>>> WE'RE GOING TO BE SMART,
WE'RE GOING TO BE VIGILANT
WE'RE GOING TO BE PROUD OF OUR
COUNTRY AGAIN.
>> THIS IS AN MSNBC TOWN HALL
WITH DONALD TRUMP.
HERE NOW CHRIS MATTHEWS.
>> WELCOME TO THIS EXCLUSIVE
TOWN HALL.
FOR A FULL HOUR OUR GUEST IS
THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR THE
REPUBLICAN NOMINATION.
DONALD TRUMP.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
>> WE'RE UP HERE IN GREEN BAY.
AND MY CALCULATIONS SAY IF
YOU'RE GOING TO WIN THE GENERAL
ELECTION, HAVE YOU TO WIN UP
HERE STATES LIKE WISCONSIN,
MICHIGAN PENNSYLVANIA.
NFL PLACES.
>> IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE
HELPFUL, WE'RE DOING VERY WELL
WE'RE LEADING BY A LOT, WE'RE
LEADING EVERYBODY BY A LOT.
IN TERMS OF VOTES, WE'RE
MILLIONS OF VOTES UP ON CRUZ AND
MILLIONS OF VOTES UP ON KASICH.
ALL YOU CAN DO IS DO YOUR BEST.
RIGHT FOLKS?
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT BEFORE YOU
GET TO THE GENERAL ELECTION
HAVE YOU TO WIN THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION.
YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ABILITY
TO WALK SAY I'M NOT GOING TO
BUY YOUR OIL.
WHAT IS YOUR LEVERAGE WITH THE
REPUBLICAN BOSSES? >> ONE THING THE VOTERS.
I HAVE MILLIONS MORE VOTES THAN
ANYBODY ELSE IT'S NOT EVEN
CLOSE. YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU'VE REPORTED
ON IT. IF YOU LOOK AT NEW HAMPSHIRE,
SOUTH CAROLINA, NO MATTER WHERE
YOU LOOK WE'RE SETTING RECORDS.
THAT'S MY LEVERAGE. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE
REALLY -- THEY REALLY LIKE
DONALD TRUMP, THEY REALLY LIKE
WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AMERICA
GREAT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
WITHOUT ME THEY LOSE MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE AND NOBODY'S GOING TO
HAVE A CHANCE.
I WILL BEAT HILLARY CLINTON.
I HAVEN'T STARTED THAT PROCESS
YET. I HAVE TWO PEOPLE LEFT.
WE STARTED OFF WITH 18 PEOPLE
AND NOW THERE'S TWO --
>> YOU'RE COUNTING JIM GILMORE?
>> YES.
>> CLEVELAND IS GOING TO BE IN
JULY. IF YOU GO IN IN SHORT OF 1237 --
IF YOU HAVE 1237 YOU GOT IT.
>> RIGHT.
>> IF YOU GO IN THERE WITH 1237
AND ON THE FIRST VOTE THEY DENY
YOU? >> WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT
HAPPENS, I CAN SAY THIS CHRIS.
WE'RE SO FAR UP ABOVE EVERYBODY
ELSE. WE'RE HUNDREDS OF -- I MEAN
HUNDREDS OF DELEGATES ABOVE
CRUZ. WE JUST -- YOU PROBABLY HEARD
LAST NIGHT, MISSOURI WAS JUST
CERTIFIED, I WON MISSOURI IN
ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE'RE WAY WAY UP IN VOTES, WAY
WAY UP -- IF WE'RE A LITTLE
SHORT, I THINK IT'S A VERY
UNFAIR PROCESS.
>> WHAT'S THE GIMME, SIX INCHES
TWO FEET?
>> NORMALLY YOU TALK ABOUT
RUNNING AND YOU DON'T HAVE 17
PEOPLE. WE HAD 17 PEOPLE WE HAD 18
AGAIN INCLUDING GILMORE.
WE HAD 18 PEOPLE.
DURING A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WE
WOULD HAVE 13 PEOPLE 12 PEOPLE
IN THE PRIMARIES.
SO I'D GET 25%, 28%.
THOSE ARE PHENOMENAL NUMBERS
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE
RUNNING, IN THOSE EARLY STATES
WHICH I WON, BUT YOU CAN'T GET
50% WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY
PEOPLE RUNNING.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN SO MANY
PEOPLE RUNNING.
I'M GOING TO COME VERY CLOSE TO
THE 1237 I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
BEAT 1237.
>> IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU NOT
GETTING THE 1237.
>> I KNOW I KNOW.
>> WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO --
ARE YOU GOING TO BE TEDDY
ROOSEVELT? IN 1912 HE DIDN'T GET THE
NOMINATION, HE WALKED OUT, SPLIT
THE PARTY, BEAT THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY IN NOVEMBER BUT LOST THE
GENERAL TO WILSON.
>> I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT I'M
GOING TO DO YET, I'M NOT SURE I
KNOW. I HOPE THEY'RE GOING TO BE FAIR
IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE FAIR,
THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY.
HOW CAN THEY GIVE UP MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE THAT FEEL
DISENFRANCHISED? >> BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE YOU.
>> YOU HAVE FOUR SUPREME COURT
JUSTICES. >> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STICK TO
THIS PLEDGE TO BACK THE NOMINEE,
IS THAT -- >> I HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED
PROPERLY, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
THEY HAVEN'T STUCK TO THE
PLEDGE.
I DON'T WANT AN ENDORSEMENT FROM
SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE
I LOVE TRUMP, IF HE WINS HE'S
GOING TO BE THE GUY. I DON'T WANT THAT ENDORSEMENT,
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THAT
ENDORSEMENT. WHEN THEY ASKED ME ABOUT CRUZ I
SAID, NO NO PUT NO PRESSURE ON
CRUZ. TELL HIM HE DOESN'T HAVE TO
ENDORSE ME. IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THE ENDORSEMENTS DON'T MEAN VERY
MUCH. I HAVE GREAT ENDORSEMENTS I
HAVE SENATOR SESSIONS JEFF
SESSIONS ENDORSE ME.
EVERYBODY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING
TO ENDORSE CRUZ HE ENDORSED ME.
I'M BETTER IN A LOT OF THINGS.
>> I WATCHED YOU ON EVERY ISSUE,
YOU ALWAYS TALK ABOUT LEVERAGE
WE CAN WALK AWAY FROM A DEAL
WITH THE SAUDIS ON OIL, WE CAN
WALK AWAY FROM THE CHINESE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEIR STUFF
ANY MORE.
YOU ALWAYS SAY YOUR LEVERAGE IS
THE ABILITY TO WALK.
DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO WALK
ON THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION?
CAN YOU WALK. >> I CAN ALWAYS DO THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO LET PEOPLE DOWN.
I HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE MORE
THAN CRUZ HAS, I HAVE MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT A GOOD SYSTEM.
YOU TAKE LOUISIANA, I WENT TO
LOUISIANA, I CAMPAIGNED THERE, I
WON THE STATE, NOW THE NUMBERS
COME OUT AND I HAVE LESS
DELEGATES THAN CRUZ.
THAT'S NOT THE AMERICAN WAY.
I WENT OUT AS YOU KNOW I WON
LOUISIANA, BIG VICTORY,
EVERYTHING GREAT, BUT BECAUSE OF
ARCANE RULES AND A LOT OF
NONSENSE, I END UP GETTING LESS
DELEGATES THAN CRUZ.
>> 3/5 OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
SAY YOU'RE RIGHT IF YOU HAVE
THE MOST VOTES, YOU SHOULD BE
THE NOMINEE I'M TRYING TO THINK
WHAT YOU DO IF YOU ARE NOT THE
NOMINEE? >> I DON'T THINK I WANT TO TELL
YOU WHAT I WOULD DO.
>> IS THAT A TRUE THING?
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 800
POUND -- >> I DO LIKE YOUR QUESTION ON
LEVERAGE. MY LEVERAGE IS THE VOTERS I
HAVE MILLIONS MORE VOTES THAN
ANYBODY ELSE.
>> WAS TEDDY ROOSEVELT RIGHT TO
WALK? >> I THINK POSSIBLY HE WAS, BUT
BOY DID THAT CAUSE A PROBLEM.
>> IT SURE DID.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS
THING WITH YOUR CAMPAIGN
MANAGER? DO YOU THINK YOU COULD HANDLE IT
DIFFERENTLY, WITH AN APOLOGY TO
THE YOUNG WOMAN REPORTER?
SHOW RESPECT FOR HER?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK IF HE CALLED UP TO
APOLOGIZE, YOU'D BE IN THE EXACT
SAME PLACE.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THAT TAPE
ARE SAYING GIVE ME A BREAK.
>> THERE WAS CONTACT.
>> WHAT'S CONTACT.
>> THAT'S WHAT THIS LAW SAYS.
>> IT'S BATTERY.
>> SHE GRABBED MY ARM TWICE, YOU
SEE THE PICTURE OF ME LOOKING
LIKE WHO IS THIS PERSON?
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
BRUISES ON THE PICTURE?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO CREATED
THOSE BRUISES.
I DON'T KNOW.
TWO DAYS LATER SHE COMES IN AND
SAID SHE HAD SOME BRUISES.
>> THIS KIND OF ARGUMENT
INFURIATES HER AND A LOT OF
WOMEN, YOU'RE NOT SHOWING BELIEF
IN HER CREDIBILITY.
WHY WOULD SHE MAKE UP A STORY
ABOUT BRUISES.
>> 15 MINUTES AWAY IN FRONT OF A
LARGE CROWD I GAVE A SPEECH WE
TALKED ABOUT THAT I SAID WHO
SAW THE TAPE AND EVERYBODY --
ALMOST -- A LOT OF PEOPLE RAISED
THEIR HANDS.
I SAID WHO THINKS HE DID
SOMETHING REALLY WRONG, STAND UP
PLEASE OR RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU
DON'T WANT TO STAND UP.
NOT ONE PERSON IN THE ROOM
RAISED THEIR HAND.
WE'RE GETTING -- IT'S OUT OF
CONTROL, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS,
IT'S TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL.
>> WHEEZE THE RIGHT APPROACH.
IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY BUMP
SOMEBODY OR TRIP THEM YOU SAY
I'M SORRY. >> YEAH I THINK THAT'S FINE.
>> WOULDN'T THAT HAVE BEEN
APPROPRIATE HERE.
>> I'M NOT SURE HE DIDN'T EVEN
MAYBE SAY IT THERE.
WHAT HE WAS DOING, JUST IN
WATCHING THE TAPE NOBODY
REMEMBERS THE INCIDENT BECAUSE
IT WAS SO MINOR.
>> THE POLICE REMEMBER IT.
>> EXCUSE ME.
I THINK THAT THEY ARE -- WHAT
THEY'VE DONE IS OUTRAGEOUS.
THEY'RE DESTROYING A VERY GOOD
PERSON.
FORGET ABOUT POLITICS.
HE'S A GOOD PERSON WITH A
WONDERFUL FAMILY FOUR BEAUTIFUL
KIDS AND THEY'RE DESTROYING THAT
MAN OVER NOTHING.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TAPE
AND SHE'S GRABBING ME.
MAYBE I SHOULD PRESS CHARGES
AGAINST HER. SHE'S TOUCHING ME GRABBING MY
ARM, AND I'M GOING LIKE THIS,
I'M SAYING WHO IS IT?
THE NEWS CONFERENCE WAS OVER
SHE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ASKING
QUESTIONS. SHE PUSHED HER WAY THROUGH, CAME
THROUGH THE SECRET SERVICE,
GRABS MY ARM.
I THINK THIS WAS JUST -- AND LET
ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, JUST SO
YOU WENT DOWN.
IF SHE WENT DOWN SHE MADE THE
STATEMENT THAT SHE ESSENTIALLY
ALMOST WENT DOWN.
THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.
SHE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A -- IF I
GIVE YOU A LITTLE SHOT ON THE
ARM, YOU'RE GOING TO GO OW!
I'M A STRONG GUY.
SHE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE FACIAL --
>> SHE STEAD IN REALTIME --
>> WHEN WAS IT WHEN DID THEY
RECORD THAT?
>> YOU'RE SKEPTICAL ABOUT HER?
>> YES.
>> WHY DON'T YOU HAVE SYMPATHY
FOR HER?
>> I DON'T THINK --
>> SHE'S DOING HER JOB.
>> IT WAS MY TAPE.
I LOOKED AT THAT TAPE AND WE
HAVE HEADS BEING CUT OFF ALL
OVER THE WORLD, FRANKLY.
WE HAVE PEOPLE'S HEADS BEING CUT
OFF, PEOPLE DROWNING IN STEEL
CAGES, HERE'S A WOMAN -- AND IT
DIDN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE THERE WAS
PHYSICAL TOUCHING.
IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS BLOCKING
HER AWAY FROM ME.
AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A
CRIMINAL FOR THAT.
>> WESTERN SOCIETY CLAIMS WE'RE
BETTER WITH WOMEN?
>> LOOK NOBODY RESPECTS WOMEN
MORE THAN I DO.
>> YOU DON'T RESPECT HER,
THOUGH. >> I WOULD SAY I DON'T HAVE
GREAT RESPECT FOR HER.
FOR HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID TO
THIS MAN OVER WHAT HE DID IS
OUTRAGEOUS.
>> SHE QUIT HER JOB OVER IT SHE
MUST BELIEVE IN HER STORY.
>> DID SHE QUIT OR DID SHE GET
FIRED? >> I DON'T KNOW I THINK SHE
QUIT. >> I THINK THE OTHER WAY.
THE EASIEST THING FOR ME TO DO
YOU'RE FIRED MUCH THAT'S SO
EASY THAT'S A VERY EASY
EXPRESSION. AND THEN EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. >> THERE'S A MIDDLE ROUTE.
>> I CAN'T DO THAT I'M LOYAL TO
PEOPLE. THEY WENT TO CRUZ AND KASICH
YOU SHOULD FIRE HIM.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE TAPE I
DON'T THINK. I DON'T DO THAT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY UNFAIR
SITUATION.
THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR ME.
>> HOW DO YOU THINK WOMEN REACT
WHEN THEY SEE THIS?
THE NUMBERS AREN'T GOOD.
>> A LOT OF WOMEN WOULD SAY,
DRIVE ME A BREAK, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHY.
THE NUMBERS AREN'T GOOD THE
NUMBERS WERE GOOD.
THE NUMBERS AREN'T AS GOOD WITH
WOMEN AS THEY WERE.
BUT NOBODY RESPECTS WOMEN MORE
THAN I DO.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT ISIS IT'S
THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN SINCE
LAST WEEK.
WE FOUGHT THE GERMANS OR THE
ITALIANS, THE ARMY PUTS THEIR
HANDS UP AT THE END.
>> THE UNIFORMS.
>> HOW DO YOU DEFEND PEOPLE WHO
WRAP THEMSELVES IN DYNAMITE.
THEY GO OFF TO THE AIRPORT WITH
THE IDEA OF BLOWING THEMSELVES
UP KILLING THEMSELVES.
HOW DO YOU BEAT AN ARMY LIKE
THAT? THIS GETS DOWN TO SOMETHING WE
HAVEN'T DEALT WITH BEFORE IN OUR
HISTORY
HISTORY. >> WE HAVE TO BE SO TOUGH AND
VIGILANT, AND WE HAVE TO GO
THINGS WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.
>> THEY WANT TO DIE FOR THEIR
CAUSE. >> MAYBE THEY DO SOME OF THEM
DO, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THEY DO
THIS, HOW THEY DO THIS?
>> THEY'RE RECRUITED.
>> ARE THEY DRUGGED OUT?
>> THEY'RE RECRUITED.
>> ARE THEY DRUGGED OUT WHEN
THEY DO IT?
WHAT'S GOING ON WHEN THEY WALK
IN AND BLOW THEMSELVES UP.
ARE THEY DRUGGED OUT?
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING
ON. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, WE HAVE
PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS
COUNTRY -- IT'S A VERY BAD
SITUATION.
WE HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR
COUNTRY, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE
THEY COME FROM WHO THEY ARE --
>> OFTEN TIMES IT'S THE SECOND
OR THIRD GENERATION.
PEOPLE IN BELGIUM, THEY WERE
BORN THERE.
>> LOOK AT THE SITUATION IN
BOSTON. THEY CAME TO THE COUNTRY
RADICALIZED.
>> I THINK BANG UNTIL WE FIGURE
OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IS AN
IMPORTANT THING.
I TAKE A LOT OF HEAT FOR IT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME FOR IT.
CHRIS THERE'S SOMETHING GOING
ON. >> 6 MILLION MUSLIMS IN THE
WORLD, THEY'RE ALL GETTING THE
MESSAGE FROM DONALD TRUMP
SAYING, STAY OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
HOW DOES THAT ENCOURAGE THEM TO
FIGHT ISIS? >> THEY HAVE A PROBLEM TOO, THEY
HAVE A BIG PROBLEM.
I HAVE BEEN CALLED BY MORE
PEOPLE SAYING WHAT YOU ARE
DOING IS A GREAT THING.
>> HAVE ANY MUSLIMS.
>> I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT
ARE MUSLIM.
>> HAVE THEY --
>> THEY'RE RICH MUSLIMS.
>> WAIT WAIT WAIT CHRIS.
WITH THE SAN BERNARDINO
SITUATION, MANY PEOPLE SAW THE
APARTMENT WITH BOMBS ALL OVER.
NOT ONE PERSON WITH, ALL THE
PEOPLE THAT SAID IT'S RACIAL
PROFILING, THAT'S WHY THEY
DIDN'T CALL.
YOU KNOW WHY THEY SAID THAT
SOME LAWYER SAID YOU SAW THIS
YOU BETTER COME UP WITH A GOOD
EXCUSE. THEY SAID IT'S RACIAL PROFILING,
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW WHAT WAS
GOING ON IN THAT APARTMENT.
NOT ONE --
>> I'M WITH YOU ON THIS.
>> WHY DIDN'T THEY REPORT HIM?
>> YOU SAY BAN THEM FROM THE
COUNTRY. THEY GET THE MESSAGE.
1.6 -- INDONESIA, PAKISTAN
ALBANIA.
ANY WHERE THERE'S MUSLIMS THEY
KNOW YOU DON'T WANT THEM.
THEY GET THE MESSAGE.
THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE ILL
DISPOSED TO FIGHT ISIS.
>> I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THEY'LL
BE MORE DISPOSED TO FIGHT ISIS.
MAYBE THEY'LL SAY, WE WANT TO
COME BACK INTO AMERICA, WE WANT
TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
>> CRUZ WANTS PATROL CARS RIDING
UP NEIGHBORHOODS HE THINKS HAVE
MUSLIMS IN THERE, PLOTTING --
THIS IS INSANE.
THAT WILL MAKE THEM MORE
MILITANT AGAINST US.
>> HE'S TOUGHENING UP AGAINST
HIS STANCE BECAUSE MY STANCE --
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HIS
STANCE? >> QUESTION HAVE TO LOOK AT
MOSQUES.
WE'RE MAKING ENEMIES BY DOING
NOTHING, WE'RE KNOCKING DOWN
WORLD TRADE CENTERS.
WE'RE SHOOTING PLANES INTO THE
PENTAGON.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO SIT
BACK AND SAY WE WANT TO BE NICE
TO EVERYBODY?
WE CAN'T BE SO NICE?
>> SOMETIMES WE CREATE MORE
TROUBLE THAN WE INTENDED TO.
WAS IT SMART TO GO INTO IRAQ?
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THE
FIRST DECISIONS IN THE HISTORY
OF OUR COUNTRY.
>> ARE YOU MORE HAWKISH THAN
HILLARY OR LESS HAWKISH.
>> I'M PROBABLY MORE INTELLIGENT
THAN HILLARY.
>> ARE YOU MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE
MILITARY. >> I WOULD NEVER WANT TO MAKE A
BLANKET STATEMENT LIKE THAT.
I WOULD HAVE NEVER GONE INTO
IRAQ. I SAID FROM A VERY EARLY DAY, I
SAID THAT I DON'T WANT TO GO
INTO IRAQ.
DON'T GO INTO IRAQ.
I WAS A REAL ESTATE GUY, A
BUSINESS GUY, NOBODY REALLY
CARED.
THERE WERE ARTICLES I SAID YOU
HAVE TO DESTABILIZE IRAQ.
WHEN WE GOT OUT, WE GOT OUT THE
WRONG WAY.
I ALWAYS SAID TAKE THE OIL.
YOU KNOW WHO HAS THE OIL RIGHT
NOW?
>> YOU NEED GROUND TROOPS TO
TAKE THE OIL.
>> I SAID TAKE THE OIL.
>> GROUND TROOPS AND --
>> WELL I SAID KEEP THE OIL.
WE ALREADY HAD THE TROOPS THERE,
WHEN WE WERE LEAVING, I SAID
DON'T LEAVE, KEEP THE OIL.
>> YOUR MOST CONTROVERSIAL
SUGGESTION WAS DON'T TAKE
NUCLEAR WEAPONS, YOU MAY HAVE
BEEN HOOKED INTO THIS BY A PRESS
CAN QUESTION -- >> TAKE WHAT?
>> NUCLEAR WEAPONS OFF THE
TABLE. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO THINK HOW
WE COULD CONCEIVABLY USE A
NUCLEAR WEAPON IN THE MIDDLE
EAST, WHY LEAVE IT ON THE TABLE
IF YOU CAN'T IMAGINE HOW TO USE
IT. >> I DIDN'T SAY DON'T TAKE IT I
WOULD BE SLOW AND HESITANT --
>> WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY I DON'T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NATO.
>> YOU GOT HOOKED INTOETHING
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
>> SOME DAY MAYBE.
>> WHAT MAYBE?
WHERE WOULD WE DROP A NUCLEAR
WEAPON IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
>> SOMEBODY HITS US -- YOU
WOULDN'T FIGHT BACK.
>> NO TO DROP A NUCLEAR WEAPON
INTO A COMMUNITY -- >> FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T WANT
TO SAY TAKE EVERYTHING OFF THE
TABLE. YOU WOULD BE A BAD NEGOTIATOR IF
YOU DO THAT.
>> JUST NUCLEAR.
>> LOOK NUCLEAR SHOULD BE OFF
THE TABLE.
>> THE ENTIRE WORLD HEARD THE
GUY RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES SAY MAYBE WE WOULD
USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
>> THEN WHY DO WE MAKE THEM?
>> BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT THAT
REAGAN HATED.
>> I WOULD NEVER TAKE ANY OF MY
CARDS OFF THE TABLE. >> HOW ABOUT EUROPE?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT OFF
THE TABLE? >> YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT IN
EUROPE? >> NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
I'M NOT TAKING CARDS OFF THE
TABLE. I'M NOT GOING TO USE NUKES, BUT
I'M NOT GOING TO --
>> THE SAME PEOPLE HEAR YOU, AND
THE INSANE PEOPLE ARE NOT
AFFECTED BY YOUR THREATS, THAT'S
THE TROUBLE. THE REAL FANATICS SAY KEEP IT
UP. >> I THINK THEY'RE MORE AFFECTED
THAN YOU MIGHT THINK.
>> YOU'RE CALL.
MUCH MORE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
WISCONSIN GREEN BAY, OUR MSNBC
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>>> WE'RE BACK IN GREEN BAY,
WISCONSIN, THE HOME OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN GROWN
BAY. WE HAVE OUR FIRST QUESTION FROM
THE PEOPLE HERE FOR DONALD
TRUMP. >> MY NAME IS QUINN, AND MY
QUESTION FOR YOU IS REGARDING
YOUR IMMIGRATION REFORM.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN OFFER
A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT AND
SPECIFICS AS TO WHAT YOU REALLY
HOPE TO CHANGE IF GIVEN THE
PRESIDENCY. >> VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY STRONG
QUESTION FOR ME.
FROM THE BEGINNING, I'VE BEEN
STRONG ON IMMIGRATION, STOPPING
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND I WANT
PEOPLE TO COME INTO THIS SKUN
THE, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH
A PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO DO IT
LEGALLY. WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG
SOUTHERN BORDER.
TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS WE'RE VERY
TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS WITH CRIME.
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE VERY VERY STRONG BORDERS,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WALL IT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN.
MEXICO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE
WALL.
>> I JUST DON'T THINK THEY WILL,
BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
>> THEY WILL.
>> HOW HIGH IS THIS?
>> A GOOD 35 FEET.
IT'S GETTING HIGHER ALL THE
TIME. BUT WE EITHER HAVE A COUNTRY AND
WE HAVE BORDERS OR WE DON'T AT
ALL. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
COME INTO THE COUNTRY BUT
THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN
LEGALLY.
>> CAN I ASK YOU, IT ALWAYS
SEEMED TO ME YOU COULD BUILD A
PRETTY HIGH WALL THEY'LL BUILD
A TUNNEL THEY'LL GET HERE.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT
ILLEGAL HIRING.
THE REPUBLICANS JOINED THE
DEMOCRATS AND SAID WE'RE GOING
TO STOP ILLEGAL HIRING.
THAT'S THE MAGNET.
>> VERIFY --
>> ARE YOU FOR IT?
>> I'M FOR IT.
>> WHAT SHOULD BE THE PUNISHMENT
FOR -- >> WELL CAN YOU BE --
>> YOU'RE COLLABORATING WITH AN
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
>> IT CAN BE VERY STRONG.
>> WHY WON'T THESE PEOPLE IN
YOUR PARTY PASS IT?
>> THEY DON'T BELIEVE.
>> THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN IT.
>> SOME OF THEM DO.
I'M USING E VERIFY ON JUST ABOUT
EVERY JOB AT DORAL, BUT BUILDING
THE OLD POST OFFICE ON
PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE THAT WILL
SOON BE A PHENOMENAL HOTEL.
I'M USING E VERIFY IT WORKS.
>> THE PERSON WHO HIRES SOMEONE
ILLEGALLY TO SAVE MONEY ON
LABOR. YOU'RE BASICALLY ENCOURAGING
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THAT'S WHY
THIS GUY OR WOMAN IS COMING
HERE RIGHT?
>> YES AND YOU CAN SOLVE THE
PROBLEM WITH E VERIFY.
>> WHY DOESN'T YOUR PARTY AND
YOU BACK IT?
>> I BACK IT. >> NO, THEY DON'T.
>> MANY PEOPLE --
>> RYAN WON'T BRING IT UP ON THE FLOOR.
THEY TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION. THEY WANT TO PLAY THESE GAMES,
THEY LIKE THE CHEAP LABOR, DON'T
THEY?
>> WELL THEY DO IN ONE WAY, BUT
MANY PEOPLE DON'T. THEY DON'T WANT IT.
>> THE REGULAR WORKING GUY
DOESN'T WANT IT BUT BUSINESS
GUYS THE CORPORATE LEADERS WANT
THE CHEAP LABOR.
>> WE NEED BORDERS, WE HAVE A
COUNTRY, WE NEED BORDERS.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU, WE EITHER
HAVE A COUNTRY OR WE DON'T.
THE WAY TO STOP ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION IS TO STOP ILLEGAL
HIRING.
IT MAKES ECONOMIC SENSE.
>> I CAN DO THAT ON EVERY JOB I
HAVE.
>> LET'S GO TO THE NEXT
QUESTION.
>> I'M CHRIS PARKER.
MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS GIVEN
RECENT EVENTS WITH MINORITY
PROTESTERS AT YOUR CAMPAIGN
RALLIES. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME REASONS WHY
A MINORITY VOTER SUCH AS MYSELF
WOULD VOTE FOR YOU.
>> >> I'M GOING TO BRING JOBS
BACK TO THIS COUNTRY.
YOU LOOK AT AFRICAN-AMERICAN
YOUTH, 59% UNEMPLOYMENT.
YOU GO TO VARIOUS PLACES
BALTIMORE, ALL OF THE --
OAKLAND, DETROIT. YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF NUMBERS.
I'M GOING TO BRING THE JOBS
BACK I'LL TAKE THEM BACK FROM
CHINA, MEXICO.
IT'S EATING OUR LUNCH AT THE
BORDER AND WITH ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, CHRIS.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING, FORD IS
GOING THERE, NABISCO IS GOING
THERE.
CARRIER AIR CONDITIONER
ANNOUNCED THEY'RE MOVING TO
MEXICO. I'M GOING TO BRING BACK JOBS AND
NOT LET PEOPLE GO.
I'M GOING TO MAKE IT SO THEY
WANT TO STAY HERE.
NOBODY CONTACTS FORD NABISCO,
CARRIER. THEY LEAVE THEY LEAVE.
WE DON'T FIGHT TO KEEP THESE
COMPANIES HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT, IT'S GOING
TO BE JOBS.
>> YOU GO TO CHINA AND SEE THE
CRANES ON A FRIDAY NIGHT,
THEY'RE WORKING, THEY'RE
BUILDING. THERE'S CITIES OF 7 MILLION
PEOPLE WE'VE NEVER HEARD OF
UNBELIEVABLE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO REBUILD OUR
CITIES. YOU TALK ABOUT PEN STATION IN
NEW YORK CITY BEING A DUMP
LaGUARDIA BEING A DUMP.
I TOOK THE TRAIN A FEW DAYS AGO,
IT TAKES THREE DAYS.
THE COUNTRY'S WE BEAT IN WORLD
WAR II ALL HAVE STATE OF THE ART
STUFF AND WE'RE BACK 70 YEARS.
>> THEY'RE KILLING US WITH
MONETARY DEVALUATION.
>> NO. >> IT'S TRUE.
>> WE ARE NOT BUILDING HERE.
>> BUT THE REASON IS OUR JOBS
ARE BEING TAKEN OUT, AND THEY'RE
DOING IT WITH DEVALUATION.
YOU LOOK AT WHAT CHINA HAS DONE
WITH THE DEVALUATION OF THE
CURRENCY.
>> OKAY, STOP IT.
HOW MUCH PAPER --
>> YOU STOP IT BY BEING TOUGH,
BY SAYING YOU CAN'T DO WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
CHINA IS THE GRAND MASTER.
YOU. >> DON'T WANT TO GET AWAY WITH
IT.
THEY HAVE A TRILLION DOLLARS ON
OUR PAPER.
AND THEY'RE -- THEY HAVE OUR
PAPER.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO IF
THEY DUMP ALL THAT PAPER IN THE
WORLD MARKET. >> WE OWE THEM $1.7 TRILLION.
>> WHAT IF THEY DUMP ALL THOSE
BONDS?
>> WE'RE GOING TO BE JUST FINE?
>> REALLY?
>> WE'RE GOING TO BE JUST FINE.
>> OUR NUMBER ONE CREDITOR IS
GOING TO DUMP US AS A DEBTOR AND
WE'RE GOING TO BE FINE.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY
JUST FINE UNLESS WE CONTINUE
WITH THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A HIGH DOLLAR.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT
NOW, PEOPLE AREN'T COMING HERE
OUR HIGH DOLLAR WHICH SOUNDS
GOOD TO PEOPLE, EVERYONE SAYS, THAT'S GREAT WE HAVE A STRONG
DOLLAR. WE'RE GETTING KILLED WORLDWIDE.
MANUFACTURING, YOU LOOK AT
TOURISM AND EVERYTHING ELSE
COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY, IT'S
NOT HAPPENING, WE'RE GETTING OUT
MANEUVERED BY DEVALUATION.
>> YOU TAKE YOUR APPROACH AND
SIGNAL THIS EVERYWHERE.
NATO, THOSE GUYS HAVE TO PAY
THEIR DUES OR WE'RE GOING TO GET
OUT OF THERE.
YOU SAY IT IN NORTH ASIA JAPAN
AND SOUTH KOREA.
YOU SAY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
THE SAUDIS AND THE EMIRATES
START PAYING WE'LL PULL OUT.
IN MEXICO IF YOU DON'T BUILD
THE WALL WE'LL CUT TRADE.
YOUR BARGAINING TECHNIQUE OF
YOURS HAS ALWAYS BEEN I DON'T
NEED THIS DEAL. THESE EXISTING DEALS WE HAVE
WITH EUROPE --
>> WE DON'T --
>> WE DON'T NEED THOSE DEALS?
>> NO.
>> DO WE NEED NATO?
>> NO WE DON'T NEED NATO IN ITS
CURRENT FORM.
WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY --
>> HOW ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST?
>> WELL YOU KNOW WHAT WITH
FRACKING AND ALL THE THINGS
TAKING PLACE.
CANADA HAS MORE OIL THAN ALMOST
ANYBODY.
WE AREN'T DEPEN DENT ON THAT.
>> WE DON'T NEED JORDAN THE
SAUDIS OR THE EMIRATES.
>> PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY THEIR FAIR
SHARE.
A YEAR AGO, WHEN OIL PRICES WERE
HIGH, NOW IT'S LOWER, BUT
THEY'RE STILL MAKING A FORTUNE.
SAUDI ARABIA WAS MAKING $1
BILLION A DAY.
>> YOU ACT LIKE YOU'RE THE ONLY
ONE WHO CAN CUT A DEAL.
>> THEY DON'T CUT DEALS LIKE I
CUT DEALS.
THAT I CAN TELL YOU.
>> AND YOU'RE GOING TO WALK ON
ALL OF THESE DEALS?
>> YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
WALK. >> HOW DO YOU WALK FROM NATO
THE MIDDLE EAST, NORTH ASIA
CHINA, ALL THESE RELATIONSHIPS,
JUST DROP THEM ALL?
>> LOOK NATO --
>> WE HAVE OLD DEALS.
>> 68 YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE CUNS
GETTING A FREE RIDE BENEFIT
FROM NATO MUCH MORE THAN WE DO
WE DON'T BENEFIT THAT MUCH.
>> I THINK YOU CAN TURN DOWN NEW
DEALS, ALL THESE DEALS WE'VE HAD
FOR YEARS LIKE NATO
RELATIONSHIPS WITH JAPAN.
>> JAPAN DOESN'T WANT --
>> OF COURSE, WE --
>> DO YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A
NUCLEAR WEAPON.
>> I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS
WE SPEND A FORTUNE DEFENDING
JAPAN. WE SPEND A FORTUNE DEFENDING
GERMANY.
WE SPEND A FORTUNE DEFENDING
SOUTH KOREA.
I ORDERED THOUSANDS OF
TELEVISION SETS THEY COME FROM
SOUTH KOREA.
THEY'RE A BEHEMOTH.
WHY AREN'T THEY REIMBURSING US?
WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING FOR A
PORTION OF THE COSTS. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT IF YOU
CAN GET IT. >> I'LL GET IT.
I'LL GET IT. I'M THE MESSENGER.
>> ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT
BECAUSE THEY FEAR YOU OR YOU'RE
GOING TO WALK?
>> NO BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR
BEST INTEREST.
>> YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT
NORTH KOREA BUILDING THEIR OWN
NUCLEAR CAPE ABLE?
>> I'LL KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS
BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR FAIR
SHARE. >> SOUTH KOREA IS A BEHEMOTH.
>> THE LAST TIME WE PULLED
TROOPS AT THE 38th PARALLEL IT
WAS THE KOREAN WAR.
>> WE COMPETE WITH SOUTH KOREA,
I HAVE BUILDINGS IN SOUTH KOREA.
I GET ALONG GREAT WITH PEOPLE IN
SOUTH KOREA.
>> YOU WON'T BE IF YOU PULL THE
TROOPS.
>> THE TOP PEOPLE USED TO TELL
ME THEY CANNOT BELIEVE THEY GET
AWAY WITH WHAT THEY GIVE AWAY
WITH.
>> YOU KNOW WHO ELSE?
CHINA, I HAVE THE LARGEST BANK
IN THE WORLD IN MY BUILDING.
I HAVE THE BANK OF AMERICA IN MY
BUILDING IN SAN FRANCISCO.
I GOT THROUGH CHINA.
THEY CAN'T BELIEVE THEY GET AWAY
WITH WHAT THEY GET AWAY WITH.
>> THEY GET AWAY WITH IT
BECAUSE WE OWE THEM A TRILLION
DOLLARS. >> I'M MONDAY OPEN LIESING HERE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON WHAT IS
YOUR STANCE ON WOMAN RIGHTS AND
THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE IN THEIR
OWN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH.
>> I'M PRO LIFE.
I THINK YOU KNOW THAT.
AND I -- WITH EXCEPTIONS WITH
THE THREE EXCEPTIONS.
BUT PRETTY MUCH THAT'S MY
STANCE, IS THAT OKAY?
YOU UNDERSTAND?
>> WHAT SHOULD THE LAW BE ON
ABORTION?
>> WELL I HAVE BEEN PRO LIFE.
>> I KNOW WHAT SHOULD THE
LAW -- I KNOW YOUR PRINCIPLE,
WHAT SHOULD BE THE LAW.
>> THEY'VE SET THE LAW, AND
FRANKLY THE JUDGES -- YOU'RE
GOING TO BE HAVE A VERY BIG
ELECTION COMING UP FOR THAT
REASON.
YOU HAVE JUDGES WHERE IT'S A
REAL TIPPING POINT.
WITH THE LOSS OF SCALIA THIS
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS GOING
TO BE VERY IMPORTANT, WHEN YOU
SAY, WHAT'S THE LAW?
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE LAW IS
GOING TO BE IT DEPENDS ON WHO
GETS ELECTED.
SOMEONE IS GOING TO APPOINT
CONSERVATIVE JUDGES AND
SOMEONE'S GOING TO APPOINT
LIBERAL JUDGES.
>> I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE PRO
LIFE POSITION. I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE, IT'S
HUMAN LIFE.
WHAT CRIME IS IT?
>> IT'S HUMAN LIFE?
>> NO, SHOULD THE WOMAN BE
PUNISHED FOR HAVING AN ABORTION?
>> WELL LOOK --
>> THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN
DODGE. IF YOU SAY ABORTION IS A CRIME,
ABORTION IS MURDER YOU HAVE TO
DEAL WITH IT UNDER THE LAW.
>> PEOPLE IN CERTAIN PARTS OF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD SAY
YES, THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
>> HOW ABOUT YOU?
>> I WOULD SAY IT'S A VERY
SERIOUS PROBLEM, AND IT'S A
PROBLEM WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON.
IT'S VERY --
>> YOU'RE FOR BANNING IT.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THEM IN
JAIL? >> NO, I'M ASKING YOU.
YOU WANT TO BAN IT.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> I AM PRO LIFE.
>> HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY BAN
ABORTION? >> YOU'LL GO BACK TO A POSITION
WHERE PEOPLE WILL PERHAPS GO TO
ILLEGAL PLACES.
>> YEAH. >> BUT YOU HAVE TO BAN IT.
>> YOU BAN IT THEY GO TO
SOMEONE WHO FLUNKED OUT OF
MEDICAL SCHOOL. >> ARE YOU CATHOLIC?
>> YES. >> HOW DO YOU ACCEPT THE
CHURCH'S POSITION?
>> I ACCEPT THE TEACHINGS --
>> DO YOU CONCUR CAN THEIR
POSITION?
>> I CONCUR WITH THE MORAL POSITION.
>> WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT YOUR
CHURCH. >> THEY'RE ALLOWED -- THE
CHURCHES MAKE THEIR MORAL
JUDGMENTS, YOU RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
WILL BE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE
UNITED STATES.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN PUNISHMENT FOR
ABORTION YES OR NO AS A
PRINCIPLE. >> THE ANSWER IS, THERE HAS TO
BE SOME FORM OF PUNISHMENT?
>> FOR THE WOMAN?
>> TEN SECONDS, TEN YEARS, WHAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU TAKE POSITIONS ON
EVERYTHING ELSE?
>> I DO TAKE POSITIONS ON
EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S A
COMPLICATED POSITION. >> YOU'RE PRO LIFE MEANING YOU
WANT TO BAN IT.
>> BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS
PRO LIFE.
>> LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT MY
RELIGION.
>> I AM. YOU SAY YOU'RE A VERY GOOD
CATHOLIC.
>> I DIDN'T SAY VERY GOOD I
SAID I'M CATHOLIC.
SECONDLY, YOU'RE RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT, I'M NOT.
WHAT SHOULD A WOMAN FACE IF SHE
CHOSES TO HAVE AN ABORTION.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME?
>> GAME?
YOU SAID YOU'RE PRO LIFE.
>> I AM.
>> THAT MEANS BANNING ABORTION.
>> SO IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH --
>> THIS ISN'T SPAIN, THE CHURCH
DOESN'T CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT. >> WHAT IS THE PUNISHMENT UNDER
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
>> DON'T ASK ME ABOUT MY
RELIGION, I'M ASKING YOU, YOU
WANT TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
TELL ME WHAT THE LAW SHOULD BE.
>> I HAVE NOT --
>> YOU SAY YOU'RE PRO LIFE.
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> I AM PRO LIFE I HAVE NOT
DETERMINED WHAT THE PUNISHMENT
WOULD BE. >> WHY NOT?
>> BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DETERMINED
IT. >> YOU DECIDED TO BE PLO LIFE.
HERE'S MY PROBLEM WHERE THIS IN
YOU DON'T HAVE A PUNISHMENT FOR
ABORTION, I DON'T BELIEVE IN IT
OF COURSE. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FIND A WAY
TO HAVE AN ABORTION.
>> YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE IN PUNISHING
ANYBODY FOR HAVING AN ABORTION.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> I HAVE A VIEW A MORAL VIEW
I BELIEVE WE LIVE IN A FREE
COUNTRY. I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A
COUNTRY SAO FASCISTIC THAT COULD
STOP A WOMAN FROM MAKING THAT
DECISION.
DONALD TRUMP, YOU WOULDN'T BE
FAMILIAR WITH A SOCIETY LIKE
THAT. >> YOU SPOKE HIGHLY OF YOUR
RELIGION AND YOUR CHURCH.
YOUR CHURCH IS VERY STRONGLY PRO
LIFE, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO YOUR
CHURCH? >> I SAY, I ACCEPT YOUR MORAL
AUTHORITY.
IN THE UNITED STATES THE PEOPLE
MAKE THE DECISIONS, THE COURTS
RULE ON WHAT'S IN THE
CONSTITUTION, AND WE LIVE BY
THAT. >> YEAH BUT YOU DON'T LIVE BY
IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACCEPT IT.
YOU CAN'T ACCEPT IT.
>> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE MATTERS
OF THE LAW AND RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND THIS
IS THE DIFFICULT SITUATION YOU
PLACED YOURSELF IN.
YOU WANT TO BAN ABORTION.
HOW DO YOU BAN ABORTION WITHOUT
SOME KIND OF SANCTION.
THEN YOU GET INTO A TRICKY
QUESTION OF A SANCTION.
A FINE ON HUMAN LIFE WHICH YOU
CALL MURDER? >> IT WILL HAVE TO BE --
>> A FINE IMPRISONMENT FOR A
YOUNG WOMAN WHO FINDS HERSELF
PREGMENT? WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THAT GETS HER
PREGNANT IS HE RESPONSIBLE UNDER
THE LAW FOR THESE ABORTIONS?
>> IT HASN'T -- DIFFERENT
FEELINGS, DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
I WOULD SAY NO.
>> WELL, THERE'S -- THEY'RE
USUALLY INVOLVED.
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>>> WELCOME BACK TO GREEN BAY
WISCONSIN, FOR OUR TOWN HALL
WITH DONALD TRUMP.
WE'RE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
WISCONSIN GREEN NOW FROM OUR AUDIENCE.
CONGRATULATIONS GRANDPOP.
>> I'M DANA SCHROM COULD YOU
PROVIDE US A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR
POSITION ON THE RIGHT TO MARRY
FOR GAYS AND LESBIANS AND IF
YOU'LL CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR
EQUALITY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
>> THE COURTS HAVE DECIDED, I
WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THE STATES
MAKE THE DECISION.
THE COURTS HAVE DECIDED.
>> COULD YOU MAYBE TALK ABOUT
HOW YOU MIGHT INCREASE EQUALITY
FOR PEOPLE OF THE TRANSGENDER
COMMUNITY? >> I WOULD SAY THAT I'M GOING TO
GO BY THE LAWS OF THE COURTS
AND THE COURTS -- IT'S REALLY UP
IN FLEX RIGHT NOW.
BUT I'LL GO BY THE LAWS.
>> NEXT QUESTION, GO AHEAD.
>> HI. >> HI MR. TRUMP.
I'M WONDERING WHAT YOUR PLAN IS
FOR ADDRESSING RISING COLLEGE
TUITION COSTS AND STUDENT LOAN
DEBT. WOULD YOU SUPPORT SOMETHING AS
AGGRESSIVE AS STUDENT LOAN
FORGIVENESS?
>> I GET THIS QUESTION MORE THAN
ANY OTHER QUESTION WHEN I'M WITH
YOUNG COLLEGE STUDENTS.
THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY UP TO THEIR
NECK IN DEBT AND THEY CAN'T GET
JOBS WHEN THEY GRADUATE EVEN IF
THEY'RE GOOD STUDENTS IN MANY
CASES AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT
TO DO. WE'RE GOING DO WORK ON A PLAN
WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE
EXTENSIONS, VERY LOW INTEREST.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON IT
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
CHRIS, I GET THAT QUESTION MORE
THAN ANY OTHER QUESTION WHAT
ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT STUDENT
DEBT. IT'S AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM IN THIS
CUN.
THE BIGGEST PART OF THE PROBLEM
IS, THEY GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE,
GOOD COLLEGES AND THEY CAN'T GET
JOBS. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON IT.
>> YEAH. >> MY NAME IS ELENA, I'M A
RETIRED VETERAN.
I WONDER WHO YOUR TOP MILITARY
ADVISERS ARE, AND WHO YOUR TOP
VETERANS AFFAIRS ADVISER IS?
>> I REALLY ANNOUNCED -- I'M
GOING TO BE ANNOUNCING SOME AT
THE END OF THIS WEEK.
I ANNOUNCED A WHOLE LIST I GAVE
IT OUT LAST WEEK WE HAVE WALID
FAREZ, AND SOME TREMENDOUS
PEOPLE.
AND FRANKLY I THOUGHT YOU WERE
GOING TO ASK ME ANOTHER
QUESTION. THE VETS ARE BEING TREATED
HORRIBLY. YOU TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION THEY ARE BEING
TREATED WORSE THAN ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS.
WHAT'S GOING ON, IT'S CORRUPT,
THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION AND
INCOMPETENTLY RUN.
I CAN TELL YOU AS A VET, YOU'RE
GOING TO BE VERY VERY HAPPY
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>>> WE'RE BACK TO GREEN BAY
WISCONSIN.
THE MAYOR IN THE CITY JAMES
SCHMIDT.
>> WELCOME TO GREEN BAY.
AS A FELLOW POLITICIAN, SOME OF
US ARE EMBARRASSED ABOUT THE DE
CORE UM OF THIS CAMPAIGN AND
THE ATTITUDES AND FLAVOR THIS
HAS TAKEN.
I WONDER WHAT YOU CAN DO AS THE
FRONT-RUNNER OF THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY TO REALLY ELEVATE THE
ISSUES AND GET AWAY FROM SOME OF
THE PETTINESS WE'VE BEEN
EXPERIENCING. >> FIRST OF ALL,
CONGRATULATIONS, 14 YEARS AS
MAYOR. THAT'S A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
WE HAVE SOME HARD ISSUES I
WOULD MUCH RATHER TALK ABOUT THE
ISSUES THAN THE THINGS THAT ARE
BROUGHT UP.
THINGS GET BROUGHT UP.
AND SOMETIMES THEY GET BROUGHT
UP BECAUSE IT'S ME AND
SOMETIMES THEY GET BROUGHT UP FOR A LOT OF OTHER REASONS, I
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE
ELEVATE THE CONVERSATION AND I
AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE
DISCUSSING NUCLEAR AND ALL THE
OTHER ISSUES WE'RE DISCUSSING
THAN THE KIND OF THINGS YOU'RE
REFERRING TO. THANK YOU, MR. PLAYER.
>> HELLO.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> MY NAME IS SHAUNA I'M A
PROFESSOR HERE AT THE
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT.
>> GOOD. >> MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS AROUND
PRISON REFORM. WHAT NEEDS TO BE REFORMED WITH
OUR PRISON SYSTEM AND WITH THAT
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT DRUG
LEGALIZATION PLAYING INTO THE
REFORM. >> WE TALK ABOUT MARIJUANA, AND
IN TERMS OF MEDICAL, I THINK I
AM BASICALLY FOR THAT.
I'VE HEARD SOME WONDERFUL THINGS
IN TERMS OF MEDICAL.
I'M WATCHING COLORADO VERY
CAREFULLY TO SEE WHAT'S
HAPPENING OUT THERE.
I'M GETTING SOME NEGATIVE
REPORTS, I'M GETTING SOME OKAY
REPORTS, BUT I'M GETTING SOME
NEGATIVE REPORTS OUT OF
COLORADO. I THINK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO
COLORADO. PRISON REFORM OUR PRISON SYSTEM
IS A ZWAFTER, IT'S A COMPLETE
DISASTER. ALMOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE CHRIS
IS A DISASTER.
>> REALLY?
AMERICA'S GREAT.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
OKAY.
BUT -- >> WHY DOES EVERYBODY WANT TO
COME HERE IF WE'RE NOT GREAT?
>> EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME HERE
AND EVERYBODY DOES BETTER HERE
THAN THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM.
>> I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT OF
PRIVATIZATIONS. >> WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS YOU
HEARD ABOUT COLORADO.
WHO DO YOU WANT SMOKING DOPE?
DO YOU WANT YOUR TRAIN
CONDUCTOR, AIRLINE PILOT?
MAYBE THE GUY THAT TEACHES
PHILOSOPHY
PHILOSOPHY, DOES ANYONE TRUST
ANYBODY WHO'S HIGH TO DO
ANYTHING?
RECREATIONAL DRUGS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> THERE'S A LASTING NEGATIVE
IMPACT.
>> THE LOSS OF AMBITION I THINK
IS THERE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF SOMETHING.
THAT BOOK HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN
YET BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WRITTEN
PRETTY SOON.
I'M NOT HEARING POSITIVE THINGS.
>> YOU'RE ON THE RECORD SAYING
THERE MIGHT BE RIOTS IN THE
EVENT THAT YOU'RE NOT THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY NOMINEE.
>> BY THE WAY, I HOPE NOT.
>> I HOPE NOT TOO.
I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT THAT.
IN THE EVENT A BROKERED
CONVENTION DOESN'T OFFER THE
NOMINATION TO YOU?
>> WE'LL HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER
OF VOTES, NO MATTER WHAT
HAPPENS, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE
DEFINITELY THE LARGEST NUMBER OF
DELEGATES BY FAR.
WILL WE GET TO 1237?
I THINK SO I HOPE WE WILL.
IT WILL BE VERY NICE I'LL DO A
VERY GOOD JOB.
I THINK WE WILL.
IF WE DON'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU
WHAT HAPPENS.
PEOPLE ARE BEING DISENFRANCHISED
IN THIS COUNTRY.
THEY LOOK AT ME AS SOMEBODY
THAT'S GOING TO BRING THEM BACK.
YOU HAVEN'T HAD A REAL SALARY
INCREASE IF YOU'RE A BLUE COLLAR
WORKER IN OVER 12 YEARS, IT'S
GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND
WORSE. THESE ARE SMART PEOPLE THEY'RE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALWAYS HAD GOOD
JOBS, THEY'RE JOBS ARE TAKEN
AWAY MANY THEY'RE NOT DOING AS
WELL AS THEY WERE DOING 12 AND
15 YEARS AGO.
I WILL BRING THAT BACK AND THEY
KNOW I WILL BRING THAT BACK.
I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT IS GOING
TO BRING IT BACK.
I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT REALLY
EVEN TALKS ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE
VERY VERY UPSET IF I'M LEADING.
IF I'M NOT LEADING, SOMEBODY
ELSE HAS MORE VOTES, THAT'S A
DIFFERENT THING.
BUT IF I'M LEADING BY A LOT, AND
I'M A LITTLE SHORT OF THAT
NUMBER. THAT NUMBER IS FICTITIOUS.
I'M NOT RUNNING AGAINST ONE OR
TWO PEOPLE.
BUT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS
WE'VE BEEN RUNNING AGAINST MANY,
MANY PEOPLE.
IF I'M A LITTLE BIT SHORT BUT
I'M MILLIONS OF VOTES AND
HUNDREDS OF DELEGATES AHEAD OF
OTHER PEOPLE I THINK YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE SOME VERY UNHAPPY
PEOPLE I HOPE NOTHING BAD
HAPPENS, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE SOME VERY VERY ANGRY AND
UNHAPPY PEOPLE.
>> WHAT WILL YOU BE?
>> I THINK --
>> WHAT WILL YOU SAY TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR
YOU IN THAT MOMENT? >> I CAN'T SAY YET.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT I WILL DO
OR WHAT I WILL SAY, I CAN SAY
THIS IF I'M WAY AHEAD BY ALL
ACCOUNTS. IF I'M WAY AHEAD, I WOULD BE
VERY DISAPPOINTED.
YOU KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A
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>>> WE'RE BACK WITH DONALD
TRUMP, JUST A COUPLE MORE
MINUTES. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE
HERE, A COUPLE THINGS IN THIS
CAMPAIGN YOU'VE SAID WERE
GRABBED ME.
I THOUGHT WERE POWERFUL.
I WANT YOU TO TAKE A MINUTE
EITHER WE HAVE A COUNTRY OR YOU
DON'T? WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT?
>> WE HAVE BORDER S, WE CAN'T
LET PEOPLE WALK IN AND OUT OF
OUR COUNTRY LIKE THEY DO RIGHT
NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE BORDERS.
THE BORDER PATROL JUST TODAY
ENDORSED ME, THAT'S A BIG
ENDORSEMENT.
>> WHAT DO THEY THINK OF THIS
WALL IDEA? >> THEY LIKE THE WALL AND TO BE
GIVEN THEIR STRENGTH BACK.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR
JOB.
>> YOU'RE ASKING THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT TO PUT A WALL UP TO
KEEP ITS OWN PEOPLE IN?
>> NO NO NO WE'RE PUTTING THE
WALL UP, THEY'RE GOING TO PAY
FOR IT.
>> THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE
BERLIN WALL.
WHY WOULD ANY COUNTRY PAY TO
KEEP ITS OWN PEOPLE IN?
IT'S NEVER HAPPENED.
EXCEPT THE BERLIN WALL.
>> WE HAVE A TRADE DEFICIT WITH
MEXICO, $58 BILLION A YEAR.
THE WALL IS GOING TO COST
APPROXIMATELY $10 BILLION.
BELIEVE ME THEY WILL PAY IN ONE
FORM OR -- >> IF NOT?
>> THEY COULD STOP A LOT OF THE
PROBLEM. IF YOU WANT TO BECOME A CITIZEN
OF MEXICO YOU WANT TO GET INTO
MEXICO, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
>> I KNOW I'M NOT SAYING
THEY'RE NOT HYPOCRITICAL.
>> THEY COULD STOP A LOT OF THE
PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING BY
THEMSELVES, THEY DON'T CLUES TO
DO IT NOT RIGHT.
WE HAVE A TRADE DEFICIT, $58
BILLION. >> WE CUT OFF CHINA.
THIS IS YOUR STRATEGY IN EVERY
CASE, WE CAN WALK.
NO MORE TRADE WITH MEXICO.
>> YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO --
>> NO MORE TROOPS IN EUROPE?
>> BY WATT I, WHEN I SAY NO MORE
TRADE.
ONCE THEY KNOW YOU ARE REALLY
WILLING TO GO THAT EXTRA LENGTH
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE TRADE, BUT
WE'LL MAKE GOOD DEALS.
WE'RE MAKING --
>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS ALWAYS WE
WALK.
>> YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK
YES. IT'S UNLIKELY THAT YOU'LL HAVE
TO, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO --
>> THESE COULD BE VERY TRICKY.
THANK YOU.
THIS ARGUMENT WILL CONTINUE.
>> THANK YOU, DONALD TRUMP, AND
THANK YOU TO THE UNIVERSITY OF
WISCONSIN, GREEN BAY.
COMING UP NEXT THE BIG NIGHT OF
POLITICS CONTINUES WITH MSNBC
WITH RACHEL MADDOW AND BOTH
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HILLARY
CLINTON AND BERNIE SANDERS.
GOOD NIGHT FROM GREEN BAY.
>>> SO WELCOME TO BACK TO BACK
FRONT-RUNNERS NIGHT. CHRIS MATTHEWS JUST HOSTED THAT
TOWN HALL EVENT IN WISCONSIN
WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S
FRONT-RUNNER DONALD TRUMP.
IN A MOMENT WE HAVE MY
INTERVIEW WITH THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY'S FRONT-RUNNER HILLARY
CLINTON. SHE WAS IN NEW YORK TO DO THIS
EVENT YOU SEE HERE AT THE APOLLO
THEATER IN HARLEM.
LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A PEAK
BEHIND THE CURTAIN HERE.
LET ME BE HONEST WITH YOU, SHOW
YOU HOW THINGS GO BEHIND THE
SCENES WITH THESE THINGS.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO
EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE.
THIS WAS HILLARY CLINTON'S RALLY
TODA