WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.000 Where have you been, Polly? 00:02.000 --> 00:03.000 Polly? 00:03.000 --> 00:06.000 My name isn't Polly. You must have made a mistake. 00:06.000 --> 00:09.000 I've never seen them before in my life. 00:09.000 --> 00:12.000 Alice Nightingale's the doctor's daughter. 00:12.000 --> 00:14.000 She rather fancies herself as a nurse. 00:14.000 --> 00:16.000 Always got her bandages and things with her. 00:16.000 --> 00:18.000 A bit silly, really. 00:18.000 --> 00:20.000 Yes, there's a lot of valuable stuff still there. 00:20.000 --> 00:22.000 Ask her if she can be supervisor. 00:22.000 --> 00:24.000 You couldn't be a super anything. 00:24.000 --> 00:25.000 I could. 00:25.000 --> 00:26.000 What, then? 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 Well, I could be a, um, supervisor. 00:29.000 --> 00:33.000 Super, silly, ass. You mean? 00:33.000 --> 00:36.000 Ha, ha, ha! 00:36.000 --> 00:39.000 Come on, another couple of trips will finish it. 00:39.000 --> 00:41.000 But press on regardless. 00:41.000 --> 00:43.000 One of those, that ain't it? 00:43.000 --> 00:44.000 Hello. 00:44.000 --> 00:47.000 Hello. Isn't it a terribly clever idea, a party on a train like this? 00:47.000 --> 00:48.000 Don't you think it's just fabby? 00:48.000 --> 00:49.000 Very apt. 00:49.000 --> 00:51.000 There you are, old man. 00:51.000 --> 00:53.000 I'm afraid you'll have to make do with this. 00:53.000 --> 00:55.000 There don't seem to be any sources of milk. 00:55.000 --> 00:57.000 My name's Preston, by the way. 00:57.000 --> 00:58.000 Frederick Preston. 00:58.000 --> 00:59.000 John Steed. 00:59.000 --> 01:00.000 Delighted to meet you. 01:00.000 --> 01:02.000 And this is, uh, uh, what did you say your name was? 01:02.000 --> 01:03.000 Jane Wentworth. 01:03.000 --> 01:04.000 Jane? 01:04.000 --> 01:05.000 I'm a pussycat. 01:05.000 --> 01:06.000 So I see. 01:06.000 --> 01:07.000 Whoops! 01:07.000 --> 01:09.000 You'll make me purr. 01:09.000 --> 01:11.000 Actually, though, I'm very glad you arrived. 01:11.000 --> 01:13.000 Well, I thought everybody was going to be very stodgy. 01:13.000 --> 01:16.000 Well, Mr. Steed, if it were always like this, commuting would be a pleasure, wouldn't it? 01:16.000 --> 01:18.000 It would indeed. And cheers to us all. 01:18.000 --> 01:19.000 Cheers. 01:19.000 --> 01:22.000 Well, uh... 01:28.000 --> 01:29.000 Who is it? 01:29.000 --> 01:31.000 The management. 01:37.000 --> 01:40.000 This is Mr. Regler, Gnaeus Folline. 01:40.000 --> 01:41.000 Where's Mr. Sempler? 01:41.000 --> 01:42.000 Out. 01:42.000 --> 01:43.000 I can see that, but where? 01:43.000 --> 01:46.000 I've no idea. 01:46.000 --> 01:49.000 I must ask you, Gnaeus Folline, for identification. 01:49.000 --> 01:52.000 Look, I'm a friend of Mr. Templer's. 01:59.000 --> 02:02.000 Miss Frances G. Royden. 02:02.000 --> 02:04.000 Well, hello. 02:04.000 --> 02:06.000 We met the other night, remember? 02:06.000 --> 02:08.000 Oh, yeah. I think I do. 02:08.000 --> 02:10.000 You think you do? I must have made a big impression on you. 02:10.000 --> 02:11.000 No, it's not that. 02:11.000 --> 02:12.000 What is it, then? 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 Must be something pretty big not to have noticed me. 02:14.000 --> 02:15.000 I'm sorry. 02:15.000 --> 02:17.000 Oh, he says he's sorry. 02:17.000 --> 02:19.000 Well, there's no law against sitting here, is there? 02:19.000 --> 02:21.000 Well, there should be when you've got that look on your face. 02:21.000 --> 02:23.000 Look, I'll show you. 02:26.000 --> 02:27.000 Is it as bad as that, then? 02:27.000 --> 02:28.000 Worse. 02:28.000 --> 02:30.000 So, spill the beans, sailor. 02:30.000 --> 02:32.000 Give us the facts. What's your problem? 02:32.000 --> 02:34.000 Ah, you wouldn't understand. You think I'm some kind of nut? 02:34.000 --> 02:35.000 Try us. 02:35.000 --> 02:36.000 Well, it's my ship, see. 02:36.000 --> 02:39.000 It's gone off to the West Indies, and I've got a shore posting. 02:39.000 --> 02:40.000 In barracks for six months. 02:40.000 --> 02:44.000 And you'll miss the swaying palms, the white beaches, the blue seas. 02:44.000 --> 02:47.000 It would be very funny if you finished cheering me up. 02:47.000 --> 02:51.000 Come on, Dona, let me them. I can't stand people with no sense of humour. 02:51.000 --> 02:53.000 I thought so. 02:53.000 --> 02:55.000 We were at school together. 02:55.000 --> 02:56.000 Were we? 02:56.000 --> 02:57.000 Mm-hm. 02:57.000 --> 02:58.000 I'm Emma. 02:58.000 --> 02:59.000 Emma. 02:59.000 --> 03:03.000 Emma, you're not the girl who climbed the clock tower and put the unmentionable on the top of the... 03:03.000 --> 03:06.000 Do you know, I can still see the sun glinting on it. 03:06.000 --> 03:11.000 And the head girl called the whole school to give three chairs for the constable who bought it dying. 03:11.000 --> 03:13.000 How is your uncle? 03:13.000 --> 03:14.000 Which one? 03:14.000 --> 03:16.000 The rich one, Mr. Lit... Litvanov? 03:16.000 --> 03:17.000 Litov. 03:17.000 --> 03:18.000 Litov. 03:18.000 --> 03:20.000 Oh, still as rich as ever. 03:20.000 --> 03:21.000 Is he still an invalid? 03:21.000 --> 03:23.000 Mm, kidney trouble. 03:23.000 --> 03:25.000 We went to the opera the other night. 03:25.000 --> 03:26.000 Businessmen. 03:26.000 --> 03:29.000 We arrived late and had to leave before the last scene. 03:29.000 --> 03:33.000 Do you know, I've seen Farr's three times, and I still don't know what happens to him in the end. 03:33.000 --> 03:34.000 There we are. Cash or a kind? 03:34.000 --> 03:36.000 A kind, please. And would you send it to this address? 03:36.000 --> 03:37.000 Certainly. 03:37.000 --> 03:38.000 I read that he was leaving London. 03:38.000 --> 03:39.000 Who, Uncle Alex? 03:39.000 --> 03:40.000 Mm. 03:40.000 --> 03:41.000 Never. 03:41.000 --> 03:43.000 He was born an Armenian, but he's British to the core. 03:43.000 --> 03:44.000 Excuse me. 03:44.000 --> 03:46.000 And the devil claims his soul. 03:46.000 --> 03:48.000 I want to get out of this place. Do you understand? 03:48.000 --> 03:54.000 Why, Miss Maclean, did you remove those cigars from Anthony Williams' ashtray? 03:54.000 --> 03:56.000 You don't smoke them, do you? 03:56.000 --> 03:58.000 Doesn't every girl? 03:58.000 --> 04:01.000 Look, I pinch things, anything. 04:01.000 --> 04:02.000 You are a thief. 04:02.000 --> 04:04.000 My only sin. 04:04.000 --> 04:06.000 And a liar. 04:06.000 --> 04:07.000 I'm not. 04:07.000 --> 04:10.000 I want to get out of here. 04:10.000 --> 04:11.000 Please. 04:16.000 --> 04:19.000 Benetos. A heart attack. 04:19.000 --> 04:21.000 Where's Dr. Comitas? 04:21.000 --> 04:22.000 With him. 04:22.000 --> 04:23.000 That fool. 04:23.000 --> 04:25.000 Get Sanders. 04:25.000 --> 04:26.000 I'm leaving. 04:26.000 --> 04:28.000 Stay here. 04:28.000 --> 04:29.000 You can't keep me here. 04:29.000 --> 04:30.000 All right, then. 04:30.000 --> 04:41.000 Writing my book is amazing for me because in a way it's like painting with words for me, you see. 04:41.000 --> 04:54.000 And so to find the memories, what I do before I go to sleep at night, I'm thinking about the next bit that I'm going to be writing. 04:54.000 --> 04:57.000 And then in my dreams the memories are coming. 04:57.000 --> 05:07.000 And so then at 4 o'clock in the morning when the psychic space is very clear, then I'm waking up and I'm remembering things that I hadn't remembered from that day to this. 05:07.000 --> 05:10.000 And so that's the magic time, actually. 05:10.000 --> 05:11.000 I'm stumbling up in the dark. 05:11.000 --> 05:18.000 I light a little candle because this is a very precious time, actually, and it's special. 05:18.000 --> 05:21.000 So it's like a sort of a kind of ritual. 05:21.000 --> 05:25.000 So I light my candle and then I'm writing with a pencil. 05:25.000 --> 05:31.000 I write with a pencil because also for me, this is not an excuse. 05:31.000 --> 05:32.000 I don't do computers. 05:32.000 --> 05:41.000 But also for me, being a painter, to write, to actually write with my hand is part of the expression that I'm putting down. 05:41.000 --> 05:43.000 And then I do the proceeding. 05:43.000 --> 05:50.000 And then later on when it's gone on to a computer and then we have to do all the editing and we have to tighten it up and so forth. 05:50.000 --> 05:57.000 But the actual creative process of going back into my life and remembering things. 05:57.000 --> 06:02.000 And of course, I mean, when it's painful things, then you're reliving it. 06:02.000 --> 06:04.000 But in a way removed. 06:04.000 --> 06:07.000 So like now, for instance, I'm writing about my divorce. 06:07.000 --> 06:11.000 So up will come all the rage and the anger and the hurt and it will all come. 06:11.000 --> 06:19.000 And then extraordinary things will come out like, you know, I have to make major decisions about children and houses. 06:19.000 --> 06:25.000 And actually what will come out is, but I've just ironed your goddamn shirts for 14 years. 06:25.000 --> 06:28.000 You know, and this one of these wonderful things will come. 06:28.000 --> 06:30.000 I write it all down. 06:30.000 --> 06:34.000 I have a mentor who is a brilliant writer and he says, don't get it right. 06:34.000 --> 06:35.000 Get it written. 06:35.000 --> 06:39.000 So I write the whole lot just as it's all pouring out of me. 06:39.000 --> 06:41.000 And then after that, we tidy it and make it tight. 06:41.000 --> 06:47.000 So so otherwise, the poor readers would be inundated with too many words. 06:47.000 --> 06:50.000 So I'm enjoying the process hugely. 06:50.000 --> 06:51.000 I must say. 06:51.000 --> 06:54.000 Do you use friends or family for memory joggers? 06:54.000 --> 06:55.000 Yes. 06:55.000 --> 06:56.000 Oh, yes, absolutely. 06:56.000 --> 06:57.000 Oh, yes, absolutely. 06:57.000 --> 07:03.000 I've just been recently up back up to Norfolk to see friends in Norfolk because we lived in Norfolk for 10 years. 07:03.000 --> 07:13.000 And so I went around all the old friends and and they were remembering bits about my children, bits about my husband and stuff that that I had forgotten. 07:13.000 --> 07:14.000 So that all goes in. 07:14.000 --> 07:16.000 And so I've got my notebooks. 07:16.000 --> 07:17.000 I'm here all that will go in the book. 07:17.000 --> 07:18.000 That's a good one. 07:18.000 --> 07:19.000 That'll go in the book. 07:19.000 --> 07:23.000 So so it's so it's it's like tragedies. 07:23.000 --> 07:24.000 It's comedies. 07:24.000 --> 07:25.000 It's the whole caboose. 07:25.000 --> 07:26.000 It's yes. 07:26.000 --> 07:31.000 If you could pick one part from your book or the next book, it's a very special memory to you. 07:31.000 --> 07:34.000 What would it be? 07:34.000 --> 07:43.000 I suppose I suppose, of course, immediately what comes up is because it's coming up that I have to write it is the death of my daughter. 07:43.000 --> 07:46.000 So then that's a huge that's huge. 07:46.000 --> 07:48.000 You know, that's a huge thing to go. 07:48.000 --> 07:53.000 And of course, you have to go back into that space and remember, how was that? 07:53.000 --> 08:01.000 You know, so then that's you're right on the edge there, you know, and so then that will colour my day, you know, and the other end of the spectrum. 08:01.000 --> 08:08.000 And the and the other end of the spectrum is the love, I think, that I received from people. 08:08.000 --> 08:17.000 You know, the joy is in book one is all those amazing people that I met at the time. 08:17.000 --> 08:20.000 And then I look back and think, God, I was absolutely. 08:20.000 --> 08:21.000 I am absolutely blessed. 08:21.000 --> 08:24.000 You know, I'm totally blessed. 08:24.000 --> 08:28.000 So to to be meeting Peter Cook and meeting Sammy Davis, Jr. 08:28.000 --> 08:36.000 And and and having these people just be buddies, you know, looking back, you think, my God, that that's astounding. 08:36.000 --> 08:38.000 You know, meeting John Lennon. Yeah. 08:38.000 --> 08:41.000 You know, that's amazing. Yes. 08:41.000 --> 08:43.000 Yeah. Resurgence in Doctor Who. 08:43.000 --> 08:46.000 There's a lot of younger viewers have an interest in you. 08:46.000 --> 08:48.000 How are you finding that? I love it. 08:48.000 --> 08:54.000 I love it because the little faces are now coming up my table and and what's deeply flattering. 08:54.000 --> 09:01.000 But also it's magic. The magic of Doctor Who is that these young kids are coming and little faces are coming. 09:01.000 --> 09:04.000 And I'm saying, you know, I used to be, you know, with the. 09:04.000 --> 09:09.000 They say, no, we know, we know, because when Doctor Who's gone dark and there isn't anything for a while, 09:09.000 --> 09:14.000 they're on their computers and they're finding as much as they can of the old. 09:14.000 --> 09:19.000 And what I love is I say, what do you like about the old the old Doctor Who? 09:19.000 --> 09:22.000 And they say, we love the stories because the stories are so good. 09:22.000 --> 09:27.000 So I like that, you see. And so in in my books. 09:27.000 --> 09:31.000 So I go through the Doctor Who period and then I go off and I do all kinds of wild things. 09:31.000 --> 09:41.000 But it ends up again. The loop is complete because it ends up with me being back here today with you guys chattering away. 09:41.000 --> 09:45.000 And in a minute rushing off to listen to Tom Baker because I mustn't miss his panel. 09:45.000 --> 09:50.000 You know, and so I'm still part of it, which once again, I'm so blessed. 09:50.000 --> 09:57.000 You know, and it is magic. It's magic. I was thinking, I was thinking, I was thinking about this event today. 09:57.000 --> 10:05.000 That's this few hours, you know, and that we were all coming from all over the parts of the UK, from Scotland, from Cornwall. 10:05.000 --> 10:14.000 We are converging for these few hours to have this very special thing of listening and talking about this program. 10:14.000 --> 10:21.000 This this has to be utterly unique. And one of the lines that I put in my book, because I just love it. 10:21.000 --> 10:31.000 How could I have known then, back in 1966, that I would become part of cultural immortality? 10:31.000 --> 10:39.000 And that's what Doctor Who has done for us, actually. I feel like bowing in a way. 10:39.000 --> 10:45.000 Yes, yes. You mentioned earlier about the Strange Report. There's been an interest in that again. 10:45.000 --> 10:52.000 Well, of course, it was just wonderful for me. And now it was slightly it was slightly different because this was not sort of BBC. 10:52.000 --> 10:57.000 This was being filmed down at Pinewood. So this was like making a film. So it was 10 days of filming. 10:57.000 --> 11:03.000 And so then it's down to Pinewood every morning. So that's like being in a film. 11:03.000 --> 11:07.000 But once again, once again, I mean, not only am I am I. 11:07.000 --> 11:20.000 I mean, in Doctor Who, I'm working with Patrick Troughton in Strange Report. I'm working with Antony Quayle, two of the absolutely astounding, great British actors. 11:20.000 --> 11:28.000 And so as a young actor, you know, to be with these people, your your level of acting raises to their level. 11:28.000 --> 11:36.000 So it's just exciting to work with them. And at the same time, Strange Report also had a wonderful story. 11:36.000 --> 11:43.000 It's really good directors, really good scripts. Sometimes the scripts were not quite so hot as they could be, but most of them were pretty good. 11:43.000 --> 11:48.000 And all the best actors, you know, Julian Glover was was one of the actors I remember. 11:48.000 --> 11:53.000 And John Thor, you know, just just we had the best actors. 11:53.000 --> 12:02.000 So it was it was it was also very tiring for me because because although it's exciting to work all day, 12:02.000 --> 12:06.000 but then getting home at night and then this I have two young children. 12:06.000 --> 12:10.000 So at the weekends I'd be with my children. So I was trying to do everything. 12:10.000 --> 12:15.000 I was trying to be the best mother and the best actress and do the whole whole and the best wife and do the whole lot. 12:15.000 --> 12:19.000 I don't know that I managed to be best. 12:19.000 --> 12:23.000 Can you remember where you were when you heard the news that Patrick Troughton had died? 12:23.000 --> 12:28.000 Yes, I do remember exactly. I was sitting on a little island in Canada where I was living later on. 12:28.000 --> 12:34.000 And and this is the weird thing. 12:34.000 --> 12:38.000 This is you see, this is what happens for me. The night before I was with a bunch of friends. 12:38.000 --> 12:44.000 We're having dinner and I do this thing. You see, I was just on the island and I was just I was painting houses. 12:44.000 --> 12:51.000 And and suddenly I'm saying, you know, years ago I was in this TV program that's very big in England. 12:51.000 --> 12:54.000 It was called Doctor Who. And I worked with this wonderful actor. 12:54.000 --> 12:58.000 And I spent the entire evening telling stories about Patrick Troughton. 12:58.000 --> 13:05.000 The next day in Canadian time, a friend from England said, called up and said, do you know, he died last night? 13:05.000 --> 13:10.000 As I was telling the stories, he was leaving his body. I know. I know. 13:10.000 --> 13:16.000 So I'm saying, hey, Pat, you know, thanks, man. Lovely. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. 13:16.000 --> 13:21.000 So then you see this more because then when I'm I'm doing I'm doing the portraits of the doctors later on. 13:21.000 --> 13:26.000 And his was the first one I thought, I wonder, I love the man so much. 13:26.000 --> 13:33.000 And with that love, can I actually put that on? Can I can I bring this character into a into a portrait? 13:33.000 --> 13:37.000 So I'm drawing him. And when I get around to making his eyes, I was feeling creepy. 13:37.000 --> 13:44.000 I had goosebumps. I felt him so close to me. And when I'd finished, I was actually quite feeling rather pleased. 13:44.000 --> 13:47.000 This is actually quite good. You know, well, maybe we have to sell it. 13:47.000 --> 13:53.000 You know, you always have to make a bit of money as you go along. Well, I wonder I wonder how much I could ask for such a thing. 13:53.000 --> 13:57.000 I mean, perhaps for the original, perhaps I could ask him a hundred bucks. 13:57.000 --> 14:02.000 I heard his voice in my ears. A hundred bucks, a hundred bucks for a portrait of me. 14:02.000 --> 14:08.000 At least 150. I mean, chuckling away. You see, for me, they don't die. 14:08.000 --> 14:11.000 They don't die. They're all right. And the same with John Pertwee. 14:11.000 --> 14:18.000 When I did John Pertwee's portrait, I'm drawing away and I heard him saying, give the clerk a flourish, darling. 14:18.000 --> 14:22.000 Exactly. I mean, you know, you don't make it up because you hear the voice. 14:22.000 --> 14:27.000 So I gave it a flourish. I'm sure you've been told this a hundred times before. 14:27.000 --> 14:31.000 But what was your particular favourite Doctor Who story? 14:31.000 --> 14:35.000 Michael Kray's and I both would always come up with the same like that. 14:35.000 --> 14:40.000 The smugglers, we love the smugglers. We loved something about being in Cornwall. 14:40.000 --> 14:47.000 And it was a lovely location. But being in Cornwall and being all dressed up in 18th century gear and having all these wonderful 18th century pirates. 14:47.000 --> 14:51.000 That was fun. We like that. We like the historical. We like the Highlanders. 14:51.000 --> 14:57.000 And actually, if you ask Fraser Hines, he says the same thing. We like the historical stories. 14:57.000 --> 15:03.000 I'm going to be doing a Companions Chronicle and they're writing the story now. 15:03.000 --> 15:07.000 And the guy was just telling me what the story is about. It's a historical story. 15:07.000 --> 15:13.000 And it sounded so exciting. Again, I get this is my measure of something being very good. 15:13.000 --> 15:17.000 If I'm getting goosebumps, all right, this is going to be good. So watch out for that. That's coming. 15:17.000 --> 15:19.000 I'm going to be doing it in a week or two. 15:19.000 --> 15:23.000 It's such a shame that the stories you've mentioned are completely missing from the archives. 15:23.000 --> 15:27.000 When did you first discover that some of your stories were missing? 15:27.000 --> 15:35.000 Well, I have this weird thing that actually that I'm kind of rather bemused by that, that I did it all and then it's kind of erased. 15:35.000 --> 15:42.000 In California, there's a group of wonderful painters and they come and they're wonderful painters. 15:42.000 --> 15:48.000 They paint like Renaissance paintings and they do it all in pastel and they do it all on this great big street. 15:48.000 --> 15:52.000 And when the rain comes, it's gone. So I rather like that. 15:52.000 --> 15:56.000 Well, having said that, I'm very pleased that they're doing the restorations. 15:56.000 --> 16:02.000 And I've just done a commentary that goes over the newly restored war machines. 16:02.000 --> 16:07.000 And they've put the whole thing together. And it's not it's all it runs all the way through. 16:07.000 --> 16:14.000 So it's complete. So this is fantastic. And I do it with Michael Ferguson, who directed it at the time. 16:14.000 --> 16:18.000 And then that again, you see, for me was wonderful. Here I sit with Michael Ferguson. 16:18.000 --> 16:23.000 Forty years later and we're rabbiting away and we have to remember, you know, what do you remember of the time? 16:23.000 --> 16:29.000 Well, I'm a woman. What I remember is, oh, those lovely little shoes I wore. 16:29.000 --> 16:33.000 So we were having lovely memories and enjoying very much. 16:33.000 --> 16:40.000 And so hopefully they'll be able to gather a few more stories together and and put them together. 16:40.000 --> 16:45.000 I mean, the fact that the BBC trashed them is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. 16:45.000 --> 17:00.000 OK, Annika, thank you very much for your time. Thank you very much. It's been nice to talk to you both.