organizations earlier in the year, same numbers in the same states. now we don't like i said, she's now going to have the mantle of being the nominee, and that may bring her up a little bit, certainly in the national polls, which are very confusing because those are big blue states like california and new york. it's the battleground state polling that matters in this case. and right now she's down in it. trump just has to keep appealing to those independent voters. all right, matt and ari both of you, great to have you both on tonight. thanks so much. well this has been about the wildest eight days in american politics. we'll go back to the debate, you know, a month or so, and we're going to keep covering every aspect of it, every angle. and i want you to stay with fox news all night long for the breaking coverage. this story is going to take a lot of twists and turns before things are resolved, and i can't wait for this election. jesse's next. fox news alert president joe biden's

announcing he's dropping out of the race. god must have spoken because he said the only thing that was going to make him bow out was the great almighty. how did joe biden tell the world he wasn't running for reelection? he wrote us a letter. he said, i believe it is in the best interest of my party and the country for me to stand down and to focus solely on fulfilling my duties as president for the remainder of my term. the guy who got more votes than anybody in american history is leaving after one term. why is it in the best interest of your country for you to leave? joe well, we know the answer, but why don't you tell us? is it because the last four years have been a disaster? is it because you're mentally unfit? or is it because you were pushed out in a bloodless coup? i want to hear him say it. because if later in the week, he says i'm not running because i can't win, that's not how we do things. democrats don't get to push candidates through the

primary. millions of americans vote for them. and if it doesn't look like they can win, rich guys at the convention pick somebody else. that's not what we do in the united states. the entire biden presidency was a cover up that got exposed on debate night, and now they want to pick another puppet. that's why we have primaries. they should have all been hashed out in a primary, but they rigged it so no one could expose joe. and then they kicked rfk jr out of the democratic party. so he couldn't wind up with the second most delegates. but this isn't close to over. biden endorsed kamala harris on his way out. then hillary endorsed kamala harris, obviously, because she's a woman. but barack didn't. here he is. quote, we will be navigating uncharted waters in the days ahead. but i have extraordinary confidence that the leaders of our party will be able to create a process from which an

outstanding nominee emerges. who do you think's going to run that process? the conventions in chicago, kamala might have a big head start on the nomination, but she's not a sure thing. here's how this convention is supposed to work. now, all of biden's delegates are now uncommitted. this nomination is wide open, and it has to be resolved by mid-august. prime time interviewed president trump and his vp nominee, jd vance, this weekend. and this is what they told us about an open convention. you don't even know who you're running against. no, you could be debating, kamala. you could be debating kamala, what's going on? no idea. so we are the most unified party. i think that's ever existed. we had 100% of the delegates there with us. and you saw the spirit. there was never a convention like this. and it's so fresh in everyone's mind. it

was just a beautiful event. it was everything about it was beautiful, the camaraderie. but the unity. there's never been anything like it. 100% of the people are for us and they're for the party. they're for everybody. they're for the senators. they're for the congressmen and women that are running. it was a beautiful thing to watch. there was no dissension. there were no fights on the floor. i mean, some of these conventions are vicious. you go there might be a vicious convention in chicago. it could be, it could be. so they're going to cook up something at the convention. they might throw gretchen whitmer at you. they might throw gavin newsom at you. they might throw michelle obama at you. yeah i wouldn't be worried about any of them. look, they have bad policies. forget about the people. they have an open border policy. they have a high tax policy. they have a bad military policy. the whole world is going woke. their world is going woke. the green new scam was spending all our money on things that don't work. the whole thing is a mes. we'll have more of that interview this hour and tomorrow night. the democrats aren't changing policies.

they're just putting a new face on them. kamala is even more radical and incompetent than old joe biden. she's even more unpopular than the most unpopular president in american history. and polls show trump beats her just as easily as he beats biden. trump's now running against harris. biden because joe stays in the white house. harris is still on the ticket and it's still the same bad record. is joe going to speak at the convention? does kamala even want joe to speak at the convention? are we even going to see joe over the next six months? this is the lamest duck president ever. kamala doesn't have dementia. that's what this is. and nobody was in on the cover up more than she was. she spent more time with joe than anybody. she just wasn't brave enough to blow the whistle. she's been lying to us for four years about the president's condition. if there ever is a problem. yeah. do you think that you could go tell

the american public, do you think in your role that you're that you're in a position to do that? of course, if necessary. but there's no need for that. the entire biden presidency has been a lie. every voter, republican and democrat, has been disrespected. it's fitting that the biden presidency is ending in disgrace. covid swept them in. covid swept them out, writing resignation letters from your bed with a proverbial gun to your head is the most undignified farewell we've ever seen in washington, and we've seen a lot. what was biden's golden parachute? does he get to keep the biden presidential library, or is legal fees squared away? will he get a book advance for a book he'll never write? did joe step down in exchange for hunter getting no prison? or did they dangle the 25th amendment over his head? democrats may look conniving and powerful today, but they're not impeaching trump, prosecuting him,

stealing his money with fines, putting his life in danger. and now stealing 14 million democrat primary votes. this is desperate. this is a party falling apart, clinging to power by any means necessary. what are they hiding? what are they so terrified of? trump seeing when he gets back in office? prepare for chaos. joe manchin is telling fox news he's reregistering as a democrat and considering running against kamala. or if k junior polling in double digits in some battlegrounds, his name is still on the ballot, and any move against kamala harris is going to trigger an identity politics bloodbath. the congressional black caucus already endorsing harris just moments ago. but if it is harris, the trump harris debate, we could have two. trump's defeated a woman before. history does have a way of repeating itself. but like the messiah said himself, we're

in uncharted waters. let's bring in silicon valley angel investor. we call him j, cal, j, cal. you predicted this not exactly the way it was supposed to go down, but what happened at 1:45 p.m. on sunday when joe sent this letter out? well it was quite obvious for the past year we had dean phillips on the all in podcast and he said, listen, joe biden is in cognitive decline. it's obvious to everybody. and so we live through a charade for a year, maybe more, depending on when you started to notice it. maybe you have parents who've gone through cognitive decline, and this is just elder abuse and a massive coverup by the democratic party. and they didn't run a proper, process. and now they're going to try to do a speed run primary. it's going to be exciting. i think at the end of the day, joe manchin and pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, are going to emerge as two moderates designed to have

adults in the room with moderate beliefs who are operationally very good at things like law and order, working class, maybe some credibility on the economy, balancing the budget. they'll feel like clinton moderates. and so i know it's been just an incredibly eventful week. thank god, trump, survived the assassination attempt. and, you know, an inspired choice with jd vance. but this is not the time for the gop, to become, in any way. you know, to rest on their laurels because now the democrats taking this for granted, because they've shown they've shown what they're capable of. j. cal, you're right. absolutely. and they're capable of one thing. we've seen what they've done in primaries before. we've seen them what they've done in generals before, what do you think the game is? do you think just put a put a more moderate face on. kamala, celebrate the first female black female. is that what we're going to see? is it going to be about race

and gender now, with a bunch of, you know, cover ups over the radicalism? yeah, i think what they're going to learn is that the die candidate concept is just not going to work. so if they want to win and listen, the number one job of a politician is to win. they will go directly to the center. you got to remember they have a huge advantage the democrats right now because they know who they're up against. and so they get to custom pick people who play in arizona. you know, michigan, nevada, pennsylvania, the swing states, wisconsin. and i think moderates, you know, have the best chance of beating donald trump and jd vance and do not take anything for granted. and i think kamala has no chance of being the next president of the united states. and i think you're going to see obama come out. you're going to see all the all stars come out. clinton they're going to make it super exciting, and they're going to take, frankly, a lot of notes, from what trump did to the republican party. he is a savant when it comes to

media, and he knows how to build the biggest tent possible. what have the democrats done for the last eight years? they have kicked everybody out of the party. elon musk, joe rogan, the list of people who are democrats and who voted for hillary is very long. and all those people got kicked out of the party because they didn't pass the purity test. well, guess what? i think obama and clinton are coming back and they're saying we're moderates and they're going to, you know, recast the democratic party. now, do they have enough time in 109 days to do that? we're going to find out. it's going to be incredibly exciting, and that's going to be tough to do. and do you think that they'll be able to survive if they do? kneecap harris and put a moderate in her place? on the top of the ticket is the party demographically going to be able to stomach that? yeah, i think so. i think the age of the elites is over. i think trump killed it. if you look at what trump did at that rnc, that master class, you know, having, amber rose, i believe is her name, you know, come in there and have somebody who is a just a massive feminist and maybe not not familiar with

her. j. cal never heard of her before. could you enlighten me on her? she's exactly proving my point. jesse, is that. and this is the brilliance of the republican party. you know, you have taken a party that seemed like. okay, you know, it's the south, it's conservative, it's old people. and you know what? everybody's allowed in. and that's the lesson. the democrats have to take from this. will they take it? we'll we'll find out. i you know, there would be very wise for them to take the greatest lesson of all, which is to have an outsider like trump, somebody who's never been in office and run them. but i don't think they have the time or the vision. i don't think the democrats are capable. yeah, the democrats aren't capable of outsiders. that outsiders in the democratic machine do not mix. j cal, you got to take it over like obama did. you got to come in, sail from hawaii, take it over. and that's the way to run it. and i don't think there's anybody capable of doing that. you predicted it. so right now you're one for one. let's see if you can go two for two j cal all in podcast. we'll follow him. so the democrats have called themselves the party of

democracy, but they ran the least democratic primary ever. they skipped iowa. new hampshire jumped straight to south carolina. they killed all primary debates, booted rfk jr from the party because he posed a threat to joe. today, rfk jr held a press conference to tell democrats, i told you so a year ago, a little over a year ago, when i entered this race, i predicted that president biden suffered from a degenerative condition that was not going to improve and that it would make it impossible for him to govern effectively. the reaction of the dnc to that obvious condition was to hide it from the american public, and to use their power over the democratic party nomination process to make sure that nobody could compete with president biden in

a way that would expose his deficiencies. and as a result, we are where we are today, which is in a period of crisis. presidential candidate rfk jr joins us now. so rfk, you ran the right way. you did what you were supposed to do. you were a democrat. you primaried a democrat incumbent and they wouldn't let you. how did they jam you out of this thing? because now look at what happened. yeah, i think it was a strategic mistake by the democrats. jesse and you and i have talked about this before, but they got rid of they changed the primary rules while we, you know, while we were running the primary, they changed 60 different rules to make it impossible for anybody to challenge joe biden. one of the things that you remember that they did to me is i'd been

campaigning in new hampshire, so they adopted a rule that said that any political candidate, any democratic candidate who campaigns in new hampshire, who steps foot into the state of new hampshire and all of their votes would go to the president, all of their delegates would go to the president instead of going to that. and then they shut down the florida primary. they shut down a bunch of primaries. they just said, we're not running them. we already have our candidate, you know, a few weeks ago, president biden was ridiculing vladimir putin, who won 88% of the vote in russia. and he said, you know, that that was a fixed election because president putin had gotten rid, made sure no adversaries could challenge him, and also that he had fixed the press. so the press wouldn't cover his adversaries. well, the democratic party succeeded in doing the same thing. i haven't been allowed on any of the democratic networks abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, as you know. you know, fox has

been has allowed me on although fox people like you have allowed me to speak. you debate me, you give me a platform even though you don't agree with things that i say. and i think that's the way the media is supposed to work. but the media monopoly forgotten playing when you're playing, when you're playing with children, you just change the rules in the middle of the game and just kind of make it up as you go along. you can't do that when it comes to these high stakes. you know how things operate at conventions. there's been a long history of chicanery at these things. you've now have uncommitted delegates. are we going to see bribery? are we going to see quid pro quo? are we going to see ambassadorships promised donors greased. you're basically this is a sprint to grease as many delegates by mid-august as possible. yeah, i think, you know, some of that is bound to happen, i think

most of those delegates are kind of mom and pop people. they're committed to by. they committed originally to biden and his releasing them. i think a lot of them are probably idealistic people who want to see that the democratic nominee or terrified of donald trump, who want to see the democratic nominee succeed. but i don't i don't, you know, the indicators. now, jesse, is that the party elites are not really going to let go of the process and we'll see what happens. you know, the last time, there's a lot of similarities between this election and what happened with my dad's election in 1968. there were there was a war going on at that time that was very controversial, and it was very damaging to our country, there were protestors in the street. the convention was in chicago, and my father, who was leading, got knocked out by an assassin's bullet, not by a resignation. are you, in

effect, had an open convention, but the dnc at that time tried to maintain control over it. they put their candidate in with hubert humphrey. there was the convention became riotous and the riots shocked the american public. and they didn't want anything to do with the democratic party after tha. and i think a lot of people in the democratic party probably should look back to what happened in 1968 and, and take some caution from allowing the party elites to continue to, to, to exercise control over their choices. that that would be good. sage advice from rfk jr. and we will be jesse watters. primetime in chicago covering the dnc. and now it just got a whole lot more interesting. rfk jr good luck. thanks for having me, jesse. with biden out of the race, the trump team shifting its sights to kamala, releasing a major ad

campaign in battleground states, reminding voters about her record. watch kamala knew joe couldn't do the job, so she did it. look what she got done. a border invasion runaway inflation, the american dream dead. they created this mess. they know kamala owns this failed record. trump senior adviser jason miller joins us. jason, how does this change things? now well, in a lot of ways it doesn't change things very much at all. the fact of the matter is, is that kamala harris is going to own everything from the harris biden administration over the past three and a half years. and whether it be the record setting illegal immigration, whether it be the sky high inflation, the chaos all across the globe, she has to own all of that. plus jesse. and here's the thing, kamala harris has to own her radical liberal record from even before her time in the white house. back in the california days. whether it be trying to decriminalize illegal immigration, whether it be trying to abolish ice, kamala harris even wants to get rid of

straws, for example. but want to go to a really important point here, though, is you're talking earlier about what is the message that this sends, what joe biden has done here is just simply send the message. if you're losing at half time, just quit. just quit because that is what he is telling the younger generation of americans. first of all, i don't think that's something that joey from scranton was taught back in the day to just quit, but especially the fact that a month ago, democrats were decrying the use of these so-called cheap fake videos. and then president trump knocked out joe biden on that debate stage. and joe biden less than a month later, has quit. yeah, it's a it's a huge shock to the biden family. i'm sure they thought they could hold on. and it just got too tough. i had the privilege of interviewing the former president and his vp nominee, jd vance. here's what they said about kamala and joe. listen and now biden's hating kamala because she's out there now campaigning for herself. she's

out there trying to get him to quit so she can run for president. and she's not a competent person. she shouldn't be president. i mean, she's being laughed at all over the world. so this is now laughin, laughin. apostrophe. how could i forget the apostrophe? jason. it is also interesting to hear some other names. we had a guest just say it might not be kamala. it could be some moderate from the midwest. does that pose more of a threat? no, not at all. we've done the research, we've done the polling. we have the ads cut. president trump is going to defeat whoever the democrats go and put up. and i want to go back to something that you played the president trump said a moment ago from the clip that you played, a moment ago. that's the fact that we're being laughed at all across the world. if joe biden isn't competent enough to run for president, how can he be competent enough to be president? now, kamala harris needs to answer this question for sure. but when you look at putin, xi, the ayatollah, you look at any of our adversaries

around the world, they see gross incompetence in the white house. i don't see how joe biden can remain. do you think she should string him up with a 25th? because that's the only way to get him to go. he's not going to resign. he's already suffered incredible humiliatio. but like you said, i mean, is this country now at risk because joe biden's just languishing as a lame duck for six months? well, we're very much at risk. and that's what our foreign adversaries are going to be up to, even additional mischief, because they know that nobody is in charge. there hasn't been anybody in charge for quite some time in kamala harris and doctor kevin o'connor and all the democrats and many members of the mainstream media have been a part of this ultimate cover up. but now there's no more cover up. now everybody knows internationally and domestically that the lights are on, but nobody's home. jesse, this is a real concern for our safety and our well-being. we've seen over the last few years, whether it be the record setting inflation,

whether it be the chaos at the southern border. we've seen our american citizens like lincoln riley and rachel moore be brutally murdered by this gross incompetence at the white house. i worry, jesse, what else could happen? yeah, and she was supposed to warn us if joe was in decline. she promised she would. and she never did. that's going to be something that i'm sure comes up if 45 debates kamala harris. no doubt about that. jason miller, thanks as always. thank you sir. america might not be shocked that biden dropped out, but many of joe's own staffers were shocked they had no idea this announcement was coming. they've been insisting they were telling people as recently as this morning that joe was in it to win it. watch this. joe biden has said he is in this race. he is in this race to win it. he is instructing us to continue to carry out a plan to make sure that we are communicating at as many voters as possible. absolutely. the president's in this race. you've heard him say that time and time again. joe biden is

more committed than ever to beat donald trump. i want to be crystal clear. he's made a decision. and that decision is to accept the nomination and run for reelection, win reelection. and i think that there are those out there that need to hear it again, that he made a decision. he's going to be the candidate. what else? correspondent peter doocy is here with the latest. wow, that changed quickly, peter. well, the staff wasn't totally blindsided. jesse. they had a one minute heads up. we are told that president biden convened a group of senior staff from the white house and the campaign, and they were told at 145 that he was changing his mind, going to drop out. the public announcement when we all found out was 1:46 p.m. and just in the last few minutes, we were told that president biden has no public events on his schedule for tomorrow. and then the rest of the week is just

blank. they are trying to figure out what exactly to do with him, but it seems like the plan with announcing this is put it out the way that they did. paper statement don't actually see or hear from the president and then figure out a time midweek to have him come back here. or maybe they're going to do something in wilmington, delaware. i and explain his rationale. but this is so different than even what he said on friday. he said he was going to be out on the campaign trail this week. his campaign manager did a 20 minute interview, and she was talking about how they didn't think that even after three tough weeks for president biden, that a lot of his supporters were flipping and going to trump. so they still saw pathways to victory. but at some point last night, president biden remember the three things that he said would get him out of the race, a medical issue, which we don't believe that he is having a medical issue beyond covid at the moment at least, nothing diagnosed. if you heard from

the almighty and maybe he did, he can explain that later on. but or if somebody presented him with polling that showed he had a 0% chance to beat donald trump and a lot of the a lot of the national polling has been pretty stable. but the battleground state polling has been terrible for him. and states like virginia, like new mexico, appear to be more competitive than democrats think they should be. and when that happens, you don't just risk losing in november, you wind up having to spend so much money to defend those states, and they would rather just focus on their pathway, which is pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. or, you look at the sunbelt states where they think that they have a path with arizona, nevada, north carolina and new hampshire. everything changes now that it's harris, harris for president. is the fec filing name, but, but we'll see the president at some point

in the next couple of days at some point, at some point, we think maybe we're going to just take this day to day. peter, thank you. so much. let's bring in anchor of special report, bret baier. so, bret, what do you do with jesse? president biden what do you do with him? he's now completely compromised. he's humiliated. is he going to come out and say, yeah, i saw some bad polls. that's why i'm not running. i agree with you. this is a disconcerting moment. the fact that we got a paper statement today, no, not even a photograph from the white house about the president. no videotaped message? nothing. if you go back to 1968, the last time a sitting president did not run for reelection, lbj, he delivered a 4000 word nationally televised address to say why he was not going to run

for reelection and to say that i'm going to be in charge here until the end. that's not what happened today. and there will be calls, including from house speaker johnson, that if he's stepping out of the race for a reason, which is they believe mental competency, then that raises new kinds of questions about who's running the country and whether he should be in office for five months. does joe have to say i've lost a step? he owes us as americans to say, why he's stepping down. he just yesterday he said he could beat donald trump and no one else could. i mean, nothing changed that dramatically besides polling. so you can't do this because of polling. bret baier and when are we going to get the truth? kamala harris has been telling us for four years. this guy's sharp as a tack. listen to her. i think that age is more than a chronological fact. to be very frank with you, he is an

extraordinary leader, and i wish that people could see what i see because there's only one person who sits behind that resolute desk. joe biden is going to be fine. and let me tell you something. i work with joe biden every day. we will win the election. you will win. we will win reelection. i've been in the oval office, where heads of various countries allies have called literally to ask joe biden for his advice. i spent a lot of time with joe biden, be it in the oval office or the situation room, and i can tell you, this is someone who is tireless in terms of working on behalf of the american people, 81 million votes, bret. they compared him to fdr. they said he was going to wipe the floor with trump, and then all of a sudden he disappears and we get a letter, right? i listen, there is a big disconnect here. and all of the folks who are saying all those

stories behind closed doors, how they're how he's running circles around them, how he has so much energy, you know, the disconnect between that and the debate performance, which, by the way, was just about three and a half weeks ago. and then the effort after on clean up on aisle four, the various interviews that he tried to do after that, which also didn't succeed, there there's explaining to do the other thing to note is that if it is vice president harris who's the democratic nominee, it'll be the first time that a nominee of a major party has never won one single primary or caucus ever. and that would be something completely out of the ordinary. it's the most undemocratic thing we've seen in a race that was supposed to be about saving democracy. we'll see what happens next. bret baier we'll see you tomorrow at 6:00. all right. see you, jesse. more from my exclusive interview with president trump and jd vance. straight ahead. known as a

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constitutional process. the 25th amendment. if joe biden can't run for president, he can't serve as president. and if they want to take him down because he's mentally incapable of serving, invoke the 25th amendment. you don't get to sort of do this in the most politically beneficial way for democrats. if it's an actual problem, they should take care of it in the appropriate way. here now, martha maccallum and trey gowdy. martha, do you think they'd do that? i feel like he's been through enough, but it is the right thing to do. saw the schedule for this week. it looks like there's no events on it. i think you're going to see such a hard pivot to the vice president, kamala harris. i think that it's going to be done that way in all but 25th amendment names. so i think that they'll see that it behooves her to take the lead. i think you're going to see a very aggressive travel schedule for her. i guarantee she's going to be back in

pennsylvania, where she's been a lot. she's going to be in georgia, she's going to be in nevada, arizona. those are the places where they feel like they can gain traction with her. and i think you're going to see a very quiet president biden. i thought it was so strange today, jesse, this statement that came out with no picture attached, nothing, nothing attached to it. and then i thought it was also so interesting that in the statement, he did, he just said she did a great job as vice president. then a minute later comes the endorsement. and i really think that that kind of communications is because he wants to separate that statement, which will someday go in his presidential library. he wanted to keep it separate from his endorsement of kamala harris, waiting to see how it all goes. if it was a video, trey would have been a hostage video. he doesn't want to go out and talk to us about this. he didn't want to write the letter. he may have not even written the letter. he may have just signed it. we don't even know what's going on behind the scenes. i think what happened is, you know, he said he would

drop out if he heard the voice of god almighty. i think it was morgan freeman that called and tricked him into thinking that it was god. and when he finds out, he may change his mind tomorrow. here's, you know, the 25th amendment. republicans better be careful what they ask for. would you rather run against incumbent kamala harris or the kamala harris that got the exact same number of delegates that the three of us got when she ran for president? it's just the three of us didn't run. martha, right now he has nothing on his schedule. is kamala harris just going to campaign? and joe just stays inside? is kamala going to come back and be the president? i mean, i mean, who is the president right now, you know? well i mean, it's a really good question. we have to see the president. we have to hear from him. we have to know that he's okay. he has covid. there was reporting today that he was very angry that he was hacking.

and coughing in delaware and very angry. so first question is how is he you know, is he okay. is the president okay? jacqui? heinrich asked steve ricchetti, one of his right hand men who was right in the center of all of this decision making, and he said, he's fine, but i think we need more proof than that, jesse. and i think that, you know, he said he wanted to be a bridge to the future. right. but none of this is playing out the way that joe biden wanted it to. so i think that you're going to see a very the lamest duck ever, right? i mean, this is going to be hard pivotmala, and it's going to happen immediately, it was a bridge collapse, trey. he was not able to effectively hand this torch off this was with a proverbial gun to his head. he didn't want to do it. he was forced into it. and now kamala is wounded because of it, because she was a part of a ticket that was an absolute policy disaster. and she's been a laughing stock. yeah. if they think a cognitively decline,

joe biden is, is a drag on the ticket, wait till they hear a lucid kamala harris. you got the border. you got the fact that she single handedly killed criminal justice reform. so you talk about african american voters, particularly men. the reason you don't have criminal justice reform is because of kamala harris. and if you care at all about the middle east, she is the least pro-israel democrat that i know. so i'm not sure that a joe and declined would not be less of a dry bag than a lucid kamala harris. yeah, it looks like the trump campaign, if there was one person they'd rather run against besides biden, it's probably her. and they they may have gotten their wish, but who knows what types of shenanigans they pull out of chicago. it's still an open convention. martha. trey. thank you. yes, sir. thanks, jesse. while some on the left are excited that biden's finally bowing out of the race, others not taking the

news so well. people are heartbroken. even people who are pushing for this to happen. it's kind of like like when you're when your grandpa, you got to take the keys and everybody, you got to take these keys, you got to take his keys. you got to. and he's fighting and he's fighting and everybody's so frustrated. and then you finally get the keys back, and then you just cry because this is somebody that you love. this is somebody that you care about. this is somebody who was there for you. this is somebody you wouldn't be here without him and you had to take something from him. joe biden is grounded. he's grounded in his faith and his family and in our state. excuse me. i'm sorry, this was a very difficult decision. former democratic presidential candidate tulsi gabbard is here. tulsi, i don't think is faking it. he's been a biden lover since the jump. van jones has been pushing biden out harder than anybody. those are crocodile tears. that guy's the best actor on cnn. you know,

the fact that they're touting, president joe biden making this decision as doing what's best for the country, you know, it's just hypocrisy, given how many of them, as you mentioned, have been saying for days that he should step down as the democratic nominee. i think i think the thing here to focus on, jesse, is all of these different, calls and questions come up about what happens nex, whether joe biden is, you know, actually resigns or he doesn't. we just got to remember nothing's going to change if kamala harris is the nominee or some other democrat is the nominee, nothing else is going to change. joe biden has been the figurehead for people behind the scenes who have been calling the shots. the same will happen if kamala harris is elected president and or other democrats. the fact is, we've got unelected power elite in washington coming from the military industrial complex, national security, state working with their friends in

the big industrial propaganda media. they all just want to stay in power so they don't really actually care at all about joe biden. no how, no matter how many crocodile tears they shed, they're going to look for the best horse that they think will help them win and back that person. kamala is probably easier to manipulate than joe biden. at least joe biden knew who was who in washington. kamala's spring chicken. she's brand new in this scene. she doesn't know anybody. she doesn't know where it's coming from. you certainly did, though. remember on that debate you tangled with kamala? let's watch this. senator harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president. but i'm deeply concerned about this record. there are too many examples to cite. but she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations. and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana, she blocked evidence. she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row

until the courts forced her to do so. she kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of california, and she fought to keep cash bail system in place. that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way. so kamala's record is going to be front and center. i don't know if she knows what's coming. you know, the first thing that i think of when it comes to kamala harris once again trying to stand on her record, is our border. she was appointed the border czar, and it's almost like she felt as long as she said on television, hey, the border is secure, that somehow it would magically be secure. that wasn't the case. we've had an unprecedented number of people crossing our borders illegally as the biden-harris administration's open border policy essentially, aided and abetted these cartels in their multibillion dollar human trafficking industry, making our country far less

safe. the list goes on. and on about kamala harris's failures, even as vice president over these last three and a half years, both here at home and her failed attempts at foreign policy that have made our country less safe and pushed us closer to the brink of war. so if she is the democrats nominee, she's got a lot to be held to account for. and the reason joe biden was able to even win was because he was supposed to be moderate, and there's no moderate with her. none. california socialist. she's a radical. it's not going to play in the rest of the country. that is very clear. thank you so much, tulsi gabbard. have a great sunday night. thank you. jesse what's obama up to right now? for people with diabetic nerve pain of the feet, it's time for

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fox news alert we're getting a little insight into who kamala might pick as her running mate if she gets the nomination. reports say kamala has her eye on four democrats kentucky governor andy beshear, north carolina governor roy cooper, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro and arizona senator mark kelly, an astronaut we know harris likes space. monica crowley is a former assistant treasury secretary for public affairs. i mean, this is just like lambs to the slaughter, and they're looking at biden. tell me how you see it. they're looking at biden. landslide. kamala and one of these white midwestern guys, maybe a little less of a landslide. monica well, assuming jesse, that it ends up being kamala harris is the nominee. and i know a lot of big democrats are endorsing endorsing her. but the one voice that's been silent on

kamala is barack obama. and his wife, michelle obama. they've been very quiet. so i think maybe michelle obama, obama still may be in the mix. that being said, if in fact they go, wait a second, is michelle obama? michelle obama's in the mix? is she in the mix in chicago, in her home town? well, there is a reason why the democrats moved their convention to chicago, jesse, so they could recruit her. they can position her as the reluctant candidate. she's a woman of color. so that squares the kamala harris circle. being a minority and a di hire. so michelle obama dismisses all of that. look, i don't know how likely that is, but i don't want everybody sort of falling into this trap that kamala harris is the de facto candidate for the democrats. this story is not over yet. jesse realized that the left's power brokers never move without a plan. so while

everybody is distracted with this chaos circus, there are powers that be, namely barack and michelle obama and the entire obama machine that's essentially run this country over the last three and a half years that wants an obama four and 5.0. and what better way to do that to run michelle, where they can position her as somebody who didn't really want to do it, but she was recruite. she's a pristine candidate. she's immune to criticism as a woman of color. and if they run her, they could raise about $1 billion in two, three days. so i just want everybody to be aware that there are other possibilities out there. well, jesse, i will say this, it seems unthinkable, but over the last, what, nine years, there have been a lot of unthinkable things happening here in america. you are right about that, monica. i'm not ruling anything out. we're not. we're not done with our surprises. thank you so much. you bet. here now, presidential

historian douglas brinkley. so we're in uncharted waters. i don't know how joe biden just goes to work on monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday and acts like he's still president. i think, jesse, he's going to have to write a major speech. he'll do an address. remember when lyndon johnson, dropped out in march of 1968 on tv for 30 minutes, probably trying to write a speech that will frame his, post-presidential legacy, among other things. i do think he has to really put shoulder to the wheel for kamala harris, she has tried to be the dutiful vice president, meaning trying to not make headlines, laying low. and now she is inheriting the entire democratic party. according to joe biden. and as you just said, if it doesn't track quickly by august 1st,

they'll you'll see all sorts of democrats thinking maybe if it's an open convention in chicago, i got a crack at it. but, biden has got to decide if part of his legacy is i pick kamala harris and really almost a manager and cheerleader for her in the next ten days to help her gain momentum. so how will history judge joe biden? well, first off, you're talking about barack obama was a minute ago. he was a two term president. and now we see joe biden as a one term president, that's usually hurts presidents when they only do a single term. hence why donald trump's trying to come back again, but george herbert walker bush was a one termer, and his reputation, history gone up. jimmy carter, who got, a shellacking from ronald reagan in 1980 due to his post-presidential work and the look at camp david accords and other things from a distance,

has helped carter rise a little bit, meaning, at least in public estimation, and so but i don't think that it's time for biden to try to marketeer his presidency. i think it's time for him if he's kamala harris, to let all the delegates know you like me, back her. if he doesn't do that, it's going to be a different scenario in about ten days. all right. sure will be. douglas brinkley, thank you so much for your expertise. thank you. now let's bring in fox news senior political analyst brit hume. so brit, does joe biden go to the convention in chicago and give a roaring defense of his presidency and a full throated endorsement of kamala harris? and does kamala want that? i don't know the answer to that, jesse, but i want to clear something up about the lbj speech in 1968, withdrawing from the race. it has been

mentioned by several people, including douglas brinkley, that he had this very long speech about it. in fact, he did not. he had a very long speech. the reason i know this is i was working the night desk at upi in connecticut that night, and the whole text of the speech had moved on the wire, and i had it in front of him. and was listening on the radio, and he read through the whole thing, and it gave no hint that he was about to withdraw from the race. and at the end of the prepared text, the speech ended. i thought it was all over with. and there was a pause. and then, and only then he said he would not seek nor accept his party's nomination for president. i'll never forget it. every wire machine in the room, it was ringed with him suddenly stopped. and then there was a cacophony of bells for the for the flash saying it, and then the bulletins and then the rest of the copy followed. but that speech, he didn't give us a multi-thousand word. speech about dropping out. he gave a multi-page speech, multi thousands of words, and then, surprisingly, inart that was not part of the prepared text, announced he was getting out. so there's a little historical note for you. well, that is one serious fact check

of douglas brinkley. i don't know how he's going to recover from that. you might have to send him something. i'm sure he'll take it. well britt, you know, i don't know what happened this weekend in in delaware. i don't think anybody will honestly ever figure it out. what do you think changed so quickly? well, jesse, when you're under the kind of pressure that he was under and the evidence is mounting and the number of people calling for you to get out is growing by the day, even it wasn't yet an avalanche, but it was a lot. and you have to think that joe biden was hesitant to do this. the polling data was increasingly bleak, and there's at some point in your own mind, it reaches critical mass, you know, we all know we've all made decisions in our lives that we didn't want to make. and when we make them, you know, it's like bankruptcy. you know what they say about bankruptcy. it happens slowly. then suddenly, i think in biden's case, it happened slowly, that it was the

pressure on him to do it. and the evidence that he should do it was mounting. and finally the dam broke and he made the decision that i can't prove that i don't have any special knowledge of that, but i don't think we should be surprised that it happened all of a sudden and kind of a greek tragedy, seeing that barack obama was maneuvering behind the scenes. i asked donald trump and jd vance about that. here's a listen. barack obama still plotting against you, trying to take you out, they got some big problems over there. first of all, obama hates biden and biden hates obama. and when obama walked biden out a couple of weeks ago off the stage, he didn't have to do that. he could have let him wave to the people a little bit longer. i don't know if joe knew who he was waving to, but he was waving and all of a sudden obama comes along, grabs him. come on, joe, like he was a child. it made him look so bad. and i know people with

biden. i know people with obama, and they were not happy about that. it made him look really bad, like a child, like a child. they don't like each other. and i think that it's pretty tough. this guy got, what, 14, 15 million votes? delegates. he had the votes. so he goes through a process. he gets him. and the whole thing has been a con look. when they kept him in the basement in the first, those people should be looked at because they lied to the american public. we're going to look back, probably brit, that debate was a big moment, but also that la fundraiser was a big moment when barack escorted him out. and even clooney said that was a big moment. well i would say this about i watched that several times and watched the whole video. and biden was standing there applauding and waving to the crowd for a while, and then he paused. he stopped, and he was kind of looking out, and he was being applauded. he was absorbing the

applause, and it wasn't at all clear to me that obama needed to do what he did. now understand this. you know, they were together in the white house for four years. obama privately once famously said, you should never underestimate the ability of joe biden to f things up. and he didn't say f, so he he they know each other very well. and i think obama was keenly aware of what condition joe biden was in and whether he needed to be let off that stage. at that particular moment, i think biden was obama was in on the joke that biden was really not a well man and had not been for some time. and i think, you know, he wanted him out and it remains to be seen if he'll endorse kamala harris, that'll be interesting. but remember this about kamala harris and her candidacy for there to be a competition, somebody has to get in, get in and run against her. and people who were thought possible candidates. gretchen whitmer, the site one gavin newsom decided another have already said they're endorsing her. so it remains to be seen if anybody will actually get in.

do you think the kamala harris at the top of the ticket poses a bigger threat to donald trump than joe biden at the top? well well, that remains to be seen. she's not been a very strong candidate. she did very badly in 2020, and she was and she and she was widely derided for the way she conducted herself in office. she hasn't been a bang up vice president with a lot of impact. she might not be a very strong candidate. the one thing she does do is she takes the age issue off the table and now and now, jesse, some republicans, i mean, some democrats are now saying, well, donald trump's too old. he's 78. okay we're going to hear a lot of that, brit. thank you. so much, as always, and thanks for watching. this sunday edition of jesse watters prime time. we will have much, much more of my interview with trump and jd vance tomorrow night on prime time at 8:00. sean hannity is next. all right, welcome to hannity. and this is