DOING. >> DONALD, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING
ABOUT? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOU FOR
A WEEK.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
>> JOE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
KASICH AND MENTIONED BUSH AND
RUBIO AND SOMEBODY ELSE I WON'T
MENTION BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIKE
THAT PERSON.
>> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT,
DONALD? HOW THIN IS YOUR SKIN?
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOU FOR
A WEEK. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
BUSH WHO, BY THE WAY, IS TEN
POINTS LOWER THAN ME YOU SORT
OF MENTIONED LIKE, YOU KNOW CAN
KASICH BEAT BUSH?
WHAT ABOUT TRUMP?
WE ARE TEN POINTS AHEAD.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT?
THIS IS LIKE A GOLF TOURNAMENT.
WE NEED TO BRING IN THE LITTLE
GUY WITH THE JACKET THE RULE
BOOK. ALEX, HAVE I MENTIONED BUSH AND
RUBIOMORNING, ALEX?
>> HAVING TO DO WITH KASICH.
>> WE HAVE ONE OHP-ED.
>> HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE
CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT JOHN
KASICH AND WHETHER OR NOT HE'S
GOT THE -- JON HUNTSMAN PROBLEM.
THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER
CANDIDATES IN CONTEXT WITH.
THAT BUT YOU DIDN'T MENTION
DONALD TRUMP WHO IS AT THE TOP
OF THE POLL.
AND HE'S TAKING ISSUE WITH THAT.
>> YOU'RE FORGIVEN JOE.
THERE IS ONE OTHER COMPLAINT.
ONE OTHER COMPLAINT --
>> DONALD YOU AREN'T REALLY
THAT THIN SKINNED, ARE YOU?
>> YES, WE ARE THIN SKINNED.
>> OH, YES, HE IS.
>> WE ARE RAVAGED.
EVERYBODY SAID YOUR CAM SPAIN A
JOKE. YOU WERE GOING TO GO AWAY.
WE HAD ONE OF THE TOP EDITORS IN
AMERICA COME ON THREE WEEKS AGO
YELLING AT MIKA BEING OFFENDED
AND SHOCKED AND THEN OF COURSE
HE PUT YOU ON THE COVER OF THE
MAGAZINE THREE WEEKS AND STORMED
OFF MAD.
THIS IS HILARIOUS.
YOUR INCREDIBLY THIN SKINNED, MY
FRIEND. >> I AM.
EVEN THE FACT -- JOSEPH?
JOSEPH?
>> YES? >> EVEN WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE
POLITE SOCIETY THEY TREAT ME SO
WELL.
IT HELPS WHEN I OWN PALM BEACH.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY TREAT ME
WELL.
BUT THAT POLITE SOCIETY WAS
SMILING.
THEY'RE NOT SMILING. THEY DID SMILE WHEN I CAME INTO
MANHATTAN FROM QUEENS.
I WILL SAY THAT. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SMILING FOR
THE LAST 20 YEARS. BUT THAT'S OKAY.
POLITE SOCIETY HAS BEEN VERY
POLITE.
>> LET ME AS A MEMBER OF POLITE
SOCIETY ASK YOU A LEGITIMATE
QUESTION THAT HAS TO DO WITH
WHAT YOU WOULD DO TO SECURE THE
BORDER AS PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES?
WHAT POLICIES WOULD YOU PUSH
FOR? WHAT WOULD YOU PUT IN PLACE THAT
WOULD IMPROVE THE SITUATION?
>> BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING MIKA
I MEAN THIS AND I SAY IT TO
EVERYBODY, YOU HAVE TO SECURE
THE BORDER.
YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF GETTING
PEOPLE. WHEN WE WERE THERE, ABC THIS
EVENING, YOU KNOW THE MAJOR ABC
BROADCAST WAS THERE.
THEY WERE SETTING UP.
AND THERE WERE ILLEGALS RUNNING
PAST THEIR CAMERAS AND PEOPLE
RUNNING AFTER THEM.
IT WAS A WHOLE MESS.
THEY ENDED UP FIGHTING ON THE
GROUND.
IT WAS CRAZY. AND IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.
BY THE WAY LAREDO AND AREAS
LIKE THAT IT'S DOWN IN THE
VALLEY THAT'S THE REALLY BIG
PROBLEM. PEOPLE COME IN, THEY GO DOWN IN
THE VALLEY.
YOU HAVE TO SECURE THE BORDERS.
NOW YOU CAN USE COMBINATIONS OF
WALL.
CAN YOU USE FENCES YOU CAN USE
IN SOME CASES THE RIVER IN THIS
CASE THEY HAVE A RIVER WHICH IS
CERTAINLY HELPFUL.
BUT YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO
SECURE THE BORDER.
WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTRY WITHOUT
A BORDER.
WITHOUT A BORDER WE JUST DON'T
HAVE A COUNTRY.
SO EVERYBODY IS IN FAVOR.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE
KACIE HUNT THERE WHO NEVER
REPORTS ACCURATELY BY THE WAY,
AND YOU HAD --
>> COME ON.
>> NO IT'S TRUE.
YOU HAD KATIE TUR.
>> KACIE IS GREAT.
>> THEY DIDN'T EXPLAIN WHAT WAS
HAPPENING. THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY A HAPPENING.
AND WHEN I GOT OFF THE PLANE,
THERE WERE YOU KNOW, TREMENDOUS
NUMBERS OF PEOPLE. I WILL SAY, JOE, 95% OF THOSE
PEOPLE WERE CHEERING MADLY IN
FAVOR. I READ AND I HEAR --
>> DONALD I HAVE TO GO BACK TO
YOU. I THINK SOMETIMES YOU ARE
ACTUALLY ON TV WHAT MIKA SAYS I
AM IN PRIVATE.
SOMEBODY THAT CAN LISTEN TO
SOMEBODY SAYING 95% THINGS THAT
ARE NICE ABOUT ME AND I SEIZE ON
THE 5% AND OBSESS ON IT FOREVER.
KACIE HUNT ACTUALLY WAS TALKING
ABOUT HOW IT WAS LIKE A
PRESIDENTIAL MOTORCADE AND SAID
IT WAS VERY BIG.
IT WAS A HAPPENING AND THE
BIGGEST HAPPENING OF 2016.
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP THOUGH
DONALD, ON A QUESTION THAT WAS
ASKED OF YOU YESTERDAY.
IT REALLY IS A TOUGH QUESTION.
SO I THINK A LOT OF AMERICANS
SUPPORT YOU AS FAR AS THE
BORDER, MAKING THE BORDER TOUGH.
>> AND OTHER THINGS JOE.
>> OF COURSE. I KNOW DONALD.
MY GOD! STOP BEING SO THIN SKINNED!
>> YES.
>> SO I LOVE IT.
SO DONALD THE TOUGHER QUESTION
IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE 11
MILLION UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS
THAT ARE ALREADY HERE?
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND THEM
BACK TO MEXICO.
THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
DO WE LEGALIZE THEM AND SAY WE
KNOW YOU'RE HERE BUT WE'RE NOT
GOING TO GIVE YOU A PATHWAY TO
CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE YOU GOT HERE
ILLEGALLY BUT WE'LL LEGALIZE YOU
AND LET YOU WORK HERE FOR A
COUPLE YEARS?
HOW DO WE HANDLE THE 11 MILLION
ALREADY HERE? >> IT'S A BIG QUESTION.
AND A REALLY BIGGER QUESTION IS
I DON'T THINK THE 11 MILLION
WHICH IS A NUMBER YOU'VE BEEN
HEARING FOR MANY MANY YEARS,
I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT NUMBER
FOR FIVE YEARS, I DON'T THINK
THAT'S AN ACCURATE NUMBER
ANYMORE.
I'M NOW HEARING IT'S 30 MILLION
AND COULD BE 34 MILLION.
WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM.
>> WHO YOU HEARING THAT FROM?
>> I'M HEARING IT FROM OTHER
PEOPLE. I'VE SEEN IT WRITTEN IN VARIOUS
NEWSPAPERS. THE TRUTH IS THE GOVERNMENT HAS
NO IDEA HOW MANY ILLEGALS ARE
HERE. THEY HAVE NO IDEA.
>> SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL OF
THEM?
WHETHER IT'S 11 OR 30 MILLION,
DO WE GIVE THEM LEGALIZED STATUS
SO THEY'RE NOT LIVING IN THE
SHADOWS. LET THEM WORK BUT IF THEY BREAK
THE LAW SEND THEM BACK? >> WE TAKE THE BAD ONES OF WHICH
THERE ARE UNFORTUNATELY QUITE A
FEW.
WE TAKE THE BAD ONES AND GET
THEM THE HELL OUT.
WE GIVE THEM BACK TO MEXICO OR
MAKE SURE THEY STAY OR WHERE
THEY COME FROM.
THEY DON'T ALL COME FROM MEXICO.
THEY COME FROM OTHER PLACES.
THEY USE THAT BORDER BUT THEY
COME FROM OTHER PLACES.
WE GET THEM OUT AND GET THEM OUT
FAST.
AND WE GET THEM OUT PERMANENTLY.
THAT'S A BIG THING.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON
WITH BIG CRIME WAVES LIKE KATE
IN SAN FRANCISCO, PUSHED INTO
OUR COUNTRY FIVE FIMZ AND THE
FIFTH TIME HE KILLED KATE.
YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF CASES LIKE
THAT. WE HAVE TO GET THE BAD ONES OUT.
THEN THE OTHER ONES -- AND I'M A
VERY BIG BELIEVER IN MERIT
SYSTEM. I HAVE TO TELL YOU.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
HERE. THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES SADLY
THEY'VE BEEN LIVING UNDER THE
SHADOWS. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
SO WHETHER IT'S MERIT OR WHETHER
IT'S WHATEVER BUT I'M A
BELIEVER IN THE MERIT SYSTEM.
SOMEBODY'S BEEN OUTSTANDING, WE
TRY AND WORK SOMETHING OUT.
BUT BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING, JOE,
WE HAVE TO SECURE THE BORDER.
THE BORDER IS LIKE HAVING NO
BORDER. >> LET'S GO RIGHT NOW TO WILLIE
GEIST WHO I'M SURE CRITICIZED
YOUR BACKSWING, YOUR GOLF
BACKSWING OR SOMETHING.
>> DONALD GOOD TO TALK TO YOU
THIS MORNING.
GOOD TO TALK TO YOU.
SO YOU'RE HAVING HUGE SUCCESS IN
THIS CAMPAIGN.
YOU'RE UP BY DOUBLE DIGITS IN A
COUPLE NATIONAL POLLS.
YOU'RE CLEARLY ENJOYING
YOURSELF. MY QUESTION FOR YOU THOUGH IS
WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF THE
DAY, DO YOU REALLY WANT THE JOB
OF BEING PRESIDENT?
THIS IS THE NEXT DECADE OF YOUR
LIFE.
JANUARY OF 2025 IS WHEN YOU'D BE
OUT OF THAT JOB AND DOING WORK
THAT IT MEEBZANS TO BE PRESIDENT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? >> I DO.
I WANT TO MAKE THE COUNTRY
GREAT. NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO BE ABLE
TO DO IT. BUSH WON'T BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE
WITH CHINA. HE DOESN'T HAVE IT.
HE'S A NICE PERSON.
I THINK THAT JEB BUSH IS A VERY
NICE PERSON.
BUT WHEN HE MEETS THE CHINESE
AND SEES THE BLOOD POURING OUT
OF HIS EYES HE'S GOING TO LEAVE
THE ROOM.
THEY'RE CONTROLLED BY THE
LOBBYISTS AND THE SPECIAL
INTERESTS AND DONORS. BELIEVE ME CHINA HAS LOBBYISTS
IN OUR COUNTRY.
CHINA HAS LOBBYISTS, CAN YOU
BELIEVE IT? THEY'RE RIPPING US LEFT AND
RIGHT. WE'RE NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT
CHINA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MANY
OTHER COUNTRIES.
I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR
MEXICO.
I HAVE THOUSAND OF MEXICO
WORKERS, MEXICAN PEOPLE.
THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE.
BUT, JOE, I'LL TELL YOU, MEXICO
THE LEADERS ARE TOO SMART FOR
OUR LEADERS.
MEXICO IS KILLING US.
WHEN I WAS IN LAREDO I LOOKED
AT THAT TRAFFIC GOING INTO
MEXICO.
I SAID ONE LITTLE QUESTION.
MEXICO'S BOOMING, RIGHT?
OH YES, MEXICO'S BOOMING.
MEXICO'S BOOMING. WE'RE NOT BOOMING.
YOU LOOK AT OUR GDP, IT'S GONE.
THE FIRST QUARTER WE'RE ACTUALLY
NEGATIVE IN GDP.
THAT MEANS WE'RE CONTRACTING.
WE'RE GETTING SMALLER.
WILLIE, THE ANSWER IS YES, I
WOULD LOVE TO DO IT.
I WANT TO MAKE THE COUNTRY
GREAT. AND WILLIE'S FATHER THE
GREAT -- YOU KNOW THAT THE
GREAT WILLIAM GEIST, HE WROTE
THE FIRST MAJOR STORY IN DONALD
TRUMP ON THE COVER OF "THE NEW
YORK TIMES" MAGAZINE.
AND I LOVE THAT FAMILY.
EVEN THOUGH WILLIE SOMETIMES CAN
BE A WISE GUY.
>> THAT'S A TRUE STORY.
MY DAD DID WRITE A PROFILE IN
THE 1980s.
>> THE COVER OF "THE NEW YORK
TIMES" MAGAZINE WHICH WAS A
GREAT HONOR. HE WAS A GREAT, GREAT WRITER.
>> THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
BUT MY QUESTION REALLY ARE YOU
GOING TO GIVE UP THIS LIFE YOU
HAVE?
LOOK AT YOUR LIFE.
YOU'VE GOT TV SHOWS.
YOU'VE GOT BUILDINGS.
YOU HAVE THE JET.
YOU'RE DONALD TRUMP.
DO YOU WANT TO GO DOWN TO THE
NITTY-GRITTY OF POLITICS AND
LIVE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND WORK
IN THE OVAL OFFICE?
YOU ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP BEING
DONALD TRUMP, THIS GREAT PUBLIC
FIGURE AND HAVE TO BE THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
>> WELL I'M WILLING TO DO IT
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SO
IMPORTANT TO DO.
YOU KNOW IT'S INTERESTING.
WHEN I GOT OFF THE PLANE
YESTERDAY, WE HAD A MOTORCADE
LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN.
WE HAD HUNDREDS OF POLICE.
THEY WERE SO NICE AND SO GREAT.
SOMEBODY SAID WHY DO YOU HAVE TO
BE PRESIDENT FOR?
LOOK, THERE IS THE SAME THING.
THE TRUTH IS WE HAVE SUCH
POTENTIAL IN THIS COUNTRY.
WE COULD MAKE OUR COUNTRY SO
STRONG AND SO SMART AGAIN.
WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR JOBS
FROM ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES THAT
ARE TAKING OUR JOBS.
WE HAVE TO -- WE CAN MAKE OUR
COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN. I CAN DO IT.
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID YOU
KNOW, I TOLD -- AS YOU KNOW I
TOLD AT PRENTICE PEOPLE I TOLD
THE TOP PEOPLE IN COMCAST WHO
CAME TO MY OFFICE THREE MONTHS
AGO, THE TOP PEOPLE AT NBC, I'M
NOT DOING "THE APPRENTICE."
THEY CAME UP TO TRY TO BEG ME.
I'M NOT DOING IT.
MARK BURNETT SAID YOU'RE THE
ONLY ONE THAT EVER TURNED DOWN
AN EXTENSION.
NOBODY TURNS HIM DOWN.
I TURNED DOWN TREMENDOUS
AMOUNTS.
WHEN YOU SAW THAT I MADE -- WHAT
I REPORTED IS CERTIFIED NUMBERS
THAT I MADE $213 MILLION DOING
"THE APPRENTICE."
AND THEN LAWRENCE I CAN NOT
MENTION ABOUT LAWRENCE.
I WAS NICE THE WAY' POLLING HE
APOLOGIZED. I GAVE UP TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF
MONEY JUST IN.
I GAVE UP HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS ON DEALS AND
OPPORTUNITIES. SO YOU KNOW WHEN A POLITICIAN
DOES THIS JOE AND EVERYBODY,
THEY RUN AND THEY JUST KEEP
RUNNING.
THEY WIN, THEY LOSE NOBODY
CARES. WHEN I DO IT I'M GIVING UP A
LOT. BUT I REALLY -- I THINK WE'RE
MAKING A HUGE IMPACT EVEN THOUGH
JOE NEVER MENTIONS ME IN THE
FRONT.
>> OH, MY LORD.
>> OH, MY LORD!
OH MY LORD!
>> MARK HALPERIN.
>> I THINK I HAVE A REALLY GOOD
CHANCE OF GETTING THE
NOMINATION. IF I DO, I'M THE ONE THAT CAN
BEAT HILLARY.
SHE'S THE WORST SECRETARY OF
STATE IN THE HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY. >> JOE, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE TO
MOAN. MARK HALPERIN AND THEN AMY.
>> DONALD WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
MARK HALPERIN NEXT.
>> MR. TRUMP, GOOD MORNING.
>> HI MARK.
>> HUGE DEBATE IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY AMONG THE ESTABLISH.
INSIDERS WHO ARE TAKER FIFD YOUR
CANDIDACY ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING
TO BE DERAILED.
YOU'RE PRETTY SMART ABOUT
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MOST
LIKELY WAY YOUR CANDIDACY COULD
BE DERAILED WOULD BE?
>> WELL YOU KNOW YOU HAVE
BLOWUPS. I'VE SEEN IT OVER THE YEARS.
IT COULD BE THE A MUCH BIGGER
STORY THAN SPEAKING TO ME IS THE
WHOLE HILLARY CRIMINAL PROBE ON
THE E-MAILS. IT IS A CRIMINAL THING WHAT TOOK
PLACE.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
I THINK SHE WON'T BE INDICTED
BECAUSE IT'S ALL DEMOCRATS THAT
ARE THE PROSECUTORS RIGHT NOW.
>> BUT HOW COULD YOUR CAMPAIGN,
WHAT COULD KEEP FROM YOU BEING
THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE?
>> I DON'T KNOW. YOU JUST -- I'M JUST CHUGGING
ALONG. MAYBE PEOPLE GET TIRED OF ME.
WHO KNOWS? THIS PRESS IS CRAZY.
I TURN ON THE SHOWS, THE ENTIRE
SHOW IS -- LAST NIGHT ON ONE OF
THE SHOWS I WON'T MENTION WHICH,
THEY WERE INTERVIEWED A
CANDIDATE AND THEY ASKED IF HE
COULD COME BACK BECAUSE THEY
WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRUMP.
I'M SAYING I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
I TUNED IN TO HEAR WHAT HE WAS
GOING TO SAY.
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN COME BACK?
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP? AND THEN THEY ONLY ASK HIM TRUMP
QUESTIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE PEOPLE GET BURNED OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG
TIME.
I'VE BEEN IN POLITICS FOR A LONG
TIME. NOW AS A RUNNER THEY DON'T --
ALTHOUGH I MUST SAY I THINK THE
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE, I
THINK THEY ARE REALLY -- THEY
HAVE BEEN VERY VERY NICE OVER
THE LAST FEW DAYS.
THEY SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
THEY REACHED OUT.
THEY HAVE TALKED TO ME.
THEY HAVE TALKED TO MY PEOPLE.
THEY CANNOT BE NICER THAN
THEY'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST
FEW --
>> THAT'S DIFFERENT.
>> THEY SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING,
JOE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT REALLY
QUICKLY.
YESTERDAY THERE WERE REPORTS
THAT YOU HAD THREATENED TO RUN
AS AN INDEPENDENT BECAUSE THEY
WERE NOT TREATING YOU WELL.
WILL YOU RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT
OR IS THAT CHANGING?
ARE THEY STARTING TO TREAT YOU
IN A WAY THAT IS MORE
RESPECTFUL.
>> I WANT TO RUN AS A
REPUBLICAN. I'M LEADING EVERY POLL.
THAT MAY CHANGE.
WHO KNOWS. BUT I'M LEADING EVERY POLL.
IN CASES I'M LEADING BIG.
THE NEVADA POLL WAS
UNBELIEVABLE. LEADING BY YOU KNOW LIKE 18
POINTS.
THE NORTH CAROLINA POLL CAME
OUT. I'M LEADING THAT ONE BIG.
ALL I CAN SAY IS THIS.
THE BEST WAY TO WIN IS TO WIN AS
A REPUBLICAN.
I DO NOT WANT TO DO INDEPENDENT
AT ALL.
NOW IF I'M TREATED POORLY
THAT'S ONE THING.
IF I'M TREATED WELL AND WITH
GREAT RESPECT AND DON'T WIN, I
WOULD NOT DO THAT.
BUT IF I'M TREATED POORLY I
WILL DO IT.
>> YOU'RE SAYING DONALD OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS YOU SAY
THEY'VE BEEN CALLING AND HAVE
BEEN TREATING YOU BETTER.
>> YEAH WE'VE HAD GREAT
COMMUNICATION. THEY ARE TREATING ME WITH
TREMENDOUS RESPECT.
BECAUSE THEY SEE WHAT I'M DOING,
JOE. I'M NUMBER ONE IN THE POLLS.
AND THE REPUBLICAN --
>> YOU KNOW HOW THEY HELD THAT?
DONALD, DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY
KNOW THAT? DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY KNOW THAT
YOU'RE NUMBER ONE IN THE POLLS?
THEY ALL WATCH "MORNING JOE"
EVERY MORNING AND HEAR US TALK
ABOUT YOU BEING NUMBER ONE.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT WATCH
THAT'S DOESN'T HEAR THAT.
LET'S GO TO AMY.
>> MR. TRUMP, PLEASURE.
JUST SO YOU KNOW MIKA HAS BEEN
TOTALLY DEFENDING YOU ON
"MORNING JOE." SHE SAID YOU ARE A FORCE TO BE
RECKONED WITH. BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
THIS. YOU SAID IN THE PAST THAT YOU
PROBABLY IDENTIFY MORE AS A
DEMOCRAT AND YOU SAID THAT IN
YOUR VIEW THE ECONOMY DOES
BETTER UNDER THE DEMOCRATS.
SO I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHY THEN
ARE YOU RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN?
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
FIRST, OVER THE YEARS AS A
BUSINESSMAN, I'VE ALWAYS HELPED
EVERYBODY.
HELPED EVERYBODY. I'M A BUSINESSMAN.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM
WITH THE SYSTEM.
I HELP EVERYBODY.
I CONTRIBUTE TO PEOPLE.
I -- WHEN I WANT SOMEBODY, THEY
ARE ALWAYS THERE FOR ME.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I PUT
IN A STATEMENT THAT I'M WORTH A
LOT OF MONEY.
MUCH, MUCH MORE MONEY THAN
ANYBODY EVEN THOUGHT.
>> BUT WHY DID YOU SAY YOU
IDENTIFY MORE AS A DEMOCRAT AND
THE ECONOMY DOES BETTER UNDER
DEMOCRATS? >> I IDENTIFY WITH SOME THINGS
AS A DEMOCRAT BUT GENERALLY
SPEAKING -- IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HAPPENED, I WAS NEVER A BUSH
FAN. I WILL TELL YOU.
IN FACT I JUST SAY ABOUT THIS
ONE, THE LAST THING WE NEED IS
ANOTHER BUSH.
WHEN THE ECONOMY CRASHED SO
HORRIBLY UNDER GEORGE BUSH
BECAUSE OF MISTAKES THEY MADE
HAVING TO DO WITH BANKING AND
LOTS OF OTHER THINGS, I DON'T
THINK THE DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE
DONE THAT.
NOW I'VE SEEN IT BOTH WAYS.
I HATED WHAT I WAS WATCHING THE
LAST TWO YEARS OF GEORGE BUSH.
IT WAS A BUBBLE WAITING TO
EXPLODE.
IT WAS A BUBBLE THAT WITH JOE
AND MIKA I TOLD THEM IT WAS
WAITING TO EXPLODE. I TOLD A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I WAS RIGHT.
I'M PRETTY GOOD AT THAT STUFF.
BUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS A
DEATH WISH.
AND I SAW THAT.
THAT WAS A REPUBLICAN THING.
NOW WOULD A DEMOCRAT HAVE DONE
THOSE SAME THINGS?
POSSIBLY. IN ALL FAIRNESS TO McCAIN, WHEN
HE CAME IN I MEAN ABRAHAM
LINCOLN COULD HAVE RUN AGAINST
OBAMA AT THAT TIME.
YOU KNOW YOU JUST COULDN'T HAVE
WON. SO I HAVE SEEN THINGS OVER THE
YEARS DONE BY REPUBLICANS THAT I
TOTALLY AGREE W I'M A
REPUBLICAN.
I'M ACTUALLY QUITE CONSERVATIVE
TO PUT IT MILDLY.
BUT I HAVE SEEN THINGS DONE BY
REPUBLICANS THAT ARE NOT GOOD.
>> GENE ROBINSON?
>> I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
>> DONALD AFTER ALL THE SWASH
BUCKLING RHETORIC, AFTER ALL YOU
SAID ABOUT THE OTHER REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE AND IT'S REALLY
ENTERTAINING AND REALLY
EFFECTIVE IN MANY WAYS GIVEN
YOUR STANDINGS IN THE POLLS, HOW
YOU COULD SUPPORT ANY OF THESE
GUYS?
YOU HAVE POINTED OUT THEIR
DEFICIENCIES AGAIN AND AGAIN AND
AGAIN. HOW YOU COULD SUPPORT THEM IF
YOU KNOW FOR SOME REASON YOU
DIDN'T GET THE NOMINATION?
>> WELL FIRST OF ALL I ASSUME
THAT IS GENE ROBINSON WHO I'M
STARTING TO LOVE.
I'M STARTING TO LOVE GENE, OKAY?
I'M FALLING MADLY IN LOVE WITH
HIM. >> WE'RE BONDING.
>> GENE IT'S REALLY A GOOD
QUESTION.
NOW IF I'M A POLITICIAN YOU
KNOW, IT ALWAYS SICKENS ME WHEN
TWO PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING AND
WATCHING THE SHOWS AFTER THE
ELECTION AND HORRIBLE ENEMIES
AND FIGHTING AND FIGHTING.
AND THEN ONE LOSES AND THEY GET
UP TO THE PODIUM.
I LOVE SO AND SO.
HE IS SO WONDERFUL.
I'LL SUPPORT HIM.
THAT'S POLITICS. THERE MAY SOMEBODY PEOPLE LOOK
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE
RUNNING.
I HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR A
NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M ENEMIES WITH
EVERYBODY. YOU SEE THAT.
SOME PEOPLE YOU KNOW GIVE ME A
LOT OF CREDIT FOR BRINGING UP
THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
GIVE ME A LOT OF CREDIT BECAUSE
OF THE VETS.
I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE
VETS. I DID IT THROUGH JOHN McCAIN
BECAUSE HE'S DONE SUCH A POOR
JOB FOR THE VETERANS.
I BRING UP THE VETS.
IT'S A MAJOR SUBJECT NOW.
THE VETS LOVE ME.
THE FACT IS THERE ARE A COUPLE
PEOPLE THAT IF THEY WON, I DON'T
THINK THEY'RE GOING TO WIN OR
CLOSE TO WINNING, FRANKLY, BUT
IF THEY WOULD WIN, I MAY NOT --
IF I DON'T DO THIS UNLIKE OTHER
PEOPLE, I'M GOING BACK TO MY
LIFE. I'M GOING HAVE A GOOD LIFE AND
I'M SACRIFICING A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT TO DO THIS.
YOU KNOW I'M TAKING A HUGE --
SORT OF A RISK BUT SACRIFICING A
LOT BY DOING THIS.
INCLUDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AND MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
PROBABLY -- I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT THE COST OF A CAMPAIGN.
THAT IS THE SMALLEST COST.
I THINK THE CAMPAIGN IS PROBABLY
THE CHEAPEST THING.
BUT THERE COULD VERY WELL BE
GENE, YOU KNOW PEOPLE -- THERE
ARE PEOPLE THAT I DO NOT THINK
ARE VERY GOOD.
IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT
SOMEBODY THAT IS -- IF SOMEBODY
WON, I MAY SORT OF LIKE SHIFT
OFF INTO THE MOONLIGHT.
>> OKAY.
>> I HOPE THAT WON'T BE THE
CASE. I HOPE THAT WON'T BE THE CASE.
IT COULD VERY WELL BE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
DONALD TRUMP, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR WORKING WITH US.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE AS THIN
SKINNED AS YOU SOUND TODAY.
I THINK YOU'RE JUST POUNDING ME
IN THE HEAD.
>> NO.
NO. THE TWO OF YOU ARE EXACTLY
ALIKE. >> OH, SFOPTOP THAT.
>> THANK YOU DONALD.
ALWAYS INTERESTING AND GOOD
LUCK. BE SAFE OUT ON THE