Do we have time for questions?
I think so.
If I wasn't provocative, I didn't do my job.
So I will start and give people some time to think.
So one of the functions you mentioned that we need to retain and preserve from
libraries is landing in the digital environment.
Because antiquated most current libraries have an exemption and
they can land physical problems.
Should we start with changing the law or inventing different
mechanisms for landing?
Laws usually come after the fact.
When I've seen laws try to be done proactively, they usually get it wrong.
So then how do you do things after the fact?
It means that we start to do the things that we think are important to
do as our jobs.
That we are librarians and I don't see any law that goes and says we don't
want libraries anymore.
And what libraries do?
Collect, preserve, provide access, and interoperate.
And if there are threats to those basic four, then it probably
gets put before the legislatures.
So I think that we actually have to lead, which
isn't easy for our profession.
We're a service-oriented profession.
But we have to lead.
And it's not going to be just an American that does all of this.
It has to be all of us.
[...] have to proceed and be the best libraries you know how to be.
Okay, Ana Maria.
Thank you, Mr. Layser.
And the question is, you spoke about the digital library
rights, the four rights.
But these are for me the traditional library functionalities.
Why the digital library should be the right?
And so, hello, for continuing the functionalities of the library.
A right of functionalities.
Why do we need the hello for the Virginia to do the right?
Right now, at least in the United States, the publishers say that we have no
right to do what libraries do in the digital world.
We do not have the right to collect.
They won't sell us books.
They will not.
Again, I've picked on our colleague here.
But to just make it clear that what they're offering our licenses that they
can change and pull away at any time.
And this idea of having every book every so often just disappear
off the shelves here at the Vatican.
And should cause a shimmer to run down your spine.
That's exactly what's happening right now in the digital
bundles that are going on.
The things are being changed and deleted.
So, it's, yeah, it seems obvious to me.
It's how you've just generally proceeded.
A library support a long tail of authors.
But it won't happen for very long.
If we basically take if they take our rights away and make our institutions so
useless that our funding will go down.
And then it will be a Netflix of books that is just the best
sellers available to end users.
It will just be Spotify.
And that's the only access there will be to books or journals or music.
And this is not a future that libraries are here to support.
Libraries are here for the long tail for the researchers for the obscure the
disadvantaged.
That's what we're here for.
Let's do our jobs.
Thank you.
So, I'm not only limited to legal deposit or copyright or licenses.
It's very much more comprehensive for the survivor, the continuing
internationalities or the libraries.
Legal deposit is a good idea.
In the United States it's under threat.
I can tell you tales about what's going on with the Copyright Office.
About how the publishing industry people, the people that are suing us, are
trying to make it so that they don't even have to deposit materials
into the Library of Congress.
Or if they do it has to be so circumscribed as to sort of an access in a room
that you're not allowed to bring your cell phone into.
It's fine stuff.
It's just these are publications.
Publications have public in the name of it.
And copyright is a trade off where the government goes and defends people,
publishers, who are supposed to be authors, but it isn't.
Publishers out there on the neck.
It's a part of a trade where it's making things public.
And that's completely under threat in the United States.
And I would suggest for me, if you just look at universities, they don't have the
journal collections anymore.
So as this way about AI came along, it's not like very many of them could make
content available to their computer science to do new research based on
because they don't have a copy.
It's all locked up in a database that is owned and spun by publishers.
So that there isn't an ability to be independent with these in new and different
ways that are within the law.
So we've got a problem that we don't have the national collections.
We don't have the university collections.
We don't have the public libraries.
We don't have the personal collections.
I don't mean to be a downer.
I think that we have funding still as libraries.
So let's use our money.
Let's buy things.
It's coming.
Thank you.
I'm talking to maybe the next generation of librarian.
I want to ask something that I notice that happened a lot.
There is a kind of jealousy of the staff in the
library, in the museum.
And most of the time, most of the staff is hidden also to the librarian.
How can you give the right to publish
stuff and not so classically jealous of it?
[...] taking a picture of the library to the right to
the copyrights.
And I'm not a lot of trouble in the library because they relate on
most of the time of money.
There are money to publish stuff, to digitalize.
And when I notice your project, I'm very interested in projects.
But most of the time when I'm talking to the museum library, they try to hide
what they have in the museum.
How can we not do and happen this stuff?
How can a library cannot be jealous and want to spread the culture?
I'm not sure I quite understand.
The librarians are jealous or the students are jealous of what they have.
I noticed that a lot of museum staff and librarians are
jealous of what they have.
Most of the time they don't know what they have in their own
boat, like paintings, documents.
And maybe after years and years, a lot of paper came out from out of nowhere.
And they didn't even know that maybe this journal paper, paintings, was there.
And most of the time I noticed this kind of jealousy behind publish maybe
what they have in their boat.
I think we've gone through 20 years of reeducation where libraries were
often prized for how private they were.
But in the internet now it's how much you can share and how you
can go and make things available.
And you're measured by how available things are.
So I think we need to prize people that share and prize organizations that take
the risks of making things available.
I have a dream project to try to reconstruct the
Library of Hernando Gluomo.
And he tried to collect all the books of all the peoples of the world in 1520.
It's kind of amazing. I think some of them may be here.
Can we go and make it so that the catalog was just discovered in Copenhagen?
And it's being keyed in. Can we go and have all the libraries come together and
go and say, well, you don't have the exact copy that we had, but I
have another copy of that book.
Can we do this as a big group project? That would be the sharing of ethos
that I think actually is in all of our librarians.
We want to preserve and we want to provide access. Let's figure out a way to do
both of those things.
Digitization makes the preservation of the physical materials easier because
people can access these in new and different ways.
Yes, that's what I noticed also. The myth is that I'm from the new generation.
[...] myth is that we want to share. And it's funny because the
Library had to spread culture, but sometimes try to preserve too much
and try to hide and preserve stuff.
And maybe you, as a new generation, want to spread culture because I'm not in
Italy, but I can access to a library in the States.
And if a library wants to do this, I cannot do that.
It's so important. And especially now we have a generation
brought up looking at screens.
And what it is they see shifts, whether it's social media, it goes away,
or television isn't captured often.
But it's so important to go and make it so that people can go and
capture, re-look at these materials.
So I think we libraries have to think more broadly than just our books
and just our old books.
We have to think about the new publications that are coming from everywhere and
moving very forward about archiving, social media, television, radio,
and making it available to the general public.
Maybe in just snippet forms, our television collection is only available 30
seconds in a clip, but it is used by journalists all the time to try to help
figure out the difference between Fox News and CNN.
So this type of analysis is only possible in libraries that have collections.
So I suggest our job is expanding beyond just the tradition
of books and periodicals.
And I think it will feed much better into the world that the younger generation
is living and being mystified by and being fooled and coerced by very key
participants in the world wide web that are spreading lies.
And we need to arm our children with the best tools we know to go and give them
access to things that they can start to figure out what
is true and what is not true.
And I want to see libraries really spring into action in a time when we have an
authoritarian way of going through the whole world.
And it's often precipitated by false information not being
countered by the good information that's in our libraries.
Do we have other questions?
One in the back.
[...]
Thank you. Thank you. My question is, you've linked the library and the
librarian plays a very important role in the digital preservation.
Is it libraries for librarians?
Library and librarian play a very important role in preservation and
digital preservation, right?
Absolutely essential.
Yes. So my question is, do you think the library and the librarian has
played a...