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The memories of the faceless ones I remember having to go for an audition

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Now I was lucky there because I had my own police uniform and it was for a policeman

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I also had my own ambulance uniform and eventually I was an ambulance man

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but that way we not only got the job, but you got paid for wearing your own clothes and

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Particularly on the faceless ones. I could remember being an airport policeman and it was bitterly cold and because when you spoke

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your breath looked as if it was cold, so they gave me a cube of ice to suck while I was talking and

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Trust me. I got a coughing fit and the cube of ice flew out and I had to do it again

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But I think if you see any of these shots of that, I think you'll notice that it looks very very

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Dull in the background because I think it was either frosty or snowy, but it was a very cold day

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I think we did that at an airfield probably Denham or

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Elstree or something like that one of these small airfields as far as I could remember that one

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Did you get much of a chance to speak to Patrick Troughton?

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Yes, but

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once again

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We were one big family

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I mean we used to eat together go up to the canteen together and

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Talk to each other on the set when we weren't on when we're actually not working

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We were offset, but we're on stage and as long as they weren't shooting we talk. Yes

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Yes, I think he was the one with the black fringe. I always remember him with a black fringe

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Tom I like Tom very much to me. He was a father figure. He was like the schoolmaster

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he loved that lovely resonant voice and

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He was very he was quite jovial as well when he laughed everybody heard it

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He really goes around the whole studio with that laugh

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Well, I went for this audition and it was at George Lucas and we went to Shepparton Studios and

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I was

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selected to be a

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rebel

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Engineer of the planes and

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I can always remember the first day we got there with you got these massive big planes

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And I had to get out onto the wing and I looked down

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I thought if I slip I've had it because looking at it. They don't look high, but when you're up there, they are very high

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Mark Hamill, and I were quite buddies. I think there's one shot there with who's got his arm around me and

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We

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Went from there. We did that and to us that was a one show. It was then called Star Wars. That was it

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We didn't know it's going to be so successful. Then we did another one another one called

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The Empire Strikes Back, but we did that one at Elstree. We did the first one at Shepparton second one

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we did it Elstree and

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Then we did another one called the return of the Jedi was we've ended the Jedi return of the Jedi thing and

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And

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It was it was very interesting very happy and

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Well, it was such a phenomenon because we never knew that it was going to go on and on, you know

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it's a and it just happened that they we got enough notice to see that we were available to do the job and

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Since then it's something got big and everybody wants to know about space what what they did do when they when they when they put

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it out on video

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George Lucas changed the title from Star Wars to a new hope but originally that was Star Wars and that was the only one

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So he's put it now as a bit so for a new hope five

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Empire Strikes Back and six return of the Jedi

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Oh, yes, yeah

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It's amazing. It really is amazing the amount of people that come from all over to and I've got a lot of fan motor

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Which is another amazes me because somehow they find out where you are how to get in touch with you

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They write letters to and give you information which you didn't even know

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So you have to look back in all your books say oh, yeah, they're right. I didn't know about it

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I mean even this one that we're talking about now the doctor who this person wrote to me and said it must be very

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Interesting working on 15 episodes of doctor who and I thought what are they talking about? They've got the wrong person

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So I look up in my books going back to the 60s

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I think it was and I thought I didn't realize I did all that much and they were right 15 episodes

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And they listed as you got there. They listed the names of programs and the characters like well, but as I say

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They do a lot of research. I mean to me it was a something that had been and done and gone

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but

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Other people seem to be more interested in it, which which is good because it's revived it interested

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It's you know, it's a big great big family now and everybody and I like meeting these people

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They're smashing people and I've had letters from all over the place. I've had letters from Paris and Belgium

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Denver, Colorado

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United Kingdom Australia, I didn't realize actually getting back to doctor who there's so many fan clubs all over the world

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I had a letter from a girl in Scotland

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She said it's through you people on doctor who that I've got friends all over the world now

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Because they correspond with each other in these different clubs

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But as I say, it suddenly came up from nowhere

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Maybe it was going all the time and I didn't know about it, but it's got very big now

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Thank you, I only hope that you can use some of it