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kenneth chesebrohad unexpected path to plotting donald trump's coup. he's a graduate of harvard law, work as a researchsistant for the liberal constitutional loss carl or. he later helped tribe represent al refter the 2000 el. donated to democraticemocrat, candidates. but his political leading started to shift after he made a fortune investing in cryptocurrency. he joined the conservative legal movement, representing republican politicians. he got pulled into the trump election scheme by the lead attorney for trump in wisconsin, who chesebro had worked with in recent years. chesebro became one of the masterminds of the coup plot, working in the inner circle, with lawyers like john eastman, rudy giuliani, who are also indicted in georgia. he devised what became known as the fake electors plot. as the january 6th committee explained last summer. >> on november 18th, a lawyer working with the trump campaign named kenneth chesebro, wrote a memo arguing that the trump campaign should organize its own electors in a swing state, that president trump had lost.

. >> joining us more is kenneth nixon. in 2005 he was sentenced to life in prison without parole for an arson house fire that killed two children in detroit. after 16 year this is prison, he walked free in 2021. his conviction is dismissed and charges dropped. prosecutors acknowledges he was innocent and not received a fair trial. kenneth, thanks so much for being with us. he's now the president of the organization of exonerees. what a story you have to tell. what is your reaction when you see a string of overturned cases and wrongfully convicted prisoners freed, like your story? >> first off, thank you for having me. my reaction is this is great. it's great news when we figure out we've got it wrong and i think that it's important that we continue to acknowledge that the system makes mistakes. >> how much do you worry, kenneth, that there are so many more people in the same situation as yours that haven't been identify and had don't have the resources or the wherewithal to find a similar path forward? >> that question kee

remind me, did kenneth chesebro tell your committee anything when you guys were investigating this? did, he did leave some details. but i think what prosecutors here are able to get, the devil is in the details. and i think what's showing here is that there were questions about whether kenneth chesebro is gonna be fully cooperating. we know he pled guilty to the penalty in georgia, but the scope of the cooperation is always hard to know when you're on the outside. this leaked recording today shows that he is really leaning into the role of corroborator. i mean, he is pointing fingers, he is giving long form answers, and i think he has had what is often called a come to jesus moment, where he is accepting responsibility and he is helping the prosecution teams across the country. so i think if i were his codefendants, i'm incredibly worried, because right now the government scope of evidence will be expanding. and now, anytime you can have someone in the room testifying to what they heard, especially when that's a co-defendant, that's all going to be admissible testimony. that stuff i

did kenneth chesebro tell you anything when you guys were investigating this? >> he did. he gaves so some details. i think what prosecutors are able to get, the devil's in the details. i think what it's showing is there are questions about whether kenneth choseesebro is going to be fully cooperating. this aekleaked recording today shows he's really leaning into the role of cooperator. he's pointing fingers, giving long form answers, and he's having the coming to jesus moment, where he's accepting responsibility and helping the prosecution teams across the country. i think if i were his codefendants, i'm incredibly worried because right now the government's scope of evidence will be expanding. and nouni time you can have someone in the room testifying to what they heard, especially when it's a codefendant, that's all going to be admissible testimony. that stuff's going to be able to come in against the former president and giuliani and others. >> and he's pretty aggrieved at how he feels that he was treated by other people who came and testified before at least the january

kenneth chesebro is a mixed bag for prosecutors and donald trump. and mixed bags aren't great when you bear the burden of proving your case to a unanimous jury. here's why -- chesebro is valuable to prosecutors because he gives them details. it gives life to the allegations. how did these ballots make their way from minnesota or wisconsin to washington, d.c.? that's important for prosecutors to know. it gives them leads. this is important. kenneth chesebro will never take the stand. he will never be called by a prosecutor. a line from the reporting, a crucial line from katelyn's reporting. chesebro has maintained, then and now, that the plan was a lawful move to preserve trump's legal rights. if he says that, and that apparently is his view, he's poison to prosecutors. he will be what we call a brady witness. a witness that's helpful to the defense, based on an old case called brady. he's useful investigatively. but anybody who thinks he will be the next john dean or the smoking gun witness, absolutely not. no prosecutor will call him to the stand.

kenneth chesebro, similarly, had a very short handwritten letter. at the end of the day i think this does raise questions about why the district attorney here in atlanta, fulton county, demanded that these letters be part of the plea agreements that they reached with these two defendants and two others, as well. going forward, we will also have to wait and see if that remains a condition of any other plea agreements. we do expect more of the 15 defendants who remain in this case to try to get some sort of a plea deal with prosecutors to avoid a trial. we will have to wait and see. again, not very much remorse in these letters. in some cases, just one sentence-long. >> not a whole lot of emotion in those letters. we should note, kenneth chesebro now cooperating with fake elector schemes and other states where folks may soon be facing charges. that cohen from atlanta, thank you so much. coming up, a disturbing story also out of georgia. a middle school teacher facing charges for, allegedly, threatening to behead a student. what witnesses say prompted

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sydney powell and kenneth chesebro, both handwriting ace one sentence apology on lying notebook papere citizens of the state of georgia. the pair, along with dependents scott hall and jenna alice were had to write the letters in terms of their plea agreements with fulton county prosecutors earlier this fall. that is far from the only major leap in development this, week new efforts to overturn the 2020 election. former white house chief of staff mark meadows had the is gambit to move the georgia criminal trial to a federal court. he received a chill reception on friday at the 11th circuit court of appeals. the three judge panel expressed skepticism concerning meadows claim that his efforts to subvert democracy were taken in his official capacity as the chief of staff. suffice to stay that bad news from meadows, well, should he lose this appeal, he will face trial before a state judge and jury on charges of participating in a racketeering conspiracy. meanwhile, fulton county d. a. fani willis sat down for an interview with the associated press this week where she stated that it is -- q

in the meantime, kenneth law will appeared in court this week in canada.ad not guilty, but he remains in custody. >> do investigators say anything about the motivation? is the motivation simply money making? >> reporter: that's a good question. according to the parents we spoke to, they believe it was profit oriented. he's not spoken since charged. he did indicate to media months and months ago that the substance was legal, but therefore i wasn't doing anything legal. the families do believe, twofold, it was one to make profit and the other as he felt if he was alleviated people's pain. these are second-degree murder charges, clearly police believe he had a hand in actually killing these people. >> very serious. paula newton, thanks so much. >>> if you or someone you know is struggling with their mental health or having suicidal thoughts, help is available. in the u.s. text or call 988. we'll be right back. >>> shocking, frightening scenes this weekend when an english soccer player suffered a heart attack and collapsed right on the pitch during the game. c

and here's the apology from kenneth chesebro. i apologize to the citizens of the state of georgia and of fulton county for my involvement in count 15 of the indictment. katie, your reaction? >> i think i tweeted last night that my dog has more remorseful looks than those apology letters. i mean, listen, fani willis can take them as they are. these were conditions of the plea agreements that these defendants reached. whether jenna ellis meant it or not with the crocodile tears. we'll see, maybe when push comes to shove and she's called to testify against people like donald trump at trial, but the one sentence apologies, they didn't really move the needle for me. we also know, ana, don't we, that sidney powell is still running around claiming that she was kind of bullied into taking this plea. kenneth chesebro, i will give him a little bit of credit, he is cooperaing with authorities in other states when it concerns the fake elector schemes investigated in those other states. to that end perhaps kenneth chesebro is still making ame

sydney powell and kenneth chesebro, both handwriting ace one sentence apology on lying notebook papere citizens of the state of georgia. the pair, along with dependents scott hall and jenna alice were had to write the letters in terms of their plea agreements with fulton county prosecutors earlier this fall. that is far from the only major leap in development this, week new efforts to overturn the 2020 election. former white house chief of staff mark meadows had the is gambit to move the georgia criminal trial to a federal court. he received a chill reception on friday at the 11th circuit court of appeals. the three judge panel expressed skepticism concerning meadows claim that his efforts to subvert democracy were taken in his official capacity as the chief of staff. suffice to stay that bad news from meadows, well, should he lose this appeal, he will face trial before a state judge and jury on charges of participating in a racketeering conspiracy. meanwhile, fulton county d.a. fani willis sat down for an interview with the associated press this week where she stated that it is -- qu

the wednesday's indictments include kenneth chesebro, one time attorney to donald trump, called the alleged architect of the elector scheme. joining us now is senior national political reporter for nbc news, natasha, tell us who was charged? >> the people charged are the hierarchy of the nevada republican party. you have the gop chair of the state party who's been charged now with two felony counts, michael mcdonald. we wrote about this previously, he testified in the federal grand jury with regard to election interference. also charged is the vice chairman, jim degraffenreid. and the rest of those charged are all republican party members. what's significant here and worth noting is that these same republican hierarchy is going to be running in two and a half months, running the nevada presidential primary caucuses. and they have already been accused of being in the tank for donald trump, this is going to make it a lot more difficult for them. obviously weekly. but politically to make the case that this is going to be fair caucuses they're going to be holding in just a couple of months here

>> so kenneth chesebro has some baggage.mpaign guys like matt roman and mike morgan applied to distance themselves from the big lie. they claim that after the election rudy giuliani and kenneth chesebro were running everything. but chesebro, he's like, well, if i'm going down, i'm taking everybody else with me. so that's why we're getting all these juicy details. jack smith already knows all of this. he really needs this trial to happen before election day. that's why his federal election interference case focused on the person who is most culpable, former president trump. that's why there's only one defendant and only four counts. but chesebro is an unindicted coconspiratorter in the federal election interference case. he could be charged later. that's why his attorneys are right now reaching out trying to make a deal. >> you know, reverd sharpton, i want you to listen to more of what chesebro has to say. he is talking to prosecuto again in michigan. >> he finds representative perry who gets a staffer to greet and meet us a

we have new audio of kenneth chesebro, pro-company attorney, what he says happened at an oval office meeting and what it could now mean in the federal case against donald trump. emotional testimony as women open up about sexual assault they said they faced at the coast guard academy and the treatment of they received after they reported. >> senators, my main perpetrator is currently a lieutenant commander in the coast guard. he is thriving in a career that i had hoped for. >>> just in, a brand-new rare interview with republican presidential contender nikki haley fresh off her endorsement overnight by new hampshire governor chris sununu. there was a sweet older woman who has come to a lot of events, and i saw her coming in here, and she said so, are you going to finally endorse nikki haley for president? you bet your ass i am! let's get this thing done! >> all right. cnn's dana bash just sat down with both governor haily and governor sununu for a joint interview and dana bash joins us and this is the world premiere of the interview you just did with the two governors. >> that's right.

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kenneth law has pled not guilty. he will appear in court this week in canada. obviously, heartbreaking, especially when you consider the scope of the investigation. 40 countries, more than 1,200 kits mailed. >> a heartbreaking story, especially when you consider, as you said, the network of how widespread this was. thank you, paula newton. really important. for everyone watching, if you or someone you know needs help, you can call or text 988 to reach the national suicide prevention lifeline. it's free and d confidentitial. we'l'll be rightht back. >>> the pacific coast highway in malibu is known for luxury homes and beautiful beaches. but the scenic highway also has a fatal history. 58 deaths there since 2010. the recent deaths of four students from pepperdine university in malibu have sparked calls for safety improvements. >> and a father is spearheading these efforts. camilla bernal reports. >> reporter: malibu, california, the beauty and the beaches and the celebrities. >> it looks beautiful but it doesn't sound beautiful. >> for bridget, the beauty was ta

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kenneth law has been charged with 14 counts of second degree murder and is due in court next week. paula newton has the story. >> just such a gifted kid. >> reporter: they are fathers an ocean apart. >> such a light of bravery and freedom. >> reporter: but share a bond of anguish and outrage over their children's suicides, deaths they say would have never happened if someone had not allegedly marketed and sold them so-called suicide kits online. tom died in 2021, and knoel in 2021. both died of what can be used as a meat preservative but fatal if used in larger quantities. kenneth law is now charged with 14 counts each of second degree murder and counseling and aiding suicide. police say all 14 alleged victims are in canada but the investigation continues right around the world. >> we are collaborating with law enforcement agencies on a daily basis globally from countries all over the world. >> reporter: inspector james says law may have sold more than 1200 toxic packages online intended for self harm to people in more than 40 countries. >> we ask that the public continue to be cau

when the attorney general said there was not enough to have an investigation, what happened is that kenneth chas burrow, the architect of fake electors plot in multiple states became a cooperating witness essentially to the state of georgia, he put a filing in the said he would travel to nevada, arizona perhaps and cooperate with investigations. that is not spelled out in the information. he's expected to have a news conference at 5:30 what he will talk about this and taking questions. >> the timing with kenneth chas burrow, potentially critical as you pointed out. a significant development, we know you will stay on top of it. much more news to come on cnn news central, stay with us. >>> we are back with breaking news out of nevada on the state investigation into the a collectors, we have cnn with us now. tell us what you are learning. >> we are hearing from the attorney general, the state attorney general that a grand jury has indicted six people known as fake electors. these are fake electors from 2020, you may not know their specific names but these are people who on december 14th, 2020

kenneth chesebro sharing new details about then president trump's briefing on the scheme to overturn the 2020 presidential election. >>> tonight we have new reporting on key witness testimony in the donald trump fake electors plot. cnn obtaining audio of michigan prosecutors interviewing kenneth chesebro, the lawyer who helped devise the scheme. marshall, what did chesebro tell investigators and how significant is this? >> hey, wolf, chesebro described what was a photo op gone wrong. he was in the oval office with a group of attorneys who had just unsuccessfully tried to overturn the results in that state. before they went in for this photo op, they were told do not give trump any hope about overturning the election, do not indulge this idea that he could still win. wolf, some of the people in the room followed the instruction. some didn't. let me play the first clip of chesebro describing what the lead attorney in wisconsin told the president about that state. >> it's clear that he personally told the president there was zero hope for wisconsin as part of his message i think crafted

kenneth law has been charged with 14 counts of second-degree murder and is due in court next week.nn's paula newton has the story. >> it's such a gift. >> reporter: they are fathers an ocean apart. >> such a -- such a light of bravery and freedom. >> reporter: but share a bond of anguish and outrage over their children's suicides, deaths they say would have never happened if someone had not allegedly marketed and sold them so-called suicide kits online. tom parfit died in in 2021 in england, noel ramirez in 2022 in colorado. both died using a substance legally found in smaller doses as a meat preservative but can be fatal if used in larger quantities. canadian kenneth law is now charged in ontario with 14 counts each of second-degree murder and counseling and aiding suicide. police say all 14 alleged victims are in canada, but the investigation continues right around the world. >> we are collaborating with law enforcement agencies on a daily basis globally, from countries all over the world. >> reporter: inspector james says law may have sold more than 1,200 toxic packages online,

. >>> up next, audio of kenneth c che chesebro speaking with michigan lawmaker. >>> and the u.s. federal reserve may have just given the american public a major holiday gift. why an announcement from the fed chairman sent the stock markets soaring. first time i connected with kim, she told me that her husband had passed. and that he took care of all of the internet connected devices in the home. i told her, “i'm here to take care of you.” connecting with kim... made me reconnect with my mom. it's very important to keep loved ones close. we know that creating memories with loved ones brings so much joy to your life. a family trip to the team usa training facility. i don't know how to thank you. i'm here to thank you. >>> we're hearing a dramatic account about what happened inside a december 2022 oval office meeting from a former attorney for donald trump. kenneth chesebro sat down for an interview last week with michigan state prosecutors investigating the fake electors plot. and cnn has now exclusively obtained audio of that interview. the lawyers in that 2021 0 meetg were told n

he had a wide ideology hit jon kenneth was a guest he did not have nearly conservative or libertariantried get another leading liberal at the time. he tried to have a wide range of views. he thought following jon stuart knowledge and truth are furthered he recognized people are imperfect to make the best decisions you can. >> spew atlantic what we are interactions with milton and rose freedman like? >> i will tell you i really benefited with my interactions with melted and rose freedman paid the first time i went to freedman i knocked on the door i set up an appointment one is writing a book i would been a colleague of his at the university of chicago for i asked him if i could interview him he said sure, come on out. the first thing i ask freedman was do you mind if i take the conversation and he said to me and i remember to this day, i've ate single rule what i says to one person i say to everyone. i never say anything off the record but that is the principle if you can live that is a moral principle. i said that greatly influenced me. had an incredibly warm person it was the agreed

come off, kenneth koch was the idea. we don't know right now and to what extent has belie is ready to join in. certainly those have the military capabilities and to what extent are you ran would approve of such actions because that would risk losing a lot of it has bloss capabilities. if the war spills over. so right now we're seeing distractions there on the nose and border from hezbollah side. but also as it boots in the region, such as the many who these have pledge to target is riley or any shambles. and the red sea that go to israel because there is not enough committed here in a being delivered to the gaza strip. and we also have groups like ok, they are pledging to kill americans, threats and israel is all across the world. so it seems like all of these were islands known, land state actors, are throwing their support behind hallmarks, even if they id already paid ideologically. don't always agree with a group my remember on that. thank you very much. thank you for having me. germany's johnson of shots has restate

it has, the law has stated that it would consider joining the fight when it sees they'll come off. kenneth koch was the idea. we don't know right now and to what extent has belie is ready to join, and certainly those have the military capabilities. and to what extent are your brand would approve of such actions? because that would risk losing a lot of it has the last capabilities. if the war spills over. so right now we're seeing distractions there on the nose and border from hezbollah side, but also as a boots in the region, such as the many who these have pledge to target is riley or any chevrons. and the red sea that go to israel because there is not enough few minutes here in a being delivered to the gaza strip. and we also have groups like ok, it are pledging to kill americans, threats and israel is all across the world. so it seems like all of these were islands nouns, non state actors, as throwing their support behind homeless, even if they id all ej a ideologically, don't always agree with a group. my remember on that, thank you very much. thank you for having me. time out to of lo

state here to cuba, wrote that together with ambassador litvinov. correspondent tas is really coming kennethreau of the soviet news agency. however , tas himself records in his archive that special correspondent tas moved to havana with litvinov not from new york, but from washington. and it was not kalit durant, but a certain dos santos, who did not return from havana; it seems that, under the guise of tasovets, he worked for another organization, that is, for intelligence. here is your answer to what communication channels existed. well, we are in gavad for the last time today, we will look into that very district of vedado, remember this word from mayakovsky, it is located right here the very hotelnal, where the soviet ambassador litvinov gave his first press conference. absolutely, here, because in the photo from that press conference, look at this candelabra, here it is, at the press conference, at the press conference ledvinov said that the ussr would appreciate any help from cuba, for example, in the form of food supplies . smoky gunpowder contains nitrocellulose and nitrates, we came

i think we can presuppose nevada has that and perhaps it came from kenneth chesebro from georgia. they've got a tough road ahead of them, these prosecutors, but presumably, they wouldn't have brought these charges unless they thought they could walk in. >> good point. jamie, how much do these indictments actually worry trump? >> so, you never know with trump what really worries him, but they should worry him. even though he is not named in this case the way he was in georgia. additional charges conceivably could be brought, but i think there's another reason for him to worry. kennet ken kenne kenneth chesebro is a critical witness and he's going state to state given evidence. also, what does this mean in the federal case with jack smith where trump is the one named person, wolf. >> good point. paula, as we know, georgia prosecutors have now gone ahead and officially listed former vice president mike pence and several other key former trump administration officials as possible witnesses in that case. tell us a little bit about that. >> this witness list is not public but our collea

. >> we also, this hour, have new exclusive reporting, kenneth chesebro, he pleaded guilty in georgia, now he is cooperating, helping investigators in at least four other states, more on that in a moment. first, though, let's go to our senior legal analyst elie honig with more, walk us through this indictment and what stands out to you. >> the stakes are so much higher now for hunter biden. now, you may recall that back in july hunter biden walked into a federal courtroom expecting to plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors with a probation sentence attached. that deal fell apart at the last minute. now let's look at how things have changed. now hunter biden is looking at nine separate charges, tax evasion, tax fraud, and non-payment of taxes and really importantly, these two, there's one count of evasion, two counts of fraud, these are felonies now, much more serious. tax evasion carries a max sentence of five years, fraud carries a max sentence of three years, nobody gets the max but much more serious than before. now, if we look at the indictment, this alleges a scheme covering four y

so marshal, we're talking about kenneth chesebro, the wisconsin attorney. what happened in his interview with prosecutors and in the oval office? >> reporter: he told prosecutors about a photo-op gone wrong in the oval office in december 2020. go back to that hectic time. at that moment, trump's team in wisconsin had just lost their election challenge, and the lawyers who led that case were in d.c. for a meet and greet with their client. before they walked into the oval office, they were told do not give him false hope, do not indulge the conspiracies about the election. some of them listened, some of them didn't. here is a clip from ken chesebro what the lead attorney in wisconsin told donald trump. >> it is clear that troops personally told the president there was zero hope in wisconsin. as part of this message, i think trying to get him to concede, give up this long shot challenge. so there was a conscious effort to deflect him from a sense of any possibility that he could pull out the election. >> zero hope. that's what he said. so, look, some people ar

when it comes to john kenneth galbraith or john maynard keynes, he didn't consider them to be merelynegative as a full-fledged socialist or communist system in this sense in the means of economic production. in the case of keynes, friedman's opposition was mostly to the idea that in an advanced capitalist economy there tended to be over saving. the marginal propensity became economically more advanced and therefore you could have an economic equilibrium and less than full production and employment and therefore the government had to borrow excess funds from the private sector engaged in deficit spending in order to maintain full economic activity. there are vast sources of excess saving. together it doesn't borrow money from the private sector. it's going to have to spend that money so the keynesian economic theory in the activity and in general so he was opposed to that. galbraith was probably the most well-known economist popularly. friedman by no means thought that he was a socialist or communist. maybe they hedged a little bit of direction of socialism but his main concern was th

first is kenneth chesebro, coming back to, maybe, haunt the former president. remember who he is. he's the ex-pro trump lawyer who claimed to fame was helping to cook up the fake electors plot, and pleaded guilty. remember that? down in georgia? to one count of conspiracy in the election interference case. now, he is talking to people -- investigative, not just in georgia, but in michigan, in nevada, and wisconsin, as well, of course, as georgia. now, if you are in a kind of old time gangster movie, you could say he -- like a canary. just listen to this exclusive audio of what he told michigan prosecutors about a photo op gone wrong, and the oval office way back in december of 2020. >> ended up explaining that arizona was still hypothetically possible because -- so it is, i think, clear in a way that maybe it hadn't been before then, we had -- to win. and that created a real problem. >> i think it was a real problem. absolutely. he told trump how he could still win, and explain how a so-called alternate elector that he helped to assemble in places like arizona and six other states

and kenneth chesebro comes up with ways that they lost election fraud. i defer to andrew here.t is clear to me, clearly, donald trump seized on this fraud lent scheme to overturn the election. and then acted on it between that meeting and january 2nd. and one of the tells is that reince priebus who, of course, was former chief of staff to donald trump but also former chairman to the wisconsin republican party. he hears about this conversation, apparently was so alarmed what went on in that meeting. he told me, don't tell anybody, we cannot let this news get out, because he thought something dangerous and potentially illegal, i'm assuming, happened in the oval office involving the president of the united states. so, the fact that a legalist like reince priebus do that clearly knew what the election was, for example, with the fake electors in wisconsin is basically sending up flares saying we have to keep this a complete secret, don't talk about it, i think suggests that perhaps this is significant. and there was a real consciousness that something had happened in that meeting wi

i want to get your take on this new reporting from cnn about from kenneth chesebro. it really gives us more robust understanding of this scheme and the trump campaign's involvement in it. we know he's cooperating. this is also a window into that cooperation. karen, how damaging do you think this new information is to donald trump? >> so that's an interesting question, right? donald trump is going to always say well just because everybody else was scrambling and my lawyers, they told me i could do this, right? that is how he will try to push this off and blame others. but i think this scramble to get these fake elector ballot, the fact they were going to go to such great lengths to charter a plane if they had to to get this to mike pence. it just really dwgoes to show t desperation and what was going on at the time around this. but i think it's interesting that jack smith has not taken ken chesebro up on his request to cooperate with him and that he doesn't seem to be interested to hear what he has to say and if you remember, ken chesebro's apology letter in georgia,

kenneth chesebro admitted he worked with trump and other members of his inner circle to overturn theection by putting forward slates of fake republican electors in multiple states that trump lost. we should've known chesebro was behind it all when the electors were named rick cotta, bibi gouda, monty rayjack, and brie larson. now. that was worth it, baby. that one was worth it. that's a brie larson. now, chesebro and powell are set to testify against trump and reportedly that has shattered any sense of invincibility that the former president may be feeling. i would love to see that and be there for that realization. "wait a second. you're saying i'm not invincible? so you can see me right now? and you know that i'm in the women's locker room?" [cheering] of course, trump kept calm and freaked out on truth social this weekend, claiming, "ms. powell was not my attorney and never was." that is a bold claim. since he previously tweeted that she was one of his attorneys. plus, there is a lot of footage of her with rudy giuliani, seen here mid-leak. and no one stands in the giuliani splash

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to conduct after the election, rudy giuliani and kenneth chesebro were running everything.going down, i am taking everybody else with me. that's why we are getting all of these juicy details. jack smith already knows all of this. he really needs this trial to have a full election day. that's why his federal election interference case where he was most accountable, former president trump. that's why he -- chesebro is an unindicted coconspirator in the federal election interference case. he could be charged later, that's why he's attorneys right now are reaching out trying make it do. >> you know, reverend sharpton, i want you to sten to more of what chesebro has to say. he is talking to prosecutors ag michigan. >> he finds representative perry or whoever it w, a pennsylvania, who gets a affer degree and mia said 2:45 pm. i don't know why, why we did that. mikerown -- the wisconsin stuff, mike we walked the longworthtuff ofuildg. euy with perry or whatever his name was and some other fellow. they were like, staff of the house. to walk them over to the senate, and give it to a

departure of litvinov’s delegation from the states here to cuba, wrote that a tas correspondent, a certain kennethk bureau of the soviet news agency, was indeed traveling with ambassador litvinov, however in tas itself, in its archive it is recorded that special correspondent tas went to havana with litvinov not from new york, but from washington, and it was not keneth durant, but a certain dos santos, who apparently did not return from havana. at a press conference, letvinov said that the ussr would appreciate any help from cuba, for example, in the form of food supplies for the soldiers of the red army, but he attributed full-fledged soviet-akuba trade to after the war, it turned out to be pravinsky, although we have already found out that let indirectly, even through the usa for cuban goods, for example nickel was already sent to the ussr, and as for cuban sugar, let’s return to the question of whether alcohol was made from cuban sugar, which in turn was used to make gunpowder for the unexploded soviet bullet, which we found in the steppes near volgograd, and now to the laboratory of the volgog

all of this hinging on kenneth chesebro. what more have you learned here?> he is a lawyer who wasn't talking. we didn't hear his story until now. what happened was he was very close lipped about what happened with the fake electors, how they came together, how the trump campaign was supporting them, what they were doing to try to block transfer of power. he pleaded guilty, started talking to prosecutors and talked to prosecutors in michigan of which we at cnn were able to obtain the audio, also able to see some emails he was on at the very ends of the push to get the fake electors and that is where this story focuses. it is about how right before january 6th, january 4th, into the late hours of that night, january 5th, there was a very big concern of chesebro as well as a lawyer with the trump campaign and another man work with the trump campaign and them, they were afraid that the ballots weren't going to make it into the hands of mike pence on time to support donald trump and so they considered chartering flight. they talked about that. they ultimately pu

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in related news, cnn has published recordings of former trump attorney kenneth chesebro revealing trump was told about the fake electors scheme to keep him in office and informed by lawyer jim troupis that he had lost the state of wisconsin. the revelations come as part of interviews with michigan state prosecutors. >> personally told president there was zero hope in wisconsin. [indiscernible] there was a conscious effort to deflect from any possibility he could co-opt the election. amy: kenneth chesebro, who has been dubbed the architect of the false electors plot, is cooperating with investigations in michigan, wisconsin, arizona, and nevada. in october, he pleaded guilty in georgia's sweeping election subversion case. house republicans approved a resolution authorizing an impeachment inquiry into president biden. republicans accuse biden of abusing his position to advance his family's business interests. a probe into the allegations has not returned any evidence. democratic congress member jamie raskin, ranking member of the house committee on oversight and accountability, said -- "e

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kenneth williams is the ceo he says the hospital can no longer afford the unit, or any in-patient care, for that matter. all of this used to service people that really needed help and now it's totally empty. >> it's empty. it's gone. and it died the last few years with medicare advantage >> reporter: medicare advantage is a private alternative to traditional medicare pitched by celebrity spokesmen like joe namath. >> medicare advantage plans have added new benefits. >> reporter: 31 million people are on the plans, which are often cheaper than medicare supplements and promise better benefits and lower premiums but the ceos of rural hospital systems in six states tell nbc news medicare advantage routinely denies reimbursements for necessary care >> 2006, we went from being well in the black to losing $1.7 million. >> reporter: overnight? >> overnight medicare advantage and all of the sudden, we went from smiling to crying. and nothing changed other than that. >> reporter: one government report found the top advantage plans denied payment for nearly one in five claims that met medicare ru