federal agency rent payments are used to maintain buildings. but the bad news is, for the last 12 years, on average, roughly $1 billion from that fund has been used for other agencies. as gao noted in the september report, the largest impediment to improving the building utilization is lack of funding. bottom line? we have missed opportunities to shrink a real estate portfolio, because we have not had the upfront money to be configured and modernize facilities that we plan to keep, even though we know that those investments will pay back many times over through lower real estate costs. this is an important moment for the american people to reap billions of dollars in future savings. it can only happen if we work together. that is why we are asking congress for a fix for the federal buildings fund appeared to ensure that the rent we collect is reinvested in our public buildings and saving taxpayer money. now, gsa works to make it easier, faster, and cheaper to buy the goods and services our federal agency partners need. purchasing decisions are

of the federal government and an effort to make telework the norm in the federal agencies. gsa's ground zero regarding office space and how much uses. in washington d.c. where most headquarters are located under 1 million square feet of office space they occupy according to government accountability buildings operating at 5% or less. the average of nine the capacity and the biden administration doesn't want to know or understand whether employees are coming in, we asked the director they were going to the office. simple question -- did know. we have asked each of them directly. the building occupancy data speaks volumes. microfracture the activity on his and used the nation hundreds of millions of initially solo of the for more terminating on the office space leases from our billing dollars. federal space is an issue prior to the pandemic property management has been a high-risk list but it's one that is simply too big and too costly to ignore. the bottom line is this, the button image can have both ways at taxpayers expense. you bring employees back to work to improve prod

all these federal agencies that are legislating for the country. it is really a very serious problem because the balance in our system of three branches is a very delicate one. to introduce a third branch -- sorry, a fourth branch, introduces a level of instability and unaccountability that troubles many. >> bill: they have been trying to back this thing off for some time going back to the chevron case. questions about john roberts and bret kavanaugh and amy coney barrett, new to the court. how do you think they come down? >> that's right. as you note, some of the justices have been writing the epitaph chevron for years. gorsuch has written on this issue before he went to the court. the question will be institutionalists like john roberts tends to get sticker shock with sweeping decisions of this kind particularly affecting the government's authority. so we're not sure how they will play out in this. it may be they further curtail chevron. in the last few years the court has been tacking back a little for chevron. many of the advocates want to see

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they submit these assessments to federal agencies. recommending countermeasures like security cameras, access, control systems, and x-ray screening equipment. these tools make it easier to protect these facilities and the americans who use them every day. unfortunately, these recommendations are rarely implemented. from 2017 to 2021, fps submitted over 25,000 of these reports. federal agencies completely ignored roughly half of those. when agencies did it knowledge the recommendations, they only approved 20% -- 27% of the recommended measures. factors like cost and bureaucratic hurdles often make it easier to maintain current systems. in other words, we are getting very useful information about how to improve security but it is not being implemented. to the extent that it should be. today's hearing and our panel of witnesses will help us evaluate this problem. our discussion today will also build on the executive order released on monday by the white house, which clarifies the role of the interagency security committee. and helps us u

federal agencies completely ignored roughly half of those. what agencies didn't acknowledging the recommendations, the only approved 27% of the recommended security measures. factors like cost and bureaucratic hurdles often make it easier to maintain current systems. in other words, we are getting very useful information about how to improve security, but it's not being implemented to the extent that it should be. today's hearing and our panel of witnesses will help us evaluate this problem. our discussion today will also build on the executive order released on monday by the white house, which clarifies the role of the interagency security committee and helps us update interagency roles and responsibilities to keep these facilities safe. we will examine the landscape of current threats and ways we can improve the assessment process and how to make federal agencies more responsive when they receive recommendations. if we improve this process we can make our federal facilities safer and more secure, and i look forward to this conversation. >>

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highway administration, one of those federal agencies is saying, it's distracting. >> yeah. i think it is distracting. and i think there is many studies to support that. and i think, you know, america has a terrible problem with deaths on the road. and if these messages aren't doing what they're meant to do, to save lives, if they're actually distrakt drivers and causing accidents, then i'm a nay. very, very firm. >> okay. let's huddle up for this next one. california lawmakers proposing a ban on youth tackle football. they say it puts kids at greater risk of brain injury, while the other side argues, it should be up to parents, not the state to decide, if their kids can play. governor gavin newsom said he would veto a ban and side with parents. who should make the call on kids under 12 playing tackle football? >> only gavin newsom. i complete with him completely. i didn't let my kids play tackle football. they played touch football. i paid attention to the statistics. i think they should have the statistic out there for parents to understand which i think the football indus

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>> are the federal agencies reluctant to give up office space? >> so congressman, i would like to talk a little bit about what we're doing right now. if you give me a minute to begin the disposal process. last week we got the disposal process. that will be 3.5 million square feet of reduction. and get this. it's a billion dollars in cost avoidance than deferred maintenance and other things not even counting -- >> is president biden pushing to close properties. >> we're working with the federal government to determine. >> the american people are fed up with the wasteful spending. it isn't just federal space. recently found federal agencies spent $15 million on furniture over the last few years. apparently, furnished space left empty under telewor k . can you explain why the purchase of office furniture continued unabated. >> the government did not close down. agencies were continuing to work, courthouses continued to operate. prisons continued operating. lots of businesses were in offices. i personally visited des moines throughout the pandemic. t

>> that is correct. >> so, federal agencies are tantamount to being your client? >> yes, sir, we collaborate with them. >> right. and you try to make happy clients, presumably? >> yes, we work on that very hard. >> would it be fair to say that the if guy is not a happy client right now? >> we will see how happy or unhappy they are, but yes, i have received letters from the director that indicate he is unsatisfied. >> let's stipulate you have got an unhappy client right now, and let's probe why. so before revisions were made to criteria that had been established and in july of this year, is that correct? >> yes. >> and what happened was you changed the weighting of those criteria. which i will editorialize certainly seems to favor one party over another, but you changed the weighting is that correct? >> so i'm-- >> that is a pretty simple-- you changed the weighting that existed previously to something different in july. >> we did. >> and at that time you replaced a career civil servant who was overseeing the expert panel of three, with a political appointee is tha

they conduct investigations on almost every federal agency including almost as many investigations as zero awp. it also seems to get results. in 2022 they negotiated actions with agencies and a 12.5% of the prohibited personnel practice cases. by contrast they only recommended discipline and 3.4% of the cases. i know they have somewhat different missions in decades to work out the kinks i'm left wondering if the juice is worth the squeeze. the budget request is $30 million only 4 million less than osc. last congress the committee decided some of the 30 million could be better spent in other ways that protect veterans and whistleblowers. i look forward to examining whether it is money well spent to build a better va and eager to learn about how they are working to ensure all whistleblowers are heard, protected and npower to to speak out free of retaliation. i appreciate the witnesses being here to share their expertise and look forward to the discussions this morning. with that i recognize the ranking member for his opening comments. >> thank you. i appreciate you holding the hearing t

federal agencies are run by experts, all of whom are aggression ali approved.,000 laws, standards, and protections upon which we rely today were arrived at based on agency deference. for example, the epa, or the environmental protection agency, makes decisions on human health and the environment. and congress may leave certain aspects or parameters of the law for the epa to determine. that is, when congress agrees that okay, sure. we should have clean air, or a clean water, but doesn't specify how exactly we should get clean air or clean water. then, it will defer to these agencies, like the epa, and the environmental scientists and the experts who work for that agency to determine the laws and guidelines for how we can get to that goal. now, these agencies, among other functions, are the regulatory bodies upon which we rely in nearly every aspect of our daily lives. the environmental protection agency regulates pollutants, the department of transportation comes apostates the standards for cars and highways. the u.s. department of agriculture makes sure our foo

larry: and, shannon, a lot of people are saying, look, federal regulatory agencies can't act withouta v. the epa and so forth. is this similar to that? >> you do look at that, because when a statute is challenged or a regulation is challenged and it winds up in court, they do look to see, hey, did congress specifically say that this agency can do this thing? it's not as ambiguous, then generally there has been this chevron deference to the federal agencies saying it's ambiguous. several justices today said why wouldn't we leave this to experts? wouldn't you rather have decisions made by, say, a medication, wouldn't you rather have hhs or the fda handle something like that versus this question going to judges who don't have a medical background? again, it gets to how much power these agencies have. larry: all right. we appreciate it very much. folks, shannon bream. you've got to see her, "fox news sunday," every -- larry: well, apparently the white house meeting on the catastrophe at the border and the ukraine funding, nothing happened. that's what we gather. much more to be revealed.

osc conducts investigations on every federal agency including almost as many investigations as oawp. osc also seemed to get results. in 2022 to negotiate favorable actions with agents these in 12.5% of prohibited personnel practice cases. by contrast oawp only recommend discipline and 3.4% of the cases. i know that osc and oawp have somewhat different missions and transects 17 -- osc can work out the kinks. i'm still wondering if juices were at the squeeze. oawp's budget request is $30 million, only for million dollars less than osc's. last congress they decided some of this could be better spent by osc or other ways that protect veterans and whistleblowers. i look forward to examining whether it is money well spent to build a better va. i am also eager to learn about how va is working to ensure that all whistleblowers are hurt, protected and empowered to speak out without retaliation. i appreciate our witnesses being here to share their expertise on whistleblower protections i'm looking forward to our discussion this morning. with that, i now recognize ranking member moran for his o

if an executive branch can change all of these decisions through federal agencies, it leads to instability. here's a bit of what he said. >> the reality of how this works is chevron itself ushers in shocks to the system every four or eight years when a new administration comes in. >> and you want to give businesses and everyday americans stability about what these regulations mean to their lives. so we'll get a decision by the end of june here at the supreme court. meantime, they are handling a lot of other things that they have to nail down like whether states can kick president trump off of their ballots. so a busy time here at the court, martha. >> martha: they're very busy with election issues. this one appears to be much more in their wheel house in terms of how the constitution protects americans and the businesses that they run and all of that. shannon, very interesting case. thanks so much. so a story exclusive now with megan lapp, a fishery liaison for one of the companies at the heart of the case and mark chenoweth. he's a chief legal officer at the new civil liberties alliance.

second, these enable federal agencies to officially resolve enforcement actions.n many of the kinds of cases from which these types of settlements arise, litigation is complex, expensive, and time consuming. it could take the government years to hold wrongdoers able if they are unable to reach a settlement. justice delayed is justice denied. these settlements save the taxpayers millions of dollars in litigation costs. boosting the value of the set element to the u.s. treasury beyond the list of dollar figure while at the same time providing more immediate-relief for corporate law breaking. this is a simply tired attempt by the majority to paint the constitutional veneer upon their unpopular anti-regulatory agenda, which includes enacting legislation that will undermine critical financial, environmental, public health and safety protections for the american public. this anti-regulatory bill is a solution in search of a problem. did he signed to serve deep pocketed corporate interests at the american people's expense. it is a shame the house republicans have chosen

third, we stand as a partner with other federal agencies in congress in upholding the merit system. one noteworthy aspect of our role is the high degree of whistleblower involvement in our process. we rely on information given by the whistleblower to determine which agency should engage. we make every effort to respond quickly to those concerns. osc's disclosure unit decides whether an investigation is required within 45 days in virtually every case. if the allegations were not further inquiry at the special counsel will refer the case to the agency who must investigate and provide a report to our office. osc then gives the whistleblower an opportunity to provide comments on the reports. after taking the whistleblower's input into account, the special counsel determines if the results are reasonable. osc decides that determination if the report itself and the whistleblower comments are applicable to the president and congress. they can also file a complaint if they believe they have been subject to was a blower retaliation. osc's handling in these cases differs from our disclosure w

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how much does gsa spend annually to maintain and operate office space for federal agencies? >> thanks for that question, congresswoman. we talked about this a little bit in the first session. we have a federal buildings fund is were agencies that have space in buildings or have leased space pay rent effectively. and so that amount every year is around more or less $11 billion. >> 11 billion? >> and that's just rental payments. that's different than your question, which was about how much we spend -- >> maintained. >> right. so what happens is that federal buildings fund actually in short it every year in what we are allowed to spend. so typically what will happen about half of our portfolio is least and half is owned. and so for the least portion that rent just really goes out the door and pays the owner of the building. whatever security the building is in. the other half is meant to go back into maintenance of the buildings. what's happened over the last 12 years is that portion has been basically siphoned off to pay for other things. >> okay. >> so that's why we haven't b

equities from multiple federal agencies.his increasingly interconnected world it is imperative the federal government speak with one voice. that's the right agency to deliver that message. thankfully the subcommittee has been active in providing the agency with new tools while continuing our vital oversight role. back in july this subcommittee marked up the reauthorization act. congress is not reauthorized and ci a1992 and i believe the bill we have drafted is needed. with the bipartisan aim the authorization acts we provide authority to ensure agencies can fulfill its mission. that means elevating the administrator and assistant to understand. to reflect the challenges of the day and the opportunities of tomorrow. i am also glad it includes my coexistence acts. this language would require an cia to conduct a review of federal receiver technology to support more intensive use of spectrum. the sec exploring receiver performance for commercial equipment it's important that we do the same for federal. the bill also includes a s

federal agencies scattered all over and washington is the center of the activity.im started at the library of' congress the biggest and mot important library in america set up originally for all the people. documents and records of the government and copies of most books and magazines published in the united states. but the one thing we wanted to see was in a glass case near the front of the building. the foundation of all the powers and laws of our government. we couldn't really have a form of government without it. the original constitution of the united states of america. provides for a government with three main branches each with special functions uncle jim says, this is how they work. the constitution provides that the law shall be made by the legislative branch. carried out by the executive branch and interpreted by a third branch of the government the judicial branch to make certain no law violates the constitution. legislative executive judicial these are the three main branches of our federal government now bill. let's go take a look at one of them. well,

rule or regulation is silent, courts must defer to the federal agency. meaning that unelected government bureaucrats are the ones making decisions about micromanaging various aspects of american life, including iconic industries like the fishing industry. >> john: what's going on just down the street then? in the supreme court? >> kerri: the supreme court, thinking -- a lot going on there, john. congress, are we talking about congress, or the supreme court. so arguments are still going on, which is remarkable, they started at 10:00, very long arguments for the supreme court and i'm hearing some heavy duty questioning from justices gorsuch and kavanaugh, and said people in the agencies are experts, they are in the best suited position to make these decisions. justice kavanaugh said it's a shock to the system. every 48 years, with new administration's, issuing new rules, so this hamstrings businesses from being able to do a lot. the rules are changing constantly, having to pay for their own monitors, which severely cuts into their profits, and really the l

these regulations just fine on their own, without any input from federal agencies.or many years now, almost 40 of them since this case was decided in 1984, it has upended the balance of power between the branches. it has put a lot of onus on small businesses like these fishermen and others to defend themselves against federal agencies when they have a hard time winning there. this case was supported not just by these small fishing industries but a number of very large conservative legal foundations, groups like the gun owners of america, a trade group for e-cigarette manufacturers and others, just showing how sweeping this case could be if the supreme court decides to overrule that precedent from years ago. william: let's talk about that, because the opponents of overturning chevron, many environmental groups, consumer protection groups and others, argue that this would in essence sow chaos. why do they say chevron should stay? carrie: they basically argue there is a hidden agenda in this case beyond the herring fishermen, who are the plaintiffs. that is they want t

to examples are the veterans administration and the federal security agency. i probably don't need to tell you that the president is also commander in chief of the armed forces. this is a heavy responsibility for congress gives him the power of making many military decisions in conducting a war. finally, it's the president's duty to record needed. he usually does this in an annual message to a joint session of congress. well the next stop in our tour was the supreme court building. this is where they decide whether our laws follow the meaning of the constitution. uncle jim told me to notice the inscription over the entrance equal justice under law. he said that this pretty well sums up the purpose of the supreme court then he went on to explain what it meant. the supreme court is the judicial branch of the federal government here. the law itself is on trial. it is judged according to whether it violates our constitutional rights. the court is composed of nine justices who hold office for life members are nominated by the president, but their appointments must

could do this, if not, if it is am b ambiguous there is a chevron deference to the federal agency.rts, would you rather have decisions made about a medication, that has to go through federal approval, the fda handle that versus, this question to judges who don't have a medical background. larry: we appreciate it very much. shannon bream, you have to her fox news sunday, two p.m. eastern. fresh, warm hot dogs, straight out of my torso! one for you, one for you. oh, you're a messy one. cool, right? so cool. anyone can become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq, a fund that gives you access to nasdaq-100 innovations. hot dogs! fresh, warm hot dogs! before investing carefully read and consider fund investment objectives, risks, charges, expenses and more in prospectus at invesco.com. ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well. ♪ ♪ jardiance ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell. ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance, ♪ ♪ at each day's staaart. ♪ ♪ as time went on it was easy to seee. ♪ ♪ i'm lowering my a1c. ♪ jardiance works 24/7 in your body to flush out some sugar! and f

overturning a 40-year precedent, which lets federal agencies create regulations to make up for ambiguousssed by congress. >> chevron mandates judicial bias and encourages overreach. >> reporter: an argument some justices seemed to agree with. >> the government always wins. chevron is exploited against the individual and in favor of the government. >> reporter: but liberals on the court are skeptical. >> my concern is that if we take away something like had chevron, the court will then suddenly become a policymaker. judges should know what they don't know. >> why do conservatives generally hate federal agents? >> we don't like big overreaching governments, but i don't think this is the right frame for all this. do you want me to make a prediction, they are going to overrule chevron. second of all, one of the ironies, one of the ironies of this is that chevron, which was in some ways the brain child of scalia and this related thing was the brain child of justice thomas. conservative justices have realized they made a mistake in setting the regime. the question isn't as the justices was say

no more funding these federal agencies that get turned against the people.more funding a corrupt department of justice if we lawf the election interference business. we have to be willing to say no and stop these budgetary woes and young people more and more are seeing it. in that group of people that are 30 to 49, that parenting age, more are coming to our political position because they don't want to coparent with the government at the schools. i am seeing folks in these blue states that are starting to really align with our vision because they don't want to live in a world where your pansexual third grade teacher is telling your child to reorient their gender. i can't believe i have to say that in polite company, but it is increasingly with the other side is bringing to bear. president trump has a vision for our federal agencies where they are slimmed down, not making every decision in washington dc. then, if it is our state boards of education, our local scoreboards where we have seen moms and dads stepped forward to serve in meaningful ways, then we hav

what tools should we consider to consider federal agencies are considering the use of spending? because thank you for the question, it's incredibly valuable and scarce resource, making sure that we are all using it carefully is extremely important. i think congress can help in many ways, doing what it has been doing, to make sure we are using it spectrum wide, and continue to to push spectrum wide legislation,ha to among other things, authorizing the ability of the fcc to do spectrum auctions, with the spectrum authority. with that fund, some of the other ones that are the toolkit, we will help make sure we all have the right incentive to use it wisely to reallocate it and the pace of it in the right place. >> thank you. in your experience, federal uses, asked to -- when the ntia is utilized for spectrum use? >>t the ones that are making i so valuable for the private sector also make it quite valuable for the public sector.. it did not surprise anybody that federal spectrum users feel that their use of the spectrum is quite important. and those missions are incredibly valuable,

equities from multiple federal agencies. this increasingly interconnected world it is imperative the federal government speak with one voice. that's the right agency to deliver that message. thankfully the subcommittee has been active in providing the agency with new tools while continuing our vital oversight role. back in july this subcommittee marked up the reauthorization act. congress is not reauthorized and ci a1992 and i believe the bill we have drafted is needed. with the bipartisan aim the authorization acts we provide authority to ensure agencies can fulfill its mission. that means elevating the administrator and assistant to understand. to reflect the challenges of the day and the opportunities of tomorrow. i am also glad it includes my coexistence acts. this language would require an cia to conduct a review of federal receiver technology to support more intensive use of spectrum. the sec exploring receiver performance for commercial equipment it's important that we do the same for federal. the bill also includes a

we have worked collegially with our brethren and other federal agencies to make sure and the presidential memorandum that came out is critical documents because they show it could make it clear how we are going to examine spectrum going forward, where we are going to look for those opportunities, and it's a gift in tia the place to help the process to lead of the studies. >> okay. and you mentioned the memorandum on spectrum that requires an tia to solicit use on the spectrum matters of other federal agencies to ensure they are adequately represented. what steps are you personally taking to build trust among other federal agencies to ensure they are involved in in these process reforms? and if you could expand on that, i guess we've got a few seconds. >> sure. it's an incredibly important question because we need to work with, like i say, in many cases these missions are important. aviation safety, the weather. we want to make sure, but we also know we have to be more efficient about how we use spectrum. we have worked quite closely and it's shuttle diplomacy it's sitting down with the ag

these will lead to more efficient deployments like working with federal agencies to streamline their processes and prioritize broadband permitting applications. our providers will be able to focus on employment instead of navigating a maze of red tape. finally i want to acknowledge the national spec from strategy and presidential memorandums released last month by the administration. although this is a good first step we want to be identifying spectrum pipeline to maintain u.s. wireless leadership. we share your goal of restoring the regular order process for managing spectrum including ntia's role leading this effort as far as the executive branch. however, we expect that you and other agencies will be responsible to our request in a timely manner, which has not been the case recently on certain spectrum matters pending before this administration. again, mr. davidson, thank you very much for appearing before us today and i look forward to the discussion we will have. and that is time i will now yield to the ranking member of the subcommittee, the gentle lady from the seventh distric

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how much is spent annually to maintain office space for federal agencies? >> thank you for that, congresswoman, we talked about this in the first session. we have the federal buildings fund we are agencies that have space in buildings or leased space pay rent, effectively. that amount is around $11 billion. >> $11 billion? >> that is rental payments. that is different from your question. about how much we spent right, what happens is that it is shortened every year and what we are allowed to spend. typically what will happen, half of the portfolio is leased and half is owned. for the least portion, that rent goes out the door and pays the owner of the building. and the other half is meant to go back into the maintenance of the building. what has happened over the last 12 years, that portion has been siphoned off for two pay for other things. that is why we have not been able to reinvest in buildings as much as people think. >> that is not my issue. 17% of the headquarters are only 25% occupied, we would find substantial savings by downsizing office space. d

federal agencies geared toward law enforcement better equipped to deal with scams. i do think senator a.i. graduate fraud goes across multiple jurisdictions so there is a need to increase a.i. readiness and the federal government, folks who can identify these issues and use a.i. in terms of your first question -- what was it? >> gordy inserted, a.i. for good and bad in the second was federal agencies have enough power to address the problem. >> in both scenarios, you can use it for good and bad. the consideration around a.i. and detect fraud is a growing concern, do you invest in the a.i. system or the workforce individuals with expertise to identify themselves? as it continues to be expanded and adopted, were going to look at a cap for entry-level law enforcement folks and folks looking at the systems long-term so there needs to be a consideration around how you train beyond using a.i. to identify these issues because curating value over time, these are used to detect fraud, they need constant source of data to i only have a minute toend so. answer the other questi

as i'm sure you're aware, the accountability office demonstrated that 7 federal agencies headquarters are less than 25% occupied. how much does gsa spend annually to operate office space for federal agencies. >> thanks for that question. we have a federal buildings fund that's where agencies that have space in buildings or have leased space, pay rent effectively. and so, that amount every year is around more or less $11 billion. >> 11 billion? >> that's just rental payments. that's different than your question which was about how much we spend. >> to maintain. >> right. so what happens is that federal buildings fund actually is shorted every year. in what we're allowed to spend. so typically, what will happen about half of our portfolio is leased. and half is owned and so for the leased portion, that rent just immediately goes out the door and pays the owner of the building right. and whatever the community the building is in. the other half is meant to go back into maintenance of the building. what's happened over the last 12 years is that portion has been basically siphoned off to p