RIGHT NOW WHEN I WATCH
PRESIDENT OBAMA OUR BIGGEST
PROBLEM.
IT'S JUST -- HE DOESN'T WANT TO
USE THE WORDS RADICAL ISLAM.
ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH
RADICAL AND ISLAM.
SO UNTIL HE'S WILLING TO ADMIT
HOW CAN YOU NOT AT LEAST TALK
ABOUT THE PROBLEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE DONE I
BROUGHT THE PROBLEM UP.
THE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT
I'VE SAID. NOW BIG PARTS OF THE WORLD ARE
SAYING, TRUMP IS REALLY RIGHT AT
LEAST IDENTIFYING WHAT'S GOING
ON.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEM UNLESS YOU IDENTIFY IT.
>> Dickerson: LET ME ASK YOU
ABOUT THE PRESIDENCY.
WILL YOU TALK AS MUCH AS A
PRESIDENT AS YOU DO AS A
CANDIDATE?
WILL YOU BE -- WILL YOU BE ON TV
ALL THE TIME, GIVING RALLIES
THAT KIND OF THING?
>> WELL, I THINK I WOULD BE
GIVING RALLIES.
I WANT TO RALLY THIS COUNTRY
BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY HAS NO
SPIRIT. I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT TALK AS
MUCH.
I'M GOING TO ORIGINALLY 17
PEOPLE NOW 14 PEOPLE AND 13
PEOPLE LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO BE DROPPING OUT.
>> Dickerson: OUR CANDIDATES. >> OTHER CANDIDATES.
OBVIOUSLY I HAVE TO DO A LOT OF
TALKING, I'M GETTING HIT FROM 15
DIFFERENT SIDES I LIKE TO DEFEND
MYSELF. BUT I WOULD BE A MUCH DIFFERENT
PERSON I THINK AS PRESIDENT.
BUT I WOULD BE VERY
ENTHUSIASTIC LIKE I AM RIGHT
NOW TOWARD THE COUNTRY.
WE NEED SPIRIT.
WE NEED A CHEERLEADER.
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A BAD
CHEERLEADER. I THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A GOOD
CHEERLEADER, THAT'S ONE THING I THOUGHT THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
A GREAT CHEERLEADER.
HE'S REALLY A BIG DIVIDER.
WE NEED CHEERLEADING.
>> Dickerson: YOU TALKED TO SOME
OF OUR SUPPORTERS, A FEW OF THEM
SAID WHEN DONALD TRUMP GETS TO
BE PRESIDENT HE'LL HAVE PEOPLE
TO COACH HIM TAKE OFF THESE
ROUGH EDGES OF THE THINGS HE
SAYS.
ARE THEY RIGHT?
>> I DON'T THINK I HAVE ROUGH
EDGES, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I WENT TO IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL, I
WAS A GOOD STUDENT I WITHIN TO
THE WHARTON SCHOOL OF FINANCE
ONE OF THE GREAT SCHOOLS OF THE
WORLD.
AND I CAN BE MORE POLITICALLY
CORRECT THAN ANY COACH THAT THEY
CAN GET ME. I CAN BE THE MOST POLITICALLY
CORRECT PERSON WITH YOU.
I COULD SAY SOMETHING AT THE END
OF THIS INTERVIEW YOU WOULD SAY
WOW, WAS THAT BORING.
GIVE US --
>> Dickerson: GIVE US PERFECTLY
POLITICAL --
>> HERE IS THE PROBLEM WITH
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, TAKES TOO
LONG. WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT ANCHOR
BABIES AT ONE NEWS CONFERENCE.
AND ONE OF THE REPORTERS
ACTUALLY FROM ABC SAID, THAT'S
A DEROGATORY TERM.
I SAID, WHY?
HE SAID, WELL, HE DIDN'T KNOW
WHY. HE SAID, WHAT WOULD YOU CALL
THEM?
THE BABIES OF UNDOCUMENTED
IMMIGRANTS -- LIKE SEVEN OR
EIGHT WORD DEFINITION.
I'M SORRY WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR
THAT.
I CAN BE THE MOST POLITICALLY
CORRECT PERSON THAT YOU'VE EVER
INTERVIEWED.
TAKES TOO MUCH TIME.
>> Dickerson: ISN'T THERE A
COST? THINK OF ALL THE NAMES THEY CALL
YOU BECAUSE OF THE THINGS YOU
SAY. >> WELL, THINK OF THE FACT THAT
I'M LEADING IN THE POLL BY
TREMENDOUS MARGINS.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF IS TOO.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS, THEY'RE TIRED OF
IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HAS RESONATED WITH ME.
I DON'T GO OUT OF MY WAY TO BE
POLITICALLY INCORRECT.
WHEN.
>> Dickerson: THEN YOU THINK OF
THE PRESIDENCY, NOT THE SHOW
PART, WHAT SIT GOING TO BE LIKE?
DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THE
OPERATION? >> I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
HERE IS THE THING.
WHAT I THINK IS THE PROCESS, WE
HAVE LOT OF THINGS TO SELL.
HEALTH CARE PROBLEM THAT'S
INCREDIBLE.
OBAMACARE GOING UP 45%.
YOU SEE THE DEDUCTIBLE THAT'S
HAPPENING GOING UP SO HIGH NEVER
GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT.
YOU LOOK AT ISIS.
YOU LOOK AT OUR MILITARIES IN
SHATTER YOU HAVE THE GENERAL
SAYING IT'S NOT PREPARED, WE'RE
IN THE PREPARED AS A MILITARY
WE'RE NOT PREPARED. IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE WORST -- HE
SAID -- HE ACTUALLY SAID FROM
THE BEGINNING I WATCHED HIM
INTER VIEW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
LACKED PREPAREDNESS FROM THE
BEGINNING.
LOOK AT OUR VETS HOW BADLY THEY
HAVE BEEN TREATED.
OUR BORDERS HOW PEOPLE ARE JUST
POURING ACROSS OUR BORDERS.
THERE'S PLENTY TO DO.
>> Dickerson: TALK ABOUT THE
PRESIDENCY AND FINGER ON THE
BUTTON.
UNITED STATES HAS NOT USED
NUCLEAR WEAPONS SINCE 1945.
WHEN SHOULD IT?
>> WELL, IT IS AN ABSOLUTE LAST
STANCE. I USE THE WORD UNPREDICTABLE.
YOU WANT TO BE UNPREDICTABLE.
SOMEBODY RECENTLY SAID I MADE A
GREAT BUSINESS DEAL.
THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS
INTERVIEWED BY A NEWSPAPER.
HOW DID TRUMP DO THIS.
THEY SAY HE'S SO UNPREDICTABLE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY MEANT IT
POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY.
BUT HE MEANT IT POSITIVELY.
WE HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT
UNPREDICTABLE.
NUCLEAR HAS TO BE ABSOLUTELY
LAST STANCE.
I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ.
I'M NOT A FAST TRIGGER.
YOU HAVE GUYS WHO THINK ARE VERY
LOW KEY, BE FASTER THAN ME.
I WOULD BE VERY SLOW TRIGGER
WITH NUCLEAR. NUCLEAR IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.
WE HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS, BECAUSE
YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD
BE VERY FAST, YOU LOOK AT NORTH
KOREA, SOME OF THESE COUNSEL
TREES, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD
HESITATE TO USE IT IF THEY
REALLY HAD IT.
>> Dickerson: THE UNITED STATES -- >> IT'S REALLY A LAST RESORT AS
FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
>> Dickerson: PRESIDENT OBAMA
SIGNED OR SAID NO MORE SPYING ON
ALLIES BUT REPORT IN THE "WALL
STREET JOURNAL" THAT WAS SPYING
ON TOP ISRAELI OFFICIALS.
WOULD YOU SAY NO SPYING ON
ISRAELI OFFICIALS AT ALL? >> I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT WANT TO
DO IT.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS, WE'RE
BEING SPIED ON BY EVERYBODY.
AND IT'S TERRIBLE WHAT IS GOING
ON IN THAT WHOLE THING.
WE FIND OUT THAT WE'RE BEING
SPIED ON BY THEM.
EVERYTHING IS OUT. THE ONE BAD THING ABOUT THE
COMPUTER GENERATION, I HAVE A
SON, HE'S NINE YEARS OLD, HE CAN
VIRTUALLY TAKE APART ANY
COMPUTER. THESE PEOPLE ARE SO BRILLIANT
WITH COMPUTERS THE OLD DAYS
WHEN YOU FIGHT A WAR YOU GIVE
SOMEBODY AN ARMED GUARD HE HAS
ENVELOPE NOW GOING THROUGH SO
MANY CHANNELS YOU DON'T KNOW WHO
IS GETTING IT.
IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE COMPUTER
AGE IS, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE
SECRECY ANY MORE.
>> Dickerson: YOU'D LEAVE OPEN
POSSIBILITY OF SPYING ON
ANYBODY, EVEN ALLIES.
>> I WOULD LEAVE OPEN
POSSIBILITIES OF DOING WHATEVER
IT TAKES TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY
VERY, VERY STRONG AND TO MAKE
OUR COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN.
>> Dickerson: LET'S TALK POLITICS FOR A MINUTE.
YOU SAID THAT SENATOR CRUZ
APPEARED TO BE COPYING YOUR
IMMIGRATION PLAN. YOUR PLAN AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS
DEPORTATIONS THEN LET GOOD ONES
BACK IN ONCE THEY HAVE LEFT THE
COUNTRY. >> HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
Dickerson: HIS PLAN JUST
DEPORTATION. IS HE HE STRICTER ON
UNDOCUMENTED -- >> FIRST OF ALL HIS PLAN JUST
HAPPENED OKAY?
FACT I WAS WATCHING THE OTHER
DAY, I WAS WATCHING TED TALK, WE
WILL BUILD A WALL.
FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD HIM.
MY WIFE SAID OH, LOOK, HE'S
COPYING WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SAYING
FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
NO NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT DEPORTATION.
AND PEOPLE CAN COME BACK INTO
THE COUNTRY NOT JUST THAT GROUP
BUT OTHER PEOPLE CAN COME BACK
BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO COME INTO
OUR COUNTRY LEGALLY.
I WANT A STRONG BORDER.
AND I'M THE ONE THAT CAME UP
WITH IT.
WHEN I ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS
RUNNING, I BROUGHT UP ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION. IT WASN'T EVEN A SUBJECT THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN
THIS DEBATE.
NOW IT'S ONE OF THE VERY BIG
SUBJECTS. TED CRUZ IS TRYING TO STEP UP
HIS WHOLE GAME ON AMNESTY AND ON
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BECAUSE IT
WAS ACTUALLY QUITE WEAK.
YOU LISTEN TO HIM AND MARCO
RUBIO TRYING TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE HAD IN
THE PAST BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTH
WEAK ON IT.
I HAVE BEEN VERY STRONG ON IT.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET
STRONGER.
NOBODY HAS THAT POSITION LIKE I
HAVE THAT POSITION.
IMENT WANT THE WALL.
I WANT EVERYBODY OUT. NOW PEOPLE ARE COMING TO ME.
BUT NOBODY HAS THAT ISSUE.
NOBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO
IT LIKE ME.
NOBODY AS AN EXAMPLE ON THE
WALL, NOBODY IS GETTING MEXICO
TO PAY FOR THE WALL, THE COST OF
THE WALL BUT ME.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW.
IT'S NOT IN THEIR VOCABULARY.
>> Dickerson: NOBODY THINKS
YOU'RE GOING TO GET --
>> THEY MAKE A FORTUNE WITH US
SO MUCH MONTH ARE MONEY THAN
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY CAN -- WE HAVE TRADE
DEFICITS, WE HAVE -- IF YOU LOOK
AT THE KIND OF NUMBERS THAT
MEXICO MAKES WITH US, THE WALL
IS PEANUTS.
ONLY BUSINESS PERSON WOULD SAY. THAT THE POLITICIANS DON'T
UNDERSTAND IT, THEY'RE ALL TALK
AND TO ACTION.
>> Dickerson: YOU SAID THAT THE
GOOD ONES WOULD COME BACK ON
EXPEDITED BASIS, WOULDN'T
SENATOR CRUZ SAY WELL THAT'S
AMNESTY?
>> THE GOOD ONES WOULD BE COMING
BACK I WOULD SAY THAT WE WANT TO
HAVE THEM BACK.
BUT WE WANT TO HAVE LOT OF OTHER
PEOPLE.
WE HAVE ONE PROBLEM, WE HAVE
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON LIST THAT
HAVE GONE THROUGH LEGAL PROCESS
THEY CAN'T GET INTO THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
I WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN.
THEY JUST HAVE TO COME BACK
LEGALLY.
>> Dickerson: WHEN YOU SAY ABOUT
SENATOR CRUZ NOT TOO MANY
EVANGELICALS COME OUT OF THE
CUBA? >> IT MEANS THAT CUBA GENERALLY
SPEAKING TO A CATHOLIC COUNTRY.
AND YOU DON'T EQUATE
EVANGELICALS WITH CUBA. I DON'T.
I THINK EVANGELICALS I HAVE -- I
GUESS I AM, I'M PRESBYTERIAN,
PROTESTANT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT
AS COMING OUT OF CUBA.
>> Dickerson: BUT YOU'RE NOT QUESTIONING WHETHER -- AS FAR AS
YOU KNOW YOU COULD BE MORE
DEVOUT AS YOU ARE.
>> CERTAINLY IT'S POSSIBLE.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING.
I SAY IT IN SOMEWHAT SMILING
MANNER, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE
TRUTH TO IT.
>> Dickerson: WHEN WE COME BACK
IN ONE MINUTE DONALD TRUMP TALKS
ABOUT HAAK WOMEN IN THE
WORKPLACE AND ABOUT WINNING
IOWA.
>> Dickerson: WE'RE BACK WITH MORE OF OUR INTERVIEW WITH
DONALD TRUMP.
HILLARY CLINTON, WHAT DOES IT
MEAN WHEN YOU SAY SHE'S PLAYING
THE WOMAN CARD?
>> CONSTANTLY PLAYING THE WOMAN
CARD.
PERSONALLY, I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYBODY ELSE OTHER THAN ME IS
GOING TO BEAT HER.
I THINK SHE'S A FLAWED
CANDIDATE. YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED
RECENTLY AND IT HASN'T BEEN A
VERY PRETTY PICTURE FOR HER OR
FOR BILL BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY
ONE THAT IS WILLING TO TALK
ABOUT HIS PROBLEMS.
I MEAN WHAT HE DID AND WHAT HE
HAS GONE THROUGH I THINK IS
FRANKLY TERRIBLE, ESPECIALLY IF
SHE WANTS TO PLAY THE WOMAN
CARD.
>> Dickerson: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO PLAY THE WOMAN CARD IN YOUR
VIEW? >> SHE'S PLAYING IT.
SHE IS PANDERING SHE'S
PANDERING TO THE PUBLIC AND
SHE'S PANDERING TO WOMEN.
AND WHEN SHE DID IT WITH ME,
TALKED ABOUT SEXIST, I SAID, ME,
I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR WOMEN BY
FAR THAN HILLARY CLINTON HAS.
I WILL DO MORE FOR WOMEN THAN
HILLARY CLINTON WILL.
I'LL DO FAR MORE.
INCLUDING THE PROTECTION OF OUR
COUNTRY. SHE CAUSED A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS
THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
YOU COULD SAY SHE CAUSED THE
MIGRATION, LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS
IN --
>> Dickerson: AS SECRETARY OF
STATE? >> AS SECRETARY OF STATE.
THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS BEEN UPSET
THE ENTIRE WORLD IS A DIFFERENT
PLACE. DID BARACK OBAMA AND HILLARY
CLINTON'S TERM SHE'S DONE
HORRIBLE JOB.
SHE'S CAUSED SO MANY OF THE
PROBLEMS.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING SHE'S
CAUSED DEATH.
SHE'S CAUSED TREMENDOUS DEATH
WITH INCOMPETENT DECISIONS.
I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ, I
WASN'T A POLITICS, BUT I WAS
AGAINST THE WAR IN REACTION SHE
VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ $SHE
CAUSED -- >> Dickerson: SHE CAUSED DEATH
HOW? >> LOOK AT LIBYA.
THAT WAS HER BABY.
I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE
AMBASSADOR AND THE PEOPLE WITH
THE AMBASSADOR, YOUNG WONDERFUL
PEOPLE.
WITH MESSAGES COMING IN BY THE
HUNDREDS AND SHE'S NOT EVEN
RESPONDING. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT.
THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OF
THE DEATH THAT'S BEEN CAUSED.
NOT ONLY ON OUR --
>> Dickerson: THAT PEOPLE WERE
SAVED BY GOING IN TAKING --
>> THERE IS NOTHING SAVED.
IF WE WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE
ANYTHING IN THE MIDDLE EAST WE'D
HAVE MUCH SAFER WORLD RIGHT NOW.
GETTING RID OF SADDAM HUSSEIN
I'M NOT SAYING HE WAS A GOOD
PERSON. HE WAS A BAD PERSON.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS FAR
WORSE. ALL OF THIS HAS LED TO ISIS, ALL
OF THIS HAS LED TO THE
MIGRATION.
ALL OF THIS HAS LED TO
TREMENDOUS DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.
AND SHE FOR THE MOST PART WAS IN
CHARGE OF IT ALONG WITH OBAMA.
>> Dickerson: YOU SAY YOU'LL DO
MORE FOR WOMEN THAN HILLARY CLINTON HOW DO YOU THINK WOMAN'S
EXPERIENCE IN DAILY LIFE IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE MAN?
>> THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LIFE.
IT'S A DIFFERENT LIFE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T
THINK WOMEN WANT TO BE PANDERED
TO. I THINK WOMEN DON'T LIKE HILLARY
CLINTON TO BE HONEST WITH YOU
JOHN.
I THIS YOU THAT WOMEN -- I SEE
IT ALL THE TIME THEY TELL ME,
YOU HAVE TO BEAT HER, YOU HAVE
TO WIN.
SHE'S A TERRIBLE PERSON, SHE'S A
TERRIBLE PERSON.
WOMEN ARE TELLING ME THAT.
I THINK FRANKLY, THAT WOMEN DO
NOT LIKE HILLARY CLINTON.
>> Dickerson: ARE WOMEN -- DO
THEY HAVE THE SAME ADVANTAGES OF
MEN IN TODAY'S WORLD DO THEY --
>> I THINK THEY HAVE COME A LONG
WAY. I THINK I'VE CERTAINLY WITHIN MY
COMPANY DONE THINGS THAT WERE
VERY DIFFERENT BECAUSE 30 YEARS
AGO I HAD WOMAN IN CHARGE OF
BUILDING A MASSIVE BUILDING ON
FIFTH AVENUE, MORE THAN 0 YEARS
AGO. NOBODY WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN
TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION.
IT WAS UNHEARD OF.
I WAS WAY AHEAD, I HAVE SO MANY
WOMEN EXECUTIVES.
THEY'RE INCREDIBLE.
BUT I HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WOMEN
IN TERMS OF THE WORLD OF
BUSINESS AND I'VE BEEN GIVEN
GREAT CREDIT FOR THAT.
>> Dickerson: YOU WERE GOING TO SEND $2 MILLION ON ADS --
>> NO.
I'M GOING TO SPEND $2 MILLION ON
ADS PER WEEK AT LEAST.
>> Dickerson: WHAT DO PEOPLE
NEED TO KNOW? >> I'M PROBABLY WASTING THE
MONEY.
BUT I'M $35 MILLION UNDER
BUDGET" WAS GOING TO HAVE THAT
SPENT BY NOW I HAVEN'T SPENT
ANYTHING. I ALMOST FEEL GUILTY.
I'M DOING THE ADS I'M LEADING
BY YOU WILL SAY A LOT, YOU CAN
SAY THE CBS POLL, ANY POLL, I'M
WINNING BY A LOT.
I DON'T THINK I NEED THE ADS.
BUT I'M DOING THEM, I ALMOST
FEEL GUILTY I'M $35 HIGHWAY 40
MILLION UNDER BUDGET. I WAS GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST $35
MILLION SPENT AS OF JANUARY
WHICH IS NOW.
I SPENT ALMOST NOTHING. I FEEL GUILTY.
I'M GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE
MONEY. I WANT TO BE CERTAIN -- I THINK
I'LL DO VERY WELL IN IOWA.
I'LL DO REALLY WELL IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
NEW HAMPSHIRE THE POLLS ARE VERY, VERY POWERFUL.
VERY STRONG. IN IOWA I'M LEADING.
NOBODY SAYS IT. IN IOWA THE CNN POLL IT'S 33-20
THAT I'M LEADING TED CRUZ IS
SECOND.
NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THAT
POLL, THAT WAS IS VERY MAJOR
POLL PROBABLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE
POLL TAKEN.
BUT I'M AT 33-20.
I THINK I'M GOING TO DO VERY
WELL WAYNE WASHINGTON I'D LOVE TO WIN IOWA.
I COULD HAVE SAID IT DIFFERENTLY
I I DO GREAT WITH EVANGELICALS
AND TEA PARTY I'M DOING GREAT.
I HAVE REAL GOOD FEELING WITH
IOWA. >> Dickerson: LAST QUESTION.
ANY NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION?
>> MAKE OUR COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN.
Dickerson: MR. TRUMP, THANKS
SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Dickerson: WE'LL BE RIGHT
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>> Dickerson: WE'RE BACK WITH
SOME ANALYSIS FROM OUR POLITICAL
PANEL. RUTH MARCUS IS THE COLUMNIST WITH THE "WASHINGTON POST."
REIHAN SAL MARKS ARE IS
EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF NATIONAL
REVIEW. MOLLY BALL IS POLITICS WRITER
FOR ATLANTIC AND JONATHAN MARTIN
NATIONAL POLITICAL
CORRESPONDENT. DONALD TRUMP, IS IT ESSENTIALLY
NOW HIS NOMINATION TO LOSE?
ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE?
>> HE HAS BIG STRUCTURAL
DISADVANTAGES.
BUT I'D SAY THE BIGGEST
ADVANTAGE THAT HE HAS IS THIS.
YOU JUST SAW HIM TALKING ABOUT
ALL KINDS OF SUBJECTS.
BUT IT REALLY IS THE GUT LEVEL
MESSAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT HIS
SUPPORT IT IS HEAVILY
CONCENTRATED IN PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY WHERE OVER THE LAST 20
YEARS, MANUFACTURING JOBS HAVE
DISAPPEARED IN LARGE NUMBERS.
IF YOU LOOK OVER LAST 20 YEARS
WHICH INDUSTRY IS IT THAT
WASHINGTON HAS FOUGHT TO
SUPPORT. THEY WERE REALLY DESPERATE TO
MAKE SURE THAT OUR BIG BANKS CAN
COMPETE WITH THE BANKS IN
LONDON, IN TOKYO AND ELSEWHERE.
SO THEY PASSED SERIES OF LAWS TO
ENSURE THAT THEY WERE IN THE
BEST SHAPE TO COMPETE GLOBALLY.
WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR
INDUSTRIES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
RUST BELTS, THESE PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY THESE ARE PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY WHERE THEY DON'T REALLY
FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE HAD FRIENDS
AND ALLIES.
DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T ACTUALLY
TALK ABOUT INDUSTRIALIZATION BUT
WHAT HE DOES SAY IS THAT THE
PEOPLE IN CHARGE ARE NOT
LISTENING TO YOU THEY ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY UNTRUSTWORTHY
WHERE AS I AM PLAIN SPOKEN AND
CAN BE TRUSTED.
AND WHICHEVER CANDIDATE IS GOING
TO WIN IS SOMEONE WHO CAN
CHANNEL THAT ANGER THAT FEELING
OF BEING LEFT OUT NOT LISTENED
TO. >> Dickerson: DONALD TRUMP SAID
HE'S GOING TO WIN IOWA.
>> I WAS SO STRUCK BY THAT AT
THE END.
SO MUCH OF THE EXPECTATION OF
THESE PRIMARIES IS DRIVEN BY
WHAT THE CANDIDATES SAY GOING
IN, HOW THEY SET UP THEIR OWN
ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT STATE
THEY'RE CAN GO TO PERFORM WELL,
ONLY GOING TO DO WELL.
BY SAY CAN THAT HE BASICALLY HAS
RAISED THE BAR ON HIS OWN
CAMPAIGN IN IOWA.
THE TO POINT WHERE CRUZ DOES
BEAT THEM IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN
MORE OF BLOW FOR TRUMP OTHERWISE
WOULD HAVE.
TRUMP IS SO TRUMPIAN HE CAN HELP
THEM SELFIES UNWITTINGLY SORT OF
RAISE THE BAR ON HIMSELF.
>> DENIES THAT HE SAID IT.
ickerson: A WINNER HAS TO
WIN. THAT'S THE -- THAT'S THE
CHALLENGE WHEN THE VOTES ARE
CAST. >> THAT IS HIS CHALLENGE.
BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION, IT IS HIS TO LOSE
RIGHT NOW.
HE MAY WELL NOT WIN IOWA.
WE REALLY STILL DO HAVE
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER HE'S
TRUMP VOTERS ARE ACTUALLY TRUMP
VOTERS AS OPPOSED TO TRUMP
SUPPORTERS.
BUT IT IS -- I THINK ONLY WORD
THAT COMES TO MIND HERE WATCHING
YOUR INTERVIEW WITH HIM WAS
TERRIFIC APPALLING.
IN TERMS OF HIS LACK OF
SUBSTANCE. HIS LACK OF DEEP THINKING.
HIS FAILURE TO ANSWER REALLY
SERIOUS QUESTIONS LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU ASKED HIM ABOUT, WHAT
IS THE IMPLICATION OF YOUR
TURNING UP IN THIS ISIS VIDEO.
BECAUSE HE SAID VERY HURTFUL
THINGS THAT REALLY CAN ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO JOIN ISIS.
AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT?
HE DOESN'T HAVE ANSWERS TO THESE
QUESTIONS OR ANY SERIOUS
QUESTIONS.
AND I REALLY AM JUST BY MYSELF
THUNDER STRUCK THAT WE'RE AT
2016 AND AT THIS POINT.
>> Dickerson: WE'LL TALK ABOUT
MORE OF THIS MOLLY WHEN WE GET
BACK. SIT TIGHT.
YOU SIT TIGHT OUT THERE WE'LL BE
BACK WITH MORE ANALYSIS FROM OUR
PANEL.
>> Dickerson: SOME OF OUR CBS
STATIONS ARE LEAVING US NOW. MOST OF YOU WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK
WITH A LOT MORE "FACE THE
NATION."
>> CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY CBS SPORTS DIVISION
>> James: WEEK 17.
REGULAR-SEASON FINALE IN THE
NFL. >> Boomer: RYAN FITZPATRICK IN
THE MIDST OF HIS FINEST YEAR.
>> Bart: I THINK WE TAKE HIS
GREATNESS FOR GRANTED.
>> Bill: ANTONIO BROWN,