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last remaining defense is michael cohen's a liar and if you don't believe michael cohen, the whole case falls apart. don't even think about corroboration, just focus on michael cohen, and that's what they're going to do. that's why the prosecution is not going to end with michael cohen. he's a controversial witness. he has had prior felonies. he perjured himself previously to lie to protect donald trump. they want to protect michael cohen by creating this firewall, and they're doing that, but the defense is trying to breakthrough that firewall here. >> so now there's redirect, so i'm curious, yasmin, how the prosecution is trying to sort of tie a bow on this testimony of doug daus. >>. >> i think they're doing exactly what we expect them to do, asking this direct question from conroy, did you see any evidence of tampering or manipulation of data, rewhat is in evidence as people's exhibit 246, and daus said i did not, right? i think we have to also reiterate and keep in mindhere, and i believe carol talked about this at the top of the show, most time with these expert witnesses, ana, the
last remaining defense is michael cohen's a liar and if you don't believe michael cohen, the whole case falls apart. don't even think about corroboration, just focus on michael cohen, and that's what they're going to do. that's why the prosecution is not going to end with michael cohen. he's a controversial witness. he has had prior felonies. he perjured himself previously to lie to protect donald trump. they want to protect michael cohen by creating this firewall, and they're doing that, but...
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it was michael cohen, and if you're taking michael cohen more it's just another avenue. the prosecution is going to be prepared for it. they know already it's the michael cohen credibility show. >> and maybe they're trying to get out in front of this idea that this was all cohen because one of the things they've been talking about with keith davidson who's there is that he's telling them that he suspected trump would have been the one ultimately to make the payments here, to exchange the money. he called it an assumption, but he pointed to how in 2016, michael cohen had told him, quote, my guy referring to trump was on the campaign trail, that cohen couldn't make decisions in his absence, davidson saying that he figured it meant cohen didn't have the authority to actually spend the money. katie, what more does the prosecution need to get out of davidson? >> well, you have to finish the chronology. there's a reason why it began with karen mcdougal and it's going through the stormy daniels part of the chronology now. i would note that what's been entered into evidence are
it was michael cohen, and if you're taking michael cohen more it's just another avenue. the prosecution is going to be prepared for it. they know already it's the michael cohen credibility show. >> and maybe they're trying to get out in front of this idea that this was all cohen because one of the things they've been talking about with keith davidson who's there is that he's telling them that he suspected trump would have been the one ultimately to make the payments here, to exchange the...
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cohen or articles about michael cohen. michael cohen's new statement is, quote, the imposed fine is irrelevant. judge merchan's decision elucidates that this behavior will not be tolerated and no one is above the law. again, judge merchan finding donald trump violated nine of the ten alleged violations that were brought forward by the district attorney's office so far. and even suggested the potential jail time could be a potential consequence if donald trump were continue to violate the gag order placed on him. >> everyone watching at home, stay with us. everybody else, stay close, we'll keep an eye on that manhattan courthouse throughout this hour. we'll have more in just minutes, including another critical hearing set for thursday on more possible gag order violations after that judge's ruling today. >>> and when we're back in 60 seconds, the chaos at columbia. student protesters occupying a historic campus building, what they're demanding from their university leaders. >> these repulsive scare tactics mean nothing comp
cohen or articles about michael cohen. michael cohen's new statement is, quote, the imposed fine is irrelevant. judge merchan's decision elucidates that this behavior will not be tolerated and no one is above the law. again, judge merchan finding donald trump violated nine of the ten alleged violations that were brought forward by the district attorney's office so far. and even suggested the potential jail time could be a potential consequence if donald trump were continue to violate the gag...
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>> i think they're going into granular detail about michael cohen is not doing this for michael cohen. michael cohen is doing this for donald trump. so they're going through the granular detail of the signatures, of pseudonyms, of michael cohen signing on behalf of david dennison. and so this didn't happen because michael cohen was trying to do this for himself. he took out $130,000 loan on his house, transferred it on october 26th, the week or around a week before the election. this was all happening, according to the prosecution, to squash this information, which played into the whole videotape of trump talking about grabbing, you know, women by their private parts. so, this was explosive and donald trump and michael cohen and the whole white house apparatus is trying to squash this story. >> so, jeffrey, what is it that -- how does the prosecutor team deal with a witness, who they haven't brought up yet, but has already been mentioned over and over again, that has, well, credibility issues, how does the prosecution prepare for that? >> well, that's what they're doing. they are layi
>> i think they're going into granular detail about michael cohen is not doing this for michael cohen. michael cohen is doing this for donald trump. so they're going through the granular detail of the signatures, of pseudonyms, of michael cohen signing on behalf of david dennison. and so this didn't happen because michael cohen was trying to do this for himself. he took out $130,000 loan on his house, transferred it on october 26th, the week or around a week before the election. this was...
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wasn't it important for michael cohen to impress the boss. michael cohen could have been doing this just to make an impression on donald trump without donald trump's involvement or knowledge. that would have been a very effective cross, particularly given that these folks, they don't dispute that there was a nondisclosure agreement. they're very happy to admit that there was. and in fact, they want davidson to help them establish that ndas are standard operating procedure. >> that was his first question. >> just as they did with david pecker. taking a wider lens out, we are still focused on the conspiracy. there will come a point in time where the d.a.'s attention shifts to the back half and really the more important part of the case although the duller part of the case. how did donald trump and others around him then get together to cover this up through false business records that the trump organization and beyond. right now we're still all about the election and making sure donald trump won in 2016 in part through the cooperation and help
wasn't it important for michael cohen to impress the boss. michael cohen could have been doing this just to make an impression on donald trump without donald trump's involvement or knowledge. that would have been a very effective cross, particularly given that these folks, they don't dispute that there was a nondisclosure agreement. they're very happy to admit that there was. and in fact, they want davidson to help them establish that ndas are standard operating procedure. >> that was his...
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corroborating michael cohen. you can believe michael cohen when he says that he took $130,000 line of credit and he created this llc and then he wired it to mr. davidson. why? because mr. pharaoh explained how and mr. davidson explained how. miss daniels explained how. it's very important to put all of these people to corroborate michael cohen. outline the conspiracy to promote donald trump's election by unlawful means which is what the prosecution theory is for that additional crime that would elevate the falsifying business records to a felony. he is very important. he negotiated with michael cohen. >> vaughn, going from what catherine mentioned, has there been any sightings of stormy daniels today outside of the courthouse? >> reporter: no, not at this point in time. we have received no word about stormy daniels being seen. she's been public about her documentary that was released on peacock just about a month ago here ahead of this trial. outside of that, she has had social media posts, but we have not seen h
corroborating michael cohen. you can believe michael cohen when he says that he took $130,000 line of credit and he created this llc and then he wired it to mr. davidson. why? because mr. pharaoh explained how and mr. davidson explained how. miss daniels explained how. it's very important to put all of these people to corroborate michael cohen. outline the conspiracy to promote donald trump's election by unlawful means which is what the prosecution theory is for that additional crime that would...
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you have michael cohen on paperwork, michael cohen having texts, phone call, there's not a lot of donald trump. the only direct donald trump conversations we've got so far was from the first witness, and that was david pecker. >> in the end, the lot of this is a side show. the key question is when trump directed those payments to be made to michael cohen and when he directed records to be made and if he directed records to be made, and false records to be made. there's likely a witness from trump tower, inside the trump organization who's going to say, yes, trump said, write them to michael cohen, and here's how i knew. >> they need the witness to say as plainly as that? >> it can't be they knew. it can't be i assumed this because that's -- >> it has to be i saw this. >> davidson said, he didn't say i know for a fact donald trump was going to be paying the $130,000. he said i assumed it was him or corporate affiliation, so it can't be speculation or assumption. right now we have it's michael cohen. and he's corroborated, yes he took out the 130. and all of his acts are corroborated. so f
you have michael cohen on paperwork, michael cohen having texts, phone call, there's not a lot of donald trump. the only direct donald trump conversations we've got so far was from the first witness, and that was david pecker. >> in the end, the lot of this is a side show. the key question is when trump directed those payments to be made to michael cohen and when he directed records to be made and if he directed records to be made, and false records to be made. there's likely a witness...
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this is going to take it from the ami deal to direct negotiations with michael cohen, where michael cohen made the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels under a code name that they used, stormy daniels and keith davidson. and that eventually they're going to ultimately try to get that donald trump paid michael cohen back and knew what he was doing. donald trump is walking out right now. the court is in a short recess. eric trump is there for the first time. we have been talking about how the family wasn't there. i have ten seconds left, but tell me what does it mean to have eric there? >> i think it is important for the people who are really paying attention. he did not have any of his family members there before and so the fact that now someone has finally showed up on his behalf is probably a good thing, but the question is are you going to stay and are you going to continue to be there? >> you say finally, only been a week. thank you very much. chuck rosenberg, catherine christian, love the polka dots today, my friend. court is in recess. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell
this is going to take it from the ami deal to direct negotiations with michael cohen, where michael cohen made the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels under a code name that they used, stormy daniels and keith davidson. and that eventually they're going to ultimately try to get that donald trump paid michael cohen back and knew what he was doing. donald trump is walking out right now. the court is in a short recess. eric trump is there for the first time. we have been talking about how the...
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michael cohen when he testifies. he was right in the thick of things. he is somebody that hope hicks is reaching out to. we know from yesterday, there's emails and text messages between them. it's important -- this is a very critical part of her testimony, that he's the person she would reach out to. it makes it more credible when he becomes a person to do something about the stormy daniels tape after that comes out. with respect to the debate, obviously, that's significant. that's what was going on. here we are, less than a month before the election, and this is the issue that is now the opening questions of that debate. obviously, whatever mr. trump might want to think about this being locker room talk at the time, it was a big, big deal. >> catherine is here with me as well. talking about this, the prosecutor is asking hope hicks, did you become aware of reports regarding trump's behavior with women? she says, after the tape, yes, 2 1/2, 3 weeks before the election, he was traveling for rallies, i was with him. th
michael cohen when he testifies. he was right in the thick of things. he is somebody that hope hicks is reaching out to. we know from yesterday, there's emails and text messages between them. it's important -- this is a very critical part of her testimony, that he's the person she would reach out to. it makes it more credible when he becomes a person to do something about the stormy daniels tape after that comes out. with respect to the debate, obviously, that's significant. that's what was...
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mcconney was asked if he interacted with michael cohen. he said he had conversations with him by the coffee machine. what else are prosecutors learning? >> reporter: he said he understood him to be a lawyer, sheepishly stating that, while he was at the trump org saichlths now we've moved on to the critical part, january of 2017. this is happening as donald trump is preparing and being sworn into office and then all the way to the week after donald trump's first week in the white house. this is conversations that jeffrey mcconney, the controller for the trump organization, is now articulating in front of the jury. it has to do with what allen weisselberg told him about the reimbursement checks to michael cohen. again, allen weisselberg we don't expect to testify. that's what makes jeffrey mcconney's testimony so key here. they're going in january of 2017, beginning have to have a conversation about those checks that needed to get back to michael cohen, mcconney is saying. he's noting as the guy overseeing the ledger for the trump organizati
mcconney was asked if he interacted with michael cohen. he said he had conversations with him by the coffee machine. what else are prosecutors learning? >> reporter: he said he understood him to be a lawyer, sheepishly stating that, while he was at the trump org saichlths now we've moved on to the critical part, january of 2017. this is happening as donald trump is preparing and being sworn into office and then all the way to the week after donald trump's first week in the white house....
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we were thinking, michael cohen is the star witness and how will they corroborate michael cohen. and i really think the way to think about this case is this case is made very much without michael cohen. i mean, this is so corroborated and it is not just that you have david pecker and now keith davidson, they're stories are just hand and glove. i mean, they fit together so perfectly. and they tell a complex story. i mean, something that if you were making it up, it wouldn't be -- it would be kind of intricacy and also it is completely corroborated particularly with respect to mr. davidson by so many texts and email exchanges an the written documents. this is one where with almost every question there is a reference to a document so that the jurors could see there is no question about what he is saying. it is completely backed up. so by the time you get to michael cohen, i think the way that i think this is going to be summed up on by the prosecution, is to say, you know what, if michael cohen had said anything else, you would have thought he was lying. it is so completely consiste
we were thinking, michael cohen is the star witness and how will they corroborate michael cohen. and i really think the way to think about this case is this case is made very much without michael cohen. i mean, this is so corroborated and it is not just that you have david pecker and now keith davidson, they're stories are just hand and glove. i mean, they fit together so perfectly. and they tell a complex story. i mean, something that if you were making it up, it wouldn't be -- it would be...
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when you talk about michael cohen, i find it comic that the motivations they describe to michael cohen. the same, this is the difference talking about, that donald trump didn't have anything to do with this, michael cohen was acting independently and the reason he was taking out a home equity loan to pay off an adult film star before the election was because he wanted trump to win so he could go to washington and get a job. the defense brings up a piece of evidence which is a back and forth, this is an excerpt from keith davidson talking to prosecution saying, quoting michael cohen saying something to the effect of jesus christ, can you believe i'm not going to washington after everything that i've done for that guy. i can't believe i'm not going to washington. i save that guys but. so many times. you don't even know. that is supposedly like the evidence. michael cohen enraged he will not be the attorney general of the united states is somehow evidence michael cohen was doing this of his own accord. >> commencing conversation, keith davidson testified there was a comment that michael c
when you talk about michael cohen, i find it comic that the motivations they describe to michael cohen. the same, this is the difference talking about, that donald trump didn't have anything to do with this, michael cohen was acting independently and the reason he was taking out a home equity loan to pay off an adult film star before the election was because he wanted trump to win so he could go to washington and get a job. the defense brings up a piece of evidence which is a back and forth,...
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paid to michael cohen every year. the break down, $105,000 total from the revokable trust and $315,000 total from donald trump's personal account. each payment going through donald trump himself. important to lay that out, jose, the documentation and, again, going back to the importance of these documents for the jury to understand completely why it is they paid out a total of $420,000 to michael cohen over a period of a year to reimburse him and once again breaking it down to $130,000 that was going to stormy daniels. a $60,000 pay out for a bonus. then the rest of it all for taxes, totaling $420,000, jose. >> interesting because as this breakdown was being, you know, focussed upon, there was an objection. it was just as they were talking about the donald trump revokable trust. there was an objection. a bench hearing and now they're going back to an exhibit, which is exactly the document of the revokable trust account. dave, what is the prosecution doing with this specific aspect? here's the breakdown. here's where t
paid to michael cohen every year. the break down, $105,000 total from the revokable trust and $315,000 total from donald trump's personal account. each payment going through donald trump himself. important to lay that out, jose, the documentation and, again, going back to the importance of these documents for the jury to understand completely why it is they paid out a total of $420,000 to michael cohen over a period of a year to reimburse him and once again breaking it down to $130,000 that was...
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michael cohen is not going to be a bad witness. it's such a ridiculous argument. >> he'll be able to communicate in ways the jury will find relatable and be able to absorb, but he has a fleet of louis vuitton baggage. >> that all relates to donald trump. >> again, it opens the door for impeaching his credibility. my point is, donald trump is orchestrating this defense. you see him communicating with todd blanche, he's the guy in charge here. i think that's got to be difficult. he wants a certain narrative to be advanced. i think they are trying to advance this narrative. it may not be the best narrative. >> we'll have another come back on the other side because we have so much more. all sticking around for much more on the first criminal trial of a former president and all the tabloid fun that took place today. "the reidout" continues after this. we're here with chris counahan of our local leaffilter. so chris, tell us how leaffilter is different from every other gutter protection on the market. with leaffilters, patented filter te
michael cohen is not going to be a bad witness. it's such a ridiculous argument. >> he'll be able to communicate in ways the jury will find relatable and be able to absorb, but he has a fleet of louis vuitton baggage. >> that all relates to donald trump. >> again, it opens the door for impeaching his credibility. my point is, donald trump is orchestrating this defense. you see him communicating with todd blanche, he's the guy in charge here. i think that's got to be difficult....
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text messages from michael cohen to hope hicks. this one, michael cohen saying call me, any news. any news. now, we're at three question marks. first one only had any news? and then any news, and three question marks. the prosecutor says, what was he asking about. i don't actually know other than pickup of the story. and then there are more texts. do you have a memory after the article was published online of what was the michael cohen response, and that was, according to hope hicks, lots of innuendos with little facts. anytime we're looking at something brought into evidence with michael cohen, and as of just yesterday, his name had been mentioned a thousand times in this trial. i don't know where we are now, but when we went on the air yesterday, his name had been mentioned over the course of the last three weeks more than a thousands times. almost every time michael cohen gets mentioned, there's a specific reason going forward why this is happening. >> it is. you have to understand in terms of making connections and corroboration, it's easier when everybody is in the same room,
text messages from michael cohen to hope hicks. this one, michael cohen saying call me, any news. any news. now, we're at three question marks. first one only had any news? and then any news, and three question marks. the prosecutor says, what was he asking about. i don't actually know other than pickup of the story. and then there are more texts. do you have a memory after the article was published online of what was the michael cohen response, and that was, according to hope hicks, lots of...
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donald trump actually signed checks to michael cohen. here in 2024, a jury today for first time saw those very checks for themselves. >> i remember that. i think they ended up on the front page of the "new york times." >> that was very powerful. they didn't come out of a corporate account. most came out of his account and were signed by him. we also heard the evidence that the checks were sent to the white house via fedex for him to be signed. he signed them and then sent them back. he knew full well the money was going out to michael cohen. the question becomes, can donald trump's lawyers convince the jury was it for legal fees and was it not? the argument was made today that this was for legal fees performed. at one point -- >> cohen didn't work there anymore, right? >> he didn't. but they are arguing he was doing legal services. the interesting part i thought of the whole day was michael cohen would send invoices saying, per my retainer agreement. nobody saw the retainer agreement. at one point donald trump's lawyers were arguing it w
donald trump actually signed checks to michael cohen. here in 2024, a jury today for first time saw those very checks for themselves. >> i remember that. i think they ended up on the front page of the "new york times." >> that was very powerful. they didn't come out of a corporate account. most came out of his account and were signed by him. we also heard the evidence that the checks were sent to the white house via fedex for him to be signed. he signed them and then sent...
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michael cohen came into this -- everything michael cohen says he's almost out of a comic book grifting in new york. i don't think todd blanche is that way. >> you have evan corcoran who became a very important witness. turned over all his notes to jack smith. you do have rudy giuliani who represented trump in mueller all the way through the election denialism. he's now bankrupt. you don't have many people who represented trump and came out better for it. >> or escaped. >> or came out better, enhanced. tacopina might be the only exception. >> he's been pushed to the side. i don't know if he'll even get paid. if you don't perform well in front of donald trump he won't pay his bills. this trade off that i'll get publicity or i'll get a good paycheck and it's worth whatever personal embarrassment, it doesn't often happen for people. >> what do you say? >> i was surprised the defense went after davidson on extortion. first off, it's highly disputable if that's true. even if it was, you know what's not a defense to campaign finance violation, extortion. it's like playing tennis with a golf c
michael cohen came into this -- everything michael cohen says he's almost out of a comic book grifting in new york. i don't think todd blanche is that way. >> you have evan corcoran who became a very important witness. turned over all his notes to jack smith. you do have rudy giuliani who represented trump in mueller all the way through the election denialism. he's now bankrupt. you don't have many people who represented trump and came out better for it. >> or escaped. >> or...
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cohen, and then grossing up, right, doubling up the $180,000 to cover michael cohen's taxes. that is the picture, right, the story they are trying to tell. the witnesses showing the evidence of these checks, of these invoices, submitted by michael cohen. >> can you remind our viewers who haven't been with us all day long, going through the testimonies and the key pieces why the first check wasn't from donald trump's personal account like the rest of them. it was from the trust, and then it pivoted out of donald trump's personal account? >> reporter: the first check was from the irrevocable trust and pivoted to donald trump's personal account as well. they walked through where it was, some of the moneys were being disbursed from, and our understanding is obviously that the former presidential signed off on all checks that were higher than $10,000, either him, his son, eric trump, and/or don jr. eric trump who's sitting in court today, and even while he was president of the united states, all of those checks that were coming out of his own personal account in 2017 were being si
cohen, and then grossing up, right, doubling up the $180,000 to cover michael cohen's taxes. that is the picture, right, the story they are trying to tell. the witnesses showing the evidence of these checks, of these invoices, submitted by michael cohen. >> can you remind our viewers who haven't been with us all day long, going through the testimonies and the key pieces why the first check wasn't from donald trump's personal account like the rest of them. it was from the trust, and then...
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two with michael cohen saying, and i'm paraphrasing, michael cohen is a liar. michael cohen is not going to be a good witness, he's problematic. things we have heard repeatedly when it comes to the star witness, michael cohen. then it's the jury at which the former president said 95% of the jury is democrats. it seemed as if during a gag order hearing earlier today, the judge is leaning more towards finding donald trump in violation of what he said about the jury. we know as part of the gag order, the former president could not speak ill of the jury or cannot speak at all of any witnesses or any potential witnesses. it seems if judge juan merchan is leaning in the direction of holding donald trump in violation of a gag order when he spoke about the jury. when it comes to michael cohen, he's more on the fence. david pecker, he's less concerned. he said that in court today. one other thing i think is important to mention is the defense brought up by todd blanche, who seemed more prepared this time around during the gag order hearing, when it came to michael cohen
two with michael cohen saying, and i'm paraphrasing, michael cohen is a liar. michael cohen is not going to be a good witness, he's problematic. things we have heard repeatedly when it comes to the star witness, michael cohen. then it's the jury at which the former president said 95% of the jury is democrats. it seemed as if during a gag order hearing earlier today, the judge is leaning more towards finding donald trump in violation of what he said about the jury. we know as part of the gag...
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cohen and donald trump's arrangement, alleged arrangement to reimburse michael cohen with the litany of checks throughout the year. and, of course, in 2018 david pecker testified just this last week that there was a phone call that he had with sarah huckabee sanders, who was the white house press secretary at the time, along with hope hicks, who had just left the white house there in march of 2018, when karen mcdougal did an interview with anderson cooper, and it was in the aftermath of that that the three of them allegedly had a phone call in which they discussed how to prolong a contract agreement to keep karen mcdougal from further speaking out. there is a long list of questions that the prosecution has for hope hicks. of course, it is their decision to bring her to the stand and she is now here in lower manhattan, about to answer those questions. jose? >> and, carol, the post reports that trump has not seen hicks or spoken to her since 2022. he's apparently been chatting with his defense attorney ahead of hicks' arrival in the courtroom. she's now on the stand. carol, different i
cohen and donald trump's arrangement, alleged arrangement to reimburse michael cohen with the litany of checks throughout the year. and, of course, in 2018 david pecker testified just this last week that there was a phone call that he had with sarah huckabee sanders, who was the white house press secretary at the time, along with hope hicks, who had just left the white house there in march of 2018, when karen mcdougal did an interview with anderson cooper, and it was in the aftermath of that...
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cohen for the $130,000 that michael cohen delivered to stormy daniels. no dispute that michael cohen delivered $130,000 to stormy daniels. the defense wants to create doubt about there being any payment there. but you pointed out to us today that there's a very important piece of evidence that hasn't come up yet in the trial about this. >> well, you have to remember obviously that the government has the checks signed by donald trump himself. one of the reasons hope hicks is so important is that she makes it clear that he knew that these were reimbursements of the michael cohen hush-money payments. there's more than that. in 2018, so not that long after this, in a lawsuit brought by stormy daniels in california where she was trying to get out of the nda, donald trump repeatedly admitted in filings that he had reimbursed michael cohen and essential consulting for the hush-money payments. it's over and over again. and when the court issues its ruling, the court actually says these are admissions by donald trump and michael cohen, his codefendant. they are c
cohen for the $130,000 that michael cohen delivered to stormy daniels. no dispute that michael cohen delivered $130,000 to stormy daniels. the defense wants to create doubt about there being any payment there. but you pointed out to us today that there's a very important piece of evidence that hasn't come up yet in the trial about this. >> well, you have to remember obviously that the government has the checks signed by donald trump himself. one of the reasons hope hicks is so important...
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when you talk about michael cohen, i find it comic the motivations they ascribe to michael cohen. this is the defense i'm talking about. that donald trump didn't have anything to dod with this, michael cohen was acting independently, and the reason he was taking out a home equity loan to pay off an adult film star before the election is because b he wanted trump to wi so he could go to washington and get a job. and the defense brings up a piece of prosecution evidence, which is a back and forth -- sorry, this is an excerpt from keith davidson talking to prosecution saying -- quoting michael cohen saying something to the effect of jesus christ, can you effing believe i'm not going to washington after everything i've done for that effing guy. i can't believe i'm not going to washington. ino saved that guy's butt -- it a family program -- so many times you don't even know. michael cohen enraged he's somehow not going to be with the president of the united states. >> right. and also in that conversation keith davidson testified there was a comment michael cohen said i'm not being reim
when you talk about michael cohen, i find it comic the motivations they ascribe to michael cohen. this is the defense i'm talking about. that donald trump didn't have anything to dod with this, michael cohen was acting independently, and the reason he was taking out a home equity loan to pay off an adult film star before the election is because b he wanted trump to wi so he could go to washington and get a job. and the defense brings up a piece of prosecution evidence, which is a back and forth...
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not only that, it's not like michael cohen had $130,000 just lying around. he had to take out a home equity line of credit to be able to get that money. and again, you would also have to believe that according to david pecker and donald trump was really concerned in conversations about the karen mcdougal payment, making sure that happened. so then you would have to believe after the "access hollywood" tape when we hear that the campaign is in crisis, then when stormy daniels wants to get paid on this, the all of a sudden donald trump is hands-off. he's not interested anymore, and michael cohen is just going rogue and doing this on his own. it defies common sense. >> that has always been my challenge with this. you would have to believe that lawyers get paid by their clients to do work. they don't put out money for their clients. they don't go out on their own and just pay for things they think might hurt their clients. there's not a lawyer that's ever lived that's ever -- i have never heard of that, so it feels like the defense has a huge burden here to prov
not only that, it's not like michael cohen had $130,000 just lying around. he had to take out a home equity line of credit to be able to get that money. and again, you would also have to believe that according to david pecker and donald trump was really concerned in conversations about the karen mcdougal payment, making sure that happened. so then you would have to believe after the "access hollywood" tape when we hear that the campaign is in crisis, then when stormy daniels wants to...
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cohen. >> in the application to michael cohen, that michael cohen went rogue. in a way, it's really the only narrow avenue the defense has left, this underlying transaction, they have to concede it. the other point is michael cohen calling himself mr. fix it. that implies that he gave that name to himself. he put that crown upon his own head and took it upon himself to, as hope hicks said, break things, and then fix them, so you have just two right there towards the end of testimony that are probably really helpful for the defense, and i suspect you'll see them again in closing, and i extra suspect you'll see the word rogue prominently as a central theme of the closing arguments. >> chuck, do you think the prosecution has missed any opportunity without doing a redirect before dismissing hope today, and presumably not bringing her back on monday? >> i don't, alex. just as danny made the point that the defense got what they needed and stopped. the prosecution must have felt they too had what they needed. look, no witness is perfect. and no witness gives one side
cohen. >> in the application to michael cohen, that michael cohen went rogue. in a way, it's really the only narrow avenue the defense has left, this underlying transaction, they have to concede it. the other point is michael cohen calling himself mr. fix it. that implies that he gave that name to himself. he put that crown upon his own head and took it upon himself to, as hope hicks said, break things, and then fix them, so you have just two right there towards the end of testimony that...
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as michael cohen would be. so it's very important, boring, but very important testimony. >> so, vaughn, this is really important testimony, but it has to come back to donald trump. they have to bring him in. and presumably that would be through michael cohen. michael cohen is the link that can identify him as the person who, you know, organized this. wrote the checks. >> right. catherine and andrew are absolutely right. this is part of what we're listening to from the testimony of mcconney and perhaps the prosecution just hasn't gotten here to this point. but we're looking at to what extent was his understanding that this was in fact a reimbursement to cohen. he here has outwardly acknowledged inside of the courtroom that this was, in his mind, apparently not a normal legal retainer. yet alone for michael cohen, somebody he described who had been somebody he had engaged with in conversation at the coffee counter inside of trump tower. but now instead, you're looking at michael cohen's testimony becoming of para
as michael cohen would be. so it's very important, boring, but very important testimony. >> so, vaughn, this is really important testimony, but it has to come back to donald trump. they have to bring him in. and presumably that would be through michael cohen. michael cohen is the link that can identify him as the person who, you know, organized this. wrote the checks. >> right. catherine and andrew are absolutely right. this is part of what we're listening to from the testimony of...
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michael cohen will testify to that, i'm sure. and by signing those checks and calling them legal expenses, that's fraud. and -- which is a misdemeanor, but that fraud for the purpose of effecting the election makes it a felony. and they're establishing in hope hicks' testimony and testimony establishes very well as i'm sure collin will say the same thing that it was for the purpose of efkting the election. cohen is a difficult witness because he has lied on other things and they will try to impeach his testimony, but the testimony by hicks and by peck er and davidson all corroborates what cohen will say. >> and the actual check signed by donald trump to him was if his legal expenses, no one ever explained, well, what legal work did he do for that exact amount of money. >> that's right. >> this is going to be very interesting. thank you for being with us, as always, congressman jerry nadler. let's bring in our political panel, ameisha cross, democratic strategist and a contributor for the daily beast. and susan, republican strateg
michael cohen will testify to that, i'm sure. and by signing those checks and calling them legal expenses, that's fraud. and -- which is a misdemeanor, but that fraud for the purpose of effecting the election makes it a felony. and they're establishing in hope hicks' testimony and testimony establishes very well as i'm sure collin will say the same thing that it was for the purpose of efkting the election. cohen is a difficult witness because he has lied on other things and they will try to...
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he handled the reimbursements to michael cohen for paying off stormy daniels. there are a pile of documents we're seeing for the first time, including these checks. if you're familiar with donald trump's signatures, those are checks that were signed by donald trump himself after an explanation about the difference between a trust, which was an account for the company, and a, essentially, private account for donald trump. well, mcconney detailed how he kept notes and bank statements related to cohen stored in a locked door and how the hush money checks had to be sent to the white house for donald trump to sign. i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. joyce vance is a university of alabama law professor. tristan snell is with me, author of "taking down trump 12 rules for prosecuting donald trump by someone who did it successfully." charles coleman is here, civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst, and republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, susan del percio. in just a minute, charles, i'm going to
he handled the reimbursements to michael cohen for paying off stormy daniels. there are a pile of documents we're seeing for the first time, including these checks. if you're familiar with donald trump's signatures, those are checks that were signed by donald trump himself after an explanation about the difference between a trust, which was an account for the company, and a, essentially, private account for donald trump. well, mcconney detailed how he kept notes and bank statements related to...
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and michael cohen makes those points. even though the defense will attack his credibility, the foundation has been laid. we have heard this from multiple witnesses. witnesses who were favorable to donald trump. davidpecker said very favorable things about donald trump and so did hope hicks. they were from the witnesses to him. so when michael cohen comes on and they say that he has an ax to grind, it will fall flat with the jury. >> so there is a duality to what is happening here. the criminal trial is proceeding and then the conversation being had about the gag order. we know donald trump has paid a $9000 fine and there will be a hearing on four other potential violations of the gag order. at the same time, you have former president trump on truth settled just on saturday with this. all the so-called evidence by the cricket joe biden fascist prosecutors has nothing to do with the phony crime case against me. virtually, every great legal scholars says the crooked new york city d.a. alvin bragg was allowing violent crime t
and michael cohen makes those points. even though the defense will attack his credibility, the foundation has been laid. we have heard this from multiple witnesses. witnesses who were favorable to donald trump. davidpecker said very favorable things about donald trump and so did hope hicks. they were from the witnesses to him. so when michael cohen comes on and they say that he has an ax to grind, it will fall flat with the jury. >> so there is a duality to what is happening here. the...
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michael cohen himself really went rogue and broke from trump world. to hear michael cohen say in his voice, nobody is worried about me, but i can't tell you how many times he and i talked about the fact he hated wheat to the settlement, and yet everyone around him consistently told him it was the right thing to do. that demonstrates the people within the cone of knowledge might not have just been cohen and david pecker and davidson and trump. potentially others as well. at least by the fall of 2017, even if they didn't know so when realtime. that was the call to me they had the most impact. i am interested to see, as this goes on, whether we will hear further recordings that cohen made on his own and/or that of the participants may have made. the prosecution has said all along, you think this case is about michael cohen, but really, you are going to see a whole lot of evidence that you did not expect. we will show you paper, email, text messages, and recordings. sure enough, that's what they have done. >> yeah, that recording, hate the fact we did hav
michael cohen himself really went rogue and broke from trump world. to hear michael cohen say in his voice, nobody is worried about me, but i can't tell you how many times he and i talked about the fact he hated wheat to the settlement, and yet everyone around him consistently told him it was the right thing to do. that demonstrates the people within the cone of knowledge might not have just been cohen and david pecker and davidson and trump. potentially others as well. at least by the fall of...
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this is not specific to michael cohen. i say that because of what i spoke about earlier and jumping off of what andrew was talking about in. the retainer agreement, which i mentioned earlier. poking holes in the fact that there was no retainer agreement between stormy daniels and davidson when she retained him. when it comes to the pseudonyms. we talked about dennison. peggy peterson. the argument made by the prosecution, why would you use pseudonyms if you have nothing to cover up? if there was nothing nefarious, this hush money payment, if there was nothing nefarious, why would you use a pseudonym? a question asked, peggy peterson, that was your idea? davidson says, that was not my idea. it's widely used in these types of deals. this is the back and forth. asking these questions, trying to poke holes in the prosecution's argument and saying, these contracts, these pseudonyms, these names that are used are par the course for these types of agreements. >> jeffrey, you were talking about granular and andrew is talking about
this is not specific to michael cohen. i say that because of what i spoke about earlier and jumping off of what andrew was talking about in. the retainer agreement, which i mentioned earlier. poking holes in the fact that there was no retainer agreement between stormy daniels and davidson when she retained him. when it comes to the pseudonyms. we talked about dennison. peggy peterson. the argument made by the prosecution, why would you use pseudonyms if you have nothing to cover up? if there...
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to hear things from michael cohen you have heard from others. the other is they are going to think about how to rehabilitate him on redirect. that's something that i'm quite sure they are prepared for. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me at social media. you can watch clips from our show at msnbc.com/jdb on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. katy tur picks up with more news right now. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," former president trump found in context of his gag order and fined by judge merchan who threatened jail time if donald trump refuses to respect the
to hear things from michael cohen you have heard from others. the other is they are going to think about how to rehabilitate him on redirect. that's something that i'm quite sure they are prepared for. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. appreciate it. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me at social media. you can watch clips from our show at msnbc.com/jdb on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. katy tur picks up with more...
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she is a loyalist and here she is, taking the stand to cooperate michael cohen? that would be must-see tv if only they had cameras in the courtroom. >> you put that vision in my mind. i do not want to picture that. last words, perry. who are you most interested in seeing and why? >> michael cohen, just because -- he is at the center of this, but we also know what will be interesting is this is -- you will see fireworks from president donald 's team as they cross-examine michael cohen and try to really take away his credibility in the eyes of the jury. from both sides on that one, it will be an interesting one and important one to watch >> a great chat. i would love to see you here again soon. thank you. >>> their lives changed in an instant. the damage left behind for more than 100 tornadoes that touched down this weekend. we are back in 60 seconds. seco. >>> more breaking news. college student standing call is that -- solidarity vowing to give up their protest on campus is across the country. this as jewish leaders and some lawmakers demand president joe biden t
she is a loyalist and here she is, taking the stand to cooperate michael cohen? that would be must-see tv if only they had cameras in the courtroom. >> you put that vision in my mind. i do not want to picture that. last words, perry. who are you most interested in seeing and why? >> michael cohen, just because -- he is at the center of this, but we also know what will be interesting is this is -- you will see fireworks from president donald 's team as they cross-examine michael...
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this was michael cohen's doing and michael cohen had this deal to get this home equity line of credit and to pay off stormy daniels. but donald trump didn't do that and by the way, didn't he tell his banker that he was doing consulting fees so therefore donald trump didn't know about that. it was a little -- it is awkward and it is basically a reach, but it is the kind of thing that the defense is trying to poke holes in a very strong circumstantial case. and i guess that is where they're going to highlight later on when they go after michael cohen and try to eviscerate him. >> so, to that point, this is from keith davidson's testimony yesterday. and this is what you alluded to. while i think could you tell by the emails that i was sending him, there was a great deal of frustration by my clients and i let him know the level of dissatisfaction was quite high and i stated goddamn it, i'll just do it myself. what did you understand when he said i'll just do it myself. that he, michael cohen, would not seek authority to consummate -- excuse me fund the deal, it was consummated with a sign
this was michael cohen's doing and michael cohen had this deal to get this home equity line of credit and to pay off stormy daniels. but donald trump didn't do that and by the way, didn't he tell his banker that he was doing consulting fees so therefore donald trump didn't know about that. it was a little -- it is awkward and it is basically a reach, but it is the kind of thing that the defense is trying to poke holes in a very strong circumstantial case. and i guess that is where they're going...
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she subsequently reached out to michael cohen as well, michael cohen denying it, david pecker saying it was for legitimate work. putting all of those characters, all of these stories together, she is integral. she is an integral piece, chris , to this puzzle. one more thing i want to add to this, wrapping at 3:45 today, a juror has an appointment. we're going to get out a little earlier today. i expect that we're going to remain in prosecution. we're going to remain with the people's attorneys in questioning of hope hicks. they're not going to toss this off to cross examination before monday. that is my expectation. when you think about when we're going to return from lunch. they've only got about 90 minutes or so left in their questioning of hope hicks there. >> so charles, if you were -- thank you very much, yasmin, for that. if you were the prosecutor, what would you be doing as we come back from lunch? >> i'm doing the same thing that yasmin just described. i'm not going to necessarily try to give them a chance to start their cross examination. i'm pretty sure that that's it. i'm
she subsequently reached out to michael cohen as well, michael cohen denying it, david pecker saying it was for legitimate work. putting all of those characters, all of these stories together, she is integral. she is an integral piece, chris , to this puzzle. one more thing i want to add to this, wrapping at 3:45 today, a juror has an appointment. we're going to get out a little earlier today. i expect that we're going to remain in prosecution. we're going to remain with the people's attorneys...
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first of all, that trump had direct knowledge that michael cohen was paying hush money. it wasn't for legal expenses or legal retainers. second fall, she cast doubt on the theory of the case that trump has been pushing, which was that this was michael cohen freelancing, he was going rogue, acting out of supposed selflessness because she said michael cohen is not that kind of guy. he doesn't act selflessly, he likes to take credit. >> the beginning of the testimony, if we go back to that with you, katie, this was about the campaign scramble, when they were hearing about the access hollywood tape. the new it would be released. let's take a listen to that part of the testimony or give you a brief refreshing because we can't hear the testimony but here it is. >> it's like a magnet. when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> okay. that can't be entered into evidence but the jury was allowed to hear it. talk about how that played into hope hicks testimony, about the campaign reaction to this and what she laid out. >> it is fascinating because the reason wh
first of all, that trump had direct knowledge that michael cohen was paying hush money. it wasn't for legal expenses or legal retainers. second fall, she cast doubt on the theory of the case that trump has been pushing, which was that this was michael cohen freelancing, he was going rogue, acting out of supposed selflessness because she said michael cohen is not that kind of guy. he doesn't act selflessly, he likes to take credit. >> the beginning of the testimony, if we go back to that...
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why donald trump and michael cohen would want to try to silence stormy daniels. try to buy her story, bury it. because at the moment in the campaign, late 2016, a month before the election, the access hollywood tape comes out and it looks like he is going to, donald trump hemorrhage suburban women and lose the election. they want to try to stem the bleeding. i'll read you more about what's going on inside the courtroom. davidson says that the access hollywood tape gave her story new life and new value. he says the hot mike recorded statements by both men, meaning donald trump and billy bush, were troublesome according to davidson. that tape then had tremendous influence on the marketability of stormy's story. there had been very little interest in the agent that was representing daniels selling stormy's story. it was not until that access hollywood tape reached a crescendo, his words. davidson is explaining that even though there was another outlet that we published a 2011 stormy story, we understood it would get worse if she amplified the story by talking about
why donald trump and michael cohen would want to try to silence stormy daniels. try to buy her story, bury it. because at the moment in the campaign, late 2016, a month before the election, the access hollywood tape comes out and it looks like he is going to, donald trump hemorrhage suburban women and lose the election. they want to try to stem the bleeding. i'll read you more about what's going on inside the courtroom. davidson says that the access hollywood tape gave her story new life and...
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you described michael cohen as a "doll with a pheasant in his mouth " which made me laugh. he is someone who wants to show his boss what he did. how compelling and important is that? how does that link to what you expect to sesame to be like when he takes the stand? >> the jury will be asked, what possible reason would there be for michael cohen to have kept this to himself anything there are two answers. one is that he wouldn't because he would want credit for this and there's nothing to hide, there's only something to make him look good. you see from hope hicks that donald trump's reaction was, thank god michael cohen did this, it would have been bad if it came out before the election. that is how she ends her direct testimony on friday. it was devastating. everything they refer to, with respect to michael cohen about his character, is something the d.a. will be hiding from. everything you are hearing is that he would not be doing this on his own and out of the goodness of his heart and they are sort of going to flip the script on that issue. he would have of course gotte
you described michael cohen as a "doll with a pheasant in his mouth " which made me laugh. he is someone who wants to show his boss what he did. how compelling and important is that? how does that link to what you expect to sesame to be like when he takes the stand? >> the jury will be asked, what possible reason would there be for michael cohen to have kept this to himself anything there are two answers. one is that he wouldn't because he would want credit for this and there's...
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this wasn't michael cohen, their problematic witness. this was hope hicks, who literally -- her testimony is littered with compliments for donald trump. >> so, if i'm the prosecutor in the closing, i mention -- i would mention the fact that she cried. look how hard it was. you saw. you saw how hard it was for her to make that statement. she did it because she had to tell the truth. i would absolutely draw on that and take them back to this moment because the jury is not going to forget this. this is the friday before they're going home for the weekend. this is going to be in their minds for days. >> vaughn, there's so much hope hicks fills in that i think wasn't known to those of us covering the 2016 campaign. let me bring back to you some of her testimony about october 7th when she gets the email from the "washington post." she gets ask, when did you first find out about the access hollywood tape? the afternoon of october 7, 2016. how long before the general election? >> a month, a little less. prosecutor, how did you learn of it? i rec
this wasn't michael cohen, their problematic witness. this was hope hicks, who literally -- her testimony is littered with compliments for donald trump. >> so, if i'm the prosecutor in the closing, i mention -- i would mention the fact that she cried. look how hard it was. you saw. you saw how hard it was for her to make that statement. she did it because she had to tell the truth. i would absolutely draw on that and take them back to this moment because the jury is not going to forget...
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it's keeping with how michael cohen behaved and how a real estate clients behave in michael cohen represented to us on paper that he was establishing a real estate consultancy and paying a retainer to a lawyer. >> hold that thought because you're going to stay here. i want to talk about that, the gag order ruling, how trump is enjoying his time in the freezing courthouse. that's all next. with absorbine pro, pain won't hold you back from your passions. it's the only solution with two max-strength anesthetics to deliver the strongest numbing pain relief available. so, do your thing like a pro, pain-free. absorbine pro. business. it's not a nine-to-five proposition. it's all day and into the night. it's all the things that keep this world turning. the go-tos that keep us going. the places we cheer. and check in. they all choose the advanced network solutions and round the clock partnership from comcast business. see why comcast business powers more small businesses than anyone else. get started for $49.99 a month plus ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. don't wait- call today. with absor
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this is michael cohen's chance to set it all straight. to set it all straight with donald trump and the way he does that is just by going with the flow, you know, admitting the stuff he did wrong, and just sticking to the facts. he's a smart enough guy that he's going to do that. i think people are going to be surprised by that. >> i volunteer to be in the courtroom that day because donald trump looked at the screen instead of looking at hope hicks. i want to see if he's willing to man up and look michael cohen in the eye. lisa and george are sticking with us for much more on the damnic testimony today. "the reidout" continues after this. ut" continues after this and sweat-proof. they're leakproof underwear, from knix. comfy & confident protection that feel just like normal. with so many styles and colors to choose from, switching is easy at knix.com if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoaci
this is michael cohen's chance to set it all straight. to set it all straight with donald trump and the way he does that is just by going with the flow, you know, admitting the stuff he did wrong, and just sticking to the facts. he's a smart enough guy that he's going to do that. i think people are going to be surprised by that. >> i volunteer to be in the courtroom that day because donald trump looked at the screen instead of looking at hope hicks. i want to see if he's willing to man up...
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when you can put trump in the room with michael cohen in a conversation with michael cohen and david pecker, that shows he had the knowledge. the question is, can you place trump with the decision to falsify business records? you have to get there and that's the only piece of the puzzle missing. stuff like this is powerful because people lie but recordings don't. >> to that point, trump's lawyers can attack michael cohen all they want , but when you have a recording like this, you can't refute it. could these primary sources make a difference? >> yeah, the witness today was presenting donald trump, his own voice. you cannot refute that and the more you hear his voice, the more it seems real, it's not just a tale told by sleazy characters that you may not find reputable. he actually, is in fact, the main character. it's not surprising that someone charged with a crime is surrounded by people who may not be the most reputable people in the world. that is the main thing for every prosecutor, but juries time and time again will make the distinction and understand that witnesses who are c
when you can put trump in the room with michael cohen in a conversation with michael cohen and david pecker, that shows he had the knowledge. the question is, can you place trump with the decision to falsify business records? you have to get there and that's the only piece of the puzzle missing. stuff like this is powerful because people lie but recordings don't. >> to that point, trump's lawyers can attack michael cohen all they want , but when you have a recording like this, you can't...
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michael cohen is a flawed witness. if you come up with a pre- bottle, you got david , you have keith davidson and now you have karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. by the time that michael cohen takes a stand the jurors will already have seen the facts and they are going to be more willing to believe him. i do not believe that michael cohen will be the final witness. he is a flawed witness. they go into the deliberation room, they are working really hard to point out these in advance to give the evidence in advance to protect michael cohen to create the firewall and i think that's working. >> this is the week that the prosecution will likely start focusing on that. what documents will the jury see? >> they're going to see the signed checks. reimbursing michael cohen for his hush money payments to stormy daniels. we have already seen a ton of email exchanges and we know that donald trump didn't send emails, but all of his under links did. the combination of his text messages to david parker and dylan howard, the national
michael cohen is a flawed witness. if you come up with a pre- bottle, you got david , you have keith davidson and now you have karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. by the time that michael cohen takes a stand the jurors will already have seen the facts and they are going to be more willing to believe him. i do not believe that michael cohen will be the final witness. he is a flawed witness. they go into the deliberation room, they are working really hard to point out these in advance to give the...
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cohen behaved and in keeping with our real estate clients behave and e michael cohen represented that he was establishing a real estate consultancy. >> hold that thought, because you're going to stay right here. i want to talk about that, the gag order ruling, how trump is enjoying his time in the freezing courthouse, eight hours a day. that is all next. all next. it'e listen to science. one a day is formulated with key nutrients to support whole body health. one a day. science that matters. ♪ on your period, sudden gushes happen. say goodbye gush fears! thanks to always ultra thins... with rapiddry technology... that absorbs two times faster. hellooo clean and comfortable. always. fear no gush. >> tech: at safelite, we'll take care of fixing your windshield. but did you know we can take care of your insurance claim? hellooo clean and comfortable. that means less stress for you. >> woman: thanks. >> tech: my pleasure. have a good one. >> woman: you too. >> tech: schedule today at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ an alternative to pills, voltaren i
cohen behaved and in keeping with our real estate clients behave and e michael cohen represented that he was establishing a real estate consultancy. >> hold that thought, because you're going to stay right here. i want to talk about that, the gag order ruling, how trump is enjoying his time in the freezing courthouse, eight hours a day. that is all next. all next. it'e listen to science. one a day is formulated with key nutrients to support whole body health. one a day. science that...
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michael cohen was not a person that i knew to be selfless. he was the sort of person who was out for credit. so in one blow, hope hicks both dammed the defense very badly and in damaging michael cohen, also help to the prosecution quite a bit. both softening the jury up for the character there about to meet but also almost throwing him under the bus in order to save the case. it wasn't credible to her that michael cohen would have paid this because he was not that guy. >> the other piece she seems to endorse when she gets there is she makes clear that she was basically the communications director. he was in charge of the message and who the message was delivered to. she basically put reporters on the phone and facilitated things but he was a micromanager. >> her communications director experience was not like yours i will venture to say. she, as it medications director, i think you are right. she was a mouthpiece. as she said today, they view trump as a communication savant. that is why the team was as small as y it was. they didn't need all
michael cohen was not a person that i knew to be selfless. he was the sort of person who was out for credit. so in one blow, hope hicks both dammed the defense very badly and in damaging michael cohen, also help to the prosecution quite a bit. both softening the jury up for the character there about to meet but also almost throwing him under the bus in order to save the case. it wasn't credible to her that michael cohen would have paid this because he was not that guy. >> the other piece...
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but is this kind of classic michael cohen? >> look, michael cohen is making a strong case for himself being the most irrepressible star witness in history at this point. i mean, he's, you know, he's written two memoirs on his experiences with former president trump. he's hosted a very popular podcast, actually had a number of celebrities on to talk about his personal journey. working for trump then turning against him and also his broader thoughts on trump and the political movement he leads. i think this is the classic michael cohen. he's been very chatty in a way that i'm sure has given prosecutors tense moments about the things he, you know, directly or indirectly, the things he will be addressing when he takes the stand in this trial. >> maybe chatty bordering on, can't stop himself, jeremy. and also, i guess we can make the argument that may not eve describe it because what happened today in court, there have been complaints from the defense side, look, you've got this gag order on donald trump and he can't talk about wit
but is this kind of classic michael cohen? >> look, michael cohen is making a strong case for himself being the most irrepressible star witness in history at this point. i mean, he's, you know, he's written two memoirs on his experiences with former president trump. he's hosted a very popular podcast, actually had a number of celebrities on to talk about his personal journey. working for trump then turning against him and also his broader thoughts on trump and the political movement he...
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michael cohen. it's the kind of thing the defense absolutely loves. >> right. let's talk about the gag order violations that we opened this segment with. we don't know precisely what day the judge will make a decision, but give us your thoughts about the initial violations, why they came about. have they succeeded in restraining trump? what might we see from the judge in his next decision? >> in a sense, the judge maxed out the monetary fine against donald trump because he gave the statutory maximum of $1,000 per violation and complained at the time that it wasn't enough for someone as well-heeled as donald trump. in a way, he's sort of giving a signal he'd be willing to accelerate the process. all contempt violations, all kinds of punishments related to this kind of gag order violation must be incremental. you start out with fines. even the people in the beginning weren't looking for incarceration. but the judge suggested at the end of this continuum could be incarceration. i don't think he's there
michael cohen. it's the kind of thing the defense absolutely loves. >> right. let's talk about the gag order violations that we opened this segment with. we don't know precisely what day the judge will make a decision, but give us your thoughts about the initial violations, why they came about. have they succeeded in restraining trump? what might we see from the judge in his next decision? >> in a sense, the judge maxed out the monetary fine against donald trump because he gave the...
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we have michael cohen, stormy daniels, karen mcdougal and hope hicks. also, unwavering support from a staunch political ally for tron. >> if he is convicted you will still support him and vote for him? >> absolutely. i think what is going on with donald trump's weaponization of the law. he's being prosecuted in manhattan, one of the deepest blue cities in the country. >> we have reported as an analyst in place covering all these new developments. jake, where will things pick up when the trial starts again on tuesday? >> tuesday is going to kick off the third week of this criminal hussman trial for former president donald trump. this is the first time we are going to see this tight rope walk. the first time he's going to have a rally since he started this trial. it is going to be an otter week ink terms of -- in terms of corn in session. on wednesday he will head to michigan and also wisconsin. these are states trump won in 2016 and then lost about it in 2020. they will be pivotal states for both trump and biden to get electoral victory come this novembe
we have michael cohen, stormy daniels, karen mcdougal and hope hicks. also, unwavering support from a staunch political ally for tron. >> if he is convicted you will still support him and vote for him? >> absolutely. i think what is going on with donald trump's weaponization of the law. he's being prosecuted in manhattan, one of the deepest blue cities in the country. >> we have reported as an analyst in place covering all these new developments. jake, where will things pick...
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with more testimony from michael cohen's former banker. we have two smart legal minds here to break it all down. they join me after a quick break. break. and they're all coming? those who are still with us, yes. grandpa! what's this? your wings. light 'em up! gentlemen, it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. >>> donald trump's criminal trial will pick back up tomorrow in lower manhattan. when a former banker to michael cohen is expected to return to the stand. he was the senior managing director and was assigned to cohen . at least in part due to his reputation for being able to handle what he called, quote, individuals that may be a little challenging. that's quite a banking specialty. he helped cohen set up a bank account for the shell company used to pay hundred $30,000 to stormy daniels. on the eve of the 2016 election. in order to keep her quiet about an affair she said she had with then candidate trump. prosecutor said they have another hours worth of questions for the baker before trial trump's attorneys cross- examine him. thursday, th
with more testimony from michael cohen's former banker. we have two smart legal minds here to break it all down. they join me after a quick break. break. and they're all coming? those who are still with us, yes. grandpa! what's this? your wings. light 'em up! gentlemen, it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. >>> donald trump's criminal trial will pick back up tomorrow in lower manhattan. when a former banker to michael cohen is expected to return to the stand. he was the senior managing...